I just picked up a 2023 Nissan Frontier.. got that $3400 discount on a pro4x. Plus now there is a $1000 factory discount. I saved total of 11% off sticker! And got 2.99% 36 m loan. This is real guys! I love the truck.

@jhardwood6960

4 ай бұрын

The new Frontier is way better than what car reviewers are putting in the media.

@grandmasterdiz6411

4 ай бұрын

Where was this? Colorado ?

@adamb6516

4 ай бұрын

I picked up the 2023 Pro-4x 6k off msrp with 2.99% financing. Love the truck

@snomass1

4 ай бұрын

What was out the door price?

@nathanschmidt3431

4 ай бұрын

That’s not saving man. Trucks up 25-30% across the board. Manufactures and dealers literally bank on statements like yours. Nothing against you, just needs to be said. There isn’t a single justification for the price increases. You’re gonna hear guys saying “I saved 15%, %20….” Over the next year or so, already seeing 20% “discounts” at some dealerships, few as they may be.

When its 2024, and dealers are sitting on 2023 models, which most arrived at the beginning of that year, they need a minimum 20 percent discount just to account for the depreciation from 23 to 24

All i can remember about f150 was new engine at 110k miles "cam phaser" never again

I’m waiting until I can get the deal I got on my 2019 F150. $16,000 in factory and dealer discounts off MSRP. A few grand off sticker is NOTHING compared to how much vehicle prices have soared in the last four years.

@Lq32332

4 ай бұрын

If you have a 2019 why even buy? Wait until 2029 at least…

@rustynail7866

4 ай бұрын

@@Lq32332 Not to worry. It’ll be at least 2029 before he gets that deal.

@Doug-gp2qw

4 ай бұрын

That's even better than the $12,000 I got off my 2020 F150 XLT.

@strykerentllc

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. These prices literally exploded since the coof hit being up over 35% in 3 years which is stupid and unjustified from the manufacturers. People need to hold off and the longer they do, the lower prices everyone is going to see.

@michaelchevreaux7780

3 ай бұрын

​@@strykerentllc The Plandemic Lockdown Agenda.

Rumor?: My brother-in-law was told by a Toyota finance manager that car prices are getting ready to drop due to the number of REPOs that are going on. A lot of people that bought cars with "market adjusted values" during and right after the pandemic are way upside down and cannot get out of them, so are letting them be repossessed.

@Le_Royaliste_Perlino

4 ай бұрын

People have been saying that since late 2020, it’s been going on for sure but it’s not significant, especially going into the rest of 2024. If repos are going to take place, they would have already happened.

@Le_Royaliste_Perlino

4 ай бұрын

People have been saying that since late 2020, it’s been going on for sure but it’s not significant, especially going into the rest of 2024. If repos are going to take place, they would have already happened.

Dealerships figuired out that by keeping inventory "low", they don't have to negotiate as much because people will get FOMO. It's the new strategy. "Oh I'm sorry, we have very few models and lots of people want them. Supply and demand"

@adamhatcher6620

4 ай бұрын

Yes!! Everyone refuse to buy a car or home until pieces prices get back to pre 2018

@user-tb7rn1il3q

4 ай бұрын

It won’t work since people want choices and will go to a dealer that will give it to them.

@leechburglights

4 ай бұрын

​@@adamhatcher6620 😂😂😂😂 The 80's ain't coming back, the 90's ain't coming back, the 2000's aren't coming back. It is what it is. Only way to see massive deflation of 20-25% is to have a massive stock market crash as what happened 95 years ago. And trust me, you don't want that to happen.

@adamhatcher6620

4 ай бұрын

@@leechburglights when no new homes or cars are selling watch how quick they drop

@AcidicJO

4 ай бұрын

@@adamhatcher6620I paid 39k for the most loaded F150 XLT FX4 package back in 2017, I’m still waiting for them to get down to those prices.

The cruise control digs never get old. Poor Andre.

The market is returning to normal, in the past I never bought a full-size truck that wasn't at least 15% to 25% off msrp. The covid market screwed everything up, people were paying the artificially elevated prices instead of getting automatic discounts like before.

@leechburglights

4 ай бұрын

Correction... people who weren't smart paid the higher prices. 🙄 smart people waited for vehicle inventory to raise, and the dealerships began to starve. I paid nearly the same price for a 2 year old vehicle last month, as the same kind of vehicle was sold used 10 years ago. I negotiated my price, and my interest rate.

“Like cruise control…” Nice little jab there, ha!

Is not a discount when the truck is 30 k over price

@mikesawyer1336

4 ай бұрын

I think yes overpriced yes.. but more features these days. Trucks are too fancy. Drop the crap and then get the price way down.

@The_MEMEphis

2 ай бұрын

​@@mikesawyer1336they have to justify newer vehicles somehow if you want a cheaper more bearbones truck just get an older model

Andre is the truck commentary G.O.A.T.

@Bigern2998

4 ай бұрын

Agree. He is genuinely passionate and 0% annoying. He seems like the kind of guy that anyone could get along with.

@teddonley9594

4 ай бұрын

It's always funny when Roman is with him. Andre : here is all the specs you might be interested in. Roman, interpreting, HEY LOOK!!! it's got a tow hook. Andre: here is very important recall information. Roman, interpreting, LOOK !!! it has tires. Andre is a total pro and handles that well

@Bigern2998

4 ай бұрын

@@teddonley9594 he is smooth and stays on task. He just rolls with it. The TFL team has a great balance of personalities actually.

Excellent show, I always enjoy your discussions. I just wanted to bring up some lease options. When you have a lease, you have 4 options at the end. 1. Turn in the lease to the lender 2. Trade the vehicle into a dealer for another auto. The dealer pays off the lease like any other loan. This is a great option if you are over the contract miles or if the value of the vehicle is worth more to the dealership than the lease contract buy out price. 3. Purchase the auto for the remaining amount due on the lease contract and keep it. Pay cash or refinance as another loan. 4. Sell the vehicle private party for more than the lease buyout. This is what I do, and I have made money on every lease i have had. Just think of a lease as just another way of financing that protects you in case that vehicle ends up not holding its value

You guys are great! Love watching this and all TFL channels.

Glad you did the work to let us know what more affordable options are available.

Did anyone else catch the subtle little poke of fun Nathan took at Andre when Andre mentioned possibly getting a better deal on trucks missing popular options (Nathan: "like cruise control") Eluding to Andre's mistake of thinking his Colorado came standard with cruise control when it didn't? Lol

Ram increased price by 50 percent in 5 years. My loaded Laramie was 50k otd discounted in 2020. The same truck with “20 percent off” today is around 63k.😂 so 2020s msrp. It’s the same truck. Go ahead and bite on that 10k off.

@thetruthyes

4 ай бұрын

This is why nothing will change, because people are to stupid to think and do the math. I understand some people need to buy due to circumstances, but the masses should really stop buying until these dealership and manufacturer drip the price by 50%.

@tg8150

4 ай бұрын

How is that 50% more than yours?

@rondejean7668

4 ай бұрын

@@tg815063k is 20% off of 78.75k , 78.75k is 150% of 52.5k. So using his numbers if his truck had a sticker price of 52.5k and he got a discount of 2.5k to purchase at 50k then all of his numbers check out.

Can confirm the gladiator discounts. I picked up a 2023 gladiator Willy's hard top that is very well optioned in November. Sticker price was $59500 without any dealer markup or "cost adjustment". After manufacturer discount, dealer discount, and negotiation I signed for it at $43400. It is a great little truck.

@Jcruzer70

4 ай бұрын

"Little"? Compared to what, a Tundra?

@mikesawyer1336

4 ай бұрын

Wow

@Cloud30000

4 ай бұрын

$60k was way too much for that package;; should have been listed at $45k

@johnnyfreeman1018

4 ай бұрын

You STILL paid 60k for a jeep my man....congrats but that is too much for a Gladiator.....🤷‍♂️

@adamhatcher6620

4 ай бұрын

When it's 45% over priced it's not a deal when you get 20% off

Got a 2017 f150 with 60k miles last year for under 30k. Absolutely love the truck. 5.0 fully loaded. If people keep buying these new cars prices will never drop. Car payments at becoming a second mortgage

Thanks for your program. I learned a lot about trucks. Just purchased 2024 F250 diesel fully loaded lariat in Dallas. 3k off msrp

The specials for leasing are based on the miles you agree upon. The miles allowed per year are negotiable, so is the end of lease payoff amount due. Some dealers get desperate to negotiate lease terms because they are counting on you buying the vehicle when your lease is up.

So many people who can't afford trucks lease them or get overwhelmed by the payment that used ones flood the lots- and Rams seem to be the easiest find in all trim levels. Why pay new pricing on something that depreciates instantly?? It's so dumb- I paid 31k cash out the door on a certified 2021 1500 Big Horn, Hemi with no active MDS, 3.21 gears, upgraded audio and powered mirrors and still have 50,000 miles left on my factory warranty, 7 years from the new date purchased. I still don't understand why anyone pays top dollar for a midsize "truck" either. Less comfortable, less capable, and just as expensive - if not more expensive than your entry level 1500 class.

@jesseflores9087

3 ай бұрын

Mid size trucks are more off-road capable with the shorter wheel base, and fit in tighter area trails. Also convenient if you live in a congested city like Los Angeles.

Ranger press drive event in middle of march is what he didn't want to say but other channels already have said it.

Thanks gentlemen! Great video. It is so nice to see cars and trucks selling at substantial deals again. I always buy whatever truck has the best price at the moment. Ram trucks are solid and a very good buy even though a little long in the tooth. For medium sized trucks I will buy the Nissan Frontier any day as long it is cheaper. Old school V6, no turbo and decent transmission are a very solid proposition. I won’t cry at Jeep’s grave because they have been so overpriced the last few years without innovation and improvement, so a correction in the prices is the least Stellantis can do. Buy whatever is cheapest!

Great video team! I always look forward to this podcast!

Gentlemen Wife and I in the spring are planning cross country driving for the next couple years just the pick up truck no towing .. what would be your recommendation for the most ideal for a 2 wheel? Affordability-efficiency, comfortable and reliable? You have so many videos I often get confused on which one to purchase-2-3 yr preowned We love your content it really can change one’s lives. Thanks guys, Frank, Phoenix, AZ

Thanks for doing the research guys!

I bought a 23 Nissan Titan Pro-4x for $34k out the door. MSRP was $59k. The dealership gave me $20k for my 2010 Tacoma and $10k dealership discount!! 10 year warranty

@wallbangerzsports

4 ай бұрын

Good choice. Nissan needs to keep the Titan around

@aarone9454

4 ай бұрын

Congratulations! I love my 2020 Titan Pro-4x. The only concerns that I have are payload of 1330 lbs & the v8 is thirsty (as expected).

@stevenpeterson7234

4 ай бұрын

@@aarone9454 I've done an add-a-leaf for a 1.5 inch lift in the rear and a 2.6 inch in the front and put heavy duty sumo springs on it and my payload is 1600lbs even with my whole family in the cab. Intake, headers (header wrap), exhaust, diablo sports tune and 92 octane tune. My mpg is 25 on the hwy with 35's. It's a great truck!!

@MS-mr4zm

4 ай бұрын

Yeah well….theyre also discontinuing it sooo…..

@stevenpeterson7234

4 ай бұрын

@@MS-mr4zm All V8's are getting discontinued

My favorite TFL series 😢. Wish you all the best. And the Scion rocks. You will be missed. Regards from Germany

Ive def noticed the prices dropping on used trucks/suvs in the last month or two. Wish i was in the market to upgrade because the prices are much more reasonable now.

You can normally bump up the mileage on least deals for very little money. Extra twenty bucks a month maybe for 12k or 15k miles.

I just got a 23 Gladiator Rubicon for 47k after rebates and discounts. The sticker price was 69K.

@woodjunkjrjr2689

4 ай бұрын

Put cardboard beneath it, to catch the leaks.

@trailrunnah8886

4 ай бұрын

That really is an amazing deal. I have a 4Runner, I had told myself I never wanted a car payment again, but the deals on the Gladiators are just so good. I've always wanted a new Jeep, it's really tempting.

@johnmorris77

4 ай бұрын

That’s actually the biggest discount I’ve ever even heard of. Got 15k off my 19 ram 1500

@wmry3195

4 ай бұрын

I got a similar deal on my 2023 Gladiator Rubicon last month.

I really like the new GM midsize trucks, GMC CHEVY look aggressive. Not hip on a 4 cylinder but it seems like a good fit, it's a large 4 cylinder. I would definitely buy a midsize GM. Nissan if I could get a bargain. I like the Tacoma but everyone has one. Love all the videos, Thank you TFL

@gro24x7

4 ай бұрын

If you gonna lease it,, go for it my friend

Three months ago I bought a 2024 Tundra SR. Crew cab, short bed. Only options: 4x4, tow package (receiver hitch, wiring) and the bed step. Paid just under $48k. Love, love, love this truck! Great MPG with or with my trailer, has all the modern convenience options, build quality is fantastic. I added a Redarc brake controller that looks like it was factory installed. Highly recommended

@adamhatcher6620

4 ай бұрын

Great mph!?? Lol 15:19

@brianaustin1328

4 ай бұрын

@@adamhatcher6620 20.5 mpg on average.

@rickeycooley9139

4 ай бұрын

@@adamhatcher6620well what do you think is good mpg ?

@adamhatcher6620

4 ай бұрын

My brother n law has a tundra and he gets 14 to 15 mph

@leechburglights

4 ай бұрын

This dude @@adamhatcher6620 thinks that a truck should get 25-30mpg? 🤣 Nobody buying a truck for good gas mileage 😂

Good information ℹ️ Thank you 😊

I just purchased a new 2023 Ram 2500 Power Wagon in Badazz Green, with the level 2 options, sun roof, rock rails, and headlights that move with the steering wheel. It MSRP'd for $83,265, and I was able to get $15,700 off that number. The dealer matched an offer from another dealer that was over 2 hours away. So, it worked out great getting the truck locally.

@strykerentllc

4 ай бұрын

3500 Power Wagon??? That's a new one, unless you mean a 2500?

@danaberman6929

4 ай бұрын

@@strykerentllc Typo. I corrected it. It is a 2500. Yes, 6.4. Typing on the laptop is a pain in the ass sometimes..

@mikesawyer1336

4 ай бұрын

18%.. very good! Happy for you

@CMS_96

4 ай бұрын

Can I ask what apr, if you financed?

@danaberman6929

4 ай бұрын

@@CMS_96 4.74% My credit union

I got a 2023 4x4 Ram Laramie listed at 69800 for 51900.

@cstgx

4 ай бұрын

Still a Ram

@jwhmerica504

4 ай бұрын

@@cstgxI’m sure you’re mom loves the roomy backseat in his ram. 😂😂

@cstgx

4 ай бұрын

@jwhmerica504 oh look, a kid making a mom joke. Makes sense though, only a kid would want a Ram

@wallbangerzsports

4 ай бұрын

RAMs are solid trucks. Way better than GM Chevy

@tomstarcevich1147

4 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with Ram trucks

I wonder if the new smaller engines for the full size 1/2 ton trucks plus higher prices will hinder sales? Maybe drive sales to 3/4 ton????

@1antisupercat

4 ай бұрын

I’d say so. Not a lot of people I’ve talked to want the 4 cylinder in the Gm trucks.

@agentcarder

4 ай бұрын

If you are buying a halfton with crew cab you should probably already be getting at least a 3/4 ton so this is actually a good thing

@rightwingsafetysquad9872

4 ай бұрын

@agentcarder Why? The vast majority of people who buy 250 class trucks for personal use wouldn't even tax a mid-size. If it weren't for sub-par rear passenger comfort, almost everyone who buys full-size should be buying mid-size.

@bdlii

4 ай бұрын

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 The new trend is undersized motors with turbos. They can do the job but the lifespan is shortened because they have to work too hard. A properly sized v6 should run cooler over the same lifespan and last longer. Especially the turbos and related parts and parts around those parts like to fail because they run so hot.

@rightwingsafetysquad9872

4 ай бұрын

@bdlii Yes, sort of. But the vast majority of people aren't taxing their trucks at all. So my point is that this trend shouldn't drive anyone to the larger trucks. And for what it's worth, the small turbo engines have proven to be more reliable than large engines with cylinder deactivation and diesel emissions controls. The GM 5.3L used to be one of the most reliable engines ever, now it's the least reliable engine in any truck.

After watching this, I checked for Power Wagon deals near me. The dealer had a real nice looking blue one marked down from $80k to $70k. But no financing deals...

@MS-mr4zm

4 ай бұрын

Better off w/ a Rebel

It’s ok having a lower rate but the monthly payment is still high on nthose Santa Cruz,so it means nothing in the big picture

I have never bought a Ram pickup with at least 10% off and usually between 15'to 20% off MSRP. I know I could get a Gladiator for 20% off MSRP.

I snatched a ‘23 gladiator rubicon for 24% off MSRP, it was roughly 15k off. I’d be curious to hear somebody’s argument as to why it’s not an ideal off roader. This thing was designed and geared for off road, with lockers front and rear, e-sway bar disconnect, you can tuck 35’s under without a lift…this truck crawls all over Moab and even better with a small lift.

Thanks Andre and Nathan

What’s crazy is how you consider a 5% APR a pretty good deal. Before the pandemic normally APR was 1.9, sometimes even 0% APR. it’s definitely doable if only people would stop buying and force manufacturer hand more aggressive incentives.

@nickschaps4022

4 ай бұрын

5% is phenomenal today. Most people are financing at 9-12%. Financing APRs won’t be changing due to lack of demand, the fed funds rate needs to come down for that to happen. A manufacturer can only afford to eat so much interest on a loan.

I was about to purchase a Gladiator Sport discounted to about $33,469. There was no power windows or locks, and it felt really small to me inside. I found the frontier S 4x4 for $1000 cheaper and standard power windows and locks, and Cruise control. I felt this was a better option for me. I did have to buy a tow hitch, but I can live with that for an extra $300 and 6 bolts.

@ValkenDnB

4 ай бұрын

You want the sport s at the very least.

I would like to share with Andre. I just purchased a 2024 Nissan Frontier S 4x4 bone stock. This Truck was Discounted to about $32500. It came standard with CRUISE control, power windows and locks. It’s a shame GM didn’t hook you up on your Trail Boss.

@leechburglights

4 ай бұрын

That's awesome! Hope you enjoy it! 4 things needed in a vehicle... AC, Radio, power windows, and CRUISE 😂I'm not attached to 4x4, but it does come in handy and I wouldn't say no.

Thank you guys 🏁🏁🏁👍

As always, excellent show guys!

Yeah great video. I just picked up 3 weeks ago a 2023 F150 Platinum High package with every option possible and the PowerBoost for $20,500 off MSRP.

What I think is happening with the higher trims being sold (and mid to low trims still available) is the "rich" (six figure income) people can afford to buy new vehicles, but the average consumer ("middle class") can't even afford a base model vehicle right now because the cost of those base models has gone up nearly 50% since before COVID. You used to be able to get a base model car or truck for under $25k before 2020, but now you can barely find one for less than $40k.

Here in South fl the cheapest truck is a silverado 1500 custom that range at 29k to 32k

Jeep has screwed me over twice so waiting for my 24 Tacoma. Should be here late February early March. Never getting a Jeep again.

There are a few 24 Tacomas in NE Tennessee/SW Virginia but not many

love the show. put us on the maps. I drive my 2019 zr2 Colorado over to Chico twice a week. I live in Covelo mountains population 1800,

No matter how hard y’all try to push the Hyundai Santa whatever its just not gonna hit

@peaceable263

4 ай бұрын

Not going to lie, its look is growing on me. I still find it to be a dumb vehicle to buy. The Maverick is the one to get until toyota releases its compact pickup.

@asvpab

4 ай бұрын

​@peaceable263 why maverick over santa cruz?

Thank you guys for trying.... great information but they all are still way too high. Let them sit on the lots

@TFLtalk - you can now order the RAM EV Delivery Van at your local dealer

I got around a $8,000 savings on a silverado zr2 diesel here in IL along with 2% interest rate from gm back in November. I saw 2 dealers near me advertising very similar discounts for zr2s that had been on the lot for less than a month. 5,000 miles later and I still love this truck and am happy with the price I paid.

@dcvernam

4 ай бұрын

What’s your loan terms and monthly?

@ferretsmiles

4 ай бұрын

@@dcvernam 36 months at 500 something a month. The total interest is going to be equal to about a monthly payment.

@adamnocon9432

4 ай бұрын

Better than nothing, still cost up to 70+ grand!

@Red_Beard_Actual

4 ай бұрын

That’s a lease correct?

@ferretsmiles

4 ай бұрын

@Red_Beard_Actual No I never said lease. I bought it.

How do you determine how long a truck has been on a dealer’s lot?

I’m ready to buy a new Ram 2500/3500 Hemi. Here in the southwest, every dealer I visit has only Laramie, Longhorns and Limited’s on their lots 🤷‍♂️. If I could find a Tradesman, 4x4 level 2 package, then I could get the discounts to get to an affordable price. Dealers keep stocking tons of $85k to $105k trucks which I don’t want!!! Pretty damn frustrating! As pricing pushed upward, it seems like most people will be wanting the lower cost more affordable trims. Getting $20k off of a $105k truck IS NOT A GREAT DEAL!

@843MudMafia.

4 ай бұрын

Buy a 6.7 Cummins if u paying that much

@hahaadventures4838

4 ай бұрын

@@843MudMafia. screw that emissions BS!!! 👎

@843MudMafia.

4 ай бұрын

@@hahaadventures4838 u tow alot

A brief search around my area and there seems to be a huge amount of Ram 1500 3.0L diesels around at deep discounts. A Laramie for $51K. Sticker was $67K.

@Hairygeese

4 ай бұрын

Still too expensive

@martyi398

4 ай бұрын

A payment on 51k once they include add on’s and taxes would be north of $1000 per month, that’s a hard pass for me!

@Dusdaddy

4 ай бұрын

@@martyi398 They discounted it $16k so there are no "add-ons". That price would equal the sticker of a 2013 Laramie. With nothing down or trade-in, you could get it for less than $900 a month. I don't see any other 1/2-ton that well equipped even close.

@martyi398

4 ай бұрын

@@Dusdaddy Maybe that’s true, although in my experience once you show up to the dealership and start talking numbers they will have add-on’s which sometimes are non-negotiable, of course you can always refuse the extras and walkway if that’s the case!

@Dusdaddy

4 ай бұрын

@@martyi398 That's rare, everything is negotiable. But this is a simple, no haggle dealer. Price you see is price you pay.

On the plus side, we get to see first hand how lacking cruise control will affect resale value :p

Nathan, you are growing on me, you’re biased towards Ram really makes it difficult to trust your comparisons. Keep up the great work. Andrea on the other hand is very very easy to trust. Andrea and Mr Truck on the Ike Gauntlet is the reason I ordered a 2024 Ford F350 SRW HO Platinum Tremor short bed to tow a new Brinkley RV 5th wheel. It will be delivered end of February. If you guys have read down this far, a great idea would be a preadmissions Ike gauntlet for 2007 or 2006 Chevy, Ford, and Rams.

Here in Australia, they have just started bringing in Ford F150 Dual Cab with the V8 petrol optioned with supercharger. The cheapest version is $225,000, and we pay $2.20 a litre for fuel, near enough to $9 a gallon. Hearing Americans complain about fuel and car prices falls on deaf ears here. 95% of these style trucks are diesels in Aus.

@MS-mr4zm

4 ай бұрын

You mean a Raptor-R?

I bought an all black trail boss for $40,999 sticker. Of course add state taxes, tag and title. No regrets, this 2.7 liter turbo is awesome.

The lack of inventory on the Midsize and Compact trucks is very telling, there’s a definite shift in consumer demand away from the full-size trucks although the manufacturers continue to push and are slow to respond (cut production) because they are such cash cows!

@justsayin3600

4 ай бұрын

I think the market is price driven. Full size trucks are simply too expensive. Mid size are the price of what full size use to be. It's not practical to spend 70-90k for a daily driver.

@gpaje

4 ай бұрын

I'm not sure, look at the sales figures, there's still so much less sold in the mid-size, I think it's just the fact that they produce just enough and overproduced for the full size, but it still doesn't explain the huge sales rift.

@MS-mr4zm

4 ай бұрын

Due to bidenomics😂😂😂

End of December was a good time to buy a 23 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 Hemi. $70K MSRP. Down to $50,500. That was when Manufacturer discount was 15% (10,500 alone), combined with a $9K dealer discount!

Are there deals to be had on Nissan Titans? 23 and 24 models since they are discontinuing them? Always seemed like a good truck (I wouldn’t tow a bunch and the payload is plenty for me. Basically need a full sized just since I have three kids, one in a booster and two in car seats). Anyway, seems reliable and plenty for what I need since me and the fam just go to the snow a good amount. Would love thoughts on that.

@armored-clown

2 ай бұрын

Just get a minivan with a hitch on it until they’re out of car seats. Trust me. I have 3 kids and they’re finally all out of car seats so now is the time to get a truck to fit everyone comfortably.

How do I find out how long a vehicle has been sitting on the lot?????? I doubt the dealer will tell me. Is there some other source for this information?

Even with discounts i just can't justify it. I'll stick with what i have and put money into it.

How do you know how long it’s been on the lot?

The gladiator makes no sense,not surprised its in trouble

I’m interested in a Ford F150 Platinum package. Would consider a GMC 1500 Denali Ultimate. Both 2023 models are on lots. How is it that they are not willing to treat these as “Used” trucks. So, MSRP negotiated down by 10%, from $75k to $68k. Now in 2024, why would the dealership not sell this example truck for between $62k to $65k?

@MotoCrazeBMWS1KRR

4 ай бұрын

Yeah just keep looking you can find them cheap. I just got my 2023 F150 Platinum PowerBoost 83,500 sticker price and I only paid 63,000 for it. Auto Nation Ford in Littleton.

Got a great Deal on my 2023 Tradesman 5th gen Warlock package in December, 17th to be exact, car was on the lot for over 105 days, financed through Chrysler Capitol, 43ish otd, MSRP was 50ish! Love the truck!

@strykerentllc

4 ай бұрын

You got hammered, brother. That unit was marked up 50% in the past 5 years.

@davidx4590

4 ай бұрын

@strykerentllc I disagree, I got a great deal as far as I'm concerned, even if I mention I got the truck for $5, there's ALWAYS someone that could have gotten the same truck for 25 cents, I'm happy with My purchase which is all that really matters.

It's going to take more than that to get me into their dealerships. I can wait.

@TFLtalk: when will Andre be trading his Colorado for a larger truck?

Gonna order the 24 ranger STX which is a bargain in today’s market to me. Took a long time to be honest with myself and admit I don’t need a light duty full size

@PrepperDawg

4 ай бұрын

That looks to be a solid choice.

@awesomeerr8765

4 ай бұрын

I'm looking at the 24 ranger xlt with the fx4 package. Interior is way nicer than the tacoma and over all you get more bang for buck.

@charlieb308

4 ай бұрын

But will on women be attracted to you with small truck?

@DarthNero

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@charlieb308women sees the status of a vehicle while the men care about the bigger size of it. Hes going to get bunch of men turning heads at him the bigger the truck he drives is

@charlieb308

4 ай бұрын

@@DarthNero I never understood the use of a mini truck, my full size 2019 F150 gets 19.6 mpg in towns and 25-26 in highway, has 6.5’ bed and lots of power.

I was one of the last ones to get a GMC Canyon AT4 from Colorado definitely at MSRP no discount great truck!

A lot of the prices they show are all the rebates added together that you might not qualify for.

@Dusdaddy

4 ай бұрын

Actually no. They are only listing discounts everyone can get. Besides, military/student is usually only $500. The conquest rebates from Honda they explained thoroughly.

I don't know if it's a lingering supply chain issue or if dealers are just stupid, but I can't figure out why most GMC Sierra 1500's with the 3.0l don't have the max trailering package? Having the option to (legally) tow an extra ~4k lbs for about $850 on most truck configurations seems like a no brainier, but there are almost none out there.

@ArtgGar27

4 ай бұрын

The payload boost is great with that package yet not a single 1500 has it!

The weather isn’t to different here in western NC it was 5 degrees out and snowy here today

Well hard to pay that price especially since we're almost 4 months into the year already. Might as well wait till 25 and buy 24 at this point

Andre thanks for the hard work. Everybody will be getting there income tax checks soon!

Just left my local Ford dealer in Fayetteville, GA they have market adjustments on the super duty’s. About $2500 on top of MSRP. 🥴

@dustincollins16

4 ай бұрын

Let them sit there

@wallbangerzsports

4 ай бұрын

and then they’ll call you 19 times a day begging for you to come in and get ripped off

@highwayman1218

4 ай бұрын

Yep.... Ford isn't playing the free money on their trucks.... They're selling them... Best I could get my 23 Raptor is 2.5 k in add-ons over msrp. On the flip side they keep their resale. No one wants the throwaway RAMS or timebomb GM trucks.... They have to drop $$$$ to try and get them off the lot....

I've seen up to up to 9% in Canada

Why didn’t you review the Ram trucks at the Chicago auto show?

The 20% MSRP will be back very soon. The only issue now is that people still pay the outrageous prices. My truck payment is $890.74, and it is for a 2021 Toyota Tundra Limited, which I bought back at 2021 at MSRP and my rate is 2.59% for 60 months loan. Now, a buyer of a mid-size truck will most likely pay more per month than I do for a full time truck.

@trumptookthevaccine1679

3 ай бұрын

Do you paid $65k?

@user-fp9rv2bn6f

3 ай бұрын

@@trumptookthevaccine1679 The Out the door price was a bit less than 56k not 65k, I think before taxes, tag, and license the price was about 51k. They did not charge the dealer fee, but here in WA the sales tax is almost 10%.

surprised Nathan knew about BTS! 😂

this must be in the states because i'm in canada and the prices or ridiculous

You also have to remember in 5 years when the used car market starts to normalize these trucks will nose dive in value. So everyone here has a valid point with 20% off of a truck that was increased by 50% is going to have you end up under water in a few years

What’s the Best Buy when paying cash!!!!!

I just picked up a 2023 F-150 Platinum 2 weeks ago for $7k off msrp and 2.9% financing for 72 mo.

Ram Trucks will have 15-25% discounts. I did 23% June of 2023. Ram Lonhorn priced at 57.6K purchased for 43K

@wallbangerzsports

4 ай бұрын

Nice. The Longhorn is the most beautiful trim. and $43k is great price

@deanjasso174

4 ай бұрын

Wow, that's a great deal. I tried to buy two new Big Horn packages that listed for 58k from my local Ram dealer Steeler in Columbia South Carolina. The best they would do was 7,500 off each truck. That was a month and a half ago. Needless to say, no sale to these chumps in Columbia

On online it says we have a $40,000 Mavic truck two of them at the Ford dealership you get there oh we just sold it but we have this $1000 truck over here😂😂

Deep discounts on WHAT? DEEP OVERPRICED TRUCKS? No effing way. I am going to buy a new full sized truck. I am going to wait until the PAIN is soooo bad that the price is in the true basement. I was bent over for 3 years and although firmly in the middle class I was priced out of a truck. Pound sand until the new REAL price is below 30 g for a lil baby truck.

Jeep is struggling to sell the gladiator. Even with 12k off msrp I see lots of them still sitting on the lots. They havent even started with 2024 production because how many 2023s they have in inventory.

@highwayman1218

4 ай бұрын

They were cool as a niche vehicle when they were one offs from AEV, etc... Once they were a production Jeep? As a Jeep guy, it didn't take long to see a couple things from people buying them and taking them out.... They don't make good trail Jeeps or good trucks... I guess they're ok as Overlanders, but myself personally there's other vehicles I'd rather build an Overlander on.

@fredwilliams7893

4 ай бұрын

Gladiators! Perfect for female blonde bimbos to drive to high-school while playing Taylor swift!

I just got a 2024 ltz for 55k with an original msrp of 65 and with a 2.9 apr and im saving about 300 a month over if i didnt have these deals

Can confirm discounts on the Ram 2500’s in Texas. I picked up the Ram 2500 Rebel with the SO Cummins. Picked it up right before end of last year. Ended up getting the truck $21K under MSRP. Loving it so far. Cross shopped GM 2500’s and F250’s. No tangible discounts were being offered on those trucks. Plenty dealerships still wanting over MSRP on high trim F250’s too out here. Appreciate the content as always TFL Team.

I just bought a 24 Silverado Zr2 and did not pay sticker

Question is the Nissan pick up as reliable as the Toyota Tacoma?. In your opinion

@jaimeavakarianvillamonte744

4 ай бұрын

Toyota reliability is greatly exaggerated. Their hype comes from people with little experience with other vehicles. These people think Toyotas are the only vehicles that can reach 100k 😂

@trailrunnah8886

4 ай бұрын

​@@jaimeavakarianvillamonte744 I think Toyota reliability is kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy. People pay more money for the Toyota, justifying it because it's reliable, and therefore they intend on taking really good care of it. So with all the care, it's reliable. On the other hand, people will buy a Kia because it's cheap, and then not take care of it because it was cheap.

@CACressida

4 ай бұрын

​@@jaimeavakarianvillamonte744 coming from a person who's never owned a Toyota. As for the Frontier, the new engine is still too young to predict reliability.

@littlestinker9716

4 ай бұрын

Frontier is more reliable. Way better engine than the outgoing and incoming Tacoma.

@jaimeavakarianvillamonte744

4 ай бұрын

@@CACressida ive owned 13 different makes. My new corrolla was the worse piece of shit I ever owned. Luckily the 5000 in repairs were under warranty. Toyotas are for stupid people

For Ram it's all about their Cab and Transmission being old and stale followed by their engine being lower in power. They're 5 years too late to the party which is too bad because they were on a roll with their half ton trucks.

@MS-mr4zm

4 ай бұрын

The ZF trans is very good tho, & they’ve ALWAYS been down on power