You two always feel like just an uncle and nephew hanging out on the porch talking , good stuff. 😊

@AdamVest

5 ай бұрын

I agree 😂

@DreP20

5 ай бұрын

My favorite combo from TFL

This electric car thing is coming to a grinding halt

@user-tb7rn1il3q

3 ай бұрын

Ten years from now people will say remember that electric sh-t.

A lot of what these guys call good tech is what I call junk I don't need and don't want to pay for.

The Altima hasn't just been what it used to in the 90's. After the 2nd generation Altima ended in 2001 quality and reliability dropped significantly. At least Nissan adressed the size/interior space issue that 2nd generation had.

Bought a 2011 Altima rental car with 40K miles in 2013, have changed CVT fluid by dropping pan only 3 times. Now we're up to 180K miles no issues. I also changed the small trans filter once at about 120K. Bought a 2022 AWD Altima new, has 33K miles. Like the ride & trunk space & 35 mpg in our mixed driving not much in city. Have Blizzak tires on steel rims only snow drifts will stop it ! Last winter drove it up to Arapahoe Basin ski area twice on snow covered pass & feels like riding on rails !

I know we're talking cars but so far one of the most satisfying vehicles to me has been my new 24 XD pro4x. Fantastic truck!

@aaron5222

5 ай бұрын

Almost bought one. Dealerships were so awful to deal with and didn't want to give me a fair trade in.. ended up with a base 4 runner with 33s and a leveling kit. But from what I experienced I really liked the frontier

@Santerianumero1

5 ай бұрын

@@aaron5222 don't blame you. Dealers are scum. I lucked out and had a great experience at mine. Ken Garff Nissan in SLC.

@c_solly5892

5 ай бұрын

​@@Santerianumero1My family and a handful of friends have bought from Ken Garff over the years. Never a bad experience. It's hard to find honest dealers, but they do exist.

I’m on my second Forte GT (first the 2022 six-speed which I sold to Carvana for more than I paid for it) then an identical 2023 GT with the DSG. Each with the 201-hp 1.6T engine. At $26K fully loaded OTD it’s been really enjoyable, and a hell of a value. FYI this is my 38th car (32 new / 6 pre-owned)

@reserva120

5 ай бұрын

That makes zero sense, even owning multiple cars at time - gives an average of less than two years , that’s just stupid.. and nearly 40 years ( still scamming , and buying cheap Kia ).., just stupid, very very stupid.. seek help .

@kcindc5539

5 ай бұрын

@@reserva120 I’ve bought exactly two Kia’s in my lifetime. One last year which I sold to Carvana at a $1500 profit. And one this year (with 4% interest and below standard OTD) which is my current daily driver (which is to say I hardly drive at all these days since I work from home). At 8 months I’ve put only 2K miles on it. I never trade in, I sell outright at a higher price. My cars are meticulously maintained and tend toward rarer/more desirable powertrains and options. As for your oh so helpful comment, I’m very good at managing acquisition costs, using leases where prudent, and maximizing returns on the ones with bank loans. For most of my career I’ve been able to take either mileage or acquisition cost deductions from my taxes which increase my refund to where the payments and insurance are covered. So I’m not losing money at any point, and I’ve got the spreadsheets to prove it. I’ve been doing this since I was 16 so maybe (just maybe) I know a bit more than you on the subject. So no, I don’t need help. I’ve got this covered. But thanks sweetie for your input.

@kcindc5539

5 ай бұрын

@@reserva120 I’ve bought exactly two Kia’s in my lifetime. One last year which I sold to Carvana at a $1500 profit. And one this year (with 4% interest and below standard OTD) which is my current daily driver (which is to say I hardly drive at all these days since I work from home). At 8 months I’ve put only 2K miles on it. I never trade in, I sell outright at a higher price. My cars are meticulously maintained and tend toward rarer/more desirable powertrains and options. As for your oh so helpful comment, I’m very good at managing acquisition costs, using leases where prudent, and maximizing returns on the ones with bank loans. For most of my career I’ve been able to take either mileage or acquisition cost deductions from my taxes which increase my refund to where the payments and insurance are covered. I know how to avoid negative equity. So I’m not losing money at any point, and I’ve got the spreadsheets to prove it. I’ve been doing this since I was 16 so maybe (just maybe) I know a bit more than you on the subject. So no, I don’t need help. I’ve got this covered. But thanks sweetie for your input.

@kcindc5539

5 ай бұрын

@@reserva120 I’ve bought exactly two Kia’s in my lifetime. One last year which I sold to Carvana at a $1500 profit. And one this year (with 4% interest and below standard OTD) which is my current daily driver (which is to say I hardly drive at all these days since I work from home). At 8 months I’ve put only 2K miles on it. I never trade in, I sell outright at a higher price. My cars are meticulously maintained and tend toward rarer/more desirable powertrains and options. As for your oh so helpful comment, I’m very good at managing acquisition costs, using leases where prudent, and maximizing returns on the ones with bank loans. For most of my career I’ve been able to take either mileage or acquisition cost deductions from my taxes which increase my refund to where the payments and insurance are covered. I know how to avoid negative equity. So I’m not losing money at any point, and I’ve got the spreadsheets to prove it. I’ve been doing this since I was 16 so maybe (just maybe) I know a bit more than you on the subject. So no, I don’t need help. I’ve got this covered.

@kcindc5539

5 ай бұрын

@@reserva120 I’ve bought exactly two Kia’s in my lifetime. One last year which I sold to Carvana at a $1500 profit. And one this year (with 4% interest and below standard OTD). I never trade in, I sell outright at a higher price because cars are meticulously maintained. I’m very good at managing acquisition costs, using leases where prudent, and maximizing returns on the ones with bank loans. For most of my career I’ve been able to take either mileage or acquisition cost deductions from my taxes to where the payments and insurance are covered offset by the higher tax refund. I know how to avoid negative equity. So I’m not losing money at any point, and I’ve got the spreadsheets to prove it. I’ve been doing this since I was 16 so maybe (just maybe) I know a bit more than you on the subject. So no, I don’t need help.

All these issues with transmissions. Bring back the manual options!!

@atmartens

5 ай бұрын

… it’s only certain makes. And most the ones with issues are either CVT or DCT.

@gdo3510

5 ай бұрын

Here here!

@user-tb7rn1il3q

3 ай бұрын

Manuals have a bunch of issues. They are actually worse than many automatics and then you have problems with the clutch. In big city driving you’re clutch will be gone in 6 months and you won’t be able to walk because your left leg will be twice as big as your right leg.

@gdo3510

3 ай бұрын

@@user-tb7rn1il3q if you can’t walk because you have to push a clutch in, you need to see your doctor.

And that is why nobody wants to make affordable cars anymore. There's no problem using the engine. I had a Corolla from the 80's with 69 horsepower stick shift and I would floor it, rev it up every single day and I had no problem launching, merging, keeping up with traffic.

My mother purchased an Oldsmobile Alero and only owned it for a week before taking it back. She loves her Tacoma and Camaro for sunny days.

I really wanted to like the VW Taos but honestly, the 7spd dsg 4motion version is just unsafe from a drivability perspective. In 15 years I've owned versions of the mk5, mk6, and mk7 golf, so I'm brand loyal to VW. I like the way the taos looks and handles but in traffic situations I have never in my life experienced a vehicle in which the engine, transmission, and gas pedal are literally at war with each other. The sad thing is Ive heard the 2wd version with the 8spd auto has none of these issues, but I after drove the dsg I went down the road and bought a Honda CRV hybrid. I don't love the Honda at all but it does what I need it to do safely and I trust it.

@rightwingsafetysquad9872

5 ай бұрын

Maybe it's software? I've never had a bad experience wirh a DSG.

I love your description of the infinity running like a tired old idling Mercury 2 stroke outboard. Hilarious!

My vw mk5 r32 has been incredibly wonderful to own. Small, quick, and the best exhaust note.

I actually bought a 40th anniversary gti with a manual specifically because of the rumors that they manual wouldn't exist for 24. I had to order it through a major leasing company that works with multiple dealerships in order to get a manual. They found one that was still sitting in the port in tx, hadn't even been delivered to a dealer yet.

Got a standard Jetta new June 2022, great car, very impressed with it. I also own a Suburban, Focus RS & a CRV. The current Jetta's are the best examples to date. Shopped many cars before settling with the Jetta.

Awesome drive and review with mark!💯

I have a family member that SWEARS by his Chrysler 200🤣 I have no idea why

@Big.W.

5 ай бұрын

I rented one of those I had fun with it

@BillLaBrie

5 ай бұрын

Massive power from the v6 if I recall. Not much else going for it.

I like the Vinfast VF3. I can imagine removing all the doors and using it as a really nice golf cart!

I feel like the Enos ride along and review could’ve been its own freestanding video! Great review and I can’t wait to see a follow-up video with Mark after maybe six months of shit and his first off-road trip!

I refuse to buy any EV or any vehicle with a CVT. On a different note, I LOVE my 2018 Mustang GT PP1! I will say I HATE dealing with Ford service departments. I've also had to do $2k worth of suspension upgrades but now I LOVE the way it drives and handles. It has come a long way from what we know muscle xars to handle. This car handles amazingly once you upgrade suspension components all because Ford uses cheap rubber bushings. If only Ford had done polyurethane instead.

Agreed on VW Jetta not being what they used to be. Absolutely loved my 2002 Wolfsburg 5 speed Jetta. That cars manual transmission was smooth as hell and that turbo made that car fly for what it was. I Also loved my dad’s diesel TDI. Damn that thing was a smooth ride and had a really nice interior….he had to give it back due to the emissions scandal though, and feel like they’ve just gotten cheaper and cheaper looking. That was around like 2008-2009 if I’m remembering correctly.

100% on the Taos. I work at a VW dealership and they are easily the worst vehicle they have for sale in North America. The description of the powertrain being at perpetual battle with itself is so accurate. I do not think your test vehicle had a flaw.

Vf3 looks super cool. Reminds me of the fj cruiser.

I had a 1990 Sentra 2 door not even a radio or ash tray i dont think,best car I’ve ever owned,98$ a month

@hoderharris

5 ай бұрын

I grew up with a single mother, she bought an 84 nissan sentra and a 91 sentra. Both vehicles were reliable and affordable. Will always have a soft spot for the 80s and 90s Nissan Sentra...

Sneeking in truck content. Very naughty! Even more anxious to get our Grenadier. Also needs larger tires.

According to 2 unnamed Nissan engineers upper level management knows about the problems(CVT) as long as it makes it through the warranty that’s all they’re concerned about.

My wife has a Seltos with a DCT and absolutely hates it.

CHEVETTE; Consumer Reports only rated the 1980 as recommended. Said the other years were much below average.✔✔

@gregmoessner3104

5 ай бұрын

I got a speeding ticket in a chevette!

@GaryRichards-cb1fc

5 ай бұрын

@@gregmoessner3104 So did I. Going 65 in a 55 mile limit. Mine was a 4 door, modified suspension, massaged iron duke. Great little car, black/gray.✔

@gabrielpaulsmom

4 ай бұрын

My sister had one it was no speed demon but it lasted and she had no problems with it. Rust claimed it the end but the engine was fine.

Being in the parts supply business, why do the parts for Kia/Hyundia cost as much as parts for BMW, Mercedes, LR/Jag parts? Also, late models are harder to find parts for. Customers are shocked at the prices of the parts for "cheaper priced" vehicles. We are seeing a lot of Korean vehicle trade-ins at our dealerships... satisfaction rating?

@foellerd

5 ай бұрын

Nobody “wants” a Korean car but plenty need one. Why? Cheap buy in and reliable with a warrant for 10 years/100k miles. After that they fall apart and are throw aways. Bottom line, they get the job done for cheap till customers can satisfy their aspirations to own something better. This is comming from somebody who’s owned 3 new Kia’s and seen them come and go. Now my family has Toyota money and we will never look back.

@laser31415

5 ай бұрын

@@foellerd agreed, having owned a 2014 Soul, it was the vehicle we could get when we Needed it. The transmission starting going out of my old Blazer on the way to do a test drive of a Soul. 4 years later we replaced it before we had ANY problems with it. That 10 year/100K was definitely a deal maker. When we could afford better we Got better. There is a need for vehicles in that price range.

@BillLaBrie

5 ай бұрын

Friend had a loaded top-line KIA suv. It was ok until the warrant ran out. Then it was about as costly to maintain as a BMW.

yea 4% as a whole....but around 50% of Golf GTI buyers in America bought the manual.....they are about to lose a huge amount of customers/sales

I have an Ineos order. Very early order, it says Q1 delivery but they haven't even started building it or have a slot.

My best car so far is my 2022 Toyota 4runner off road premium with kdss. My worst car. I really liked my new 1988 Chevy Beretta, it was such a great driving car. It probably would have been one of my favorites, but it was a falling apart piece of junk. I spent so much time at the dealer getting warranty work done. I have never bought a GM product since, the quality was just not there.

Jetta is the best with a stick,40 mpg 100,000 plus not one problem. Bought used. 2001 vw passat glx another winner

LR4 for cruisin’ with the fam and a manual ZL1 for fun.

I had a rock solid 18 cummins Titan Xd.Tough truck but def pump @64k.Then Turbo actuator at 94k. SOLD ! But their XD and regular Titan both with 5.6 were super.But then they dump it.Leaving only their proven Frontier.Bring back the Titan AND a few XDs.

Worst car I drove was my first car, was a 1995 ford Taurus. Compared to how much fuel it used, it felt so underpowered. Had the 3.0 V6 and still had to make a long run on the highway to pass vehicles

Yess give the trax love.

Chevy equinox, number one…just a guess. It was for me and I only owned half of it.

I just sold a Honda Civic Sport Touring 6sp after 8k miles. Absolutely hated it! I took a huge loss but no regrets.

All of these manufacturers stating to be moving all electric will be singing a different tune in a few years.

I cross-shopped the Infinity QX50, Audi Q5 Prestige, Lexus NX350, Volvo XC60 Ultimate and Subaru Outback Touring XT. I agree 100% about the Infinity, it’s a looker in and out (except the dual screens) but the drivetrain feels out of place. We chose the Outback, ultimately because we got everything we wanted at $15-25,000 less than the others.

I like these vids 😊

im torn on the taos. loved the interior and build

Personally, I probably wouldn't buy any car 'again'. Priorities and economics change over time, and I have no brand loyalty. Also, I just like to try different things...

The Fiat dealer near me also sells Alfa Romeo. I’m sure that’s the case for most Fiat dealers. There is no way that there are dedicated fiat dealers actually making a profit.

Very surprised you havent covered the photos of the production Charger than Dodge recently released.

Adding chapters to these videos would be much appreciated

If it were solid state batteries I would buy it with the yoke wheel. Design is great but when are trucks going to get a real useable bed

My wife loves her Kia Forte GT. Ton of stuff you get for 26k. We would definitely buy another one. Btw Nathan, the GT is fun, not slow! Has a DCT to. I have driven the other one and yes, it is slow. But you only pay 2k more for GT.

@nm-qt2hb

5 ай бұрын

My daughter has a 2023 LS and loves it. 40 plus MPG. Fits four adults comfortably. Nice size trunk , rides nice. For a new car around $23,000, hard to find another car as good.

@bigmacmach1185

5 ай бұрын

@OneIssueVoter ok...yea wouldn't want your wife or daughter to actually enjoy a car. I enjoy it to. Racer X uses it as his daily.

I may catch some flak but the first Tacoma I ever drove was like oh hum nothing special. I guess I just fell for all the hype

@Dusdaddy

5 ай бұрын

No, you are perfectly correct. Tacoma sells because it is just so reliable and consistent. It doesn't "wow" anyone with looks or gadget interiors. It just works and continues to work. I've always dislike Tacomas but even I cannot deny that it works and works well.

@phild9813

5 ай бұрын

They truly aren’t anything special, just more likely to last than the competitors for a long time.

One of your better shows , by far .. well done sirs ..

I have two main car purchase regrets in my life. First was a 1969n road runner, sold it before 10,000 miles. Second was a 2018 I hate to admit this one Audi A5 coupe. Although I'm very much an Audi fan. But the A5 was not for me.

So basically just avoid Hyundai/Kia and Nissan’s and you’ll be satisfied with your new vehicle 😂

@tonyn3227

5 ай бұрын

Basically, they have tons of issues, not sure why people keep buying them,

@Ace-002

4 ай бұрын

I personally never had issues with Hyundai lol.

I owned Infiniti 2004 G35x with factory Nismo aero kit for 10 years had no issues what so ever! Then I bought 2012 G37xS Infiniti for 7 years fortunately, it wasn’t as reliable. I was going to buy Q50 Red sport but transmission and price was not worth it. I was down with Infiniti did not like the directions was going. Genesis is everything Infiniti should be.

Low quality, low power or low reliability continually challenge an owner unless the purchase price was a steal. Steals are rare now.

Only reason why Elentra and Forte exist today is because Toyota and Honda chose to leave this market by making Corolla and Civic expensive and out of reach of many in that segment. Its a shame.

One issue with these list from consumer reports.. they are based on surveys that cover a range of years. These tend to create stigmas, positive and negative that are reflected in results. For example Honda minivans had horrible transmission issues for a few years but still received positive reviews based on previous years. Meanwhile cars that had teething problems early in their life tend to suffer in their ratings for years after it’s been fixed. I suspect that is some of Nissans problem with the Altima for example. They had horrible problems with their CVT’s for years. From what I hear they are now much improved. So how much of their negative results are the result of these kinds of bias? This can make it incredibly difficult for a brand to fix their reputation.

@garysarratt1

5 ай бұрын

These are owners, though.

@donschiffer7400

5 ай бұрын

@@garysarratt1 It’s an owners survey by Consumer Reports.

@AmericanDuck

5 ай бұрын

Also factor in the person that would belong to consumer reports and do the survey. Car reviews on CR are the most boring and over critical reviews. Everything is basically compared to a Honda Pilot no matter if it’s a Corvette or an F-350 dually.

I truly think that Infiniti, Dodge, Chrysler and even Nissan are in a very bad position. Nissan for so long has been the rental and budget option. People looking for quality don’t consider Nissan. Infiniti is even in a worse position. No one is happy with a CVT or cars that date back years and years. For Fiat, Dodge and Chrysler, I have no idea how those brands make it. The dealer network and so little models is mind blowing to me.

The Forte is the brother of the Elantra. The Kia Rio was the twin of the Accent.

What about the FWD Taos with 8 speed torque converter automatic?

No, god, Tommy, no, it's not how reality works. You can't just replace the CEO and instantly get results. Cars that are coming out now have started being developed when Ghosn was still the boss.

You can say whatever about Carlos Ghosn, but Nissan's greatest products were released under his leadership. The R35 GTR is a bit old-ish, but it somehow keeps being relevant. It's a great product, it's a great successor to the original Godzilla, unlike BMW Supra or GR 86-grand. It's the epitome of pate 2000s - early to mid 2010s gas-powered car: it's got the turbos, the all-wheel drive, it's massive and it's gorgeous. And Y62 Patrol might not be the most capable offroader, but it's the most confidence-inspiring one with absolutely enormous suspension travel and clever electronics that works seemlessly and instantly. Unless you got stuck with all 4 wheels or you simply lack geometry to clear the obstacle - this thing will just go not giving a single damn. And let me not even start how beautiful of a car the Y62 is, especially in that super asian gold color😍 Those two came out in 2007 and 2009 respectively. During the same era Nissan made a ton of cars that weren't particularly that outstanding, but had at least some cool quirks to them: the alian-looking Premera, the small and nimble Juke - the Nissan's vision of Mini, the great overal Murano, also as the Infiniti brand Nissan made arguably the best interpretation of a sports sedan, at least design-wise with those tasty two muffler tips in the back and overal very sporty yet elegant look with the G37 model, and it made the absolutely revolutionary, absolutely insane sportscar-based crossover, which was like a DBX of the early 2000s, except cheaper - the FX.

Least satisfying cars I have owned 1. 2010 Chevy 1500 Silverado Most satisfying cars I have owned 1. 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon 2.2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart 3. 1988 Ford Ranger XLT

Nathan buddy. You put 4 giants in a Venue at a mile above sea level and said the car was slow lol Is water wet? Is ice cold? 😂

I sold my 94 Civic and got a 2004 Sebring limited V6 fully loaded. Would I buy another. No! I was stuck with that thing until 2022. I had to put a starter and alternator on it in addition to maintenance and tires and brakes in that 18 years. Sometimes the dash lights flickered when it was 12ish. Had cars not been in such demand I probably would not have gotten the 3k I sold it for. I got myself back into a Honda. Guess it all worked out.

@baronvonjo1929

5 ай бұрын

Ive had Toyotas all my life. Bought a Honda Fit. Worst mistake ever! Just build quality issues and investigation kept showing how badly Hondas have been for many lately Definitely cant wait to go back to Toyota.

If I was spending $85k on an off-road worthy SUV, I would pick the upcoming 2024 Lexus GX550 instead.

China just banned all off brand E.Vs for road use due to battery fires so I dont know about a discount brand E.V here in the U.S

Bruh, Nathan at 29:23 🤣

@Oaky

5 ай бұрын

me and ur mom tonight 🏎🚨

10:52 yeah the GT is a completely different car. It's not civic si sporty, and something is missing that I can't put my finger on, but it's a much better car.

@roguedogx

5 ай бұрын

14:13 seriously, what was Mercedes doing with that AMG model? I get what they were going for, but they missed it by miles, which is very un-mercedes.

@roguedogx

5 ай бұрын

15:08 for me, it's that the Kia Soul exists, and this just seems to be a version of that, only worse in the vast majority of ways.

@roguedogx

5 ай бұрын

18:07 well the car's main appeal is it's price, and while it's a good price, you slowly realize how little you got for it. With the Chevy Trax now showing Nissan how it's done, I hope they are taking notes

That Honda show car looks like a door stop.

If fiat opened one bottle of champagne every time they sold a car they wouldn’t make any profit

The implementation of EV tech broadly across vehicles, as opposed to favorable niches is troublesome, very expensive, & of questionable viability. The future in these markets is fraught and uncertain.

You guys are nuts if you think people would be willing to spend $20k on a car that has a single use-case - getting around town.

@NathanDAdlen

5 ай бұрын

Over 250,000 cars sold last year disagree

I’m not surprised Kia is on this list more then once everyone I know who owns a Kia is on their second engine and hates their car

I owned a 2007 Altima that I maintained better than 99% of Altima owners and the CVT transmission still died at 135k miles after receiving regular transmission fluid flushes. It died without warning on the highway and I had to get it towed. Now, I have a 2010 Avalon that I love to pieces. I work at an auto auction and it is insane how often and how quickly Nissan CVTs fail. I've been in multiple 2022-23 Nissans that have a dead transmission and/or check engine light around 30-40k miles. Don't believe anyone who tells you Nissan CVTs got better. I personally have sworn off Nissans forever but if you absolutely need a Nissan, get something with a manual and pray that it wasn't trashed to hell mechanically by the previous owner or modified poorly (🎺🎺🎺). Side note, Nissans fail so often at my work that they are usually not worth fixing so a large percentage of our lot cars are Altimas and Rogues with bad transmissions, bad engines, broken AC, broken suspension, etc.

Our worst cars: 2001 RAV4 - terrible seats; 2006 Honda Civic - mediocre ride.

Someone just cannot stay away from the idea, enema? Wow! ✔

@29:22

I am a VW fan boi. On my 8th VW. 2023 Taos. The transmission programming is bipolar. Hurky jerky is am understatement. Beautiful car. Truly horrible to drive. Trying to sell it ASAP. VW has hit a new low. I miss VW of the 90s. May upgrade to a Tiguan.

Low range EVs will not sell well in the US at any price. You can get fine used eGolfs and Leafs now for under $10k.. Under 250 mi delivered range is a utility cart/golf cart of limited interest compared to a base ICE for 50% less. Even 300 mi Model 3s are a challenge for buyers. Infrastructure, poor cold weather performance, and price are a continuing challenge.

I have a 2019 Nissan Altima SR AWD, and yes the CVT is a pain the ass, the horsepower sucks, and why would you have CVT in a turbo engine, they dont understand the buyers needs, the CVT needed to go a long time ago, why would you do a soft refresh 2023 model Altima and still have a CVT, rant over 😉

It seems weird hearing Nathan say the Taos needs to lose the DSG. IMO, it's the best FWD transmission I've ever driven (in a TTS and GTI, never a Taos). Perhaps it's just bad software? Also please stop saying "CVT transmission", it's redundant and annoying.

1990 300 ZX non Turbo Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4 twin turbo all wheel drive 4 wheel steering active Erow

nice room for a you tube show...is that a fiat in the background?

Infinity going all EV will be the last nail in the coffin.

When will these car companies dump these terrible CVT’S. They all suck.

@phild9813

5 ай бұрын

I agree. But I don’t think they will be dropped. Seal them up, make them cheap and not serviceable, and you can contribute to the planned obsolescence theology and get people to buy new cars more often.

@turbojunki

5 ай бұрын

Yep, it robs every single vehicle they put them in of any kinda fun, power , or soul. Then on top of that, they’re terribly unreliable. Is just lose lose all around.

Actually it’s the Sentra that’s the volume seller dude

Most of these are starter/budget cars. Not surprising that people aren’t satisfied with cars that are small, slow as molasses, and have no features.

Best duo

After buying a used 2018 Honda Fit. Its honestly not that surprising to me why more affordable cars are not that satisfying to owners. I know I am several years away. But cheap affordable cars are CHEAP. I have been incredibly disappointed with the ownership experience of the Fit the build quality is the biggest flaw. Most of the issues are with the car itself being so fragile and cheaply put together. Opening the door makes me have a mini heart attack as I am afraid it will just fall off. I have a huge leak in the back atm and numerous other flaws. I dont really mind cheap materials as long as they dont break. But these be breaking. I think one thing as well is so many peoples first cars are used larger better built nicer cars. Even though many of these cars are over 15 years old. I think some people who are finally able to buy new are just disappointed how after 15 years the car they get lacks many of the features their old worn out rust bucket had. I was very surprised how my Fot had all this tech like three cameras but was missing stuff like rear cup holder, lumbar support, and more. Also the weak pathetic engines these cars have. I drive like a grandpa in a land yacht. But even my Fits lack of power can really be dangerous at times. But for others the lack of power is just boring as they have hevaier foots. Its definitely more to it than that. But I think its one perspective to consider. I have absolutely no intention of buying a cheap car new or used ever. This whole experience and seeing other cars being made today makes the cars just feel so weak and so easy to break. I doubt my Fit will last as long as my families other vehicles. Same applies to other cheap cars made today. Already seen tons of issues with the Trax.

I like to know how many Fiats are still sitting at the dealer lots... just for comparison 😂

The Nissan altima was a much quieter ride than a Toyota Camry Much smoother ride.

The 2013 Ford fusion is a disaster. It looks terrible crushed. The rear wheels camber in and the front struts explode while the lower control arms snap like twigs. The 2013 Ford Taurus looks good busted down. Furthermore the 9 speed ZF trans axle is a disaster. It has that dog clutch that makes it shift funny between first and second gear. ZF makes a great RWD transmission.

Audi, one Audi or VW is one too many! The worst car I ever owned/leased is a 2021 Audi A6.

I feel like Nissan had been turning things around for twenty years. Ghosn screwed them.

I sat in the back of a newer c class once. Just about gave myself a concussion on th sloping roofline. What a terrible design for a people mover.

Nissan seems very unfocused in the market and doesn’t seem to have a competitive advantage. It feels like they are just destined to make rental car fleets.

I'd take these with a grain of salt

I’ve seen many Nissan cvt vehicles with over 200k miles i have even seen cvt vehicles with over 400k miles still being abused at redline lol with the original cvt

What about the JEEP family?