The X-29's Journey: From Concept to Reality

Let's take a look at one of the most unusual - and unstable designs in aviation history: the X-29!
The Grumman X-29 was an experimental aircraft that intensely tested a combination of the use of canards, forward swept wings, fly by wire, composite materials and other cutting edge aircraft technologies. Featuring a highly aerodynamically unstable design which first flew in 1984, the last X29 flight was conducted in 1992 and the program contributed greatly to aviation research. Today we will look at the development of the X29 along with some of the key challenges and milestones of the program during its operational testing.
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Forward swept wings (FSW) were tested in the 1930s by NACA, and the X-29 flew at Edwards Air Force Base. The F16 was a competitor and the F16XL was developed around the same time. The first jet FSW aircraft was the JU 287 1944

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  • @PilotPhotog
    @PilotPhotog2 жыл бұрын

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  • @benwelch4076
    @benwelch40763 жыл бұрын

    Pictures do not do this plane justice, it is so beautiful in person. I was taken a back by how small it seemed. Another great video.

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you and I am looking forward to seeing it at the National museum of the Air Force!

  • @benwelch4076

    @benwelch4076

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PilotPhotog I will be there myself in late august, it will be my second time, I want to see the XB70 again.

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@benwelch4076 I plan on making an XB70 video, what an amazing aircraft, enjoy your visit!

  • @pottierkurt1702
    @pottierkurt17023 жыл бұрын

    Don't worry Sam, just bolt the wings on backwards. If anyone notices we'll just say we ment to do it like that.

  • @Unix2816
    @Unix28163 жыл бұрын

    "He's Just Built Differently" Said a NASA Engineer

  • @aceslayer2237

    @aceslayer2237

    3 жыл бұрын

    maybe it was dark skies?

  • @Unix2816

    @Unix2816

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aceslayer2237 maybe

  • @aceslayer2237

    @aceslayer2237

    3 жыл бұрын

    yea it was, he beat em to it lol but this is a great video

  • @aceslayer2237

    @aceslayer2237

    3 жыл бұрын

    love flying this plane in the Ace Combat series

  • @wisam9928

    @wisam9928

    3 жыл бұрын

    News System

  • @viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476
    @viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_4763 жыл бұрын

    These videos are some of the best content on aviation on KZread keep up the good work

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, will do!

  • @tlshortyshorty5810
    @tlshortyshorty58103 жыл бұрын

    I already loved the F-5 and F-20, seeing it in such a unique configuration is amazing. Wish it got more attention in video games as much as the Su-47.

  • @karios9635
    @karios96353 жыл бұрын

    Prototypes are always so interesting

  • @Joshua_N-A

    @Joshua_N-A

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are art itself.

  • @appa609
    @appa6093 жыл бұрын

    The "F-29" Should be carrying as little weight on the wings as possible. Tip loading makes divergence easier

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    A fair point I just had some fun putting 4 AIM-120s under the wings. Thanks for commenting!

  • @dsdy1205

    @dsdy1205

    3 жыл бұрын

    Every postwar jet: Haha wingtip tanks go brrrrr

  • @-nixwite-
    @-nixwite-3 жыл бұрын

    X-29 and the Su-47, the weirdest forward swept aircraft I’ve ever seen Looks cool tho

  • @christianletzerich6523
    @christianletzerich65233 жыл бұрын

    Yay this is one of my favorites

  • @usernameinvalidforu
    @usernameinvalidforu3 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent video.

  • @isaacramirez3634
    @isaacramirez36343 жыл бұрын

    The only game I know that this is in is Ace Combat 5. Its one of my top 5 favorite planes in game

  • @michaelkeller5008

    @michaelkeller5008

    3 жыл бұрын

    it was also in MS Flightsimulator 4.0, when playing around with the settings of the F-20

  • @bluecaptainIT

    @bluecaptainIT

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also Ace Combat Zero and Ace Combat 2!

  • @trolleriffic

    @trolleriffic

    2 жыл бұрын

    It had an entire game named after it - F-29 Retaliator which I had for the Amiga. That also featured the F-22 and a bunch of state of the art weapons like the ASALM (which never made it past the prototype stage) and was a brilliantly fun game for its time. Graphics were really good for its day but look terrible 33 years later.

  • @andreasleonardo6793
    @andreasleonardo67933 жыл бұрын

    Nice video about X-29 fighting jet with unique and amazing designs also clearly explaining of its superiority characters and abilities thanks for sharing...yes its best aircraft

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Andreas!

  • @andreasleonardo6793

    @andreasleonardo6793

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PilotPhotog welcome friend with respect and pleasure

  • @lorenslin1968
    @lorenslin19683 жыл бұрын

    Are there any data of how maneuverable the X29 had over the conventional design?

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not that I could easily find but there likely is, thanks for commenting and if I do come across some tangible data I will make an update video.

  • @juanarce6900
    @juanarce69003 жыл бұрын

    Without a shadow of a doubt, it is the most recognizable of the x planes. It's intriguing why it never got to combat.

  • @moisesdosramos7529
    @moisesdosramos75293 жыл бұрын

    Love your vids..- instant follower here.

  • @ElonMuckX
    @ElonMuckX2 жыл бұрын

    There are rumors/siting at Groom & Tonopah of the Switchblade. Supposedly it’s wings are variable in 3 ways. One position is forward swept, for super maneuvers, one for loitering, and a forward sweep into the fuselage for Mach runs. Think of it as a F-111 replacement, but can dogfight too.

  • @CubanCubeFan
    @CubanCubeFan3 жыл бұрын

    as we would say in Miami, coolisimo

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    Representing the 305 😎

  • @susanartigas7498

    @susanartigas7498

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes indeed, Coolisimo!!

  • @amcds2867
    @amcds28673 жыл бұрын

    Another great video! Great graphics as well! Did you come up with the name Retaliator for a potential production model?

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! The F-29 Retaliator was a throwback to a game I used to play: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F29_Retaliator

  • @amcds2867

    @amcds2867

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PilotPhotog Just shows how much i know about games. Anyway, thanks for the reply.

  • @2bidfilmsguy
    @2bidfilmsguy3 жыл бұрын

    Finally a plane with one of my core attributes Extreme instability

  • @firstnamelastname3579
    @firstnamelastname35792 жыл бұрын

    Back in the late 1980's, I had a flight simulator for my PCXT clone computer (It ran at 4.77 MHZ, and/or 8MHZ in TURBO MODE!? (Impressive, huh? No💩!)) And someone gave me a copy of CHUCK YEAGERS ADVANCED FLIGHT TRAINER, which included military aircraft from WW1 to WW2 to the Korean War, the Vietnam war, Desert Storm, and experimental/spy planes. During one flight in the SR-71 I got that plane to fly a little bit faster than what the "official" speed record for the SR-71 was! Anyways, the A.F.T also included the X-29 which was an absolute blast to fly, and it quickly became my favorite plane to fly! It also had the X15 Flying Rocket, in which I was able too fly so high that the "sky" was BLACK, with stars being the only light outside of the plane!

  • @rodrigoortegamafud8810
    @rodrigoortegamafud88103 жыл бұрын

    VisionAire Vantage was another fwd-swept wing that flew successfully. Unfortunately, never went into production.

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    Did not know that, thanks for commenting!

  • @michaelkeller5008
    @michaelkeller50083 жыл бұрын

    always loved the looks of the X-29. in flightsimulator 4.0, there was an option to "create" ones own F-20. playing with the configuration and moving the center of gravity to the rear, the design switched to the one of the X29, actually giving the "model" a higher fidelity.. loved to "fly around" with that. and missed it in FS5 and up (until more realistic models were created for FS98 and 2000)

  • @concordegaming5037
    @concordegaming50376 ай бұрын

    Ok, Retaliator is a really great name for the F-29, has a great ring to it.

  • @christianbushey6298
    @christianbushey62982 ай бұрын

    I love the rendered model of production version. However fighters are more tactical bomber now. More likely it wouldve carried GBU-10 and lazer designator with sidewinder and sparrows

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    2 ай бұрын

    Fair points and I may revisit this aircraft in an upcoming video - thanks for commenting!

  • @ovk-ih1zp
    @ovk-ih1zp3 жыл бұрын

    The X-29 as a combat platform was killed by the success of Lockheed's skunk works development of 'Stealth Technologies'. The size & shape of the canards necessary to maintain control of the airframe kills any chance of passive radar evasion, leaving only active radar jamming as a means of self defense.

  • @Joshua_N-A

    @Joshua_N-A

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't a built-in jammer eat up precious spaces in the aircraft and add extra weight? The Prowlers and Growlers use their own hardpoints to carry the jammers.

  • @ovk-ih1zp

    @ovk-ih1zp

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Joshua_N-A Precisely. Passive stealth is what is the hot thing right now in the technology race. The X-29 is/was an absolute beast of a test bed platform, but the information developed has limited application to the "New" paradigm of current designs. When passive stealth gets cracked & reduced in effectiveness the work done by the X-29 will probably greatly increase in relevance, or all that data could be surpassed by something that none of us "Plebs" have seen yet.

  • @dawnsparrow4477
    @dawnsparrow44772 жыл бұрын

    Excellent aviation video about F-29 fighter 👏 👌...yes its excellent designer's

  • @somehecucunt3194
    @somehecucunt31943 жыл бұрын

    If it was to be put into production I wonder what the livery or camo would be

  • @appscenter7270
    @appscenter72703 жыл бұрын

    f-5/f-20 is the most underrated a/c ever!

  • @Joshua_N-A

    @Joshua_N-A

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its lineage continued in the Super Hornet.

  • @blakena4907
    @blakena49073 жыл бұрын

    All I see here is a really nice computer with wings. Such a beautiful aircraft.

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed! A flying computer with wings. Thanks for commenting!

  • @fallencrow6718
    @fallencrow67183 жыл бұрын

    So did Grumman pull a paper clip on Belkan engineers?

  • @miketeeveedub5779
    @miketeeveedub57793 жыл бұрын

    Plane looks fast going forward...or in reverse! 😁

  • @nauuwgtx
    @nauuwgtx3 жыл бұрын

    F-16 engineers: *flipped wings goes brrrr*

  • @The_Seal77
    @The_Seal772 жыл бұрын

    No1 is the SR 71 and number 2 the X 29 and also love the SU 47. These are just beautiful planes, there is just something about the fwd swept wing, it just so beautiful.

  • @sanshou2
    @sanshou23 жыл бұрын

    Scrapped because whoever was in charge valued stealth over super maneuverability.

  • @brandonzadel3465
    @brandonzadel34652 жыл бұрын

    Amazing design and great X-plane. Always loved seeing this in books as a kid, but I agree that it was too much of a risk to make a production run of it. If the stresses on the surfaces were as serious as they said, there's no telling what might happen if those surfaces or the airframe itself took any damage.

  • @pdonettes
    @pdonettes Жыл бұрын

    I can’t imagine of they made one with thrust vectoring that could handle the stress

  • @FloridaManMatty
    @FloridaManMatty3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you SO much much this video! I have had an unhealthy fixation on the X-29 since I first saw one on static display at an air show in the early 1990’s. It looked like it was going fast, even when it was just sitting there. The only other airplane that has left that same impression on me is the YF-23 that’s parked at Wright Patterson. Add another superb video to your playlist. You knocked it out of the park with this one!!!

  • @torpedo8384
    @torpedo83842 жыл бұрын

    Poor Northrop. Great planes. Stuck on the sidelines. There was an Area 88 model in the 1/144 scale variant of the X-29 reimagined with 4 Sparrows and Shin Kazama’s fiery unicorn tail art. And as mentioned above by another viewer, the GI Joe and Python Patrol versions of the X-30 Conquest.

  • @mountedpatrolman
    @mountedpatrolman Жыл бұрын

    Retaliator? Everyone knows the combat version was called the Conquest!

  • @wisam9928
    @wisam99283 жыл бұрын

    Yes top in Mon direct

  • @sevex9
    @sevex92 жыл бұрын

    I think it might be neat to see this kind of configuration on a drone. More compact body should make the torsion on the stress of the wings would be less of a problem. Also the supermaneuvrability can be better utilized by a drone. We could have it so that our stealth aircraft like the f-22 or f-35 may not be able to outmaneuver in a dogfight against newer aircraft that have been able to defeat their stealth advantage, but have them accompanied by ridiculously maneuverable drones with all sorts of advantages. I suppose the Valkyrie drone is that drone but it doesn't have canards, forward swept wings, thrust vectoring, or aft strakes. Probably doesn't need all that but still, would be neat to see American aircraft with these technologies.

  • @wisam9928
    @wisam99283 жыл бұрын

    12:31مقاتلة 004/080

  • @user-kr7mh1nx7j
    @user-kr7mh1nx7j Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if it would be popular if we could see it at an air show

  • @dstavs
    @dstavs3 жыл бұрын

    GI Joe X-30. If you know, you know.

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    I really wanted to slide an X-30 reference in there somewhere. Thanks for this comment!

  • @Noisy_Cricket
    @Noisy_Cricket2 жыл бұрын

    Someone should model this plane in DCS so we can get an idea of what it would have been like as a fighter.

  • @JTPQuinn
    @JTPQuinn3 жыл бұрын

    😍

  • @texasbeast239
    @texasbeast2399 ай бұрын

    4:55 The HIMAT did NOT use a FSW. As can be seen in the video, its main wings and canards were conventionally, rear swept delta wings. 🙃 9:36 My understanding is that the two X-29s did more like 400 total flights before retirement. I think airframe 1 did about 220 general aviation missions; then airframe 2 did 120 focusing on military maneuvers, then 60 more with smoke vortex studies. Those composite wings really took a beating! 10:44 While competing for the DARPA 1977 FSW project, one of Grumman's artists painted a 1979 pic of a couple of X-29 type planes as fighters. They were black or dark gray on top, and light gray below, with US military roundels. And the nose was definitely longer, ala an F-5 or F-20, just like your Retaliator concept. But there were no visible weapons stores. Then when the USAF requested proposals for its Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF) program in 1981, Grumman suggested an ATF version of the X-29 with dual 2D vectored thrust nozzles for even wilder maneuverability. My understanding is that this derivative design was known as ATF Concept #9. But as you said, stealth eventually became a major criterion for the ATF, and the Grumman FSW design lost out. FSWs have fallen out of favor, but vectored thrust has stuck around.

  • @oxcart4172
    @oxcart41723 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure that that is showing the Bugatti replica that somebody built a few years ago but unfortunately it crashed on its 2nd flight and the pilot was killed

  • @tommullaney8714
    @tommullaney87142 жыл бұрын

    Ridiculous departure from norm. Grumman made my first house purchase available back in 86 😆

  • @mrscary3105
    @mrscary31053 жыл бұрын

    Love this plane. (I call it the F-5WTF) :)

  • @tthams73
    @tthams732 жыл бұрын

    The forward swept wings really help while maneuvering in reverse. 🤣🤣

  • @djstatyk1540
    @djstatyk15402 жыл бұрын

    Apparently it makes an assload of corrections a second. If the computer failed, that's it. It's falling out the sky.

  • @corysamoila
    @corysamoila3 жыл бұрын

    Thats the Arrow

  • @wisam9928
    @wisam99283 жыл бұрын

    نعم آلاف 16

  • @Kenny_Blender
    @Kenny_Blender2 жыл бұрын

    I've flew X29 in AceCombat X

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    Was the pilot unstable too?

  • @avanstrash6149
    @avanstrash61492 жыл бұрын

    at least in fiction we have YF-19

  • @djstatyk1540
    @djstatyk15402 жыл бұрын

    This was even in Ace combat 2.

  • @user-ip8df4nf8g
    @user-ip8df4nf8g2 жыл бұрын

    سلام من به تازگی ویدیوهاتون رو میبینم از شما سپاسگزارم ♥️🇮🇷

  • @robfields6655
    @robfields66552 жыл бұрын

    I made a model rocket out of this once. I launched it once and lost it.

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to hear that, did it fly well before you lost it?

  • @robfields6655

    @robfields6655

    2 жыл бұрын

    No lol

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robfields6655 ah too bad, sorry to hear that

  • @robfields6655

    @robfields6655

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was still fun. Great memory.

  • @VectorGhost
    @VectorGhost3 жыл бұрын

    And yet the Airforce never freakin made a fighter with swept wings...i think the F-29 would have been bigger and i think the navy might have taken interest.

  • @MaverickM1
    @MaverickM12 жыл бұрын

    Sexy as fuck. F-14, Sr71, f-104 and X-29 are far the sexiest planes of the usa in my opinion. And now? Raptors, hornets and the new xf35s are everywhere. This is somehow like in the music industry, always the older is the better.. :)

  • @dsdy1205
    @dsdy12053 жыл бұрын

    Imagine the unholy marriage of this plane and the X-53 AAW (hint hint)

  • @sergiodesouzajunior3962
    @sergiodesouzajunior39629 ай бұрын

    Compro 20.000 unidades para a força aéria brasileira

  • @DANI-of3jm
    @DANI-of3jm3 жыл бұрын

    LOVE FROM PAKISTAN MAKE SOME DETAILED VIDEO ON F 15 EX EAGLE THANKS

  • @bronsondixon4747
    @bronsondixon4747 Жыл бұрын

    Pro tip: stop doing the measurements of length, height and weight at start of videos. It’s too repetitive and it’s just too basic of info to waste that much time on at the start of the video where you want to grab viewer attention. Otherwise, great content I really enjoy the channel.

  • @ronaldtartaglia4459
    @ronaldtartaglia44595 ай бұрын

    "Lets take a look"❤

  • @mohsen3415
    @mohsen34152 жыл бұрын

    Koppya av su47 Russia...

  • @I_am_Diogenes
    @I_am_Diogenes3 жыл бұрын

    "MOST EVER" should have known from the name . Gotta CALL BS on this one . This plane is fly by wire , the F-117 could not fly at all without a computer to manage the imbalances I.E. could NOT be flown by a human , pilot must be a computer .

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    35% unstable is still the highest for any fighter aircraft - thanks for commenting!

  • @I_am_Diogenes

    @I_am_Diogenes

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PilotPhotog Figured to see a response somewhere using the fighter/bomber part instead of jet part and not comment on the flyable in 1900 as opposed to only flyable after the real pilot is charged up . To me it seems addressing that point would be required to reach the MOST in HISTORY part . To be honest , the most unstable fighter in history never got off the drawing board , what you mean is ... to actually fly ? It is the "in history" part I am objecting to , not this video so much since it appears solid information-wise and I DO like that aircraft .

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@I_am_Diogenes thanks for the follow up response, what I mean is for a single type, as mentioned in the video the F-18 has an instability factor of 5% and most 4th gen fighters are somewhere in the range, by contrast the X-29 had an instability factor of 35% so 7 times greater. No other fighter has approached this value so the X-29 is king in this area.

  • @SanjaySingh-oh7hv

    @SanjaySingh-oh7hv

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PilotPhotog What does instability factor mean? How does the F-18 get 5% instability? And what would be the F-16 or F-15 instability factor? I looked on the net for some kind of definition and didn't find anything good. I wonder what the Su-57 instability would be. Or even the X-36 with it's thrust vectoring and canards.

  • @UltraMagaFan
    @UltraMagaFan3 жыл бұрын

    This sounds dumb but it looks ugly af but the design is beautiful.

  • @daviecrocket9160
    @daviecrocket91603 жыл бұрын

    17seconds and my comment deleted.

  • @apborkharkongor225
    @apborkharkongor2253 жыл бұрын

    👎👎👎

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment and the feedback!

  • @fraserhenderson7839
    @fraserhenderson78393 жыл бұрын

    Who called this testbed a fighter? How many " fights" was it in? It was never, ever anything but an experiment tool. Get a better grip on nomenclature to avoid clickbait comments.

  • @PilotPhotog

    @PilotPhotog

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for commenting, both the US Air Force and NASA wanted to study the FSW for fighter aircraft, which is why the X-29 was made. I research these topics extensively, here is one of my sources, from NASA: www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/news/FactSheets/FS-008-DFRC.html The X-29 was made specifically to be a single seat fighter for this kind of testing. Enjoy!

  • @somehecucunt3194

    @somehecucunt3194

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bruh relax

  • @jayshmoney795
    @jayshmoney7952 жыл бұрын

    I think forward swept wings is a poor design and would be a huge waste of money