As a tree climber, I loved the part about letting it run. Can totally see how the belayer was looking out for the climber around 11:15.

@carazy123_

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and it explained what happened in the one where the guy broke his foot. Too close to the anchor, so he got whipped into the wall.

I’m from Korea and I always share your video with my university alpine club members! Very entertaining and informative! Thank you for awesome contents!

@willscanlon9843

Жыл бұрын

How is the climbing in Korea? It’s mostly sport right?

@khw1350

Жыл бұрын

@@willscanlon9843 Not really! We have a lot of trad&multi pitch outdoors. Outdoor Trad:Sport ratio would be half and half. But most indoor gyms are bouldering gym.

i love these little bits of info on how to be a better all round climber, proper lead belaying is super important and intimidating to learn or even approach someone about

Josh: Where's all the gear? UK climbers: yeah man I mean it's up there u just gotta get there

2:21 looks like wasdale roof on napes needle, there is absolutely gear before the roof, setting out through the roof without placing any of it takes a braver (or dumber?) man than me! 3:00 is flying buttress direct at Stanage You're right, a purple cam can be jammed in literally anywhere on the length of that crack you pointed out and be absolutely bomber, though tbf you are in a fairly strenuous position and the prospect of just doing the mantle and getting to the easy part is quite tantalising.

LOL remember how how up in arms people got about the thought of adding more bolts to Snake Dike after that woman fell and hurt herself? Imagine what they're gonna do with Josh starts building anchors on top of high ball boulder problems.

@ethanplumb1336

Жыл бұрын

I'm into it

@BetaClimbers

Жыл бұрын

They would be naty lol I bleed LNT

@Yildun28

Жыл бұрын

Even the guy who set the route begged people to put up more bolts. Those people can go climb trad somewhere if they want to set no protection.

@AntonAdelson

Жыл бұрын

Tbh I understand the other point of view too. Damaging rock always sucks and if someone wants safety there are a ton of artificial walls everywhere now!

@jimmyoverly3512

Жыл бұрын

​@@AntonAdelsonYeah, this is kind of a holy war. I don't think I'll change anybody's mind but IMO 6 stainless steel bolts isn't damaging the rock. ​

How does thin man not have more subscribers

@areichental

Жыл бұрын

If he did, he wouldn't be the best underground climbing channel.

@bjbboy71697

Жыл бұрын

Because thick man ate them all

@lunchymunchy2984

Жыл бұрын

Did he have a different channel before?

@corvusclimbs2166

Жыл бұрын

*slender man*

@jeffreysandone

Жыл бұрын

He just needs to beef up a bit

12:00 jeez man, that’s awesome belayer. do you realize that belayer’s jedi skiils saved the climber from hitting the ground?!

Man, great video - As a newer climber I feel like there is no limit to the value of fall preparation and all of this is very helpful as I pursue higher levels on lead and as the belayer. Thank you for making such a helpful video!

Nice collection of fails and bails - happy to see you cover some that were making the rounds on Instagram this week. I’m a few weeks away from being a first time trad dad. Just ordered a couple colors of shirt to rep my game. Love it.

@BetaClimbers

Жыл бұрын

CONGRATULATIONS! 🎉 Epic!

12:35 - “If the belayer’s high on something…” *nervous glance at camera* 🤣💪

“If I can see the crack from here, there must be something” this thinking has screwed me over before many times lol

Lmao the lizard clip was the best part

I’ve been hurting for another climbing fail’s video. Thank you 🙏🏽

Tshirt caption: on the front- 'top rope king', on the back- 'see you at the top, not at the bottom', though those could easily be 2 different t shirts. But totally agree. I know loads of trad heads in Ireland who are all about onsights and ground up ascents. I think these people have forgotten that climbing is fun even when you eliminate the chance of dying.

It's great to see fails back again, so we can all learn and be a bit safer. Thanks Joshua for a great channel and discord!

Yes to the future video on soft catching

Can you cover the opening minutes of the movie "Fall" (2022) it's some of THE most hilarious climbing fails? Like it's unbelievable someone can make a climbing scene in a modern movie with so much wrong in it.

3 mintues in and the crag looks like Stanage in the peak district, England!

@owenmorris6962

Жыл бұрын

The route is “flying buttress direct” if I’m not very much mistaken.

@seandelaney7780

Жыл бұрын

@@owenmorris6962 nice! I just came back from a weekend bouldering in Burbage North 🙏🏻

The guy who raps down commando style at ~6:15 is a notorious local at a certain spot in Malibu, CA. I've personally run into him a few times and he's usually either doing the spartan rappel or top rope soloing. He tried to hit on my girlfriend, has a reputation of being a bit of a doucher.

Heard a story from my climbing coach from when he was on his first 14 out in the NRG, almost dropped a clip with a 15+ foot runoff on a tiny crimp when there was a jug right above him. Apparently some other dude had broken his leg dropping the same clip. Reminded me of the first one a lot 😅

6:02 This guy goes by "Old Greg", you can find him at Point Dume in Malibu. Sets up a bunch of ropes on the sea cliffs and spends hours rope soloing and doing these face-first rappel jumps. Seems like he knows what he's doing.

@Nuttyirishman85

Жыл бұрын

Games?

@toniwalsh3978

Жыл бұрын

I’ve climbed near him quite a few times there, he’s tried to take people anchors off while they are top roping, he will solo up a route while you’re climbing it and he has gotten in a few fights. I enjoy his stories and smile but I keep him at arms length.

@davinderc

Жыл бұрын

where's his rappel attached to on his harness? I didn't realize there were harnesses with attach points on the back that could be loaded that way.

@skilllessbeast7416

8 ай бұрын

​@@davindercI mean not oficially per the manual, but it will do for a rappel stunt.

Dude! Thank you for answering my question so thoroughly! That makes perfect sense, that you belayer can let the line run a little bit and I am super aware of how that changes the physics of the impact force. Now excuse me while I go work out an assisted climbing system for sketchy trees.

7:14 when he’s under a roof or the climber has to make a travers at the first draw he should have set up a belay point from the anchor (donno what’s it called in english, but in german that’s what it’s called when your belay device is fixed to your anchor) so that in case of a fall the force is transmitted to the anchor, and not get pulled out the wall or as you said into the roof if the climb goes over it…

When the belayer is high on something.... lolll. Love the video!

Friends, 6:38 I may be wrong but that jellyfish looks like the super poisonous type

Really good video !!! Thanks !

i believe the one at 3.03 is from the peak distirct in the uk. you have one gear in the corner of the crack then nothing til your over that lip...

thoughtful discussion. subscribed

Very British start to this video. Looks like napes needle and then either flying buttress direct or the sloth.

Pretty sure this is the best episode so far! Going to show it to my non climbing friends!

You absolutely can protect that horizontal crack in number 2. Its kind of tough and pumpy to do it in one but place and retreat then go again. Ive whipped on a gold cam on that route. Its called flying buttress @ stanage edge in uk.

Awesome as always. Stay safe out there people

Glad you’re back man! 🏔🤟🏾

Glad to see you're still doing it! Thanks for the video!

I know a guy who was climbing a tree like you were saying, slipped and swung back to the stem and broke his back. Similarly, I had the same thing happen to myself, was way out on a limb and slipped and wrapped my leg around another large limb. Luckily it wasn't broken but was doubled in size for a couple weeks

These were some good ones. That tree catch!! WTF?? The threat is real.

I've been waiting for this climbing fails for a long time

Great clips and I appreciate the commentary, gave me some food for thought on my next climb.

Love your outro ❤

When your climber falls past you yelling "take!" 😂

Hey man, I just found your channel. Great content! Happy to hear you chat about best practices for climbing. Loved the ending

Looked like two from potash road, the ankle break was napping with the alien maybe?

Regarding 7:47: Just belay directly from the master point.

Stoked to see more fails really makes you think. Hilarious how you climb out of frame! It’s the Simple shit man!!

"Surely you could get something in that crack right there" 3:03 Clearly you haven't had the pleasure of climbing on grit? Sometimes there is good cam placement but sometimes there is just nothing. Get yourself on a flight over to UK in early summer and try some peak Grit. Maybe if you ask Tom Randal or Pete Whittaker really nicely they might show you round for a few days as a KZread collaboration - I'd love to watch that! Come on over.. you'll get a warm welcome (Sheffield)

Tree climbing fails would be cool

this was really helpful ! thanks

last clip reminds me of a lot of situations where i see climbers with quite a lot of experience creating bad falling setups for their climbers when belaying in the first 1-3/4 bolts

CLIP NO.3 Flying buttress direct. E1 5b in English money. So about 5.9/10 YDS. (yes the english grades are different from french its weird). But there is room for some gear but it's all flared and likely to pop. Its nicer to get a gear nest where he had gear and just blast through the overhang. Also the clip before looks nasty and I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't any space.

at 11:35 you mention something about dynamic belaying and that there not many devices to do it with, can you make a video about that and explain it please, thanks again for sharing this, i learn a lot with these videos you make. cheers

Hi! And thank you.

That jellyfish in the water though.

@theotaaku

Жыл бұрын

is that a "Portuguese Man o’ War"?!

3:40 good thing the climber was anchored to the ground to avoid flying off into orbit. Seems some people don't get that being tied to the ground below you isn't particularly useful without having something up the rock to attach it to. That's at least two pieces worth of space below the climber, though from the amount of chalk on the rock, and no bolts visible in the radio-quality video, I'd bet there's a nice anchor up top with a walkable trail to set up for top roping. 4:45 yeah, if only someone was above him to set up a top rope rather than just film him coming way too close to a "never gonna climb again" injury.

Unironically thank you for the broken bone warning that shit makes me super queasy

3:40 mark, sure looked like a clip stick lying there..

4:27 is not a fail, anybody trying that hard is winning for sure!

@oliverrevis4190

Жыл бұрын

Australian climbing be scary exposed shit. That probably explains the screaming

@2:58 Flying Buttress - Stanage Edge - Peak District UK

Ayyyyyyy. Comment for the engagement 👍

This is so informative. Love kt

Great video thanks for the content

@BetaClimbers

Жыл бұрын

🤙🏻

As always, a accelent sharing! Pro tip: Turn the playback speet to 0.75 and listen to the 'drunk' Joshua :DD

Dude that broke his foot had those vegan bones

A vid on how to soft catch with a ATC pilot (and other locking devices) would be interesting.

Hi Joshua!

@BetaClimbers

Жыл бұрын

Hi Mitch! 🤙🏻

@mitchellbarnow1709

Жыл бұрын

@@BetaClimbers That was a great structural video. Wear your helmets, people!

number 2 is Napes Needle, lake district UK, hard to protect, the idea is dont fall!!

Thanks for posting love the vids 🫡

Great content!

The third and fourth video, the same thing happened to a guy next to us in Croatia. He didn't wear a helmet. He smashed the back of his head against the rock real bad.

Thanks for the warning - I skipped the really nasty one. I like watching your fail videos to learn what not to do, but I really don't like watching serious injuries.

Tom Cruise "did ti", so I do. Cristal clear, rigth!

Good to see a bit of boldness for a change.

so that guy rappelling face down came off the end of his rope at the bottom right?

6:28 I've actually climbed that wall (really fun) and while i was climbing a met that guy super nice but definetly a couple screws loose.

7:50 thats the exact reason you always belay off the anchor and not off your harness in multipitch. If people afforded to go take courses with trained professionals, they would know that ;)

Did that rappelling guy also not have a stopper in the end? Looks like the rope runs out of his rappel device after he's down

@mattbaker1683

Жыл бұрын

Looks like he has been doing it for some time now and had it all set up for the video. Each to their own I say, but I wouldn't take advice from commando Joe...

Respect

So I enjoy backpacking and everything outdoors.. my girlfriend wants to rock climb with no experience.. she over estimates her abilities on hikes. What is the safest way to get into the hobby?

Saudações! (Brasil) Obrigado por compartilhar!

if you are going to grab a quick draw. grab it by the bone part this way you can let go and not lose a finger. but its better just to fall :D

@BetaClimbers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and some bones are wayyy to skinny some seem to be made for better gripping though.

@Yildun28

Жыл бұрын

I feel like even that is a big risk since as your hand slips down you could get impaled.

Grabbing the dog bone is fine.

I felt the nerves in my body tingle on that 2nd and 3rd video.

Josh, what size is that Trad Dad shirt you're wearing? Is it a Medium or a Large?

3rd one was Flying Buttress Direct at Stanage Edge in the English peak District. It does take gear in that crack but it's been the scene of more than a few broken ankles due to the slab below the overhang.

09:59 Standing closer to the wall as the belayer would have resulted in a softer catch due to reduced rope friction. Disadvantage may be the reduced visual connection to the climber. Some possible trade offs to think about here

I'm 90% sure that second clip is behind my house. I can see idiots up there with headlamps sometimes. I like to get binoculars and make sure the headlamps don't do what that guy did. 😂

At 12:53 Is this the line that Magnus Mitbo free soloed with Alex Honnold for his KZread channel?

Is it a bad idea to grab onto the quick draws dog bone? I can see a potential problem with grabbing the QD beaner but not necessarily the dog bone

@somanayr

Жыл бұрын

Grabbing the dogbone is usually considered acceptable

Broken ankle could have been avoided by a better belay. Taking tight to avoid the ledge, but then stepping into the catch to soften the wall impact. Hard to tell how far off the ground he was, as it seems like he was low, but if he was a few bolts up, just a softer catch that gets him past the ledge would be best.

“If you don’t like the sound of breaking bones”…(me putting the volume up)

Climbing Wins vids? 100%

At 4:00 is the top crash pad a mattress?

At 8'03": ouch. The belayer peeled the climber. The climber said climbing down. Big mistake to the climber.

What is that thing called that actually spread open when guy fell on the first clip! It looks like a shackle spread open from his weight! Are they supposed to do that?

@BetaClimbers

Жыл бұрын

I don’t see what your seeing maybe drop a time stamp 🤙🏻

@MRR-qv3bw

Жыл бұрын

@0:49 when he fell there looks like two clamps. One (top clamp silver) bottom clamp (golden color). That bottom clamp looks like its been pride open or is it an open shackle type thing? Sorry for the confusion!

@BetaClimbers

Жыл бұрын

@@MRR-qv3bw oh okay. Those are called “QuickDraws”. There is a carabiner on top and bottom. It looks like it’s been opened but it just had a “wire gate”. So it’s hard to see what makes it closed and open. Just google wire gate QuickDraw or carabiner to see what I mean. 👍🏻

You’re wearing my shirt.

At nine minutes, the belayer takes ALL the slack out of the rope, even before the fall. It looks like the belayer literally pulled the climber off the wall, and gave the climber the hardest catch possible. I understand there was that ledge there that was a bit of a worry, but I still think they should have tried for a softer catch and it really looks like they pulled the climber off the wall.

Fist guy looks like he’s 20 feet up, might be an optical illusion.

That reverse repel guy is at point dume. That dude is always they're. Always. I'm talking decades. Fights have been started when he nearly knocked climbers off the routes. He's always been cool when I've been there but he's infamous.

@cheesecake6696

Жыл бұрын

He also planned ahead. Those look like tough gloves. I think a lot of the fails hes on about people try to control the rope with their bare hands.

Sometimes obvious cracks from the ground don't take gear. normally they do but not always

@BetaClimbers

Жыл бұрын

Time to slam a Piton in lol Jk the climb is called flying buttresses direct they dropped a link to a video in the discord that guy had a better time protecting it. But yeah your right looks can be deceiving.

I wonder how many of those people started wearing helmets after the fail? (But not really, I know none of them did.)