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  • @McD_James
    @McD_JamesАй бұрын

    Reanimating creatures is my favorite thing to do in Magic, and I'd love to one day see a list of the top 10 worst reanimation spells.

  • @andriybasyuk5674

    @andriybasyuk5674

    Ай бұрын

    This ^

  • @BuddyIsGarbage

    @BuddyIsGarbage

    Ай бұрын

    Leveler, Eater of Days. Basically anything that gets played in Beamtown Bullies EDH deck, while you arent playing Beamtown Bullies as you commander.

  • @pachydude4663

    @pachydude4663

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@BuddyIsGarbage I don't think they said targets, they said spells, as in the thing bringing something else back

  • @peaber69

    @peaber69

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@BuddyIsGarbagenone of those are reanimation spells

  • @jonothanthrace1530

    @jonothanthrace1530

    Ай бұрын

    Animate Dead because the text is too goddamn complicated for what it does.

  • @DeadlyGrim
    @DeadlyGrimАй бұрын

    6:41 Gustha's Scepter actually saw play during the infamous Combo Winter of Magic's history. Tolarian Academy, Yawgmoth's Will, Time Spiral, Mana Vault -- some of the most broken cards in Magic's history, especially when you could have a full playset of 4 of 'em in your deck. And Gustha's Scepter was there. The story goes that during PT Rome 1998, Brian Hacker won a match after only playing Gusatha's Scepter on turn 1. Since this was the days of tournament reports and no recordings, there are conflicting stories about how exactly this happened. The first goes like this: Hacker plays Gusatha's Scepter and says go. At the end of the opponent's turn, Hacker "hides" a Windfall underneath the Scepter. On his turn, he draws Tolarian Academy, plays it and a bunch of the free mana rocks including a Lion's Eye Diamond (which, back in '98, people were still often sleeping on). He cracks the LED, discards his hand, uses the Scepter to get back Windfall, draws a new hand of cards, and then it's off to the races. Use Twiddle or Mind Over Matter to get a ton of mana with Tolarian Academy, use Windfall and Prosperity to fuel card draw, and then cast a game-ending Stroke of Genius targeting the opponent. The second goes like this: Again, Scepter, nothing else, go, but this time what he "hid" was Yawgmoth's Will. On Hacker's turn, he plays 3 Lion's Eye Diamonds, cracks them all to discard his hand (including a Windfall). He gets Yawgmoth's Will back from his scepter, casts it with the mana from the 3 LEDs, re-casts the LEDs from the graveyard, casts the Windfall, and then won from there. Gustha's Scepter certainly wasn't the most powerful card in that deck but it enabled some of those really powerful cards to be even more effective. And then all those broken cards got super banned because they were broken and Scepter basically became a footnote. But it was still good for a (very short) time!

  • @seantracy6452

    @seantracy6452

    Ай бұрын

    This story rules I would have never thought about a use for such a weird card but this is great

  • @Earthboundmike

    @Earthboundmike

    Ай бұрын

    I was looking at that card and wondering how it made it to 3 that card has legitimate uses.

  • @TheRusty

    @TheRusty

    27 күн бұрын

    @@seantracy6452 Well, that's what distinguishes "weird" from "weak." A weak card isn't just underpowered, it also has no ability to do anything other than what it says. "Pay three mana, target creature gets +2/+0" for instance. But cards like the Scepter, while mechanically weak, can also alter board states or enable more powerful cards; like the example of giving you something to hide for use with Lion's Eye Diamond.

  • @evibin3476
    @evibin3476Ай бұрын

    I agree with everything on your list, except for the Kobolds. There was a time in Legacy when they were actually quite powerful. I personally won several DCI sanctioned Legacy tournaments in a storm deck using Glimpse of nature. It was called Cheerios. It could regularly win on turn 1. It had zero land, but at the time it didn't need them. Drop a lotus petal to get the glimpse out and start the chain, then a couple simian spirit guides to pop the grapeshot after you burn through your deck. So sure, they might be powered down know, but there was a time when they did see competitive legacy play and did pretty well.

  • @derrickpaulson3093

    @derrickpaulson3093

    25 күн бұрын

    Another deck that went infinite with kobolds was cocoa and or fruity pebbles.

  • @PKFat
    @PKFatАй бұрын

    I feel like saying Evermind is terrible bc someone _might_ put it in a deck without Arcane spells is the same logic as saying Jewelled Lotus is terrible bc someone _might_ put it in a deck that's not for commander.

  • @ShaqPlaque

    @ShaqPlaque

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, it seems like a quintessential "fine in its limited format" card. If it's going to be on this list, and cards that are decent in limited are excluded, Nizzahon should be making a case for why it's not want you want to do in limited.

  • @SaintAbsol

    @SaintAbsol

    Ай бұрын

    Honestly, even as someone who did try to run an Arcane deck (Commander with Kalamax at the helm) Evermind doesn’t really feel great even when it’s in a deck meant to work with it. Arcane spells are already pretty overcosted for what they’re meant to do, and having to up the cost to what feels like an average of 5-cmc just to get an extra card uses up your mana pretty quickly. Plus, this is best case scenario where you’ve always got an arcane spell to splice it into. If you’re going multiple turns drawing lands or non-arcane spells, it’s literally just sitting in your hand doing nothing.

  • @aliasisudonomo

    @aliasisudonomo

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, same with Gustha's Scepter - it's a Johnny card, it's not *bad*. If you need to stash a card for some kind of combo, or want more 0-cost artifacts for affinity type shenanigans, it has a place.

  • @youtubesucksbutts

    @youtubesucksbutts

    Ай бұрын

    @@ShaqPlaqueI played Kamigawa limited. Evermind was a 15th pick. Playing Evermind meant that you were going to peak at 1-2 if your third round opponent left without withdrawing.

  • @ShaqPlaque

    @ShaqPlaque

    Ай бұрын

    @@SaintAbsol A Commander Arcane deck and a Limited Arcane deck are going to look really different. The limited format it's from is known for being *very* slow, 3/3's for 5 with marginal upside were playable cards. Once every card is depowered, a repeatable two mana effect starts to look more attractive. The downside of course remains that the cards you'll draw aren't great. I'll name a card that was great in limited but stinks in Commander to make my point - Burning Vengeance. In triple Innistrad draft, it's a real deck. In commander, playing (2) to deal 2 with every Flashback spell is peanuts.

  • @tylerowens
    @tylerowensАй бұрын

    Delif's Cone is cute in a ninjutsu deck because you can gain the life then ninjutsu in another creature that will still do combat damage. Still not worth running, but it's a cute little interaction.

  • @gregoryfolsom7882

    @gregoryfolsom7882

    Ай бұрын

    Came into the comments to mention this.

  • @MrZanvine

    @MrZanvine

    Ай бұрын

    If you didn't have to sacrifice Delif's cone, do you think it would be legit worth to run it in a ninjutsu deck?

  • @gregoryfolsom7882

    @gregoryfolsom7882

    Ай бұрын

    @@MrZanvine Possibly, if you can get one or two life gain payoffs as well, otherwise I don't think it's worth playing over other ninjutsu payoffs.

  • @Why-Fi048

    @Why-Fi048

    29 күн бұрын

    would it work on end of combat step to basically give lifeline?

  • @gregoryfolsom7882

    @gregoryfolsom7882

    29 күн бұрын

    @@Why-Fi048 You have to use it before blockers are declared, otherwise it doesn't trigger, making it even less useful for a ninjutsu deck, unless you are running creatures you can make unblockable.

  • @memyself3510
    @memyself3510Ай бұрын

    Kobolds did have a slight time in the sun during the early days of skullclamp, but it was short lived

  • @StefenGrey

    @StefenGrey

    Ай бұрын

    with aragnor the uniter, they're a free 3 damage to opponent! seems like a fun interaction though niche. now if we can just bounce them back to our hand....

  • @faerie7dragon

    @faerie7dragon

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@StefenGrey Cloudstone Curio: This is where I come in 😂

  • @uglyaniimals

    @uglyaniimals

    Ай бұрын

    haven't they also been used in a fringe cheerios legacy deck with glimpse of nature ?

  • @robragequit20

    @robragequit20

    Ай бұрын

    Kobolds don't belong here period

  • @Tragic_Idiot
    @Tragic_IdiotАй бұрын

    I enjoyed this video, but this probably would have been better if the lands had their own video..

  • @catoticneutral

    @catoticneutral

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, I would've rather had a 0 cost video than a 0 cmc video.

  • @joelhaggis5054

    @joelhaggis5054

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @drunkcapybara7004

    @drunkcapybara7004

    Ай бұрын

    My guess is that with only nonlands, there weren't enough that meet his 3 criteria.

  • @SwedeRacerDC

    @SwedeRacerDC

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@drunkcapybara7004 You have a good point. Looking at the last 3 tied for number 10, each one would have needed it's own slot. And even still there would have been more needed

  • @ninkunai8011
    @ninkunai8011Ай бұрын

    a friend in one of my old commander pods had a deck based on Sorrow's Path, where the entire gimmick was giving people Sorrow's Path through stuff like Harmless Offering and then repeatedly tapping it with stuff like Rishadan Port. it was a very silly gimmick.

  • @MortonGoldthwait
    @MortonGoldthwaitАй бұрын

    Getting a free spell like this is like when you go above and beyond and your job gives you a company water bottle or sweatshirt.

  • @christopherb501
    @christopherb501Ай бұрын

    #9 - If regeneration were still around, even money we'd get a "Poultice token" by this point.

  • @3kojimbles895

    @3kojimbles895

    Ай бұрын

    honestly not the worst idea

  • @TheJacklikesvideos

    @TheJacklikesvideos

    Ай бұрын

    @@3kojimbles895 that would be getting rid of regeneration

  • @poiri
    @poiriАй бұрын

    3:25 the only use I’ve seen for Dark Sphere is in mono black Ad Nauseam in EDH with Sickening Dreams as the finisher

  • @cax1175
    @cax1175Ай бұрын

    Cue "There goes my hero" from Foo Fighters, because Nizzahon did it. I suggested this months ago. It was an obvious continuation of his series, but I always love the obscure Worst Top 10s!

  • @Waffletigercat
    @WaffletigercatАй бұрын

    Honestly, if Evermind’s splice was just U instead of 1U, it would probably see play in a few decks.

  • @kieranharwood7186
    @kieranharwood7186Ай бұрын

    At #6: Lands can be on this list Me: "Well, I know number one then! 0 mana to let your opponent's Rishadan port pyroclasm your own board... What could be worse?"

  • @jonothanthrace1530
    @jonothanthrace1530Ай бұрын

    Dark Sphere's art almost looks like it was meant to get people to mistake it for Winter Orb for half a second.

  • @davidhowell1415
    @davidhowell1415Ай бұрын

    i run a kobolds storm deck with bolas citadel its full of 0 drops and ramp. it takes people by surprise pay 0 to keep the storm count going. its not as bad as you say but i havent done any gp or anything like that

  • @OrbGoblin
    @OrbGoblinАй бұрын

    Oof, that Evermind art is another example of great art on a bad card.

  • @valutaatoaofunknownelement197

    @valutaatoaofunknownelement197

    Ай бұрын

    Looks at card: (N)Evermind... I'll skip on it.

  • @uglyaniimals

    @uglyaniimals

    Ай бұрын

    had that thought too

  • @tomfrost6049
    @tomfrost6049Ай бұрын

    These bad cards list always make me miss the old days of magic... magic was so much more fun even just 9 years ago. But it was so wonderfully weird back in the 90s/early 00s. Strange cards with strange effects and everything was so clunky.

  • @antimattered3921
    @antimattered3921Ай бұрын

    i don't really know if evermind should count

  • @crawdaddy2004
    @crawdaddy2004Ай бұрын

    Dark Sphere has a very niche use in Commander: Ad Nauseam-Sickening Dreams. The deck has, like, 90 lands. The other cards are Dark Sphere and a few tutors to find Ad Nauseam. If you have 80 cards in your hand and one of them is a Dark Sphere, you can prevent half of the damage you deal to yourself. 😂

  • @andrewmoy548

    @andrewmoy548

    Ай бұрын

    I don't think it works like that. Ad Nauseam does life loss not damage and won't be reduced by Dark Sphere.

  • @crawdaddy2004

    @crawdaddy2004

    Ай бұрын

    @@andrewmoy548 it prevents the damage from Sickening Dreams. Your entire deck has a total of, like, 10 mana value. Then you play Sphere to prevent half the damage from Dreams.

  • @PaulGaither
    @PaulGaitherАй бұрын

    Kobolds were actually used in a Vintage Glimpse of Nature deck back in 2007/2008.

  • @Kasigi03
    @Kasigi03Ай бұрын

    An interesting way they could bring back Kobolds would be still make them 0/1 zero drops, but with abilities. So, then you build around anthem and other pump to make them work together. Of course that doesn't make them much different than any other tribe, but the zero drop would be the selling point. The great thing about Sorrow's Path is the artwork, lol.

  • @lorisbach9905

    @lorisbach9905

    Ай бұрын

    Rograkh exists.

  • @martinrosschou
    @martinrosschouАй бұрын

    Lands does have a 2nd cost though, the 1 land per turn cost.

  • @jacktupp4358
    @jacktupp4358Ай бұрын

    A long while back I bought a copy of Gustha's Scepter because it seemed so bizarre and I wanted to try and figure out a way to make it playable. It's still in my random cards box.

  • @apjapki
    @apjapkiАй бұрын

    They count print a version of Rhystic Cave where if the opponent pays, you only get colourless.

  • @CommanderGinyu
    @CommanderGinyuАй бұрын

    There once was a legacy storm deck that utilised the kobolds with glimpse of nature to draw your entire deck on turn one. then won with SSG and grapeshot. Sadly it was too jank to ever accumulate a point in an event. Otherwise those Kobolds wouldn't be on the list

  • @kanrakucheese
    @kanrakucheeseАй бұрын

    I’d put #5 above your #6 pick at the very least. 1: In 1v1, it can pair with land destruction/disruption and/or ramp. Not as easy to pay that one mana if your lands are in the GY. 2: Using it on an opponent’s turn has some mind game potential (do you really have a counterspell in hand?) 3: It unlocks lands that produce mana of any type of mana your lands could make. 4: An opponent being tapped out is a thing that isn’t super rare. All of these are legitimately useful applications, even if they’re either fairly niche, not especially powerful, or there’s better ways to do the ones that aren’t, but certainly more useful than preventing one damage each turn at the very least.

  • @EclipsingReligion
    @EclipsingReligionАй бұрын

    Have you considered doing a "Worst Cards in Vintage Minus the Power Nine" video?

  • @JoeRoganAndMoreShorts
    @JoeRoganAndMoreShorts4 күн бұрын

    Dark sphere was used in a cEDH Deck, using ad nauseum, 90 Lands, sickening dreams to kill everyone, and dark sphere to reduce half the damage to oneself to not also die

  • @tehchives
    @tehchivesАй бұрын

    Echoing truth - should have been a 0 cmc spells list, to excluse lands.

  • @TrumanTheGrayMerchant
    @TrumanTheGrayMerchantАй бұрын

    Literally an hour ago, I was going through the worst cards playlist wondering if there were enough bad zero MV cards for a list. Crazy coincidence

  • @willwoll3138
    @willwoll3138Ай бұрын

    I took up the challenge to build a Commander deck around Sorrow's Path, and it turned out surprisingly good. Jacques le Vert is my commander to let all my green creatures survive the Path. Key creatures are Tamanoa, Fungusaur, Wall of Resistance, En-Cors (combined great with Mogg Maniac), Basilisks, Cockatrice, and Wiitigo. And just for fun, I threw in Aether Shock, since my creatures are all designed to survive a 2 damage hit. An interesting twist with the Path is in multiplayer. I can use the Path when two of my opponents attack each other. Causing problems for both of them. It is STILL not a good card, but surprisingly effective with a deck built specifically FOR it.

  • @budyfish9234
    @budyfish9234Ай бұрын

    Haven't kobolds seen competative play? I would have though a glimpse of nature cherios deck would have top 8 at least one event in its lifetime?

  • @NizzahonMagic

    @NizzahonMagic

    Ай бұрын

    Nope.

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax1375Ай бұрын

    That's a handsome Delif's Cone in the thumbnail. Wonder if it's coming up later in the video...

  • @ClexYoshi
    @ClexYoshiАй бұрын

    The only way you'd get me to play Kobolds is if WotC did Secret Lair: Furrybait Thiccbolds or something. Also, I'd argue lands cost your one land drop per turn and thus actually cost you mana production if you're playing a utility land without a mana ability.

  • @bluedestiny2710
    @bluedestiny2710Ай бұрын

    In an Enrage Deck, you need to tech in a card like Icy Manipulator in order to consistently use Sorrow's Path's ping ability against you. Sure, you can do it that way... but the question is more WHY you wanna do it that way XD Speaking of which, that's another problem with the Path. If your opponent has some sort of tapping effect, they can tap the Path at the worst possible time for you, maximizing the damage against you. During Playground Magic, I cant tell you how many games I won when I drop a Ring of Gix (3 mana Icy Manipulator with Echo) after I cast Donate on my Sorrow's Path and give it to my opponent. Its super fun when you get to do it against any player that uses primarily small creatures like Mono Red... and its something Control Decks WONT watch out for... XD Since you are counting Lands as 0 mana cards, there's one land that I can immediately think of that I feel deserve to be here: Halls of Mist. Its a land that DOESN'T add mana, has the dreaded Cumulative Upkeep: 1 effect, and all it does is to prevent creatures (including yours) from attacking if they attacked in the last turn. While it is usable by slower decks to protect themselves against aggro decks, it allows a creature to land in 1 hit first BEFORE being stopped by the card. It slows YOU down too, but at least you can choose to blow it up any time if you're ready to attack. Before that, its a land that eats up your mana production... which technically slows you down even further. Also, remember that affected creatures are still capable of using their effects. Pretty sure there are better ways to slow your opponent down that this

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrelАй бұрын

    Funny enough, I've actually seen Dark Sphere be played in commander, it was in a deck of almost all swamps that drew its whole deck (of mostly swamps) with Ad Nauseum, cast Dark Sphere, and then used Sickening Dreams, sacrificing the Dark Sphere to reduce the damage it dealt to you. Was it good? Probably not, but it was funny.

  • @jonothanthrace1530
    @jonothanthrace1530Ай бұрын

    I'm amused that Oasis doesn't actually depict an oasis. A tree in the corner doesn't count.

  • @billywhale1293
    @billywhale12935 күн бұрын

    The free kobolds are actually some of my favorite cards, i had an animar commander deck where my perfect starting hand had 1-2 of them, i ended up casting my deck of jank colorless creatures and sweeping the table by turn 5ish, the deck had about a 75% winrate at my LGS and im still quite proud of it

  • @carlegeiger
    @carlegeigerАй бұрын

    The kobolds work nicely in my Koll the Forgemaster sac deck... but apart from some sort of sac recursion or similar.... not great

  • @Bloody-Butterfly
    @Bloody-ButterflyАй бұрын

    I use Herbal Poultice in my Sai, Master Thopterist deck. It creates me a Thopter for Zero mana, works with my other artifact triggers, and can be useful in protecting my Coat of Arms.

  • @nk8244
    @nk8244Ай бұрын

    I think its interesting that even though these cards are horrible they're still great in niche decks - kobolds in Koll, darksphere in sickening dreams, Gusta's sceptre in Teshar(costs 0 and helps get things into graveyards) - Im not counting lands cos yeah they're just bad it's hard to find niche things to do with bad land design since they're typically a mana source.

  • @408JMP
    @408JMP21 күн бұрын

    Evermind is a genuinely useful card for my old school mono-blue sands combo deck. It'll give me something to use my mana on for turns 3-5, and draw me extra cards to help with land drops!

  • @AkukAkuku
    @AkukAkukuАй бұрын

    If they put a normal mana cost on Evermind nobody would remember it. It's iconic.

  • @apjapki
    @apjapkiАй бұрын

    Interestingly they tried to print a "fixed" version of Evermind as Everdream. It's still not quite good enough for spell copy commander decks though where Splice cards are popular.

  • @johnruhd5917
    @johnruhd5917Ай бұрын

    A funny thing to do as a way to stall in a (bad) Legacy Donate deck: T1: Mox Diamond, Rishadan Port, Bazaar Trader T2: Sorrow's Path

  • @GellyVelly
    @GellyVellyАй бұрын

    Heh I run almost every single one of the non-lands in Dargo/Jeska commander where all that matters is getting out Dargo ASAP, hopefully turn 1 with any 3 0 drops and then getting out Jeska on turn 2 to triple Dargo and swing for game. Dark Sphere is really stupid, but one gimmicky niche commander deck it's good in is Maralen Of The Mournsong. You Ad Nauseam until you get Sickening Dreams and Dark Sphere. Most of the deck is just swamps so you can always Ad Nauseam until you get both and enough lands to Sickening Dreams for lethal but save yourself since Sphere prevents half the damage.

  • @Paulthored
    @PaulthoredАй бұрын

    Sorrows Path... with something like *Chromatic Lantern* + _Damage payoffs?_ Maybe making it a Creature with Lifelink, whilst Anthem effects and Fungisaur type Damage enrage effects give survival & p/t growth? Would definitely like to see that type of effect though

  • @prosfilaes
    @prosfilaesАй бұрын

    How about the a top ten of the most useless broken cards for the game? I was thinking of a 0-mana artifact that just had 0: return to hand on it. Completely worthless except in decks where it's completely broken. Along that line, what cards were least useful yet most broken cards in the game?

  • @rowerewolf
    @rowerewolfАй бұрын

    If you're going to play Sorrow's Path in an Enrage deck, you're going to be tapping it for green mana with Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth.

  • @BlauJen887
    @BlauJen887Ай бұрын

    The 0 mana artefacts that can sacrifice themselves are ok combo enablers “eg when you cast a historic spell” and “artefact in you graveyard”; but the cone and sphere are not the best in that category, but they aren’t in the same league of bad as the useless utility lands😮. So if you are playing a casual format they are good to know about, good for customising a little (we don’t all have to play the same stuff) and sometimes situationally adequate/good.

  • @evangrip4618
    @evangrip4618Ай бұрын

    Rhystic Cave is even worse because its ability specifies that it can only be activated at instant speed. You can't even legally tap it for mana while resolving a spell! I guess that's not that big of a deal since it usually doesn't matter, but it could lead to misplays if you don't watch what you're doing with it.

  • @user-jd5zt4of8q
    @user-jd5zt4of8qАй бұрын

    Sorrow's Path would have a very fun combo - donate Sorrow's Path (preferablly to a weenie deck opponent), then use an artifact to tap it again and again while removing any creature below 2... Bonus if you have a way to tap and untap it

  • @edcrichton9457

    @edcrichton9457

    Ай бұрын

    Or if you have creature dying payoffs and you give them a choice to take hits from creatures or watch your plan accelerate. Only works if they run creatures of course. But that is why sideboards exist.

  • @RandonActs5
    @RandonActs54 күн бұрын

    Kobolds are fine for edh combos. I found a combo with delif's cone and teshar. Gustha's scepter is spiking hard right now. Don't underestimate zero cost cards.

  • @Alecations
    @AlecationsАй бұрын

    Most of these are still really good. I’d make a cheerios deck with a bunch of zero mana spells, not activate them, and do combo off

  • @nosrin1988
    @nosrin198815 күн бұрын

    Khobolds can combo with Cloudstone Curio very well if you need an infinite etb trigger.

  • @blueredlover1060
    @blueredlover1060Ай бұрын

    Oasis is really good in Horobi, Death's Wail, since it targets that creature. However, you're generally correct. It's pretty bad when it's not a free Murder.

  • @BigDrew49
    @BigDrew49Ай бұрын

    I've animated Sorrow's Path with Jolrael, Voice of Zhalfir. Shocking my whole board was worth it to KO someone with a gigantic bird land

  • @COBsomeone22697
    @COBsomeone22697Ай бұрын

    Kobolds used to have a legit deck in Vintage, but it kinda died out when people started playing online more, because the deck was suddenly way less consistent. I think it was probably just Vintage players stacking their Kobold decks at paper tournaments, but I still think their history should be acknowledged in some way, even if the success is a bit dubious

  • @michaelgrj
    @michaelgrjАй бұрын

    I have seen the kobolds played in legacy cheerios, surprised none of them have even gotten a single point

  • @Ktjnn
    @Ktjnn3 күн бұрын

    Tfw Gustha's Scepter is actually playable now, at least in Commander.

  • @bamit11
    @bamit11Ай бұрын

    Dark Sphere does have a combo with Ad Nauseum and Sickening Dreams to instant kill your opponents.

  • @frankvandorp2059
    @frankvandorp2059Ай бұрын

    3:31 I'm just taking a moment to admire the flavor of that card. The integration of flavor and function was so well back in the day, when Magic cards were still designed to represent actual spells, objects and creatures in a duel between wizards. The flavor text and rules text together describe perfectly how this artifact was used by a notorious wizard long ago. Cards like these are what drew me into the game 25 years ago. We've lost this kind of flavorful card design completely over the years and I really dislike that. It's perhaps one of the main reasons I despise Universes Beyond so much, which are cards without any flavor, that make no sense in the duel between wizards this is supposed to represent. They're just advertisements for people who like a Brand and want to buy everything there is of that Brand.

  • @colinfreyvogel3014

    @colinfreyvogel3014

    Ай бұрын

    I understand how a new player could *like* MtG now with all the franchise crossovers. "I like Fallout, let me try this game!" I understand how an old player who still has a lot of affection for the game and its mechanics and lore could still *love* the game and be disappointed in where the game is going. I don't understand how a new player could ever *love* the game now that it's become a consumerist mess of IPs and cash grab churn products. It's embarrassing and it makes me sad.

  • @JervisGermane

    @JervisGermane

    Ай бұрын

    Hear hear. This is why I don't play anymore.

  • @markuskruger5348
    @markuskruger5348Ай бұрын

    Szepter can be used in a reanimatordeck..u can destroy it by ureself ,big creatures goes into ure graveyard and u can put a big creature onto the battlefield in round one ore two..

  • @fatpad00

    @fatpad00

    Ай бұрын

    Problem is that is just Entomb with extra steps

  • @prestonbyrd8443
    @prestonbyrd844326 күн бұрын

    I'd make a case that Sorrow's Path is better than Rhystic Cave only because it affects any opponent, even if you didn't attack. If you arent running a creature deck, there's not as much of a downside.

  • @drunkcapybara7004
    @drunkcapybara7004Ай бұрын

    I'm curious, how come Darksteel Relic did not make the list?

  • @VolvoxSocks

    @VolvoxSocks

    Ай бұрын

    Darksteel Relic has some uses (ensoul artifact effects, for example) it's not outright bad as a combo piece per se, just not as good as other options for the niches it does have.

  • @magicsinglez
    @magicsinglezАй бұрын

    Gustha’s Scepter could do something. You’ve dropped two cards out if your hand for 0 mana. Then ‘creatures can’t attack you’

  • @DeDunking
    @DeDunkingАй бұрын

    Finished my next script, and I ain't about to let you slip behind that skibidi toilet of a MtG channel, so I came here with my real channel to rewatch this.

  • @T4N7
    @T4N7Ай бұрын

    I did not enjoy the inclusion of lands on this list. Losing ur land drop for a land that doesn't produce mana is almost always gonna be worse than an actual 0 mana spell. Plus u alrdy showed a bunch of those lands onnur worst lands list so this list could've have a lot more unique entries on it had the lands been excluded

  • @arbit4468
    @arbit4468Ай бұрын

    Delif's Cone and Dark Sphere both have the painful combination of cool art, evocative name, and dumpster-tier power level.

  • @mattchagnon5620
    @mattchagnon562027 күн бұрын

    You can also just tap down sorrows path to ping for 2 damage. It's so bad in every EXCEPT for the art. The art is amazing, and it's a shame it was wasted on this card. That dragon fighting the knights in the background is so cool!

  • @gunn25
    @gunn25Ай бұрын

    Ha! The legendary banding lands. I used the green one in my Riku deck filled with Legendary green creatures.

  • @newsuperstevebros
    @newsuperstevebrosАй бұрын

    No Darksteel Relic? I feel like some of these at least do something on their own but Darksteel Relic is only good if you hit it with something like Ensoul Artifact, and at that point you'd be better off with an ornithopter or any artifact that actually does something, like Welding Jar or Darksteel Citadel

  • @SnackCakes
    @SnackCakes2 күн бұрын

    Fun fact, land doesn't cost zero. Cost, including zero, involves casting. You cannot cast land, you play them. There is also no stack when you play it, only cards that have a cost have a window of a stack when being played

  • @RugaQwarrcall
    @RugaQwarrcallАй бұрын

    7:18 I mean... I would always prefer having the cards under it being sent to my graveyard instead of perma-stuck in exile...

  • @charlesboucher2370
    @charlesboucher2370Ай бұрын

    I used to play the kobolds in glimpse of nature storm in legacy lol

  • @wavesofbabies
    @wavesofbabiesАй бұрын

    Sorrow's Path kind of goes brazy in Enrage decks with Yavimaya/any enchant land

  • @hammerhyena4207
    @hammerhyena4207Ай бұрын

    I had a buddy that ran kobolds in a "Zero Mana" deck.

  • @latinojackson9694
    @latinojackson9694Ай бұрын

    I was expecting 0 mana nonlands, you might have well just done another top 10 worst lands video..

  • @dragonmz5274
    @dragonmz5274Ай бұрын

    Kind of surprised Darksteel Relic didn't show up on here since it actually does nothing except be indestructible. Must be some sort of interaction Im missing

  • @AENock

    @AENock

    Ай бұрын

    It's a solid target for Phylactery Lich and Ensoul Artifact. It has combo potential in a Cheerios or Goblin Welder deck.

  • @rogerstewart5525

    @rogerstewart5525

    Ай бұрын

    I was expecting that too

  • @hugmonger
    @hugmongerАй бұрын

    As someone who put in a bulk order of 40 rhystic caves... I cant believe you would just bad mouth my boy like that. Also... entirely true XD

  • @derrickpaulson3093
    @derrickpaulson309325 күн бұрын

    I run a Koll cedh/edh list with kobolds and they do work!

  • @matthewollar9842
    @matthewollar9842Ай бұрын

    Sorry, Kobolds put in work in Animar or Kobold Tribal

  • @elijahlyons8164
    @elijahlyons8164Ай бұрын

    I will be adding rhystic cave to my group hug deck. Thank you much

  • @Earthboundmike
    @EarthboundmikeАй бұрын

    Good lord, if that's 7, I'm terrified to see how much worse this gets.

  • @menoflowicz
    @menoflowicz21 күн бұрын

    Has noone tried to use Evermind with cascade or sth like this?

  • @minervadetauro7646
    @minervadetauro7646Ай бұрын

    Gushtha's scepter is nowhere near as bad as shite like Rhystic Cave or the Bands with lands. I know it isn't an official format, but the card sees a lot of play in Premodern Pit Rack decisiones as a way to protect your cards from your own discard spells like Bottomless Pit or Chain of Smog

  • @Moersfreak
    @MoersfreakАй бұрын

    Where is darksteel relic? The hockey puck that costs nothing and does even less? It's literally a 0 mana artifact with indestructible and no other effect. That's worse than all the 0 mana artifacts on the list. Also, the kobolds actually see some fringe legacy play. There's a deck called cheerios that runs all the 0 mana creatures plus glimpse of nature to draw through your deck and then win with either goblin bushwhacker or grapeshot. It's nowhere close to a format staple, but I think it should still keep the kobolds off the list.

  • @uglyaniimals

    @uglyaniimals

    Ай бұрын

    ooh good call, that def should've made the list over the kobolds

  • @KokNoker

    @KokNoker

    Ай бұрын

    I get the hockey puck reference, but can't remember the channel it came from.

  • @Moersfreak

    @Moersfreak

    Ай бұрын

    @KokNoker It's from LoadingReadyRun. Specifically, that episode of Friday Nights where Cam and James build the "strictly worse" cube.

  • @poboburgner

    @poboburgner

    Ай бұрын

    I ran it with ensoul artifact and other cards that make artifacts a creature. Sure, they can disenchant it, but having a 5/5 indestructable on turn 2 is nothing to sneeze at. Not to mention it being hard to remove makes your affinity for artifacts or metalcraft proc faster

  • @zakbrooks7354

    @zakbrooks7354

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@poboburgnerThis and the fact it came out in the second mirrodin block where metalcraft came to be

  • @davidbeveridgejr7089
    @davidbeveridgejr70894 сағат бұрын

    When oasis was first introduced, one damage was significant.

  • @nerferothdrake559
    @nerferothdrake559Ай бұрын

    It's funny, but it seems that this I have the most of cards in my collection from this very list than in any other list you've already covered))

  • @dragonkingxd29
    @dragonkingxd29Ай бұрын

    Definitely surprised not to see darksteel relic on the list.

  • @marcoottina654
    @marcoottina654Ай бұрын

    hey, Kobolds were a good "turbo" storm deck!

  • @DAsrada
    @DAsradaАй бұрын

    I've heard using Zedruu to give a player Rhystic Cave is the equivalent to calling them a foul profanity in whatever your language is.

  • @thekwjiboo
    @thekwjiboo20 күн бұрын

    Regardless of how terrible they are normally, 0 mana artifacts are great to have in my Galazeth Prismari deck.

  • @argentfang
    @argentfangАй бұрын

    The only good way to use Sorrow’s Path is to Donate it to your opponent, then utilize some force tap effects to grind them down, since Path hurts you AND your creatures.

  • @afrotreebear4907
    @afrotreebear4907Күн бұрын

    Dark sphere is kinda good ngl, saved me a ton of times in my jhora, the artificer deck.

  • @Mspaintfanboy
    @MspaintfanboyАй бұрын

    Deli cone can cuck inkshield, I think the timing might be off tho.

  • @davidlundquist1979
    @davidlundquist1979Ай бұрын

    Boy, some of these terrible cards have truly great artwork. Delif's Cone, in particular, looks like it could be some early concept art for Darksteel Reactor. Dark Sphere isn't bad either.

  • @garmatey3816
    @garmatey3816Ай бұрын

    I wanna play rhystic cave now just to dare someone at the table to make themselves my target for the game

  • @lukascowan6357
    @lukascowan63576 күн бұрын

    "it has to be bad everywhere" immediately shows the Kobolds that go absolutely crazy in Legacy Glimpse Storm edit: also the cards see real play in Dargo EDH decks

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