The Worst & Most Disturbing Arguments for Religion

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In this video I critically examine some of the most controversial and unsettling arguments used to defend religious beliefs - we'll explore why these arguments are not only flawed but also deeply disturbing.
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  • @Druid75
    @Druid7521 күн бұрын

    Only religion can convince someone that they are inherently sick or evil for simply EXISTING, and need to be fixed. Only religion can convince someone of that kind of cruelty

  • @amyrenee1361

    @amyrenee1361

    21 күн бұрын

    Only religion? Then how do you explain what science and psychology are doing? Psychologists who diagnose children with disorders send the exact same message!

  • @glenliesegang233

    @glenliesegang233

    21 күн бұрын

    We have inherent evil and inherent good. Denial of our selfish destructive impulses and deciding if "sin" and "religion" wee eliminated, only pure rationality and kind behavior would be sufficient without "indoctrination in morality." That is pure fantasy, evidenced by the atheist cultural experiences of eastern Europe and China in the 20th century.

  • @Druid75

    @Druid75

    21 күн бұрын

    @@amyrenee1361 what are you babbling about?

  • @JimCastleberry

    @JimCastleberry

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Druid75 You are lying as usual. You are evil for lying, not because you exist. Try to stop lying and get honest.

  • @bensonbrett30

    @bensonbrett30

    21 күн бұрын

    Well said.

  • @Klingkling-ql9td
    @Klingkling-ql9td21 күн бұрын

    With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

  • @user-nz8uy1zm3z

    @user-nz8uy1zm3z

    19 күн бұрын

    if you do evil, you are by definition not good, so that quote don make a lot of sense

  • @scottplumer3668

    @scottplumer3668

    19 күн бұрын

    @@user-nz8uy1zm3z I think the original quote was "bad things," not "evil."

  • @user-nz8uy1zm3z

    @user-nz8uy1zm3z

    19 күн бұрын

    @@scottplumer3668 that does make more sense, but I think my point still stands. If you consistently do bad things you are not a good person

  • @scottplumer3668

    @scottplumer3668

    18 күн бұрын

    @@user-nz8uy1zm3z Absolutely!

  • @cheesyone
    @cheesyone21 күн бұрын

    I think Andrew has taken a few too many hits in the head.

  • @LouisJasper

    @LouisJasper

    21 күн бұрын

    Just brain damaged enough to form horrible opinions. Not brain damaged enough to be unable to act on those opinions.

  • @JustReed

    @JustReed

    21 күн бұрын

    Seriously.

  • @Ponera-Sama

    @Ponera-Sama

    13 күн бұрын

    I think he hasn't taken ENOUGH.

  • @ikenosis8160
    @ikenosis816021 күн бұрын

    Tate, Russell Brand, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and apparently Jordan Peterson have become outright conmen and grifters, all trying to prove how religious they are, even of that means wildly gesticulating the definition of basic words. Brand now wearing his double crosses makes me sick to my stomach, I can't see him for more than a few seconds. I'd rather be trapped in an elevator with a Crocodile.

  • @toughenupfluffy7294

    @toughenupfluffy7294

    21 күн бұрын

    What, it surprises you that a predatory monster wears an ancient torture device as a symbol?

  • @Fullyautomagic

    @Fullyautomagic

    21 күн бұрын

    Most of that group openly hates Tate

  • @UngoogleableMan

    @UngoogleableMan

    21 күн бұрын

    became? lol. they always were.

  • @FactStorm

    @FactStorm

    20 күн бұрын

    Don't forget Hirsi Ali, Michael Knowles, Prager, Douglas Murray and other nutjobs. They're all the same..

  • @spocksvulcanbrain

    @spocksvulcanbrain

    20 күн бұрын

    I agree with what you said. But one has to wonder why the religious follow these guys so fervently. Is it because religion creates non-skeptical, low thinking, gullible people who will believe anything with "Jesus" or "God" in the claim? It's the followers that are the problem and danger. Without them, these clowns would be broke, homeless and mocked endlessly for their stupidity.

  • @danielgareth4205
    @danielgareth420521 күн бұрын

    Andrew Tate: Claiming that others have lost "baseline morality". Also Andrew Tate: Facing criminal investigation on Human Trafficking and sexual exploitation in Romania.

  • @LeLe-hm8dw

    @LeLe-hm8dw

    19 күн бұрын

    been 2 years, if they had anything, he'd be in jail, lol.

  • @OneTheBlue

    @OneTheBlue

    19 күн бұрын

    @@LeLe-hm8dw Human trafficking investigations are known for taking several years. I don't know why, but that has consistently been the case.

  • @user-nz8uy1zm3z

    @user-nz8uy1zm3z

    19 күн бұрын

    andrew tate is that face of islam, not the face of religion

  • @MarkoVukovic0

    @MarkoVukovic0

    19 күн бұрын

    @@LeLe-hm8dw aawww, we have a "Top G" minion. He's awaiting trial. A self-confessed scammer. What exactly do you think he was doing in Romania, hmm?

  • @Nyxy-zu7lv

    @Nyxy-zu7lv

    19 күн бұрын

    ​@@MarkoVukovic0 "Top G minion" 🤓 Innocent until proven guilty, Multiple men commit suicide because of people like you.

  • @timhallas4275
    @timhallas427521 күн бұрын

    I've known this since my 15th year of life. I've been telling others what I know for 50 years. I have saved a few people from their dogmatic upbringing, but many many more have slipped away. The one constant in determining ones ability to escape is the ability to properly understand science. The one constant I have found in Christians who take their religion seriously is the absolute acceptance, even a reverence for ignorance. They take pride in denying scientific fact, even going as far as declaring that knowledge is the tool of Satan. I find them pathetically childish.

  • @FactStorm

    @FactStorm

    20 күн бұрын

    Science keeps destroying religious dogma, and the harder they fight back against reality and evidence. Delusion and stupidity are a very powerful thing..

  • @eeroraute281

    @eeroraute281

    14 күн бұрын

    Why ar eyou atheists so old also christians don’t deny science we invented science rome didn’t do any science or develop anything new

  • @Reclaimer77
    @Reclaimer7721 күн бұрын

    The worst most disturbing arguments for religion... All of them.

  • @andy2950
    @andy295021 күн бұрын

    If we lived in a religious based world, would Tate still be allowed to drink alcohol , smoke cigars, and sleep with multiple women?

  • @ricardorivera6092

    @ricardorivera6092

    21 күн бұрын

    Why do you think he's chosen Islam as his new religion? (One of many selfish reasons)

  • @Fullyautomagic

    @Fullyautomagic

    21 күн бұрын

    @@ricardorivera6092Islam bans alcohol but not the other two

  • @zahirmurji

    @zahirmurji

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Fullyautomagicit does ban Alcohol, but you can buy alcohol underground anywhere in the Muslim world.

  • @FactStorm

    @FactStorm

    20 күн бұрын

    @@ricardorivera6092 Exactly, its strictly for two reasons: polygamy, and to justify authoritarianism

  • @spocksvulcanbrain

    @spocksvulcanbrain

    20 күн бұрын

    @@Fullyautomagic I've known lots and LOTS of Muslims that drink, smoke, run around and such. They are just like all other followers of any religion. They pick and choose what to follow. This is mostly seen outside of Muslim countries. Even inside them, the elite partake in all these things. All religions are hypocritical.

  • @herbiewalkermusic
    @herbiewalkermusic21 күн бұрын

    Fucking hell the only thing that could have made Andrew Tate any worse is him trying to sound intelligent and spewing this nonsense. Thanks for this video. What a horribly dangerous character.

  • @thegametroll6264

    @thegametroll6264

    21 күн бұрын

    Usually " believers " trying to sound "intellectual " when I see it at least, strikes me as a six foot tall kindergarten student playing a dangerous game of pretend where in the worst cases if you don't buy or express interest in what they are selling they will do some pretty nasty things.

  • @user-nz8uy1zm3z

    @user-nz8uy1zm3z

    19 күн бұрын

    @@thegametroll6264 dont compare all religious people to tate, that would be like comparing all the godless people of the world to Jeffrey Epstein

  • @PatrickWDunne
    @PatrickWDunne21 күн бұрын

    So if I help an old lady across the street, somewhere else in the world is an old lady falling down?

  • @MemeLordCrusader

    @MemeLordCrusader

    14 күн бұрын

    Exactly

  • @Joshua-dc1bs

    @Joshua-dc1bs

    14 күн бұрын

    Yes

  • @AndyCampbellMusic
    @AndyCampbellMusic21 күн бұрын

    Faith is indistinguishable from stupidity and a licence for liars and charlatans to exploit the fearful, desperate vulnerable. Foolish beliefs cause foolish behaviour, it doesn't matter who holds them or where they come from...

  • @eddelves6318
    @eddelves631821 күн бұрын

    Religion is the biggest threat to mankind. Period.

  • @VolodymyrPankov

    @VolodymyrPankov

    21 күн бұрын

    Agree globally! It's the main threat.

  • @ashwayn

    @ashwayn

    21 күн бұрын

    So you not read many faiths?

  • @Istandby666

    @Istandby666

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@ashwayn People don't believe because they read many faiths.

  • @JimCastleberry

    @JimCastleberry

    21 күн бұрын

    Except Atheism has a far worse record of mass-slaughter and human repression, while the Christian religion gave the world science, hospitals, universities, and a foundation for human rights. Facts matter.

  • @ashwayn

    @ashwayn

    21 күн бұрын

    @@Istandby666 read one and thats it thats a silly idea go sacred text on line and count them

  • @toughenupfluffy7294
    @toughenupfluffy729421 күн бұрын

    Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile. ~Kurt Vonnegut

  • @shawnsimmons1308
    @shawnsimmons130821 күн бұрын

    I don’t have a problem with those who don’t hold a literal belief of their religion and have the ability to modernize their religious beliefs to fit modern moral values. But those who hold a literal belief of their religion are some of the most dangerous and cruelest creatures ever to human flourishing and human progress.

  • @eeroraute281

    @eeroraute281

    14 күн бұрын

    Modern values are a religion i won’t follow the teachings of the french revolutions but the God who founded the one holy catholic and apostolic church on pentacost 33 Jom Ha Adonai year of the Lord i will follow

  • @Istandby666
    @Istandby66621 күн бұрын

    When people talk to their false beliefs of a sky daddy and then go fight. The fight is now a false belief of a sky daddy fight. Your false beliefs vs the other persons false beliefs.

  • @iitywybmad29
    @iitywybmad2921 күн бұрын

    superstition - noun 1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition 2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary Merriam-Webster

  • @glenliesegang233

    @glenliesegang233

    21 күн бұрын

    Is "death by voodoo curse" a real phenomenon in victims who are not superstitious?

  • @AndyCampbellMusic

    @AndyCampbellMusic

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@glenliesegang233No Are you dead?

  • @AndyCampbellMusic

    @AndyCampbellMusic

    21 күн бұрын

    They shut down the lunatic asylums but didn't do anything about the lunatics....

  • @AndyCampbellMusic

    @AndyCampbellMusic

    21 күн бұрын

    Foolish beliefs cause foolish behaviour. It doesn't matter who holds them or where they come from....

  • @eeroraute281

    @eeroraute281

    14 күн бұрын

    Thats not a superstition bro superstitions are beliefs of actions and behaviour effecting your luck which determines your future events

  • @undaware
    @undaware21 күн бұрын

    I fear people who don't believe in intrinisc morality feel this way because they don't believe in their own morality.

  • @nsbd90now
    @nsbd90now20 күн бұрын

    As social creatures we are hard-wired to feel empathy, and are inclined towards altruism and compassion. That is the foundation of moral-ethical thinking and development. Nothing supernatural or metaphysical needed. To not feel empathy is a significant pathology-- a sociopath. The whole "Original Sin/we are ontologically inclined towards the bad" becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. And frankly, it seems like a type of child abuse to raise one thinking that of themselves. If you only don't murder because you're afraid of eternal punishment you're not actually a good person, you're a criminal being held in check.

  • @AtamMardes
    @AtamMardes20 күн бұрын

    "Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." -- Voltaire

  • @eeroraute281

    @eeroraute281

    14 күн бұрын

    Dead ””””””””””””enlightenment”””””””””””””” Figures are fucking idiots voltaire was pro slavery

  • @eeroraute281

    @eeroraute281

    14 күн бұрын

    (((Enlightenment)))

  • @itsROMPERS...
    @itsROMPERS...21 күн бұрын

    Tate is not a sincere believer, he is a grifter trying to push concepts for his own perceived benefit.

  • @matemondovics9990
    @matemondovics999013 күн бұрын

    This is one of the most valuable videos I've ever seen on youtube! I seriously hope it gets people thinking

  • @angrychickenyt

    @angrychickenyt

    12 күн бұрын

    LOL. How can something be "wrong" from an athiest perspective? All morals are subjective and fake if you don't believe in a divine moral code.

  • @musicbeann
    @musicbeann14 күн бұрын

    This is amazing content... excited for whats next!

  • @VolodymyrPankov
    @VolodymyrPankov21 күн бұрын

    Religion is the main threat for humanity.

  • @JimCastleberry

    @JimCastleberry

    21 күн бұрын

    Atheism is horrific. If no God exists, life is objectively meaningless, purposeless, temporary chemical accident awaiting annihilation no matter how you live. Your life has no real significance above a cockroach or a termite. No real moral difference exists between mass-murder and swatting flies. Atheism is madness.

  • @joelogjam9163
    @joelogjam916321 күн бұрын

    "A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around them but also against their own selves. The fanatical believer is not conscious of his envy, malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall of words between his consciousness and his real self." ~Eric Hoffer

  • @joelonsdale
    @joelonsdale20 күн бұрын

    Tate is poisonous. He's had such a negative effect on the young men of the world. We had to "deconstruct" our son's appalling views of women that are straight from Tate's foul, ignorant, abusive mouth. Thankfully, now our son is maturing and starting to figure out some of life's complexities for himself.

  • @OneTheBlue

    @OneTheBlue

    19 күн бұрын

    I need to do the same thing with a family member who has been influenced by Tate. How did you go about the deconstruction process? Socratic questioning?...

  • @joelonsdale

    @joelonsdale

    19 күн бұрын

    @@OneTheBlue No, we just let him talk about his views and let his mum and 14 year old sister, both powerful women, tear a strip off him. Several sessions. It's hard to stay believing Tate's BS when faced with two caring, intelligent, thoughtful and powerful independent women!

  • @eeroraute281

    @eeroraute281

    14 күн бұрын

    Atheist is salty his son did not lissen to his religious teachings

  • @eeroraute281

    @eeroraute281

    14 күн бұрын

    Or by emotional blackmail which is what most family talks are

  • @joelonsdale

    @joelonsdale

    14 күн бұрын

    @@eeroraute281 _"Atheist is salty his son did not lissen to his religious teachings"_ My son *did* listen to my teachings, because he has love and respect for me and I have love and respect for him. And religion doesn't come into it.

  • @Istandby666
    @Istandby66621 күн бұрын

    Cancer is a big threat to humanity. Believing in childhood fairy tales is a big threat to humanity. Therefore, making the second comment the same as the first.

  • @toughenupfluffy7294

    @toughenupfluffy7294

    21 күн бұрын

    Yeah, but they're working on a cure for cancer.

  • @FactStorm

    @FactStorm

    20 күн бұрын

    @@toughenupfluffy7294 Lmao, but a cure for religion is less likely

  • @Tian-wi6qr

    @Tian-wi6qr

    15 күн бұрын

    @@FactStorm There is a cure for religion as well - education (+rational thinking)

  • @linuxramblingproductions8554

    @linuxramblingproductions8554

    15 күн бұрын

    @@FactStormproper education is one of the best ways of prevention and people often deconvert so a cure technically does exist

  • @zenn3339
    @zenn333919 күн бұрын

    If he is the good side,we are screwed.

  • @thanasisrks4944

    @thanasisrks4944

    14 күн бұрын

    Since you consider yourself demonic I guess so..

  • @dreadfulspiller8766
    @dreadfulspiller876621 күн бұрын

    There are videos of him without sunglasses? Seriously though he is a nutcase.

  • @kookamunga2458

    @kookamunga2458

    21 күн бұрын

    The eyes are the windows of the soul or in my case the mind . He's most likely hiding something like guilt by wearing sunglasses.

  • @eeroraute281

    @eeroraute281

    14 күн бұрын

    ”Did you like my sunglasses” Andrew Tate Wearing sunglasses indoors is fucking rad fo you atheists not have style

  • @De_Selby

    @De_Selby

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@eeroraute281 well you're stupid.

  • @kookamunga2458

    @kookamunga2458

    14 күн бұрын

    @@eeroraute281 Atheists are sinners and sinners are sexy , say no more !

  • @Istandby666
    @Istandby66621 күн бұрын

    His first argument doesn't stand true because his example is taken out of content.

  • @JaapVanderHorst

    @JaapVanderHorst

    21 күн бұрын

    Taking things out of context deliberatly is evil in itself.

  • @JustReed

    @JustReed

    21 күн бұрын

    Wonder if he even knows about Newtons religious... life?

  • @momgo6533

    @momgo6533

    21 күн бұрын

    can you point me to the full interview (if you know where) i cant seem to find it

  • @momgo6533

    @momgo6533

    21 күн бұрын

    nvm found a different video of him saying the same thing, thats genuinely what he believes

  • @jamespadilla7070

    @jamespadilla7070

    20 күн бұрын

    Tate meatrider

  • @ashwayn
    @ashwayn21 күн бұрын

    If you read the Koran and Hadiths and reliance you will never become a Muslim,,

  • @amyrenee1361

    @amyrenee1361

    21 күн бұрын

    Same with the Bible. I grew up in the Christian religion, and then when I started actually reading the Bible, I couldn't believe all that was written within.

  • @ashwayn

    @ashwayn

    21 күн бұрын

    @@amyrenee1361 I was born in 1942 yes there was only christianity then in 1953 Winston Churchill REEMOVED the witch craft act , And Paganism resurged and books appeared on Paganism/Heathenism

  • @user-nz8uy1zm3z

    @user-nz8uy1zm3z

    19 күн бұрын

    @@amyrenee1361 what did you find so unbelievable?

  • @craaab____721

    @craaab____721

    17 күн бұрын

    @@user-nz8uy1zm3z Talking snakes, omnipotence, a global flood, unicorns, 900+ year old people, a man splitting the sea apart with a stick, unproblematic inbreeding, dogma, LITERAL F****NG MAGIC.

  • @Tian-wi6qr

    @Tian-wi6qr

    15 күн бұрын

    @@craaab____721 Don't forget about the universe and earth being ~10000 years old, all animals, plants, etc... being created at the same time in the span of 6 days

  • @pyrosfuel
    @pyrosfuel20 күн бұрын

    Keep up the good work!

  • @somersetcace1
    @somersetcace121 күн бұрын

    Basically, listening to Andrew Tate on pretty much any subject, requires soft padded gloves so you don't hurt yourself facepalming. This is no exception.

  • @claytonveno3710
    @claytonveno371016 күн бұрын

    The only problem I have with this video is that I disagree that religion isn't inherantly evil, and that dogmatism is the problem, when in reality religion IS by its very nature DOGMATIC and it is religion that breeds fanaticism and violence against non believers. It's time to stop crediting religion with good things like art, poetry, community, belief in an afterlife, belief in a god, and so on. When religion was never needed for any of these things to begin with. I also think it's time people who use religion as a crutch to be better people or help them cope with death get proper therapy and treatment to deal with these things without religion as well.

  • @Fullyautomagic
    @Fullyautomagic21 күн бұрын

    3:25 he’s not even a good religious person because he’s idolized the book and not the god which the book says he should not do. I’m an agnostic atheist.

  • @user-id9oi1py4t

    @user-id9oi1py4t

    13 күн бұрын

    The book doesn't even have that many answers you need to listen to hadiths also

  • @gambler143
    @gambler14321 күн бұрын

    Religion did not invent morality. You don't need religion to be a good person. You simply decide to be a good person.

  • @eeroraute281

    @eeroraute281

    14 күн бұрын

    Well in the words of many atheists prove that You can’t be objectively moral without God because atheism is just not believing in any gods/God it doesn’t give you morality neither does science philosophy and theology do give objective morality and the more aristotelian/platonic ie objective truth the more theistic it is

  • @gambler143

    @gambler143

    14 күн бұрын

    @@eeroraute281 - Morality is inherent to humanity. Long before religion was conceived humans were still moral creatures. Thousands of religions have come and gone and humans have gotten through.

  • @sirrodney3443
    @sirrodney344321 күн бұрын

    Religon is the placibo for the non thinking person.

  • @JustReed

    @JustReed

    21 күн бұрын

    Spot on. 'Just swallow this and you'll be forgiven, -Ok.'

  • @biedl86
    @biedl8614 күн бұрын

    I mean, I seriously appreciate what you are doing here. It is important. And the video definitely found its spot in one of my playlists about religion. But the "innate moral values" just throws me off. "Innate" and "value" just don't go together. There just is no evaluation in a simple neurological stimulus reaction, which is what's innate. The evaluation only comes second, and it is contingent upon upbringing and the value systems we've been taught. Stimulus reaction is objective. Evaluating it is subjective, hence not innate.

  • @Deathvalley1980
    @Deathvalley198020 күн бұрын

    Great video

  • @user-ge4om9jw5u
    @user-ge4om9jw5u21 күн бұрын

    What a sad, small dark world full of ignorance, mysticism and superstition these theists inhabit.

  • @alessioandreoli2145
    @alessioandreoli214520 күн бұрын

    These extreme apologetics are not only ignorant and dangerous but also intentionally scaring and imposing fears to justify their irrational thoughts.

  • @LogicalKip
    @LogicalKip21 күн бұрын

    He's on the right track about one thing, though. If you pick and choose from your sacred text, you're a hypocrite. Own it or get out, at least you will be sincere. If you can tell by yourself which are the good bits and which you must interpret, then you don't need religion.

  • @planmet
    @planmet21 күн бұрын

    I recently read an article on primate behaviour - more specifically on the reconciliation and de-conflicting methods macaque monkeys use in their social groups. It suggests that natural selection favoured cooperation, altruism and obedience. There are two behavioural types - the tolerant and the despotic types. The tolerant types easily go with the flow at any cost whilst the despotic ones become leaders and set the standards. I can see this behaviour playing out in human society - eg, in Russia where obedience to a (despotic) leader is so hard wired - to avoid conflict (imprisonment). Religions provide a despotic figure and the tolerant types have to accept without question what is dictated in the holy book - or face eternal damnation. You need to study evolution, particularly the evolution of mankind from primates and realise that we have evolved intrinsic behaviours suitable for social societies and these have nothing to do with a creator. The creator appeared only recently (100,000 years ago?) in the imaginations of advanced societies all around the World.

  • @so_k_rat_es__society3118
    @so_k_rat_es__society311820 күн бұрын

    You nailed it.

  • @lukemitchell1975
    @lukemitchell197521 күн бұрын

    This vile bully should in jail

  • @Max-ki6df
    @Max-ki6df21 күн бұрын

    While I agree with everything else, I can't help but point out the danger of seeing morality as being based around what is advantages for us as a species. People can and did for example argue for the murder of disabled people using this argument, bringing it ad absurdum, since acts like that are generally seen as evil. There is no clear way of attributing behaviours to evolutionary effects, since our brain is so niche and overdeveloped at this point, I'd wish you could have clarified more, that these theories of yours are just that.

  • @nsbd90now

    @nsbd90now

    20 күн бұрын

    We are born hard-wired to feel empathy and incline towards things like altruism and compassion. That is the evolutionary basis of moral-ethical thought and development. To not feel empathy is to be a sociopath-- a significant, organically-based brain disorder.

  • @desireedebellis6766
    @desireedebellis676621 күн бұрын

    without a doubt the most immoral ,unethical friend I 've ever had was a so called christian who loved "god" with all her heart.. I had to sever ties after 33 years of listening to her nonsense ,who blamed Satan for every disgusting thing she did

  • @DisposableSupervillainHenchman

    @DisposableSupervillainHenchman

    21 күн бұрын

    Yeesh. I’m betting if she was assessed by a psychologist that she would likely be a narcissist or have BPD, yes?

  • @BerishaFatian
    @BerishaFatian21 күн бұрын

    *Morality* hasn't changed, our *understanding* of morality has changed. If morality has changed then there wouldn't be such thing as a moral progress, because there would be no objective moral standard that we are approaching to call it a progress.

  • @thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279

    @thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279

    20 күн бұрын

    Objective morality doesn't exist.

  • @BerishaFatian

    @BerishaFatian

    20 күн бұрын

    Why do you say that?

  • @nsbd90now

    @nsbd90now

    20 күн бұрын

    @@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 Yes it does as it is inherently a social thing-- not subjective or individualistic. As social creatures we feel empathy and are inclined towards altruism and compassion. That is the foundation for moral-ethical development.

  • @thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279

    @thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279

    20 күн бұрын

    @@nsbd90now I agree with everything you said but that's not objective morality... you might be able to show objectively that subjective morality is a good thing. But things such as 'killing is objectively immoral' fails when nuances are assessed.. Such as someone attacks and tries to kill you or your family... suddenly killing that person doesn't seem to be immoral. Every situation needs assessment. Hope that makes sense?

  • @nsbd90now

    @nsbd90now

    20 күн бұрын

    @@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 You don't understand what "objective" means. It is the opposite of a private, subjective sensibility. "Objective" truths, facts, understandings are, by definition, social-- identified in community, not as an individual. Morality is always social as it is always in reference to other people. You are arguing for moral relativism. So, we can say that objectively, murder is wrong, so is stealing and lying. The example you gave of "killing" was in "self-defense"-- not "murder". Two different things. The morality isn't in the killing itself, but in the total social context of the action. Again, it goes back to hard-wiring in the brain-- which is objectively observed by the scientific community.

  • @GraemeHogg
    @GraemeHogg21 күн бұрын

    Whilst in prison together one tate brother becomes a Muslim and the other an orthodox Christian, covers both demographic in the grift

  • @AshaSelfsDemoFilms
    @AshaSelfsDemoFilms21 күн бұрын

    12:02 Are you serious? He's a grifter. It's the first move of the abusive dude handbook. When in trouble run to religion for forgiveness. Usually they'll get it. Did you see that pastor who's abusee called him out during a sermon just to be chastised by the congregation? Shia just pulled this and I have a feeling Diddy will as well.

  • @FatemehHedayat-ms4kp
    @FatemehHedayat-ms4kp14 күн бұрын

    well spoken

  • @user-hq1uf7ud1f
    @user-hq1uf7ud1f21 күн бұрын

    The way you speak is amazing. How can I be as smart as you?

  • @De_Selby

    @De_Selby

    14 күн бұрын

    An open mind, abject honesty, lots of books and lots of conversations I'd say.

  • @zachio69
    @zachio6921 күн бұрын

    I disagree that evil is a force its an adjective

  • @Istandby666
    @Istandby66621 күн бұрын

    The prison system forces the ideology of these false ideologies of floating sky daddies in the sky.

  • @JimCastleberry

    @JimCastleberry

    21 күн бұрын

    You are lying as usual. Nobody believe in sky daddies. Try to stop lying and get honest about what theists believe (God). Transcendent/non-physical....

  • @surgeonsergio6839
    @surgeonsergio683914 күн бұрын

    I mean he's a $3* trafficker after all, that even steals from those traficked.

  • @Dawnarow
    @Dawnarow21 күн бұрын

    That first clip of him in the first minute is him asserting that there is evil... but won't acknowledge that people perpetrated it and why they did... most of the acts of terror and hatred (evil) come from bigoted povs or anger because people couldn't get along. Whats the first reason they can't get along? 1- Assumptions of what the other person said rather than what they said 2- believing in erroneous ideas... such as doing a bad deed will get you something. Yes, it will bring you torment (forget those that can't grasp this.. that's a minority and they're Very much appealed by religious extremists... not secular extremism... that doesn't exist. Is there a good reason for lying for example? Yes. To defend Life itself. Is there a good reason for killing? Same answer. It's not terribly complicated and children can easily come to these conclusions if they're nurtured and cared for. This paradigm can only exist if there are no lies out of ignorance.. most children would choose to part ways with it if they're given the choice after several years. They can drag themselves out of the fear imparted by parents that tell them that hell awaits. The ONLY argument that is hard to dismiss from theology is "why be good if you don't get punishment" so they argue against morality... Secular people KNOW that being good to others makes you reliable, more pleasant, don't have this option of evil in your kit/wouldn't prioritize it unless you have done it over and over (force of habit). Doing something morally wrong like selling sex like this turd did (he's a sex trafficker, btw... one sin in Islam... he should be punished for it in this life as well as after, but hey that's a detail right?). Anyways... deflect, atk, ignorance, petulance.. terrifying combo.

  • @collier6794
    @collier679421 күн бұрын

    Would love to see Matt dillahunty or Sam harris vs Tate 😅

  • @De_Selby

    @De_Selby

    14 күн бұрын

    That'd not be a fun watch. We'd have tate enforcing his system of values and interpretations onto points and his mestriders pretending like a valid argument has been made while he actually said nothing of any substance.

  • @brian1204
    @brian12047 күн бұрын

    He decided to quit thinking for himself; just follow what’s in an old book! Never mind there are a lot of old books, many of which contradict the others (or that some parts of the book contradicts other parts in the same book). Outsourcing his personal morality is not a good thing.

  • @mavrosyvannah
    @mavrosyvannah20 күн бұрын

    We are not all to know. Religion removes all opportunities to experience true spirituality. No one can use words to explain this.

  • @ComiskeyMatt
    @ComiskeyMatt21 күн бұрын

    I think you are charitable in assuming he is using Newton's 3rd Law as a metaphor. I believe that he really thinks it applies, and is using it as concrete evidence for his argument. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it more likely than not.

  • @mcbuckets5457
    @mcbuckets545721 күн бұрын

    How about what Billy Carson researched

  • @tinkeringtim7999
    @tinkeringtim799912 күн бұрын

    Fail at the first hurdle, Tait correctly states the underlying philosophy of Newton which led to the 3rd law, it all just goes over this pitiful "debunker".

  • @hkmorhsi
    @hkmorhsi19 күн бұрын

    He is the son of a chess grandmaster ex CIA agent… I am not surprised about anything he thinks or has to say.

  • @johnpro2847
    @johnpro284721 күн бұрын

    why do people adore a being that is just as likely to torture them and their families for making errors..sick (lucky it is just made up superstitions nonsense.

  • @iced.autumn

    @iced.autumn

    21 күн бұрын

    I never understood that either. And none of the ----fairy tale---- believers that I asked could ever give me an answer. Just like many of my questions about their Daddy in the sky, they had no answers. Just always telling me that we weren't meant to understand everything yet.... Or it's "his" will/plan for us.... Total silliness!

  • @stan1027
    @stan102721 күн бұрын

    Steven Weinberg created that analogy by leaving out the 4th part of the statement, that is, for evil people to do good, that also takes religion.

  • @jaidee9570
    @jaidee957021 күн бұрын

    Unfortunately when so many young men feel isolated from their societies, and are being told the society is fine, they are the problem, people like Tate can throw them a message that resonates with them. Unfortunately because in the west we are no longer allowed nuance or discussion of uncomfortable issues, if a person does 99 good deeds but 1 bad deed we have to ignore or discredit the 99 good deeds. Some of what Tate says does provide a positive message for young men, the same as Jordan Peterson, unfortunately it's seems beyond many people to be able to distinguish between the things being said and the person saying them. An absurd example of this are autobahns/freeways inherently evil because they are a fascist invention? Of course not, they serve a function. Likewise, not everything a person says is good or bad.

  • @thelibyanplzcomeback
    @thelibyanplzcomeback15 күн бұрын

    The political extremism of the 2020s isn't even funny anymore; it's just creepy.

  • @renevalice3056
    @renevalice305621 күн бұрын

    He sounds as if he should have studied Zoroastrian philosophy, with duality of a deity having good/evil mechanisms from the divine planes. We’re just a part of the wonder of celestial presence.

  • @antinatalope
    @antinatalope21 күн бұрын

    Morality is led by self-preservation and empathy for other sentient beings who deserve the same good treatment you yourself deserve.

  • @bt3750
    @bt375018 күн бұрын

    Does he have a condition? It is super weird that he's wearing sunglasses while being interviewed. If he doesn't have an eye condition, then that is a sign of someone hiding something.

  • @solomon6579
    @solomon657921 күн бұрын

    I consider myself an agnostic leaning towards atheism but the reason why I haven't switched sides completely is because I can't explain what happens to those people who start doing weird things when pastorspray to them . Can someone please please help me debunk this as an argument for the existence of God

  • @SiRushBass

    @SiRushBass

    21 күн бұрын

    That's the power of suggestion mate. The excellent Derren Brown can bring on exactly the same mind states and effects using psychological tricks. He told us all it's just tricks and suggestion, then proceeded to convince they had been healed of decades long pains, or make them fall into a trance on the ground. I've seen him do it in his live shows, and also in one of his TV shows when he went to America to pretend to be an evangelical Christian.

  • @craaab____721

    @craaab____721

    17 күн бұрын

    When people are brought up in a dogma, they believe whatever they are told by their superiors. Its a placebo affect, like a doctor giving you sugar pills, and telling you they'll cure you of a virus. you feel as though you're getting better, but in reality the pills did nothing.

  • @linuxramblingproductions8554

    @linuxramblingproductions8554

    15 күн бұрын

    Belief it or not has a good video on this if i can find it ill tell you it but he goes over why it works and the methods they use on people to effectively trick them. Thats also why people often “cure” people of diseases through prayer and then they later die from that disease sadly

  • @linuxramblingproductions8554

    @linuxramblingproductions8554

    15 күн бұрын

    It is belief it or not the problem with miracles Its very long but it makes a lot of interesting points and i found entertaining and will really demystify how that happens

  • @benjamindover5676
    @benjamindover567620 күн бұрын

    Very good. I'll sub.. Too late I already have.

  • @Ponera-Sama
    @Ponera-Sama13 күн бұрын

    Does Andrew Tate think the force of good that comes from God is equal to the world's forces of evil, or does he think God is omnibenevolent and omnipotent? Because it can't be both.

  • @fractode
    @fractode21 күн бұрын

    Listening to anything Andrew Tate has to say about anything is akin to heeding advice from game show hosts about life insurance.

  • @SneakySteevy
    @SneakySteevy21 күн бұрын

    Morality is irrelevant. Values, needs and desires aren’t. Morality is forced on people and expected to be ALWAYS respected. Is an obligation. Just like rules, principles and laws. Values, desires and needs are flexible. Be flexible I don’t mean they can be put aside. I mean that they are flexible.

  • @nsbd90now

    @nsbd90now

    20 күн бұрын

    You are making a false distinction. Moral-ethical thought and behavior are expressions of values. Morality develops.... check out Kohlberg's theory of moral development. A child's morality is "reward and punishment" a Saint's is based on principles.

  • @SneakySteevy

    @SneakySteevy

    20 күн бұрын

    @@nsbd90now when a kid learn to not do something because he could get punished for it he is not being taught how to think but what to think. Kids that are taught how to think don’t need punishment. What is the reason to force morality on everybody when you can let choose their own values, needs and desires?

  • @De_Selby

    @De_Selby

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@SneakySteevy you don't choose desires and needs though. Nor do you choose values. What do you even base your values on if not how they affect your relations with others or the world? We can never be truly free. But honestly I wouldn't want to reach abject freedom. It sounds... lonesome, not worth the freedom that comes with.

  • @De_Selby

    @De_Selby

    14 күн бұрын

    Also, morality is very much relevant. The belief that morality is irrelevant is what ends up causing atrocities such as WW2. Moral nihilism at the first stage denies the value of human life and justifies murder, disregarding our inherent sense of guilt and pity. We have to figure out our morality. Morality has been the most important subject to be explored since the dawn of time, and since Nietzsche put into words how meaningless it is how we define morals and act accordingly to them.

  • @nsbd90now

    @nsbd90now

    14 күн бұрын

    @@SneakySteevy Again, your lack of any actual education on the topic is quite obvious as is your low level of moral development.. A child's level of morality as "reward & punishment" is not the same as a fully developed adult operating on moral principles. Again, if you aren't too intellectually lazy, start educating yourself on the topic with Kohlberg's States of Moral Development and perhaps you won't be embarrassing yourself to such an extent.

  • @ArsxnIV
    @ArsxnIV15 күн бұрын

    "WhAt cOloUr Is yOUr bUghAttI?"

  • @gayesthusky2177
    @gayesthusky217721 күн бұрын

    Unless I am mistaken, isn’t tate under investigation for peedoh crimes? I may be wrong but that’s what I have heard.

  • @OneTheBlue

    @OneTheBlue

    19 күн бұрын

    He's being investigated for human trafficking. I believe the victims were legally adults though.

  • @punkaholia
    @punkaholia10 күн бұрын

    Isnt it blasphemy to say Gods power is equal, not greater, than Satans?

  • @daemonthorn5888
    @daemonthorn588821 күн бұрын

    6:12 The word you should have used here is, "cohesion". "Group cohesion". Not, "coercion".

  • @ericgraham3344
    @ericgraham334420 күн бұрын

    But What If The ones on the Other Island Religion Tells You TO Eat Him

  • @dorkception2012
    @dorkception201219 күн бұрын

    Someone who Chose to follow Islam religion already tells everything from that person.

  • @baronghede2365
    @baronghede236516 күн бұрын

    I am a moderate nationalist and think Andrew Tate is nuts, Blessed be.

  • @imwithname843
    @imwithname84321 күн бұрын

    How fucked up is this Tate?

  • @markfindlay8636
    @markfindlay863621 күн бұрын

    Yeah and tate is getting prosecuted for human trafficking if true not very Christian.

  • @iced.autumn

    @iced.autumn

    21 күн бұрын

    That's actually very christian. They are some of the meanest and most judgemental people out there. Then they hide behind their bible and claim they are following God's word. That or they do awful stuff and then pray for forgiveness. Then rinse and repeat. Well, at least most of the Christians I've ever had the displeasure of knowing are like that...

  • @evansnyamesah1755
    @evansnyamesah175521 күн бұрын

    🔥💯

  • @brucecook502
    @brucecook50221 күн бұрын

    Ironic he uses an analogy about two islands, one being an unbelieving cannibalistic island, and the other being a religious potentially cannibalistic Island. First off he forgot about the third island, the one where there is no God belief but no cannibalistic Tendencies either. I would rather choose that one if I had no other information, because at least I wouldn't have to worry about being subjugated by religious laws even if I was allowed to survive. He also forgot about the fourth island where it is religious but they would want to put me to death or mistreat me because I'm LGBT. Oh wait, I am living on an island with people that are like that, it's called the continent of North America where people like Andrew Tate live. Good thing morality has improved enough where I don't have to worry about people like Andrew Tate having their way with me. Also he claims Islam is an evil religion. I wonder why he comes to that conclusion, is it because of the actions that are informed by some of their religious beliefs? Does Andrew not realize that other people View his beliefs in the same way, especially people who have in fact been harmed because of those beliefs? Muslims get most of their morality from the same set of laws that Andrew quotes from when he condemns homosexuality. And Andrew condemns the pope for being more passive towards LGBT people, makes me wonder out of the over 600 laws that the Moses character was said to have given, I wonder if in Andrews day-to-day life since he has been christian, I wonder if he lives up to par with every last one of those over 600 laws. I'd be willing to bet the answer is no. But he's willing to point out the flaws and other Christians. The man with a beam in his eye who is criticizing another man because he sees a splinter in his.

  • @rajeev_kumar
    @rajeev_kumar20 күн бұрын

    Andrew Tate is a wicked person.

  • @alanhilder1883
    @alanhilder188321 күн бұрын

    " All the evil in the world is being counted by ". As a lot of the evil in the world is being supplied by the religious extremists, god isn't doing a very good job.

  • @nsbd90now

    @nsbd90now

    20 күн бұрын

    There is a moral maxim "if you are aware of abuse and do nothing about it you are complicit with that abuse." I think most people of good will would agree with this. Don't you? In light of that moral maxim this god of Abraham-- worshiped by the Jews, Christians and Muslims-- is horrendously immoral. This god is said to be all-powerful, all-knowing, omnipresent. So, he literally watches children being abused and tortured-- even by his own priests, pastors, rabbis and imams-- and does absolutely nothing. In light of that why would one expect any better from those who worship such a god?

  • @thegametroll6264
    @thegametroll626421 күн бұрын

    Wow. I didn't think kindergarten logic lasted this long. These people teach me to spot stupid just by seeing it and this dude is worse than that. I would say if we relied on the so called morals of the bible we would be eating each other. Why is it that "non believers " understand the bible better than "believers" do? These people really give me the vibe that they are selling something I'm not interested in wasting anymore of my time and reasources on.

  • @bt3750
    @bt375018 күн бұрын

    If you agree that morality exists (which I think it does) then it is either innate to us or from a God. Either way morality exists, thus, atheists can be moral.

  • @georgegordner7795
    @georgegordner779521 күн бұрын

  • @ThroneofDavid8
    @ThroneofDavid821 күн бұрын

    The reach and influence of Jesus Christ should be impressive.

  • @linuxramblingproductions8554

    @linuxramblingproductions8554

    15 күн бұрын

    I mean ideas spread so what? Its a similar story with islam although somewhat less so but islam has a much more dedicated fanbase

  • @ThroneofDavid8

    @ThroneofDavid8

    15 күн бұрын

    @@linuxramblingproductions8554 I assume that it's hard for you to tell the difference between Muhammad and Jesus Christ.

  • @linuxramblingproductions8554

    @linuxramblingproductions8554

    15 күн бұрын

    @@ThroneofDavid8 no not really im just pointing out a similarity the popularity of an idea doesn’t really mean anything substantive other then lots of people believe X. For a long time the reach and influence of a flat earth would be impressive or whatever but that doesn’t matter since it isn’t true

  • @ThroneofDavid8

    @ThroneofDavid8

    15 күн бұрын

    @@linuxramblingproductions8554 What has the most meaning in atheism?

  • @linuxramblingproductions8554

    @linuxramblingproductions8554

    15 күн бұрын

    @@ThroneofDavid8 thats like saying what has the most meaning to chairs your question is invalid because atheism says nothing about meaning or anything of that sort simply an individual belief a person could have which is not believing in a god or gods. Plus it isn’t atheism or islam or christianity it’s the thousands of ideas of gods and they are all mutually exclusive and they could be all wrong but can’t be all right.

  • @Shannon-ij1pm
    @Shannon-ij1pm21 күн бұрын

    Andrew likes to think he is intellectually deep. But the the island story makes an illogical leap. If you aren't killed because the natives say it is against their religion doesn't mean that god saved you. Andrew assumes that the natives religion is based around a deity, like a god or allah. But what if the natives worship the sun or trees or mother earth? Did god save you then? It doesn't logically follow.

  • @carefree4271
    @carefree427119 күн бұрын

    W

  • @PatrickWDunne
    @PatrickWDunne21 күн бұрын

    Andrew Tate's apologetics are so awful. How does anyone fall for this?

  • @johnnycastellanetta7183

    @johnnycastellanetta7183

    21 күн бұрын

    Teenage males, suffering from lack of exposure to more mature ideas.

  • @PatrickWDunne

    @PatrickWDunne

    21 күн бұрын

    @@johnnycastellanetta7183 True. I was religious when I was younger, but the more I grew older, the further I grew from religion.

  • @johnnycastellanetta7183

    @johnnycastellanetta7183

    21 күн бұрын

    @@PatrickWDunne Indoctrination is a hell of a drug. Hard to give up ideas when they're forced upon the young. I think apologetics in general are mostly awful!

  • @reallynotsafe
    @reallynotsafe14 күн бұрын

    ahh man, he's doing this cause religious peoples will give sympathy!

  • @Scorned405
    @Scorned40521 күн бұрын

    You can tell Andrew Tate is right wing as hell

  • @JustReed

    @JustReed

    21 күн бұрын

    Christian nationalist.

  • @flyingpuma9729

    @flyingpuma9729

    13 күн бұрын

    Nothing wrong with right wing.

  • @tahazaidomar1749
    @tahazaidomar174921 күн бұрын

    However that inherent moral sense that we are all born with came from God in the first place do you not reason we are all born with the natural fitrah or inherent baseline morality and natural disposition to seek God and get to know him and worship him and him alone we all have that spark within us.

  • @linuxramblingproductions8554

    @linuxramblingproductions8554

    15 күн бұрын

    People believed in fairys and zeus i don’t see a natural disposition to god. Although its hard to understand you since thats a massive run on with no punctuation and lots of negatives

  • @rimbusjift7575
    @rimbusjift757521 күн бұрын

    Tf is morali'y?

  • @JustReed
    @JustReed21 күн бұрын

    He's using Demons and Devils to defend his moral argument? That is so lame and childish, to keep blaming Demons and Devils for one's cause. Always putting the blame on something you CAN'T POROVE. Whomever this guy is, addressing his moral argument, is like trying to debate why Kermit and Ms. Piggy couldn't quite get along with each other. Leave that for the kids watching to figure that out. (Childish) Religion/Christian has not one leg to stand on when it comes to defending the moral argument in favor of their God and their faith. Christian fundamentalist still can't explain/defend John 14:12-14 "He who believes in me..." Not a single Christian has what it takes to walk the walk, but they love to talk.

  • @eliasgotzfried1131
    @eliasgotzfried113121 күн бұрын

    he converts to Islam wearing a (rose) Gold watch which is illegal in Islam

  • @DisposableSupervillainHenchman

    @DisposableSupervillainHenchman

    21 күн бұрын

    That’s a very specific edict of the religion. Can’t wear a rose gold watch? What a silly belief.

  • @eliasgotzfried1131

    @eliasgotzfried1131

    21 күн бұрын

    @@DisposableSupervillainHenchman well not that im an expert on muslim teachings, but men shall not wear any gold at all in islam i think, But yes i think its rather ridiculous to forbid gold to men

  • @DisposableSupervillainHenchman

    @DisposableSupervillainHenchman

    21 күн бұрын

    @@eliasgotzfried1131 Gotta love when specific preferences leak into a religion and watch as they try their hardest to spin it into some moral precept.

  • @eliasgotzfried1131

    @eliasgotzfried1131

    21 күн бұрын

    @@DisposableSupervillainHenchman its always cherry picking with religion although he claims to follow the teaching of islam which he obviously does not.

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