It's both a linguistic (Greek) and later a religious (Orthodox) difference between the Byzantines and their Western Roman predecessors. The Crusaders of Western Europe eventually sacked Constantinople at one point i.e. they diverged tremendously. The video seems to understate this separation. Great channel and great discussion !

@DukeFBCoverage

10 күн бұрын

Thank you! I am glad that you enjoyed it. I don't think we'll get to the Crusades as that is past the Antiquity time period. But we'll see!

one culture was Latin dominated the other was Greek dominated culturally so I think the distinction is relevant given that the empire did fundamentally change in many ways even if on paper it was business as usual that is my opinion on the matter

@DukeFBCoverage

18 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment! I think it is fine to view them as culturally different (things do change over time) for the reasons you point out. I just get annoyed that we refer to an empire by a term it never used and was made up after the fact. Eastern Roman at least captures the cultural changes you pointed to while also admitting the Roman nature of the people there.

@fot6771

18 күн бұрын

@@DukeFBCoverage from what I hear the feeling of “Roman-ness” lasted in Greece until independence from the ottomans, as the ottomans were the self-described successors to Rome

@Danymok

17 күн бұрын

That makes sense, and I agree that Byzantine is a useful term to some degree, but it also seems pretty artificial. Yes the "Byzantines" were more Greek, but this is not the only time Rome had a cultural shift. For example, we don't have separate names for the Roman Empire when it was pagan vs Christian even though that was a very big cultural shift.

@DukeFBCoverage

17 күн бұрын

@@Danymok I just wish we would call it "Roman" since that's what the people and the empire considered itself. But the reasons why we use Byzantine are fascinating.

Ah, it's basically an exonym.

@anatoliecazacu7535

18 күн бұрын

No. "Germany" is an exonym, but it doesn't suggest that Germany is not german. "Byzantine" is specifically designed to strip the "roman identity" away from the eastern part of the Roman Empire. I would call it a Kopronym.

I prefer the Rump Roman Empire

@DukeFBCoverage

18 күн бұрын

Not a bad assessment.