it probably wasn't actually the worst tournament in valorant history haha it just makes for a good title well done to Bleed! and I appreciate all the support on the channel from india

@fakepotato4875

Жыл бұрын

Now im curious to see other bad tournaments. the only other one i can think of is the NA challengers LAN (im pretty sure it was challengers. might of been another tournament but im certain that it was part of VCT)that had many problems and pretty big ones such as the OCE teams that were supposed to play in got left in the dark and weren't able to compete

@gauravsontakke1460

Жыл бұрын

Clickbate 😂😂

@sheesh5127

Жыл бұрын

Have you Heard about GXR 😆

@kingdominick273

Жыл бұрын

u mean clickbait?

@rizzfarmer11

Жыл бұрын

@@fakepotato4875 it was 2021 lcq I think that was on LAN

the only successful valorant tournament organizer in india was nodwin gaming others were either delayed by minimum 2 hours(every single day) or filled with dramas like ping issue casting issue

@ds_clown5296

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@layoutgameryt9494

Жыл бұрын

But they was biased

@njishere9875

Жыл бұрын

@@layoutgameryt9494 how?

@VicariousxD

Жыл бұрын

I would say both nodwin(because of past experience ) and TEC are good.

@boss_niko

Жыл бұрын

Esports should be banned from india. Everyone is either hacker or stupid casters.

Thank you for covering this for our region - it's undeniably the biggest gift the community could have asked for, cause we have not had a single person collate all of this and make an informative account of all the things that have happened, which the people just let em slide. For someone to put effort into making this video and put it out there just means a lot to the Indian Valorant Community. Thank you, looking forward to more videos! :)

@CommendYT

Жыл бұрын

thank you for watching! I didn't see any other videos covering it, so thought it was important to do so 🙏

@marooond

Жыл бұрын

@@CommendYT !

@aniketjoshi619

Жыл бұрын

Perfect evaluation

That was a good watch!

The ammount of toxicity you get to see after VLT lost against Bleed was just wow. come to watchparty of Eupho, VLT's Team Manager. as a moderator it was so hard to keep the chat clean and friendly. on the record we were giving 15+ timeouts/bans every minute. this community will never get better on the basis of "support" seen this enough. lost all hopes. all these kids wanna see is "wins". and will come to roast after a single whiff. not even roast. even abuses.

@harshwardhan7461

Жыл бұрын

average indian esports enthusiast

@nielsbohrsciencewale9771

Жыл бұрын

Bro calls clear defeat as whiff! That is what whole of vlt does never at once accepted the other team is better one

@suraj_ag

Жыл бұрын

you misunderstood me. the last paragraph have no relation to the tournament. I am there talking in general.

@nielsbohrsciencewale9771

Жыл бұрын

@@suraj_ag that is fine then i understand it is hard job for mods

@marz6526

Жыл бұрын

Ya just like when Global eSports won against VLT and then lost against another foreign team then every vlt fan kids were spamming GE HAVE MADE ALL STRATEGIES FOR VLT ONLY THEY ARE NOTHING AGAINST FOREIGN TEAMS . ONLY VLT CAN WIN AGAINST FOREIGN TEAMS. And then i never saw a single timeout to them 😂. Fact is you guys just want acclamations . Even a single comment/word against VLT you give them timeouts/bans and now crying here that viewers are kids 😂. After all you have to accept the fact that 90% viewers in India are kids . 20+ don't have so much time to spend on seeing a game stream. That's the reason why even small tournaments in India gets 10k+ views live and even big tournaments like vct in foreign barely gets that much view without counting Indian viewers

Never knew there was a huge fan base behind Indian Valorant till today. For a 1 man channel, ur pushing out official Valorant news level content. Love it 👍

glad you made this video and brought the issues to the light. All of this does nothing but help the scene grow and become even better in future.

I’ve been watching since 2k subs and how you played around the yt algorithm is cool to watch

As someone who's casted for over 5 years, we do often talk about the teams we just casted, and talking trash is not rare. Checking to make sure your muted is a major part of caster to production communication.

Thank You for this video. This speaks in detail about the places Indian Esports has to work on to be as good as on the global stage. As a sports management personal, it was very helpful. Feels bad when your country faces such issues but again you guys highlighting them, we shall learn and try our best to fix them. Thank You!

Skyesports and TEC did an amazing job too. People out here comparing online events (Nodwin) vs a LAN event. TBH no organizers dared to organize a PC LAN event post COVID due to the obvious complexity and the cost involved. These organizers dared to do that and were the first to do it in India in the valo scene. Of course not without faults and delays because of the obvious complexities, but if you watched any of the caster or the players streams they were greatly appreciative about how well they were treated, no less than a true athlete/celebrity. People aren't realizing that this paves way for other organizers to conduct such events and also learn from what went wrong the previous time. Support such initiatives and provide constructive criticism for them to grow instead of being so toxic making anyone lose motivation to even try. I'm sure if both of these orgs conduct another LAN event it'd be much better with the experience that they'd have gained.

@TheHeadmaster15

Жыл бұрын

W comment. People are quick to jump the hate bandwagon. The stream delay obviously is a big issue, but other than that, I'm sure the players wouldn't have any complaints. Having been to the LAN events by both Skyesports and TEC, I was pretty impressed with their effort given it's their first LAN production.

Thanks for these videos man❤️

@kuratchiminisuta

Жыл бұрын

Snoofieeeeeee siuuuuuuuu

Appreciate ur efforts on making this video

Great video man, cool to learn all this as someone from NA that hasn't looked at the Indian scene

@madnessfreak02

Жыл бұрын

Actually he's from Europe

Love this vids keep up the great work man

It's a good thing you showed Galaxy Racer tournament although I would've liked it if you discussed it a bit cause oh boy that tournament was a big disaster.

@ds_clown5296

Жыл бұрын

The arena itself was like a basement only the stage was designed professional lol

@aj-xh6qu

Жыл бұрын

@@ds_clown5296 ngl the stage design looked tacky af. If you watch it again you'll hear the stomps. It feels like a makeshift stage built by cheap plywood. That was so disappointing.

nicely created video mate keep it going

man full support! nicely presented the issue :)

Thank you making a video on the indian scene. Though I hope you keep the scene accountable which is great. Thank you.

yooo im from india and used to play valorant when it was first launched and had no idea that valorant leagues in india would be an actual thing. loved to hear about it even though it was a mess. also mumbai is spelled as “mumba-E” :)))

your words were all about truth bro ..thanx for making this vid

Truee!! This video not shamefull but the truth behind todays Esports Scene in India I hope this to change and make India a Gaming Powerhouse 🇮🇳

Keep up the good work my dear brother ❤

So mature of those players to actually not blame the caster for everything.

nice video bud! keep it up!

yo you should take a look at the mess that happened during ignition series at fortress Melbourne smaller tournament but absolutely scuffed

W. I was so mad seeing bleed getting all the hate becuz of accusing boom of exploiting a bug. Does this mean that using bugs in tournaments is allowed and supported now lol?

@glennofr

Жыл бұрын

Its because bleed using that same bugs when they meet in group stage and bleed didnt acknowledge it

@aburn9891

Жыл бұрын

@@glennofr It isn't BLEED's job to officiate rules that are stated explicitly in a rulebook, they won both maps so there was no need to. Regarding the rollback from 7-1, at the end of the day, that map should've been forfeited but BOOM still got to play losing only 2 rounds and lost fair amd square. The TO's should've recognised this bug instantly and gave a warning to BOOM since the group stage already.

@sanizzu7364

Жыл бұрын

@@aburn9891 from what i heard there is no rulebook that penta esport give for the tournament (cmiiw), so I think that's why that bug being used by many team in the group stage, and then bleed just report it when they're losing and spot the bug on observer cam.

Damn this tourney was a hell of ride !

Great video commend as always

Does anyone else think that valorant should do a league system like to ones you see in football (soccer) and depending on where you place will send you to different tournaments like if 1st 2nd 3rd went to champions and 4th and 5th went to masters and 6th 7th went to challengers. Any thoughts?

@ReK1_6

Жыл бұрын

Not A good idea ngl

@huhnervogel9843

Жыл бұрын

I think thats what they want to achieve with Franchising. Lets see

@dfniversee

Жыл бұрын

it will be a long season, the production cost will be very high

@gddre

Жыл бұрын

@@dfniversee It would get ton of money from ads and would probably bring in more sponsors. furthermore riot game make bare cash of vp anyway

thats me "LMAO thats so rude" HAHAHA

@nielsbohrsciencewale9771

Жыл бұрын

Asking again 😠 when does skyesg play ?

im more shocking theres no thunder sfx and multiple crashing zoom in this drama

Thank you so much for highlighting this but pretty sure u knw this wasn't the worst tournament in Valo history. While I appreciate u bring these issues to light I say let's not push the title for clickbaith and fun🙌🏻

the first one was too funny lol they actually tied up the caster

Gaming in India is super less man, its just evolving. People didn't even know they could make money from playing games just a while ago in India. Its a rough start to the our region but yeah it will turn out fine just like everywhere else.

W commend upload, are you excited for ascension league?

@commendYT what do you think about tournaments by skyesports?

SkyeSG congrats u are famous now .

I agree with what you said commend. I used to be a competitive player as well and well things turned out much worse for me but past side what you shared is true and India as a esports area is pretty shit compared to other countries I know this comment is gonna get down vote to hell but truth is truth and India esports scene is shit because 1. People are selected biased of there connections in the scene rather than skill. 2. There is a lot of discrimination with people. And many more that I rather not say. I used to have a friend that was a manager for a esports org and he used to say the working conditions for him were shit and considering my personal experience its true. I’m sorry to say but if this is how esports will go in India it will never be a good and healthy work environment

@yesican3052

Жыл бұрын

Never is not a good term, it will be getting better as fans thrash frauds sitting high up and performing bad

@kuratchiminisuta

Жыл бұрын

I quite agree with some of the statements. We'll see how it turns out though.

Nah, its clearly the major fault was on the caster. On air or not, he was purposely being rude to the players. It's not even a matter of whether it is live or not, that attitude in of itself is already a red flag. It doesn't make it any better if he was keeping those words a secret. The Penta's decision was just.

It’s interesting that even someone who doesn’t follow Indian scene as closely as Indian themselves also found same issue. Now someday if you just want to have fun, try looking into PUBG/BGMI issues in Indian gaming community, you will be able to write whole thesis and get PhD out of it 😂

One of the main reasons for this Is simply money because the total amount e sport's make and sponsorship they receive is very low compared with others sport's like cricket football ..etc

Thnx for covering the South Asian scene really appreciate it.

I am sure that the Pani Puri walas are happy with how they are perceived by the entire world

@vedic7798

Жыл бұрын

1 plate Idli lagao anna Butter marke

Not surprised at all.

good researching

Just sad.

india got bad reputation for valorant tour in this year, its seems hard for master mumbai to realization

About the fans betraying the team thing, it happens with every sports team in india( sports and esports) they expect great performances and dont trust the process at all Hence if a team loses 3 to 4 matches in a row for whatever reason, fans go against them and brutally troll them This shit needs to stop asap

Is that hard to host a mid/decent enough tournaments? Like almost indian hosted tournament is just.... Wow

Considering thr drama it was the best tournament 😂

U look good in last pic 🤣😇 As a indian valorant we expect good results but in india they are fight among each other more than other region ...there is no brotherhood here sad facts ✌ Brotherhood ... It's sucks ....

Indian Valorant pro scene is pretty much trash from the beginning ngl same matches same winners same toxic fans nothing new to learn get placed last at intl events.

My brother, there is a clear difference between personal views/ criticism and spreading toxicity.

Well, there you go. The sole reason why i myself stopped watching my own country's tournaments, not that i dont want to, but its just too bad; in terms of Production, not the players.

can you also make video about Valorant India Invitational ?. i think that the worse tournament ever. the first day is delayed for 6 hours and because off that the schedule is fucked up. take example Paper Rex vs Bleed eSports who supposed to be a closing match in day 1 is playing at 3 am. not only that, the stage is really bad, the players must wear 2 headset (one for noise cancelling and one for mic), and imagine being the casters who must buy some time for 6 hours. the only good thing about this tournament is the prize pool

@iqlalfd

Жыл бұрын

Another great achievement by india

@walangaccount8984

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah that funny time players wear 2 headsets lmao.

@MetaDude

Жыл бұрын

@@walangaccount8984 idk how much it messes with esports guys but wearing earphones for audio and headphones over earphones for mic isnt that bad

Even when Bleed were in the right, the twitter back and forth was so stupid and uncalled for. Super unprofessional from both sides. Literally seemed like 2 kids trash talking to each other

Good video Commend...

Actually, the ping and sever drama has been a thing between Indian teams and SEA teams for many tournaments now. But mostly it's the SEA team who was forced to play in Mumbai server

@head2toes906

Жыл бұрын

*and still won btw

@justtryingtolearndirection753

Жыл бұрын

@@head2toes906 lol you must be sleeping 😴

@yamaNGap

Жыл бұрын

SEA teams always decline invitations if the online tournament isn't going to be on SG servers, which isn't really a problem. The problem is from EO who keep trying to invite SEA teams when they can only make online tournaments.

@falcon69428

Жыл бұрын

what are you waffling about go look at every other including this one indian players never play on their own server .Last time a tournament was played on our server and won your players that we are having ping issues and shit .

@trollmaintopg704

Жыл бұрын

"But mostly it was the SEA team forced to play on Mumbai" . Are you DUMB? or Blind? When was the last time any SG/SEA teams played on Mumbai? Do you even follow valorant apac? Last time ur Indo team BOOM got fked by washed GEs and before that noxxy aka natslorant was crying and Alter Ego were crying because of Ping diff. It's either you are the most dumbest person I have seen in a while or you are just Baiting people. This comment got 20 likes? Where's the FACT CHECK? or is this to comfort SEA fans?

I have always noticed that Indian Valorant servers are hated because of toxic community. But in my opinion, there are good players like me who treat other players nicely. I don't really know the main reason for this toxicity Indian players have. And for this drama. I guess we should give India more time to improve and shall see how things will work. Hopefully players competing in Indian tournaments receive a great experience and our Valorant community grows. Thanks for making this informative video and letting us know the situation.

@devd3

Жыл бұрын

Never,no matter how much time or effort is given, Indian servers will never be good,the amount of toxicity makes you feel like not playing games anymore.

@tox1nval

Жыл бұрын

@@devd3 agreed i guess..... sometimes me my self rage cuz of toxic retards lol

@ravnd.1875

Жыл бұрын

@@devd3 man most servers are toxic. If you play other servers you can understand that.

@kuratchiminisuta

Жыл бұрын

@@ravnd.1875 did, a lot less toxic than us. Also a lot better players.

@ravnd.1875

Жыл бұрын

@@kuratchiminisuta may be better players yes. But toxicity is the same brother. Try playng EU servers man it's so fkng toxic

Esports in India will always be a joke, and let's face it. No company is going to take Esports seriously in India.

it has to be said...

Great

@kuratchiminisuta

Жыл бұрын

Samosa bhay

indian gaming industry is growing but there will be problems which have to be faced...hope we will counter it

Where is nodwin man? they were the first and the best in business.

@dhawaldeshmukh5617

Жыл бұрын

they are hosting one of the best event in 2023

@debasishkalita6554

Жыл бұрын

Just wait for Vct challengers South asia

wait, penta esports? wasnt they also caught in r6 drama too?

Crip’s probably learnt that from Bomman casting in csgo 😂😂😂

Good job!

justice for VLT

2:15 his opinion isn't the issue. The issue is that he's on the job and should be profesional on the job. It's not production's fault he said something that obviously would put his career at risk. Oversights on production is nothing new and nothing malicious. Especially when it's a tournament set in a place like India where there might be less chances that the production team is used to hosting events of the sort and where budget might be more limited. He was the one willfully doing something on his job that he shouldn't do. Blaming production for an oversight is a weird way of seeing things.

@badreddinekasmi8919

Жыл бұрын

This doesn't mean that he should be crucified either. However if we are to blame someone for what happened, not blaming the person wilfully doing something and throwing blame at people who didn't wilfully do anything malicious is just plain weird

Can we have a small talk about the events and vtournaments (+lan events) held in a small south Indian state like Kerala. I think this Indian gaming community doesnt even take a look at the efforts put up by the streamers, gamers and Esports orgs from parts of South India and they are given little to no attention. The strive to do their best and yet they arent even given a look at. They do with what they have, but will do it with their 100% will and effort.

Idk man, i dont wanna see a cross region tournament anymore, lot of bullshit over offseason series

We r doomed 😣 i don't see any chance of getting a good future in gaming scenes.

@kuratchiminisuta

Жыл бұрын

Gaming is a waste of time if you're not in top 3 (eSports).

@kuratchiminisuta

Жыл бұрын

On the other hand (content creation) you just have to ride the trending wave of games to get noticed in India. Easy.

@coth7438

Жыл бұрын

@@kuratchiminisuta true. nothing else matters

5:51 i said that because vlt ff'd the make or break match, not that they lost. i don't even support vlt so it didn't matter to me at all. it was just amateur of them to ff when all the fans were waiting for their match up

@shrikarrr

Жыл бұрын

Cuz if they played and lost, the fans+haters would flame them for that lose trolling that APAC can never win against SEA and names yada yada yada

@jojodropZ

Жыл бұрын

@@shrikarrr dont think hate and trolls should affect a professional team LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@kuratchiminisuta

Жыл бұрын

@@shrikarrr you shouldn't be competing if that's what you're scared of

Biggest thing that nobody speaks of is how there are rarely any open tournaments with a good prize pool. Major broadcasters host- streamer , invite only tournaments and the people who play these tournaments are 34-40 year old players who are not good at the game . I don't understand how does one expect the indian scene to grow without giving space or opportunity for it to grow. If you look at upcoming tournaments they are usually streamer showdowns or some random tournaments with invite only teams. There are no new players in the indian scene, the same old CS players are playing major Valorant tournaments and will continue to do so because the broadcasters want more viewership and of course money. They advertise themselves as being platforms which expand the indian scene but all they care about is making money. There is no incentive for new players to play competitively since they are never given any attention. LOL

@pranitsehgal7566

Жыл бұрын

Great video though , appreciate good journalism

Bleed will report the bug and cry for rollback if they lose, that nano make 0 damage

@zbiushxx5657

Жыл бұрын

did u even watch the whole video bruv😂 1. the nano swarm is a game breaking bug which is banned whether or not it affects the gameplay. 2. BOOM cried so much that Penta rolled back the map but they still cried like a dog so they have to keep the scoreline 5-1 3. its becuz of idiots like u that make the tournament even worse

Damn bruh, Indian eSports is cursed.

@vintube2146

Жыл бұрын

Indian people are cursed. This is the case in everything. From the locals to the government. We are always angry and toxic for some reason.

Hey thats my team that i'm coaching pog

@nielsbohrsciencewale9771

Жыл бұрын

Revenant Coach 🛐

I know right . But when anybody tries to raise voice against these injustices there voices are shut down by owner of diff orgs which are benifited .and as an Indian valo player ( casual player not interested in going pro anytime soon) our voice are not answered cause this doesn't benifit many investors and this is basically purely profit driven even they have put India valo name to dirt.

Hello India, GE fighting

@elevenz4944

Жыл бұрын

😅😅🤘🤘

its sad that as a Indian i cant even support my own esports since we all know how fucked up it is Infact , thanks for this video , it was very imp to show how bad it is. expecting more exposes so Indians can learn ffs.

No hate to Indians. However, I watched latest youtube vdo from a player participating in an Indian lan tournament (prefer not to mention the names, both the player and the tournament). At one point he told the story about his experience with the lan tournament he had in india. He mentioned that he could not aim properly because the surface of the table was not smooth (It's bumpy even with a mousepad). When he's dragging the mouse to aim, it cannot be done smoothly. If this is true, it's really mess up. I mean, how hard it is for the organizer to prepare proper tables.

@nielsbohrsciencewale9771

Жыл бұрын

I guess it might be gxr event, it was the worst lan in India. The prizepool was 100k usd but it was dogshit

@divyansh4451

Жыл бұрын

No hate taken, it's reality - the whole gaming community in india is pissed. These useless organizers need to be kicked out of the community.

Sadge

Imagine hating over BLEED for reporting a player using bug, twitter is so toxic I just can’t believe and a 1 HOUR TECH PAUSE?, nahhh

@dussypestroyer4991

Жыл бұрын

ofc lol, reporting for a bug that been used from qualifier? thats crab mentality

@zbiushxx5657

Жыл бұрын

@@dussypestroyer4991its not BLEED's job to report it. Its the organizer's job and abusing a bug banned by riot in a final match, not admitting that they knew it and not accepting the fact that they have to forfeit the match 😂😂 surely boom's manager has some great mentality

Just how many kids exactly watch Ind Val Tournaments lol

I just hope India will never get involved in valorant .

12kinr per month is pretty standard for jobs in India.

Keeping all the other criticism aside.....boom are the one to be blamed regarding the 1hr break in between as they weren't making a peaceful decision for the TO

So fucking shamed did the region. Used to feel such a pity that billion people can't produce five legit contenders on the world stage, forget winners. Now realise why that is. It's about bad management.. go figure.

W

Kripz is not the one to blame him, production should take the blame. That's his job ffs. Penta should own up their mistakes!

I have to agree india tournament have shit production inviting big content creator can give you the number but not quality, TOs should work on it. Riot india support the scene but should interfere in tournament organizing

Even the Skye sports lan was terrible...but people here are afraid to give backlash ..in constrictive criticism ..

Wow so much drama.... well the OG will be back in a few days and then the entire "valorant scene" will be irrelevant.... XD

im playing valo since 2020 too many players from india too much talking but dont have skill and very toxic

Look I have known that Indian Valorant is becoming a joke not because the teams are bad just because of how the community is but maybe all this drama from mickey mouse tournaments lead to bigger and better tournaments which would show if Indian Valorant teams are actually good or nah

To be very honest except for PUBGM or BGMI, the infrastructure used or the quality used in other games by event organisers are bad. They only promote or host selected games, while investing more than 75% in my opinion on BGMI / PUBGM tournaments.

If zahk was provided low pay why did she even joined? She had options and she should be responsible for her choices. But, male casters getting 2x or 3x of what she is getting is unacceptable.

@cLutch.26

Жыл бұрын

Lmao she could attract a whole lot of viewership to the stream still she is underpaid what a shitty tournament.

penta esports doest know how to organize a tornament .

first india CSGO now india VALORANT?