I sailed commercials ships in the Pacific and still remember large commercial ships sinking. One was last several years ago on it's way to PR. It just hit a bad storm and wham...broke up. A large UK ship sank on it's way to japan about 30 years ago. Both ships were large and still a storm took them out. A old hand told me when I first started sailing "if you get careless out here, danger will find you". I still use that advice in my everyday life.

I've fished commercially since '97. For most of that time I was either Engineer or Mate. Spent a lot of time on boats right similar to the Andrea Gail, including some time on the Hanna Boden when she was in the lobster/Jonah crab fleet. If I were to make a guess as to what did the Andrea Gail in, I'd be likely so suspect her fuel, not the barrels, but her tanks, specifically her fuel vents which were on deck. Typical fuel vents on boats like that have a u shaped pipe coming up from the deck usually right up under the gunwales as far outboard as practical. On the open end of the pipe there is a bell fitting which functions as a check valve, a form of float valve really, that if the fitting gets submerged the ball floats up in the housing and mates with a ring in the top of the bell, which seals most to all of the seawater from getting in and contaminating the fuel. Now I'm not sure which tanks they were drawing from at the time (no-one is) but I would bet significant money it would have been her saddle tanks as they were fairly close to her LCG and LCB while in a loaded state, with her lazarette tanks likely having been used earlier in the trip and topped off with the fuel from the barrels to avoid getting her too far out of trim at any time. Now back to those vents, a goodly few of the boats I've been on have had issues with their vents, fills or some times both; they are all just pipes welded to the deck which also forms the top of the fuel tank, and it is precisely that weld which caused four out of the seven fuel contamination issues I've had to deal with. There is often dissimilar metals between the pipe and the deck and whatever rod was used to weld it in place, its a hotspot for corrosive problems, and is pretty good for letting seawater into the fuel, and diesels do not like trying to burn seawater. Now if the aluminum ball in the bell housing for the tank vent is also shot; and I've only ever encountered a few what weren't you can get a surprising amount of seawater into your tanks. Ideally you would re-weld the fill pipe and slop some paint on it, and you also typically know what tank is know for leaking the worst and which one leaks the least, when you are expecting foul weather the in the next day or so, you align the fuel system so that the main is drawing from the best tank and you also probably go and change the filters on the racors and while you're down there also drain the bowls all around for the racors on the main and any generators you have aboard to make sure that there is as little chance of water getting to the engines and stalling them out as possible. Now for my theory, there is lots of stuff that is lashed all over the deck of a working boat like that and some of it is quite heavy. It wouldn't take much of a knock to snap off a vent or a fill that was already not in the best of shape, and with no record of her vents being repaired for her midships tanks in the previous 5 or so years there is very little reason to assume they were in good shape and a fair bit to recommend that they were in fact at least partially corroded at or around their junction with the deck plates. It is also very likely that something lashed to the deck or gunwales would come totally or partially adrift in the weather they were steaming through. Letting fairly small but continuous amounts of water into the tank, until it got to the point that the fuel/water separators and racor bowls could no longer keep the fuel to the engine clean enough for it to continue running. This would naturally cause it to stall out and necessitate the realignment of the fuel system to draw on a different tank and to have the fuel lines downstream of the racors or at the very very barest minimum downstream of the engine mounted fuel pump to need to be purged. Not an evolution they would have had time for. Now the best they could hope for is to have enough steerage way left to lay the boat onto the port tack and have heave to after a fashion, with the raised "wave wall" what you call her raised bulkhead on the port side offering some shelter to the deck. It's her most stable option at that point however it does mean that she will have been drifting beam to the seas, which you don't have to be to nautically inclined to figure is probably not ideal, but without power it would be the best option. Unfortunately before there was any chance of regaining powered, it is entirely probable that she took a coamer that knocked her down and she down flooded from there, likely going down in less than 3 minutes from that point. Main points of water ingress likely being through the fish hold hatch and through the wheel house door, as I am fairly certain at that point in time she was fitted with a partition door there instead of a true water tight door. But that's just my take on it. Two boats I've been on that had particularly bad fuel problems were the old Genesis and the old William Bowe. Genesis had the issue that her tanks were just flat out dirty as the day is long from years of bad ownership. you had to change the racors on an almost daily basis in good weather to keep the engine and generator going. On the Bowe it was a pure crap show, there was not only dirt and gunk in the tanks but algae and seawater a well, with known deck leaks on all 4 of her fuel tanks that would let water in. The Bowe also had a lot of other problems as well, not the least of which was centered around her generators. The #1 produced somewhat questionable voltage and the frequency was a bit wonky varying between 58 and 62 hz for not particular reason, which on its own not great, but the kicker was that the #2 gen would randomly kick off line. There being no mechanical backup for the steering pumps, and they not starting back up on their own after a loss of electrical power meant that they would have to be manually reset. I'd like to say that such issues are unique to those vessels but that would be a lie. As the fleet ages such problems only become more and more common, don't forget that most of the US boats that were around when the Andrea Gail was built are still fishing. It's a problem that needs to be addressed however I'll not be the one holding my breath for it to happen.

@jochenheiden

3 ай бұрын

holy crap dude TLDR!

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

Amazing detail👍🏻

@drishy94303

3 ай бұрын

@@jochenheiden I read the whole thing easily

@thindigital

3 ай бұрын

​@@jochenheidenreading is good for you mate!

@jochenheiden

3 ай бұрын

@@thindigital meh. Overrated.

The side about the former cook’s reasons for leaving was fascinating. Great story-telling instincts to have included that!

Major respect to the folk who work on ships like this one. Such hard, dangerous work - they definitely earn what they make

Dang man you’ve added so much back story to Billy Tyne that we never got from “The Perfect Storm”

@engste678

3 ай бұрын

If you want detail, read the book! Sebastian Junger. You'll be glad you did, it's fascinating 👍

@derektaylor2941

3 ай бұрын

@@engste678yes and if you want FACTS (or the admission that there are few facts) then read the official reports. Certainly don't rely on this highly speculative YT video.

@eljanrimsa5843

3 ай бұрын

There is an equally fascinating book "Hungry Ocean" from Linda Greenlaw, the captain of Andrea Gail's sister ship Hannah Boden at the time of the storm

@yepiratesworkshop7997

3 ай бұрын

True. The book was way much better than the movie. To be honest, I got way, way annoyed at the whiny actress's portrayal of Cap. Linda Greenlaw.@@engste678

@kakashisensei38

17 күн бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. Makes me want to watch that movie again. Loved it even if it’s sad.

The book about this event was very well written. It was more about an authors experience going to a small fishing town and trying to win over locals to open up to him and let him into their world. He also made half the the book about the coast gaurd aspect of this storm. There was a helicopter which was also lost. It was a really really good read and not too long of a book.

fun fact: I lived in Gloucester during 99-00. When they were filming The perfect Storm. The Crow's nest pictured at 9:43 is not the real bar. That was a set built for the movie; at the end of the pier.

@fastst1

2 ай бұрын

Ssssh, don't give away the secret location

@thegteam4349

2 ай бұрын

I got absolutely shitfaced there one night back in '96, good times.

The Flemish Cap? Went there once... in '62. Lots of fish...and lots of weather...

@davidtacy2293

3 ай бұрын

Classic

@RobertCunningham-cw4bv

3 ай бұрын

Lol

@edbrown6985

3 ай бұрын

I saw him say it to

@DioBrando-jm7uf

3 ай бұрын

Good to know

@jakobquick6875

3 ай бұрын

“Your full of shit” “True, I am”😂❤ Great story of full of shit fisherman…seen so many😅

You did an EXCELLENT job describing this story Paul. Love hearing you tell these exciting/terrible ocean incidents step-by-step.

@waterlinestories

29 күн бұрын

Thanks 👍🏻

Another theory,based on a similar long liners sinking,is that the Andrea Gail stuffed her bow several times with such force that the hull compressed and her sides split.Kinda like stepping on a beer can that’s standing up .As the beer can compresses the sides split open.She was a steel hull and all that energy pushing on the bow has no place to go and she can’t displace all that energy by flexing.That energy has to go somewhere so it may have forced its way out the sides by splitting the sides of the hull.Ive been fishing commercially for Tuna for 38 seasons and have been caught it some extremely nautical conditions,where I could feel the entire boat flexing and torquing under the strain and they were fiberglass hulls that flexed.

@ChrisC-yc6bd

22 күн бұрын

You explained that very well, thanks!

@theloosemoose8200

15 күн бұрын

Nonsense

@christianfournier6862

11 сағат бұрын

@@scary_scat3924 The hulls have frames for that precise reason ; the beer cans haven't.

@scary_scat3924

2 сағат бұрын

@@christianfournier6862 i was using a beer can to simply illustrate a point,a beer can obviously doesn’t have bulkheads,decking,framing or stringers

@scary_scat3924

2 сағат бұрын

@@christianfournier6862 plus my entire statement was based off a documented theory

Definitely my favourite maritime channel. I bet that guy that looked into the swordfish's eye, and gave the game away will remember that sword fish for the rest of his life.

Kosko's remarks about the dying swordfish kinda got to me, I won't lie.

@future_me_6067

3 ай бұрын

The dude had a sixth sense.

@seanworkman431

15 сағат бұрын

Recreation fishing when sailing, (the white flag brigade) we have a spray bottle with vodka in it. Good doss of that on the gills and they say thankyou.

God bless all the fishermen who risk their lives on the sea. RIP to the crew of the Andrea Gail & all others who have lost their lives at sea. Fair winds & following seas shipmates. 🙏♥️🙏♥️🙏♥️ 🫡 🇺🇸

Took my Motorcycle to Nova Scotia on the Scotia Prince, a 470-foot-long ferry that would take passengers, vehicles and cargo from Portland Maine to Yarmouth Nova Scotia. Kind of like a mini cruise ship with food, gambling and cabins. Made the trip around 5 or 6 times in my life but during one of the first few we went through a pretty bad Nor'easter . Every so often you could hear the explosion of the Bow crashing into a huge wave and then view out the cabin window would be obscured by water and then clear. Scared the hell out of me. Can't imagine being in something like that storm in a little vessel like the Andrea Gale. RIP Boys

Compassion and empathy saved one crewman. kudos.

@yakhooves

3 ай бұрын

I feel like I'd be that guy. I can't stomach the idea of the hunting/ fishing trades for myself personally. But then again, I don't like killing spiders so long as their outside and not crawling on me... so killing a swordfish on an industrial level would be too much for me. I probably am lucky I live in this time period...

@perfectscotty

3 ай бұрын

Felt bad for that old swordfish.

@PlateletRichGel

3 ай бұрын

Oh magic rainbow swordfish, pass your double rainbow energy into my so's I can hit some blackjacks tonight at the casino.

@williambeatty5779

Ай бұрын

I agree completely.

i spent that storm deckhanding a 40 ft launch boat in NY harbor. even as protected as the harbor was, it was HORRIBLE. 15 ft chop on the leeward side of tankers, 50 plus mph steady wind, gusts that wanted to blow you right off the deck. 12 hours of that had me beaten down. the idea of facing that unprotected in the open ocean of the north atlantic in a 66 ft boat is the stuff of nightmares

This is a story that will stay close to me for the rest of my life.

"Dont steam through a hurricane, you wont get paid if you are dead" Me.

@deadmeat8754

3 ай бұрын

History is full of moronically arrogant captains that have ignored reality and ended their ships and crews.

@glasmannschaefer

3 ай бұрын

"And if you have to, do it in a submarine" - Not me, but I was standing close by, when that other guy said it.

@Noikar

3 ай бұрын

Very pithy.

@SchmozzleGTO

3 ай бұрын

They didnt steam into a hurricane- did you watch the video? They steamed into a storm fuelled by a low that turned into a '100 year storm'... Try harder before taking the p1ss my bru, have some respect.

@FalloutStrong

3 ай бұрын

@@SchmozzleGTO An overloaded fishing vessel shouldnt steam into either, what are you talking about exactly? Sounds like you have some personal issues to work out and you are just here venting. Why dont YOU show some respect and go rake your zen garden instead of snapping at people for no good reason?

This story could make a great movie!

@CEngineering-pv8uw

3 ай бұрын

George Clooney would make a great captain!

@ianisaacs2340

3 ай бұрын

@@CEngineering-pv8uwjust imagine if Mark Walberg also starred in it! I would watch it.

@jackallen9780

3 ай бұрын

It is a movie called the “perfect storm”.

@keananpaul8494

3 ай бұрын

​@@jackallen9780 they are being sarcastic bro

@kojack57

3 ай бұрын

@@jackallen9780That's such a perfect name for such a movie. Man those Hollywood people...that's why the get the big bucks.

Fellow fisherman. My fathers boat, the Carla Ann (family boat) nearly sank for the same reason. Fuel Drums loaded on board. Full of fuel for an extended trip. The extra weight proved seriously dangerous. My father said he would never do it again.

I was on a 210 ft supply boat coming back from iceland when that storm came together. It was the worst storm I have ever been in. We had 42 containers on our back deck and it was the scarriest 24 hours of my life working offshore. We heard maydays from several vessels but in 80-90 ft seas there was nothing we could do even if we were closer to them.

@Aetius_of_Astora

Ай бұрын

Must be a truly haunting experience hearing multiple mayday calls like that, especially without any meaningful way to respond and the possibility of joining them.

@user-xf6tw7xh1x

Ай бұрын

The scariest part was when the sun went down the waves seemed to get bigger with each passing hour. We wore our survival suits 24 hours until the storm was over.

@Luckyme2-.

Ай бұрын

You're a lot braver than me. I could never work on the sea.

@Kroggnagch

12 күн бұрын

Can't blame you or your captain or crew for that one. There's only so much you can do when it comes to combating nature, and "combating" may be the wrong word. You don't combat Mother Nature so much as you simply work with her when it's to your advantage, and stay out of her way when it is not. No sense in putting your ship and crew in dire situations when that's all it is youd be doing. I totally understand not being able to help. That mustve been so difficult. Not only worrying about your own safety but hearing your fellow humans cry out over the radio, entirely unable to provide the help they so desperately needed, knowing you yourselves were in great peril as things were. Gosh. I cant imagine the horrors you must've felt.

@extractedentertainment8213

6 күн бұрын

That’s just insane. The worst seas I was ever in was 50-60ft seas off of Cape Hatteras in the fall of ‘02 on the return of my first deployment with the USCG aboard the USCGC Tahoma, a 270’ cutter. It was absolutely terrifying.

I saw the movie in the theater when it came out and I wasn't expecting much but I was very pleasantly surprised and really enjoyed the movie, the story and the acting. I actually shed a few tears towards the end and that's not something I do often without good reason.

@frankmiller95

Ай бұрын

Having seen more than l care to of bad weather at sea, especially on big sailboats, which are generally better able to handle extreme conditions than western rigged long liners, like the "Andrea Gale," the end of this film reawakened PTSD from earlier experiences. No thanks.

@crystalm4324

20 күн бұрын

It was an epic blend of real and special effects that’s for sure. Still an excellent film to watch to this day. Cry every time.

@choppermech9752

7 күн бұрын

The book was so much better.

Many members of my grandfathers family are listed on that memorial. Fishing was and still can be so dangerous. It’s a hard life for sure.

Usually it’s hubris, poor planning, or lack of regard for safety that causes these kinds of accidents. This is just plain awful luck. RIP.

@OCinneide

23 күн бұрын

This couldn't have been mitigated, the boat was going to sinking, but the emergency equipment not being used raises questions.

@x--.

4 күн бұрын

A bit of hubris and poor planning. Running with the EPIRB off demonstrates both.

This is gonna be hard on my little boy! John C Reilly The Perfect Storm

@TheLauratkd

Ай бұрын

💔😭

@frankmiller95

Ай бұрын

Wasn't he reincarnated as a Nascar driver?

I was to report for duty (helicopter maintenance school) at Ft. Eustice, Virginia on Oct 30, '91. I drove from Vestavia Hills, Alabama on the 29th. When I reached South Carolina, the rain started. The rain was very heavy through North Carolina, there was no moon. There were several wrecks on the interstate and the traffic was very congested at times. It was one of the most nerve-wracking trips I have ever made. I think it was almost a15 hour-long drive, and it was normally about 10-12-hour drive. I didn't know about the deadly nature of the storm until I read the book, The Perfect Storm by Sebastian Junger.

I'm on the West Coast. Fuel tanks above the waterline are shunned; and I've never seen fuel drums loaded on the bow. It sounds like they needed a bigger boat to long line that area.

@wallacejeffery5786

3 ай бұрын

I have loaded fuel on board a 31 Bertram, but transferred it quickly to main fuel tanks

@jamesbohlman4297

3 ай бұрын

@@wallacejeffery5786 if your running inside waters you can get away with a lot. These guys were equivalently out past Kodiak, well outside their boats operating envelope. As for icing the load, it seems to me that they were cutting the delivery date close.

I lived right in the ocean in 1991 with my gf, when you opened the sliding glass door to the deck, the deck butted right up against the seawall, when the waves started crashing up on the deck it was beautiful, high tide was still hours away, then the waves started crashing up over the roof, dark green ocean water running down the windows, it was awesome, my gf kept saying we gotta go but I loved it, then a wave brought a boulder and smashed through the sliding glass door, by the time we left both sides street were flooded, i backed the car across the street, we had front row seats to waves ripping the house apart, washing it out to sea, in the morning the only thing left was the foundation and us in the car. 1991 Marshfield, Mass. The perfect storm.

@nunyabizness9216

3 ай бұрын

Let me guess, our tax dollars built you a new home? Our gubmint is such a wreck. It would be nice if homes were restricted to about a quarter mile inland so us people in the rest of the country dont have to keep building new homes every few years. Idiocy.

@stejer211

3 ай бұрын

@@nunyabizness9216 Maybe they were insured?

@ripwednesdayadams

3 ай бұрын

@@nunyabizness9216I don’t know wtf you’re on about. Insurance would cover rebuilding costs of a home, not tax dollars. Always some dumbass on youtube talking out of their ass. 😂

@Metalholic7of8

3 ай бұрын

And the thought never crossed your mind the whole time you were watching the pretty waves destroy everything you have to maybe get some of it and put it in the car. Oh wait, you’re living on seafront and have a fat bank account. You do not need to worry about it.

@cwired9407

3 ай бұрын

Just in case you were wondering, people are still cranky on the internets. Thanks for sharing your story!

I remember that storm. There were 30' to 35 ' breakers throwing boulders the size of small cars over the sea wall. Boats were blown hundreds of yards in land. The lobster traps were all over the beaches and the fishing fleets took a pounding.

I grew up in New Jersey, right on the water. I remember that storm, and, how bad the flooding from the surge was. Half my town was uner 4 feet of water.

@jrthetravelingsalesman6357

3 ай бұрын

What part of NJ? I’m from SJ myself.

@buzz5969

3 ай бұрын

Im tjinking Thats a good thing for New Jersey.

@kennethkobylakiewicz3157

3 ай бұрын

Point Plessant Beach,N.J. here.We had epic flooding from this system.

@TheRealBelisariusCawl

3 ай бұрын

@@kennethkobylakiewicz3157He said SJ not east Philadelphia 😂😂. Cape May now in the chat 👍

@yepiratesworkshop7997

3 ай бұрын

Across the Bay from you. Lewes. Lived there (a kid) during the '62 Storm. "The Great Storm" really was a great storm. I was 7 years old and lived on 2nd Street and the water level came up to our backyard.@@TheRealBelisariusCawl

I believe that swordfish did indeed communicate with him and love little gems of the supernatural in real life. Divine intervention.

The perfect storm I love that movie

this is one of my absolute favorite movies. perfect cast, perfect soundtrack, the perfect storm. And for a year 2000 movie it has friggin great cgi. This is my Titanic. Not gonna lie, when the Andrea Gail sinks at the end and Marky Mark is there alone in the ocean, in the storm, i always tear up a bit lol

I still remember watching it on the news when the Andrea Gail went missing, the fleet pulled together looked for survivors for a couple of weeks, even the Coast Guard looked for well over a week until they found items from her. It was also the quietest movie theater I ever sat in when the movie cam out.

This is an interesting idea, the fuel and water leading to the loss, but the ship was sunk after an extended voyage, where a lot of that extra fuel and water would have been used. The crew knew they were sailing into bad weather and probably would have transferred fuel to the main tanks to lower the center of gravity and reduce free surface effect from partially filled tanks. They might have even dumped the extra fresh water to increase freeboard and increase stability. This was a crew of experienced sailors.

@pc_buildyb0i935

2 ай бұрын

The only fuel drums recovered were empty, as per the Coast Guard report. It seems the crew did exactly this.

@frankmiller95

Ай бұрын

The fuel in those drums was likely long gone by the time of the storm. What sank boat was not free surface, but as the USCG so elegantly describes it, "free communication" better characterized as more water entering the hull than the bilge pumps, aka "dewatering devices" can handle. That the free communication was likely the result of a loss of stability is immaterial. The end result was loss of sufficient buoyancy to stay afloat, better known as sinking.

@pc_buildyb0i935

Ай бұрын

@@frankmiller95 How would water enter a watertight hull on a boat going into the weather? A 75-foot swordboat would easily weather 30-foot seas (the AG was slammed during fishing on the Banks by a 30-footer that broadsided her and put her on her side and yet with only 20,000lbs of fish in the hold she recovered with no damage). Barring some catastrophic engine failure (unlikely) she was almost certainly pitch-poled like we see in the film.

@frankmiller95

Ай бұрын

@@pc_buildyb0i935 "Watertight" is a relative term. Any vessel without positive stability will only retain its watertight integrity for a very short time, as in seconds, minutes at most, after it has capsized. On the other hand, a "modern" monohull sailboat will generally recover to an upright condition after a knockdown, or even a 360. lf its hull retains sufficient watertight integrity for bilge pumps and other dewatering devices to stay ahead of the inevitable leaks, it will stay will afloat. Since a vessel without positive stability will not recover after exceeding its GM, it will sink, sooner rather than later.

@georgewashington7444

14 күн бұрын

A UK sailor Roger Taylor sailed his 21-23’ sailboats refitted like tanks and truly unsinkable 2008-2016 on several voyages in the North Atlantic/Iceland/Greenland/Labrador sea encountering up to 15M seas . He carried only a handheld VHF /GPS and NO engine .and NO EPIRB. He wrote 3 books documenting these voyages look up MingMing fascinating reading! A unassuming humble guy that is a nautical God. I write this to emphasize small sailboats with skilled crew can and have survived very large storms.

Thank you for the info. You are always so respectful of the lives lost, I truly appreciate that

Another excellent story well documented and clearly told. Congratulations!

@waterlinestories

2 ай бұрын

👍🏻

"The sea's getting colder." That is one hell of an understatement. It will drop to just a few degrees over freezing (from somewhere in the 60s F during summer). In the area off Cape Cod at least. (which isn't too far from the area discussed here) My father lives on Cape Cod year round. One year I went and jumped into Nantucket sound in Jan. or Feb. Lets just say I'll never do that again. Holy hell that was cold. I have never felt anything like that before in my life.

It’s always “the last trip” that gets ya.

We had seawater get into one of our tanks not far from off Hinchinbrook in Queensland that left both main engines and the generator dead. It was coming on dark with heavy seas so we had to switch tanks then drain all the fuel lines, filters and assorted fittings, all the while testing the diesel and dropping heaps into the bilges. Being side on to the swell had everybody getting seasick, this being aided by the 46 degree engine room temperature and the diesel in the bilges. Anyway whilst sweating and spewing profusely we managed to bleed one main engine to not only turn us into the swell but prevent us from dropping an anchor in an effort to not go into the cliffs that we were steadily approaching. We kept at it down below and bled the port engine then the generators. It was the harshest conditions I’ve ever worked in by far and as we had our children on this trip there was always that background pressure spurring us on to get the job done.

I've been waiting forever for someone to do a good telling of this particular story. And it's YOU of all people, love it! Finally man, thank you! Love your videos brother.

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

🤣 thanks

@ryanramel604

3 ай бұрын

That’s almost a wonderful compliment!

@tompugh388

3 ай бұрын

There was an incredible documentary about this I saw in the mid 90s. Really chilling. It had interviews with a woman on another boat who was there t monitor what the Japanese were catching. I can recall her saying the last communication she had with the Andre Gail was the captain saying I've rhe radio ' she's coming on, and she's coming on strong" about the storm. Iirc it was a weather presenter who first called it the perfect storm.

I thought I knew everything there was to know about the sinking of the Andrea Gail but you have some excellent nuggets included that I was unaware of. Thanks

I’m good friends with Linda Greenlaw. She is an amazing woman.

@angelwalker979

22 күн бұрын

Well I'm friends with Madonna so I win.

@jcfc8197

22 күн бұрын

@@angelwalker979 you can have Madonna, she is too trashy for me.

You have real talent for explaining things to where a person like me. Who has never been on a ship can understand! Great job

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

👍🏻

Thank you for another very well-done documentary. You're the best!

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, I really appreciate that

You'll notice in the photos that the Andrea Gale had a stern ramp. Having one indicates she was originally built with the capability of being rigged as a stern trawler. Thus rigged she would have had net reels, nets, gallows frames, winches and more lifting righing aloft. All of this equipment would weigh significantly more than longline gear for swordfish and would have been accounted for by her designer. The barrel theory is doubtful as that wayer and fuel would hae been consumed by the time of the storm. I worked on trawlers in the North Atlantic and Bering Sea for forty five years with 30 as captain and while i can imagine how the Andrea Gale sank the fact is no one knows.

@pc_buildyb0i935

2 ай бұрын

The Andrea Gail did not have a stern ramp. The FV Lady Grace, which was used to portray the AG in the movie, does. The AG, originally "Miss Penny" was designed and purpose-built as a longliner. She most likely was pitch-poled by the 100-foot seas in the area, if she didn't sink earlier in the storm.

Always exciting to see a new Waterline Stories post... Keep up the great work, love all of it. May all involved in these stories rest in peace.

Your presentation and story telling here is fantastic. Ignore the idiots in the comments who think they know better but clearly have done no research or have any knowledge on what they speak. Excellent work as usual.

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

🤣 thanks. I think I just rile people up with the title.

@guachingman

3 ай бұрын

I wonder if it really makes a difference if you just made a non bait more sober title like the sinking of xyz, some of the clickbait titles dont even have the name of the ship and I also wonder whether they are actually detrimental for example for non subscriber specifically searching for an incident by name... @@waterlinestories

I love your channel and stories! (I have a very soft spot for ships of all kinds.)Thank you for presenting this to us.

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

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Another great presentation. Thanks!

I read the book before watching the movie. It’s a good description of typical life on the boat, the height of a wave required to topple a ship, what likely happened, what the swordfish looks like (even as a pup), the danger of the fish to the crew once caught, etc. Having read the book first enhanced the depth of understanding.

If they were at the end of the trip you generally always burn your tanks down and then would transfer all the fuel from the drums down into the hull as soon as you can. No captain with any experience would leave all that weight on the bow longer than they had to, especially knowing there is weather coming

@pc_buildyb0i935

2 ай бұрын

Most of the Andrea Gail's plastic drums that were recovered were empty, so this tracks. Tyne was an experienced mariner and would know better than to leave any weight high up.

@j.griffin

Ай бұрын

It was a clickbait title- he said at the end that nobody knows, so why use a title like that? I agree with you,though- whatever vehicle it is, extra fuel (or water) should always be properly stowed/stored as soon as there’s room.

i was on the water that night passing threw the area were the Andera was .that night the storm came threw and just grew and grew ,the captain never turn in ,and i the second engineer made none stop rounds , the captain and i talked some ,he told me then that he knew some boats were in trouble , our ship was 297 feet with 3000 horse power and plow threw the sea ,the waves where 50 to 70 feet and even bigger ones .

@nunyabizness9216

3 ай бұрын

I'll just stick to inland lakes and my rowboat. Fresh fish for the family is good enough for me.

@frankmiller95

Ай бұрын

*through. Threw is the past tense of "throw."

excellent coverage, thank you!

My sub was stuck on the surface waiting for permission to go to Nova Scotia and a Nor Easter popped up out of nowhere. I was stationed as Look Out and the waves were pounding me and the Officer of the Deck. We got beat up for 3 hours before the XO called it and brought us down. I had never seen waves so big as in the North Atlantic. They would tower over us and each time a big wave hit it would go completely black. I had bruises on my entire back like someone kept hitting me with a sledge hammer.

@DBBMed

3 ай бұрын

Wouldnt it be safer if the sub had dived down and waited?

@Ron-zu3iv

3 ай бұрын

WTF....

@TakeFlightMusic

3 ай бұрын

@@DBBMedI could be wrong, but I believe they could only communicate when up on the surface. Once they dive, communications are limited/terminated.

@likilikiki

3 ай бұрын

You've never been hit with a sledge hammer...

@VincentNajger1

3 ай бұрын

I've heard that the waves in the roaring 40s circling Antarctica are ridiculous and relentless all year round, thanks to the Coriolis Effect and not having any landmass to slow it down. 10m waves are regular for that latitude apparently.

More likely. The violent rocking of the boat caused the fuel to splash around in the fuel tanks. The engines sucked some air and stalled. With no propulsion, they ended up sideways and got hit broadside from a large wave and capsized

@jaysonlima7196

3 ай бұрын

I'd more suspect that seawater contamination would be more likely since the fuel pickups are at the bottom of the tank, but either way the results would be the same. Engine dies, boat goes broadside, gets knocked down and down floods, sinks right quickly especially if the fish hold hatch lets go...

@naughtiusmaximus830

3 ай бұрын

It could also be shaking up sludge from the tank bottom too.

@walterdavis4808

3 ай бұрын

@naughtiusmaximus830 maybe. But dead engines is a surefire way to get in trouble in a storm

Another great video from my favorite site. Glad you back to normal 😉😉😉

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Beverly. Hope all is well

@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205

3 ай бұрын

@@waterlinestories I'm well, hope you are too?! I've been listening to your older vidoes with my eyes closed drinking in your awesome accent. Thank you 😉😉

@2esquared

3 ай бұрын

​@@waterlinestories Have you been sick, wat is fout boeta?

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

@2esquared No. Just took a break over Xmas and then it took a while to get up to speed

@beverlyreiner-baillargeon6205

3 ай бұрын

@@waterlinestories Well, hope you had a great holiday, your all rested up and will be bringing some great video's in the near furture. 😉😉😉

My absolute favourite channel ANYWHERE! Love your work!👏👏👏

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, I really appreciate that

@Lakridza67

3 ай бұрын

@@waterlinestories you are most welcome. I really appreciate the high quality of the research and the skill of how it is presented. I also think it is marvellous how you present all the measurement conversions from miles to kilometres and so on. It means that for some of us, we don’t have to multitask and try to make the calculations on our own! I always get excited about new episodes and I always really enjoy the high quality presentation. Keep up the excellent work, 👏🏻 🥇☝🏻

Nice touch with the animations man 👏🏻

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

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That story about the fish looking up at Koskogot to me. I don’t like killing anything. I rescue spiders out of my house. It’s probably a girl thing lol

@chrisguzzy3732

25 күн бұрын

No, it's not a girl thing. I've been a fireman for a long time at 1st it dosnt get to you, but over time, too much death near you gets to you. It would be nice to never see pain or death again in my life...

I WAS ABOUT 18 OR 19 WORKING OUT OF A SHRIMP BOAT WITH MY HIGH SCHOOL BUDDIE WHEN WE LEFT PORT AT DELCAMBE, LOUISIANA, . WE WORKED ON TWO DIFFERENT BOATS, WITH 2 DIFFERENT CAPTIANS, ONE WAS AN OLD WOODEN HULL JUST LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE FORREST GUMP MOVIE.. ONE OF THE CAPTIANS LOOKED LIKE A PIRATE... ONE OF OUR BOATS STARTED TO SINK, THEN FINALLY THE BILGE PUMP STARTED TO WORK .....JUST IN TIME..... WE MADE IT TO PORT ARTHUR, TEXAS JUST BEFORE SOME 20 FOOT WAVES ALMOST SANK OUR ASS'S,, YOU HAVE NEVER LIVED LIFE ............UNITL YOU ARE ABOUT TO DIE..........I KNOW THE FEAR THAT THESE MEN HAD...I HOPE THAT THEY HAD A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS.BEFORE THEY MEET HIM......RIP............ JIM HAMMERS FT. LAUDERDALE FLORIDA

Very happy to see that you did this because the movie was so vapid. The story about the cook is beautiful and tragically poetic. Is he a writer? Who would hear that powerful small piece but for this video?

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

I don't know if he's a writer. Would make sense.

I have always hoped a good maritime channel would cover the Andrea Gail. I have read about it but not seen anyone cover it yet on yt. Great job as always.

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

👍🏻 Thanks. Great to see you here

The things some people have to perform and endure just so we can buy our groceries conveniently is truly incredible. The next time you buy a slab of swordfish, say a prayer for the men who have perished trying to get that piece of fish to you.

@resmarted

27 күн бұрын

never bought swordfish in my life

@stevemorris6790

14 күн бұрын

Me idem.

Excellent video. Thank you for covering this one 🤘

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

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Wow - another absolutely fascinating WaterlineStories video - it reminds me of when my folks and I went on a Whale-Watching Boat Trip off the coast of Boston,MA (fortunately the seas were still and the weather was perfect) but the North Atlantic can change on a dime. Thank you again for bringing us these world-class productions my friend. Subscribing to your channel is one of the best things I've done this year.

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, that's great to hear

You're doing a really great job! I'm glad that I've come across your channel!

@waterlinestories

Ай бұрын

👍🏻 thanks. Welcome aboard

The A./G. At the time, was considered on the smaller side of boat's fishing sword in the areas they were. However, At those times and on The Grand banks, everything in this video was common practice. Pushing weather, boats & Men to their limits just was an accepted way of life. It was a really nice boat w/great crew on board from everything I have heard. Long lining for sword must have been pretty cool in those days. I remember the day of the storm. Knowing how it was on land I can NOT imagine just how vicious it was off shore. Measured waves in a few places were 90 ft.+

Your best work to date. Well done

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

Thanks 👌

The Crows Nest is still around! Been a fair few times when I used to work in the area

@moceri55

Ай бұрын

It’s one of the last true bar rooms in town. Gloucester used to have a bar on every corner. Now there are less than 5 and that may be exaggerating a bit. I think there are 3 left.

In a room full of blind men who can truely see? They payed the price for a butt load of fish and cash. Because thats what you do. It payes the bills. No fish- No money. Maintnance and weather be damned. Its sad and tragic. My heart to the families and friends of the men and women who fish the big water.

This was very sad. George Clooney died in the incident.

@user-yr6se5xj9i

3 ай бұрын

Ha ha

@barryclay9084

3 ай бұрын

Mark Wahlberg was also lost.

@Aaron_Hanson

3 ай бұрын

Are we just going to ignore that John C Riley survived so that he could spend time with his stepbrother and document their time together? Boats & hoes ⛵️

@kimrasmussen7188

3 ай бұрын

i cried when he yelled " I REGRET NOTHING". it was so stunning and brave. sadly they made it before the disabled dog was invented.

@th.burggraf7814

2 ай бұрын

Good one ! 👌🏻👍🏻 lol. 😂

I absolutely love this channel!

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

Thanks👍🏻

Well done . Thank you doing this , nice to know the reel story , Not Hollywood Stlye. Rest in Peace Longliners.

Interesting content! I've Subscribed. Keep up your waterworld tales. Greetings from the French Alps.

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

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Glouster their always from Glouster

The perfect storm staring George Clooney. Great movie, sad event.

Great, thanks for this. Nice to hear some facts

Who eats swordfish?45 yes old and I've never eaten or saw swordfish on a menu.

@Ron-zu3iv

3 ай бұрын

It's good, might want to try it

@briantomcollins

3 ай бұрын

Don't know where you live, but here in New England, you can find it at most decent seafood restaurants. Location, location...

@sdvten

Ай бұрын

You need to get out more. I've eaten it, bought it in the store and seen it on the menu in restaurants. I used to buy my dog a piece of fish every friday, cook it and give it to her. She liked the swordfish.

@floridaman5125

Ай бұрын

Vegas buffets

@megaladonrockband4855

Ай бұрын

It’s delicious

i wish they could find that boat.

@kingohighlight1867

29 күн бұрын

Why. The fish that was on the boat is gone by now😂

@janejones8672

2 күн бұрын

It probably broke apart

Perfect timing!

Great cover!

I was an actor in the movie 8 Seconds the life and death story of Lane Frost a young Champion Rodeo Bull Rider that died in the arena after the bull he just rode turned around and gored him. Luke Perry, Steven Baldwin, Cynthia Gery and many other good actors were in this 1994 hit. The director had made Rocky movies, Karate Kid and many other block busters. I was from Texas and knew of Bull riding and Rodeos so I was hired to be a Rodeo Clown, bar fighter, EMT and just being one of the bull riders too. The way the studio portrayed the family dynamic was terrible. They made his father look like a cold hearted azz that didn't love or care about his son. Which was the complete opposite of the truth. Hollywood got the basics wrong and made the family seem like they didn't love each other when they did completely. Just because they say "based" on a true story. Very little of the story is actually true. This goes for all movies that were based on a real person or event. It's heartbreaking to see how Hollywood can just make things up to make the movie seem more than it really was. Lane had a great story to tell without lying about so many things in his life. Sorry this is so ling. 30 years and several movies later it still stings.

Having a 375 hp engine for a 72 ft 92 ton vessel seems woefully under powered. I can't imagine going so far from shore on one small engine. Trying to face down 35 ft seas with that is suicide.

@Ron-zu3iv

3 ай бұрын

Thinking the same. They were closer to Europe than home with that engine

@Windsor_351

3 ай бұрын

You have to remember that it’s a marine diesel. Horsepower is not its main power measurement, but its torque. It might’ve had upwards of 2000 ft lbs of torque. On top of that, there is really no point in having more power than needed, since it often causes more strain when you try to push a full displacement hull faster and harder than is designed.

@2199SPUDMAN

3 ай бұрын

@@Windsor_351 I'm aware of hull speed limits for displacement hulls, but good point. Still, with all your power curve in torque that doesn't leave you much speed-wise. I looked up that she only had a top speed of 10 knots. You're not outrunning any storms with that.

@andrewwhite1968

3 ай бұрын

Rule of thumb is 2 hp per 1000 lbs. displacement. 365 hp in a 92 ton vessel is about right.

@moceri55

Ай бұрын

It all depends on how her gear box is set up. That is plenty for a fishing boat of this size.

Thanks again friend.

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

👍🏻

Bro been waiting for you to do this!

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

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After more than a month at sea, it would be my guess all those extra barrels/drum of fuel and water(to use and make ice) would have been used up and empty. That was the whole point of having them , not to bring them back to port full of fuel and water . I venture by the time of their return trip they had little fuel* and water left. They had a ship full of fish and a bad storm. I don't think empty drums would have meant anything. * note- low fuel tanks might have been more of issue than full fuel tanks in a storm.. In older boats especially. The fuel has more room to "slosh" around in the tank stirring up all the sediment and crud in the tank and also mixing up any water in the fuel tank, which normally "sits" in a bottom layer. Other ships have had engine failure because of water/sediment contamination caused by rough seas.

@scottreich1207

3 ай бұрын

I agree. I also think the drums would have been cut loose if they were in trouble.

I went on a whale watching tour out of Gloucester. I've never seen so many people get sick all at once.

I was crewing on a yacht delivery from the Canary Islands to the Caribbean when this happened. Hurricane Grace was forming to the North of us and a tropical storm to the South. Luckily we navigated between the two and made landfall safely. Whilst at sea we could hear fishing vessels over the radio to the North who were caught in the tempest. Years later when the book and movie The Perfect Storm were released I found out about what had happened to the Andrea Gail. I still think about those brave men who lost their lives that day and all the countless others who have sacrificed themselves working at sea. I have also crewed on fishing boats and so have an even deeper respect for these guys. RIP all the brave men and women who died so we could have a fish supper.

Thank you for this story. I've always wanted to know the details.

Why can you turn off an eperb? Why would you turn off an Eperb ?

@advorak8529

2 ай бұрын

Maintenance, storage, transport, deactivation?

@JackMehoff-iq5he

2 ай бұрын

Replacement batteries for them are expensive. I’d never turn mine on.

@moceri55

Ай бұрын

Who says it was ever turned on in the first place. There were rumors that the Canadian CG who found it turned it off so they could have plausible deniability because they refused to send any search and rescue vessels during the storm.

@nosmokeey

Ай бұрын

@@advorak8529 seriously, after an eperb has been installed and activated, it should not be possible to TURN OFF, just like a smoke detector😢

Not too sure about this one! Saw the Hannah Boden a few days ago on the Norfolk fishing lobster gear 🤘🏼

@gsd5505

2 ай бұрын

The Hannah Boden was sold and turned into a lobster boat. I know this for a fact because I worked in new Bedford on fishing boats.

@s3a_cr3atur3

2 ай бұрын

That’s what I said. She’s been catching red crabs. Saw her at the dock this AM.

@420blaz3it

2 ай бұрын

Y’all have to know chomps lol

Out catching fish for food, only to become fish food. Nuts

Thanks, man. Fair winds

The Perfect Storm is my favorite movie ever made and the reason i love being on boat's as well as fishing regardless of how bad the weather may become I'll die happy doing what i love any day

At the end of this video you say that’s it’s common for movies to add drama and how the locals said the portrayal was untrue. I type this while looking at your thumbnail 😂 “These drums sank the Andea Gail” 😂

@waterlinestories

3 ай бұрын

🤣 Yes that's a fair assessment.

@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS

3 ай бұрын

@@waterlinestories you’re a stand up guy!!! I just subbed because of your response. 👍👍

@maxrshelltrack7443

Ай бұрын

Too much weight even without the fish assuming.

I don't like that vessel design one bit for a tuna & billfish longliner.

@joeordinary209

3 ай бұрын

Agree, the design does not look that seaworthy, the bridge design also look a bit fragile, they might lost the windows in a rogue wave....

How terrifying. It was probably an immediate capsize

This was a superb and principled video.

@waterlinestories

Ай бұрын

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"These drums sank the Andrea Gail. Ultimately it was the massive storm that caused the ship to be lost..." Make your mind up...

@nunyabizness9216

3 ай бұрын

Gotta have that clickbait title to get that big youtube check. SMH.

@guachingman

3 ай бұрын

there were 1000 clickbaits in that line