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"I'm comfortable to report the wifi on the new thermion 2 is just as shit as it was on the original" 😂😂😂😂 nearly cracked a rib laughing at that, my sides where in orbit! Tell it how it is. Respect for that.

@BullseyeBob

2 жыл бұрын

I can connect to Wifi no problem, unfortunately it will only transfer stills to my phone but not any video files.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

That's very odd Bob. Mine has been fantastic since the latest firmware upgrade. Are you using stream vision 1 or 2. In my android there is no file path to the video files if I use the 2 version.

@BullseyeBob

2 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK I'm using version 2, the beta. Maybe I should update the firmware? It's a brand new unit. Also, I made an endscreen on my latest video from your video review.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely upgrade the firmware mate. And try stream vision 1. The 2nd version is still in beta

@BullseyeBob

2 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK Will do....thank you!

Why are your reviews better than any retailers reviews out there??!?! Amazing job Sir!

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, appreciate it. Helion 2 XP50 Pro review should be live in the next week too 👌

Probably one of the best termals out at the moment. If I had a spare $8000 I would. They are brilliant

Thank you for taking the time to make this one.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

very well spoken review man highly informative...feels like I better start saving some bucks

Thanks for taking the time to make this video

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Great review, thanks for taking the time to share.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

No worries mate. You keep the vids up too eh 👌

awsome! Cheers for the upload.

Great review as always mate! I'd love to be able to justify the expense but just now sadly not gunna happen. Keep up the vids!

Some nice glass you got there, good guy, good hunting, and good videos are on this channel. Gods speed to all ya Aussie guys and gals. 👍🎥🥇💪🏽

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Joel 👌

i would love to see a vid on where to start when you want to get into hunting at night. entry level stuff, like thermal and night vision. great vid and thanks

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard. I've got a few video's on NV and a thermal comparison. But the market is quite dynamic and hard to keep up with sometimes.

Great review Nathan, gee you play with some good toys in enviable locations. 👍👍

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Clint

Great review. Thanks for answering my questions in the review. Think I may also upgrade from XQ to XP.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

Great stuff, keep up the honest work

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated

some honest and handy info for anyone researching thermal scopes before buying one, well done Nathan

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Stop watching my shit and get some content out from ya trip 😂

@robincoker225

3 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK not shit at all bud

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

You know what I mean 😂

Excellent video 👍🏻

Great review fella, I must admit I smiled a lot when I didn’t have to wrestle the focus ring on my Thermion 2 XP50 as well, and totally agree about the lense cap, minor tweaks but very glad they did it!

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the new lens cap is a winner for me. Probably a $25 part on a $8K scope but I appreciate that a lot. I broke mine easily on the XQ50. Glad you like the video, Certainly a nice scope to use as you know !!!

@MrBHuntingDownUnder

3 жыл бұрын

It certainly is, and I’m Victoria based so it really is tested in bad weather down here and that is where the bigger differences between it and the others around are shown to me

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

It will be a good step in advancement of thermals now IMO. Should hopefully see a shift on other new products with a 25mk sensor. Certainly is handy for us poor weather shooters !!!

@MrBHuntingDownUnder

3 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK for sure, with the market heating up now with everyone jumping onboard, we the consumer will get a lot more choice and better bang for ya buck in the near future as prices drop and quality goes up

@fishmut

11 ай бұрын

How’s the price fair on them now in 2023 , nearly shit myself when I seen the price , high end hunters only it seems.

Very interesting thanks for sharing 👍

Great review, one day I might have enough $$ to buy one.

Nice vid mate👍👍

excellent reviews.

I went with the trail 2 mainly for the laser range finder.Great review.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

The LRF is certainly a very handy drawcard on the Trail series.

Great, detailed review! Thanks

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Excellent job on the reveiw.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you 👌

Really good review.

Great review mate 👍🏼👍🏼. I’d definitely love to make the transition from standard spotlighting to thermal hunting. Keep the videos coming

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim. It's a cool path to follow but expensive 🤦‍♂️. Best advice is get a thermal scanner. You'll see so much more than with a light, mind boggling how much I've driven past over the years.

@timcollins5179

3 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK definitely. I’m lucky enough to have a mate that actually hires out some of the older thermal gear which I get to play with from time to time. I’ll be heading out for a shoot in a couple of weeks (it’s been about 3 years since my last trip away) so I’ll be scanning the freshly planted crop country with a thermal monocular 👍🏼👍🏼

@wcsdiaries

2 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK what's the best thermal scope for video recording? I'm a filmmaker and want to get some cool night footage of safaris with the highest quality possible !

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

I find Pulsar records the highest quality video from all the brands I've used.

@wcsdiaries

2 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK Awesome thank you. Can't wait to own one one day

Good video and it helped me make my decision

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it helped 👌

You produce a great video … thank you

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

9:13. Reminds me of the pixles in Doom 2.

Hi awesome review, just wondering by manually adjusting the zoom to 3x rather than the base mag of 2x, does the pip function still work? Would the pip power then be set to 6x? Thanks again for a great review👍 Michael

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael. Unfortunately no you can't run the main screen at 3x and also the pip. I'd like to do that myself.

well ya sold it too me buddy, ordered today will be delivered tomoz, top man

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

That's amazing you can get stock so fast. Well done 🤙

Perfect

Great picture ay, any Yowies running around there had better watch out, hard to hide from that thing.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

The wider FOV assists with drop bears too 👌

@kell7195

3 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK What do you think? kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2SnyZuzZ8jMgLg.html

Many thanks for another helpful review (I bought the Helion 2 XP50 thermal monocular on the basis of your review and I’ve not been disappointed), when you are using this sight at night what do you use for ranging? The bracketing technique on the sight (the same I think as is on the monocular) would be just too slow.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

I can get away with a regular rangefinder generally off a terrain feature. But shooting on a centerfire it's not too bad anyway as most shots are under 150m for my night use.

@labor475

2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks Nathan, my regular range finder (Hawke LRF 400) can’t really see anything in the dark and I expect you are probably just judging the distance from experience and the size of the target. I see Pulsar offer the Axion XQ38 thermal LRF which would allow for quick target scanning and ranging but it is pretty much the same cost as the sight. The Pulsar Thermion 2 LRF XP50 is starting to appear on websites now but the cost is half as much again. An alternative is the PARD T-Pro 12µm 42mm Thermal scope with built in rangefinder for about the same price as the non-LRF Pulsar sight but still expensive. No easy solutions!

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

I run a Leica LRF so that sucks in a fair bit of light. The new InfiRay Finder FH35R will be interesting too. I have only just received one to play with and it has a lot of great features.

Labrador has same bluetooth issue. My android won't connect. Others have same issue

Howdy Nathan, Great videos and thanks for the effort you put into them. Just wondering if you have had a chance to compare the Thermion 2 and an ATN Thor/mars 4 640? or what are your thoughts on the two? I notice magnum sports have the 4-40 ATN mars 640 on sale from $12000 down to $7900, compared to the thermion 2 for $8000. Regards Shannon

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Shannon. Not something I have compared. The ATN is older tech and a lot of people had issues with them. Given the choice between the two the Thermion would be my pick.

@ScoutsVertebratePestControl

2 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK No worries. Thank you for the opinion and keep up the good work.

May I ask what quick resale mounts you are using please and do they hold zero

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

8 ай бұрын

I covered that in the video

Just drooling... one day... especially as you can drop to 2x. 4x is too much when you don't have a monocular

Thank you for talking

How much is the Xp50 roughly in Australia?

Hey There. Thanks for a great Review. When the Thermion is Zeroed in on your Rifle and you remove it, how well does the Thermion keep its origional Zero when you remount it?

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

It's excellent, but only as good as the mount you are using. I'm running a Porter Machine Works Unimount 👌

@rustysranch2049

2 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK Those Australian made mounts are awesome, Ian is an awesome fella, stands by his product 100%

I hunt wild boar with Thermion XQ50. Super happy with the sight, really top class. Used the sight while hunting when it was -21 °, flawless! Lives and hunts in Sweden. be safe

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Nice work. Thanks for watching the video and commenting 👌

@lesgrossman9492

2 жыл бұрын

How far away can you positively identify a hog with the xq50? I hunt a working cattle ranch filled with hog sized calves.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Depends if the pigs are moving (they usually are at night) . There's a lot of factors in good ID as the range increases.

Hi Nathan. I live just north of you at Macksville. I am looking at getting a thermion scope the same as yours xp 50 Where did you get yours from and how much are they. Thanks buddy for your help.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

I got mine from Foxdog Outfitters mate 👌

Have you had any issues with POI shift? I know in the original trail XP/XQ would change depending on the temperature have you experienced this with the thermion?

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Thermion has been solid for me. The original trail's were renowned for issues like you mention with temperature.

Hey mate! Wondering if you’ve compared the xp to the xq50? I’m tossing up between the two and know that the xp is unreal, but can’t get my hands on an xq to see it for myself (live very remote!) and the $3k price difference between the two LRF models is appealing…

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

Жыл бұрын

I owned and reviewed the original Thermion XQ50, but haven't played with a newer Thermion 2 Pro XQ50 sorry.

@Lukeveltman

Жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK ahh ok, thanks anyway for the reply! Been loving the content since I found your channel :)

Any chance you could review the pulsar thermion duo DXP....or have you?? Good info from your channel👍

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

Жыл бұрын

The DUO isn't even released yet mate. Only announced.

@andrewlang7964

Жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK okay all good ...I've seen them advertised ..just assumed they were on the market. Are you planning on trying it..at $7500 I'm asking a bit I know but just throwing it out to get your thoughts. One other thing if I can...do you use quick detach mounts and use thermals across multiple platforms?

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

Жыл бұрын

I'm unsure on the DUO, this week at shot show there will be a few more new products released I'm more keen to try. Mounts, I use a Porter Machine Works Unimount for 100% zero repeatability across my rifles.

Thanks for the review. Unfortunately this is out of my price range. What brand of QD rings are you using? Are you happy with them?

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it's an expensive scope for sure. For me it's more about better quality footage. The XQ50 certainly did the job just fine. I'm running Warne Maxima Quick Detach Rings on 5 of my scopes now. They are fantastic and zero return to within 10mm @ 100m every time.

@bruiser6479

3 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK Thanks Nathan. That’s pretty impressive performance from those Warne rings.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

I've been really happy with them 👌. Took me a long time to get the confidence to say that.

the WiFi connection what app are you useing would it make a difference good product review chers

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Just Streamvision mate. It did improve with an update to this scope after I filmed this review. Streamvision 2 was not released when I filmed this.

@Matt-fo5xj

2 жыл бұрын

that's is good to know I just got that app should have my thermion 2 soonish hopefully

In regards to mounting this scope what height detachable rings work best on a picatiny type rail? (Tikka T3x) Cheers

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Generally medium rings but there's a few factors at play with barrel clearance etc.

@alanbates5596

2 жыл бұрын

Are those rings Warne maxima medium height nathan, I'm mounting xq50 thermion 2 on t3x with pic rail?

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

I have run the Maxima Medium QD's. IMO the Porter Machine Works Unimount is better for bang on return to zero 👌

Hi, did you try the XP50 together with the LE-032 range finder?

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

No sorry I have not ever used that rangefinder

@ahns1170

2 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK would be great if you could do a video about that. Did you ever wish you could have a range finder for your night hunts? I’m actually looking into the XP50 but the fact that I can’t range is a limiting factor for me.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Look on Pulsar USA's FB page. THERMION 2 XP50 LRF is being released very soon. I hope to get hands on one 💪

Hey nath maybe try aeroplane ✈ mode while connecting to the wifi if that makes any difference

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

It made no difference at all Darren. Stability has improved with the last few firmware upgrades. But at the time of this review it was very poor (just like my XQ50 Thermion was)

Can you please review the pulsar xg50? cheers

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry mate, Not available in Australia. USA only model the XG is.

How does the Thermion2 Xp50 compare to the thermion 2 XQ50? I'm assuming the XQ50 you are referring to in the video is the thermion1

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I owned an original Thermion XQ50. Haven't played with the 2 version.

@tomcockerham6576

2 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK I would imagine it's half way between the two then.

Hi, can we charge your Pulsar trail with Power Bank while it is running?

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

Where is your tri pod from have you got a link ?

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jason. There's a link in this one. Might have to check it's still current but it'll give you the model etc. kzread.info/dash/bejne/faamrK6LlLXQZco.html

How does the Thermion 2 xp50 go during day light hours.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

It's alright but obviously the temperature gap in sunlight is less.

Wat is the longest distance you recommend taking a shot at a pig if you have a stable platform . And what scope do you recommend from the scopes you have seen and tested. Distance is a big problem because some of the animals is up in the mountains so there is no going closer. Thanks for the review 👌🏻

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

That's the thing with Thermal, you just move closer. It's not a long range precision tool. Sure it's usable at 300-400m if you can clearly ID the animal. But that's not the point of using a passive tool.

@collinsaunderson9225

2 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK Understand, l have not yet used the Thermal product you have and l am hunting one animal at a time so it wil be like a fox just bigger so long if the scope is good for the shot. How far can you clearly ID a fox and shoot it.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

250 meters easy enough if it's moving. A lot of thermal ID is with movement.

@collinsaunderson9225

2 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK You see most of the animals l hunt can kill or injure you in a bad way 😬😬😬so we wight for them (ambush) or we pick up the eye's and then us the Thermal and go closer if we can but it is not an easy task.

👍👊😎

What's the dingo spotting range difference?

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Not quite sure I understand what you are asking mate ?

Foxdog have no information on pulsar products on their website.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

That's odd, maybe give them a call

All proper and professional and then says the wifi is SHIT! Lol

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

Жыл бұрын

😂 It was 😂

Can this scope be used in day light?

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely but it does become less effective in a hot environment.

I want one, So I've put an ad. on Gumtree for one of my kidney's & my left nut. I've already got a few emails from buyers from overseas so i'll soon have one on order.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

😂 Happy shopping

At a mere $4,800 + tax here in the U.S.A. I would hope it could see buried treasure or , at the very least , only trophy level quarry. 🤣🤣🤣

@dipitydoodaa2397

2 жыл бұрын

That’s actually competitive with ATN’s top thermal model.

@TheBigLeeg

2 жыл бұрын

@@dipitydoodaa2397 Dipity A, my oh my what a wonderful day... oh huh hum, got carried away there to a special place where things were abundant , cheap, and not a care in the world. Like a return to childhood an age of innocence. An age before you realized that thermal vision wasn’t going to be a super power you awaken with. Rather it’s was for sale and at a price that buys a half years mortgage. Or a for gold mining machines. M

@staccatoglock

Жыл бұрын

Agreed….the price is😂

Shame it doesn't have a laser range finder incorporated into it

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

That would be bloody mint 👌

Stopped half way through the video for a browse of prices...😳 hooley fucking Dooley 😅 better stick to the old olight I think haha

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, expensive toy / tool that's for sure. Pretty cool though 😀

@pigg383

3 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK yeah it’s cool as fuck haha and another great video mate 👍🏻 I’ll just dream through your videos for now 😂😂

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

@@pigg383 I was the same for years mate before taking the plunge. It's certainly a big step.

I'm too poor to get one.... 😢😂

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not mentioning that which shall not be mentioned which can be sold to aquire thermal goodness. I've only just stopped getting advertisements after our last discussion on the topic which isn't to be talked about 😔

@AHPOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

@@EDGEoftheOUTBACK 😂😂😂

There is a difference between being a hunter and a shooter I say you’re a shooter when u use thermal scopes to shoot the animal and sadly there’s a lot of trophy animals taken using these scopes not much to be proud off

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

I agree mate. I both hunt and shoot if you'll browse the channel. Both have a place in Australia.

Precio

If you took WiFi and recording out of it would be a lot better

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

You don't have to use those features though. It's nice to have the choice 👌

averaging at about $5000.00.... I'll pass

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

3 жыл бұрын

Not for everyone, I get that 👍

@edwardd9702

2 жыл бұрын

How long do they last/guesstimatesd life span? A lot of technology in a small package.

@EDGEoftheOUTBACK

2 жыл бұрын

I don't actually know. There are certainly people still rocking 5+ yr old gear around the place. But they certainly are not like a glass scope, your correct the tech is advancing too quickly.

i have shot dogs in pea soup .