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So with all the power, tonality, AI functionality, and innovation with this new synplant, to “test it out” you used a *boop* sound. Got it.

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

I tested and thought this is what people need to know

@geyseraudio1710

8 ай бұрын

Boop

@Letsynthesize

8 ай бұрын

@@geyseraudio1710 🤣

@greasybumpkin1661

2 ай бұрын

What sound should be tested?

@georged822

2 ай бұрын

In case your virgin ears cant hear it, he's just pointing out how quickly the sound falls apart, and using a basic boop sound is nice and clean for illustrating his point.

I don't see this as an issue at all. Just find another variation that matches better or adjust the parameters of the one that matches the closest. You are already saving a ton of time. Find a workaround. Sometimes you need a specialized hammer for the job, but sometimes that hammer isn't ideal

@lhaas5363

8 ай бұрын

Ya just sounds like some aspects aren't keyboard mapped in the original. Just turn that off in synplant 🤷

It's probably never going to recreate more complex sounds, such as basses, in any satisfying way. Usually for example a bass one shot is a construct that consists of hundreds of variables happening at the same time in their own intervals and amplitudes. The AI obviously doesn't know that the adjustments that need to be done per every different note have to be different, it can only give you one setting based on what's been inserted into it, but it's not human so it has zero ways of being able to translate a given sound correctly. It's limited by default and obviously overhyped by some folks, not even talking about synplant but about AI in general.

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

Very well written, this is exactly the point of this video! :)

@WillyJunior

9 ай бұрын

I found the plugin generally not as exciting as all the "influencers" made it out to be.

Yes, I also caught myself thinking that it can can just play in the sampler, but it is suitable for generating different versions of percussion

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

No I never thought it’s a sampler, but the preset quality is not better than using the reference sound in a sampler

@Lekan675

9 ай бұрын

I'm actually talking about this. People write that they can now reproduce any sound they like, but in this form it is no better than cutting it into a sampler). + editing in the synthesizer is very specific. But as a pilot launch is suitable, we will observe the development of events)

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

@@Lekan675 yeh it surely will get better but here is the thing: there are so many tools we can use and it’s impossible to have one synth that has all of them, so there will always be sounds that they can’t reproduce. Especially layered sounds

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

Or just think a wavetable movement. How can an AI get what is used as a source oscillator? So for simple things, yeah it can make good results, but for complex stuff… I’m sceptic

yea I wouldn't call Synplant a workstation or daily-driver synth. it's a lot of fun for drums (like you said), for resampling and making fills/ear candy, and maybe event reverse engineering for patching in another synth of some sort. but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets much, much better over time. but who knows..we didn't even have stuff like chatgpt, midjourney, dance diffusion up till a few years ago and the progression in such a short amount of time has been insane to witness. but I still don't think anything will ever reproduce or replace taste/soul/character/etc. these are all just useful tools that can help progress your own skillset. using them as crutches or shortcuts will only shoot yourself in the foot & won't bring the same level of fulfillment in the long run. but to each their own!

@Letsynthesize

8 ай бұрын

I totally agree :)

I found synplant works well for adding additional layers, but may not be best suited for primary sound design or reconstruction.

Great video Dan!!

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

Thank you brooooo

I use a lot of really high quality synths in my productions, and my style borrows a lot from ambient production and sound design. Synplant stuck out like a sore thumb in my mix. The fx sound really rough too. So i thought it was a fun toy, but i need a better sound quality before i could use it for anything. Even phonk.

@Letsynthesize

Ай бұрын

This is my thoughts too exactly!

Did you check the "flt_kf" and "env_kf" parameters?

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

The original synth has no keyfollow set either, it’s not necessary

@brun1698

9 ай бұрын

but did you try changing it?

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

@@brun1698honestly no, it does not sound like a keyfollow issue on filter

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

Okay, just changed both, the sound got even worse as I expected, falls apart as I go even half octave lower or higher as I presented in the video.

Make sure the tuning fork is clicked because that is the whole point of it. It makes sure it does not sound like a sample being pitched up and down. That’s the whole point of this…

@Letsynthesize

8 ай бұрын

Sorry, but it has nothing to do with this "feature/issue". I double checked it and it just makes sure that instrument it generated tuned correctly to the piano keys (in other words it does not fixes the formant issue)

so when will we get a ai plugin that actually does the job of making a fully playable instrument u think?

@straighttalk2069

8 ай бұрын

In about Ten years when the engine has four wavetable oscillators and eight operator FM

here

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

Thank you again!

just feed it a resample of the lowest note you use?...

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

But then the higher one will be so different. The thing is, that there are a million ways of creating a sound and seems like synplant (and probably other vsts in the future) will have a limited amount of tools to remake them that will never sound the same and most importantly BEHAVE the same like the reference.

Synplant epidemy )

They all talk about AI becoming sentient but it will always be a copy of something, or working from an algorythmn based from database (copies) or just simply programmed, its sad that they intend to push to accomplish something that is impossible, such a grift as usual too for money, when in the end you cannot program a character with an organic moral coded soul into a machine, no matter how much they attempt or let on to.... Same for the plugins, some random algorithm at work, no soul or character and never will be... but its now the next best thing and hype eh, sigh... Stay human stay classy...

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

I agree very much!

Synplant keeps the initial transients even in all keys. The sample can't cope here and it sounds strange played too far from the original. Come on, noone expects to put a Mini Moog OSC waveform into Synplant 2 and come out with an exact copy of a Mini Moog. 😅

@Letsynthesize

7 ай бұрын

This is not the answer! Also what’s the point of sample to preset feature if you can’t use the preset as an instrument?

Totaly agree. I found the same conclusion after many hours of test, plus, syntplant can t recreate complexe patch like wavetable as we know. But it s cool for kick and some one shot. On other side, i think a bigger engine ( online one ) with many engine (add/sub/gran..) and more than 2 osc 😅 will be able to do better than this standalone embeded AI engine, and this in a near futur. The hype was so strong... Magnus did a great job and open the way. Wait and see (and listen)

I can't believe there is no way to adjust the pitch tracking to fix this.

@Letsynthesize

8 ай бұрын

Honestly I have no idea why it does this but not because of keytracking

Are you a comedian? ;-)

Who's playing more than one note anyways?

@Letsynthesize

4 ай бұрын

I don't :D

Just turn down the Atonality slider

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

Nope, that does make a difference at all!

ai gonna ruin all music production in future..=\

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

No, if don't let it! Just don't click on "generate sound" or "generate music"! :)

@ArtyBob

9 ай бұрын

@@Letsynthesize this is looks like step to one click remake every preset and then it will be remake every synth melody with this..

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

@@ArtyBob it’s not that simple as you saw in the video

@Letsynthesize

9 ай бұрын

I tested it with lots of basses and it nails the reference hit but it’s useless on different notes really.

@ArtyBob

9 ай бұрын

@@Letsynthesize just for now)