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@corynelson7058

3 жыл бұрын

Best King's List!!! Please make that bro, you do a great job!

@RESIST_THE_GREAT_REPLACEMENT

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine Trump-bashing on a video about a fantasy story. That’s honestly pathetic.

@shannond7437

3 жыл бұрын

From your phrasing, I feel like you are team Greens in the wars to come on House of the Dragon. Is this mostly true?

@shannond7437

3 жыл бұрын

@@RESIST_THE_GREAT_REPLACEMENT Sweet summer child, the author uses real events, characterizations, etc for his inspirations. It’s actually pathetic that you don’t see how spot on this Drumph reference truly is.

@Slender_Man_186

2 жыл бұрын

@@shannond7437 uh huh, how are you liking the new wars, failing economy, skyrocketing inflation, prices, national debt, rapidly increasing government oversight, and outright treachery by our own politicians?

Joffrey isn’t just born to twins he’s born to twins with cousin parents

@TK-wk6xd

3 жыл бұрын

And if he's any more inbred he'd be a sandwich

@raffaelepiccini3405

3 жыл бұрын

The fact that his parents are twins is irrelevant, it wouldn't be any different if they were siblings

@diarradunlap9337

3 жыл бұрын

@@TK-wk6xd 🤨🤔😏😆

@raffaelepiccini3405

3 жыл бұрын

@Geoffrey Wakeley no it isn't, genetically two heterozygote twins are identical to normal sibling, it would be different if they were homozygous (identical twins), but then they would be the same sex, so they could never have children together.. so genetically there is no difference if they are twins or normal siblings

@raffaelepiccini3405

3 жыл бұрын

​@Geoffrey Wakeley really? I never heard of something like that.. I don't understand how that could happen, as monozygotic twins share 100% of the DNA, which include the xy xx chromosome pair which determines sex at birth.. i could be wrong tho i am not a biologist.. so yea if you had to monozygotic twins with different sexes then yea it would be worst if they had a kid, but for any normal twin, it wold be identical to a normal sibling (on average)..

Joffery would've been worse than Aerys II, feels like the only reason he's placed lower is only because he happened to die before he got worse but he always had potential to be crueler than Aerys II. At least one of them wasn't born crazy since Aerys II slowly descended into madness while Joffery showed signs of a psychopath from the start.

@gfilmer7150

2 жыл бұрын

He could've been a mix of Aerys II and Maegor "The Cruel" if he grew up and ruled Westeros without Tywin as a babysitter. He might've ended up like the real life King Edward II of England or Richard II of England or Charles I of England and Scotland. At that point, the entire continent would've risen up against Joffrey and The Lannister-Tyrell Alliance.

@durrangodsgrief6503

2 жыл бұрын

@@gfilmer7150 he would me nothing like Margot who's cruelty was necessity to keep his family in control Joffrey is cruel for cruelty sake

@gfilmer7150

2 жыл бұрын

@@durrangodsgrief6503 Still a tyrant who looses everything by going too far

@stephaniemomma

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Had Joffrey lived, he would have been much crueler, considering he was 🔪 pregnant cats open to see if there were really kittens in there.

@stephaniemomma

2 жыл бұрын

@@sudanemamimikiki1527 13:38

Funny thing is is that Robert was the best king in the whole of the shows run.

@King_Mac80

3 жыл бұрын

Jon Snow*

@JoshuaHenelyThornhill

3 жыл бұрын

@GOD i choked ! Good one !

@dmurphy915

3 жыл бұрын

Mance was a great king, it should count

@SaltoDaKid

3 жыл бұрын

@@dmurphy915 you mean Rhaegar

@aegontargaryen9322

3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha , so true

"Just got the job done and croaked." I want that on my tombstone. 😂

@champ1159

3 жыл бұрын

Me too😂

@faisalkamal4319

2 жыл бұрын

My life story

From seeing him in the show, Robert Baratheon just came across as tragic and stuck in the past. His dialogue always had mention of times gone, the good ol' days. Past battles, growing up in the Eyrie with Ned and Jon Arryn, his many sexual conquests, and Lyana Stark. He never focused on what was happening around him, and the only current event he paid any attention to was Daenerys's status due to his hatred for the Targaryens after Rhaegar's deeds. Additionally, Robert was a great warrior, but what's the warrior to do when there's no more battles to be fought? A great warrior, a good friend, in different circumstances, perhaps a better husband and father, but he could never let go of the past.

@CCEkeke

Жыл бұрын

Robert was like that guy who peaks in high school as the popular quarterback that wins the state championship, but never amounts to more than that. So he's stuck in the past wanting to relive his greatest hits instead of moving forward.

My heart goes out to Aenys. He was a great man who could never bring himself to be a great king.

@leanderschmidt1796

2 жыл бұрын

Even got compared to prince Andrew. Which didnt aged too well 👀

@bluevioletandlilac

Жыл бұрын

His name was holding him back.

@JB-xl2jc

Жыл бұрын

@@bluevioletandlilac They hate us cause they Aenys.

U should do best or worst hands of the king, or most influential people from the small councill

@bakthihapuarachchi3447

3 жыл бұрын

The Hightower hand of king Viserys would probably be number 1

@constantine9142

3 жыл бұрын

The best would be king jaeharys imo other than aegon the conquer. But aegon didn't really do anything but unite the seven kingdoms which does create peace after killing all the trouble makers but damn what a steep price when you think about it. But jaeharys and aegon before aerys were my top 2 best Kings of westeros.

@bakthihapuarachchi3447

3 жыл бұрын

@@constantine9142 he's talking about the hand of the kings

@constantine9142

3 жыл бұрын

@@bakthihapuarachchi3447 oh crap my bad! Lol Well that's way harder and complicated but I'm sure one day that Martin will give a detailed list of everyone with rumors. Lol

@bakthihapuarachchi3447

3 жыл бұрын

@@constantine9142 no problem dude lol

Robert is always portrayed as a bad king but his reign was actually really peaceful and relatively prosper

@SantomPh

Жыл бұрын

That would have been Jon Arryn's doing, Robert only ever attended 3 small council meetings in 17 years

@Leo-dt5ic

Жыл бұрын

@@SantomPh based

@AsIfItNeverWas

Жыл бұрын

@@SantomPh yeah, he was smart enough to let more competent people rule for him. More than what could be said about a lot of other kings.

@CatotheE

11 ай бұрын

@@SantomPh You mean like Aegon I?

@LalaLa-ze7kv

Ай бұрын

King is as good as the realm after his death. It's his notgivingashit attitude that is directly responsible for the WOF5K

I actually think Viserys I was the one most at blame for the dance with dragons He himself was “elected” king by a decision that completely invalidated feminine lines in succession. He knew having Rhaenyra as heir would cause a war and yet did nothing to prevent it

@TheGoodLuc

Жыл бұрын

Especially in the show. How about Aemond's eye, e.g.?

@saief3213

Жыл бұрын

It’s not his fault that he got elected king.

@BruceWayne-fj9bm

Жыл бұрын

Nah.

@jpruedag

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGoodLuc Oh, so Rhaneyra shouldn't be queen because her half-brother tried to kill her eldest son, but her youngest son prevented it by taking his eye out?

@TheGoodLuc

Жыл бұрын

@@jpruedag Rhaenyra's... difficult. On the one hand I see no problem as long as a person is capable. On the other, Viserys went against "man the preferable gender for throne" custom, and Rhaenyra birthed bastards.

I always think of King Aerys as this old ass dude, but no he was 40! That's nutty actually

@godemperorofmankind3.091

3 жыл бұрын

i think he just looked older because he was crazy. long wild silver hair which looks white. long messy beard. long nails

@ssjdeadpool

3 жыл бұрын

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 that's: the whole point

@SaltoDaKid

3 жыл бұрын

He aged very fast in short time his twenty he was peaceful but then went insane out of no where

@ssjdeadpool

3 жыл бұрын

@@SaltoDaKid yes, I know, that's part of the point I was trying to make, and he says it right in the video

Robert was far from being among the worst kings

@godemperorofmankind3.091

3 жыл бұрын

perhaps not but his failings as a king created a gigantic civil war the moment he died. it seemed peaceful but it was a powder keg waiting to go off

@stefanozucchelli5410

3 жыл бұрын

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 The same happened after Viserys I's death with the war between Greens and Blacks but he was a good king. Doesn't matter if a king is good or bad after his death there will always be some conflict for the crown.

@godemperorofmankind3.091

3 жыл бұрын

@@stefanozucchelli5410 Viserys told them who his heir was and they pettily didn't listen for one reason or another. the Dance came down to what was essentially sexism. but Robert was genuinely a bad husband and father, resulting in a bad heir and his wife getting too much power. it does matter alot of the time. no strong heir can mean chaos.

@khaleddoudechnumber1473

3 жыл бұрын

Bad king doesn't necessarily mean cruel or mad king

@akutz4725

3 жыл бұрын

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 its obvious you didn't read the book well it wasn't just based on sexism just the lust for power Viserys bypassed the rule of succession by making his daughter his heir not knowing if he would ever have another child

looking forward to the best kings

@AstroSully

3 жыл бұрын

Jaehaerys

@loki2240

3 жыл бұрын

Hard to beat King James, with his 4 NBA championships, 4 Finals MVP titles, and 4 NBA MVP titles.

@alessandrograssi9310

3 жыл бұрын

Jaeherys surely

@Overkill233

3 жыл бұрын

@@AstroSully he's the conciliator right and Aegon V "The Unlikely" (or was it the Vi? I forget)

@aarondemiri486

3 жыл бұрын

@@alessandrograssi9310 jaeherys would certainly be number one how would you list the best kings?

Look man Robert was not a bad king at least in the eyes of the smallfolk just because he slept around doesn't make him a bad King.

@King_Mac80

3 жыл бұрын

He did put the crown in debt

@fanelemabaso2514

3 жыл бұрын

@@King_Mac80 that still doesnt make him a bad king. His reign was that of peace and prosperity. Smallfolk were at peace.

@alexturlais8558

3 жыл бұрын

@@King_Mac80 so do most modern politicians. He provided a lot of stability and entertainment, was willing to forgive his enemies and it seemed like a decent reign.

@TK-wk6xd

3 жыл бұрын

@@King_Mac80 that was littlefinger

@King_Mac80

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexturlais8558 most modern politicians do not put their country in debt, owing money and not being able to pay back money are two completely different things. Robert owed the Iron Bank millions and had to turn to his father in law for money.

Just a nerdy fyi: "Twin" siblings that contain one male and one female can never be genetically "identical". Identical twins come from one sperm and one egg that split into two separate individuals early on in the pregnancy and are always the same sex because of that. Fraternal twins are from two eggs, one egg each, so they are basically siblings that just happened to share their mother's womb at the same time. They are no more genetically identical than you and your older/younger brother/sister if you have one that you share the same two parents with. Not making ANY excuses for the Lannisters, but just some info if anyone is interested :) thanks for the great video!

@fanelemabaso2514

3 жыл бұрын

Why are you defending incest

@V-is4Val

3 жыл бұрын

@@fanelemabaso2514 I'm literally not, I'm just tired of people saying Jaime and Cersei are especially bad because they're twins when really they genetically aren't. This entire series revolves around incest, chill, I'm not defending it, just educating people if they even care. If not, cool.

@ragingzim

2 жыл бұрын

@@fanelemabaso2514 how is that your take away?

@fightingmedialounge519

11 ай бұрын

​@@V-is4Val their reffred to as twins in story. In a modern sense they might not be, but that's not particularly relevant.

@V-is4Val

11 ай бұрын

@fightingmedialounge519 very true and good point, just a factoid for fellow dorks like myself 🤓

I don’t think Robert was a bad king. I mean, he held the kingdoms together for 14 years, put down the Greyjoy rebellion and had possibly the two best hands of the kings, Jon Aryn and Ned Stark. He was also decisive when he needed to be. Capable of making hard decisions. But also capable of compromising like what he did with the Greyjoys and Lannister‘s. I would say he could’ve possibly been the best king the seven kingdoms have ever seen if he married Lyanna Stark and didn’t become a fat and depressed alcoholic.

@coldhands2802

2 жыл бұрын

Jon Arryn was a TERRIBLE hand and was probably corrupt. The order of the green hand did a series on this, check it out.

@jdfigs5916

Жыл бұрын

That was mostly do to Jon Arryn not Robert all he did was drink and party

@lionessrick9560

Жыл бұрын

@@jdfigs5916 Still, there's something to be said about a king who has the wisdom to allow someone more capable to make their decisions for them. Most would've been too prideful for that. Not saying Robert was a good king, but could've been wayyy worse, and he had good taste when it came to his hands.

@constantconfusion9238

Жыл бұрын

@@lionessrick9560 True but he was spending too much money and Littlefinger "Chaos is ladder" took out loans in crowns name. In that he didn't listen to advices. Also if he tried to be little kinder to Cersei then who knows, she might not have become so bitter and everything could have been different. No incest kids, no death of Jon Arryn, Robert would have lived longer and no Joffrey cutting off Stark heads.

@domskillet5744

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree. I'd say he falls in the "mediocre" category Whether you rank based on personality, state of the kingdoms during rule, or ability to make difficult decisions, Robert isn't in the bottom 5 in any category. For the first ranking, Robert is a better person than Aegon IV, Aerys II, Maegor, Joffrey, Aegon II/Rhaenyra For the second ranking, Robert is actually probably a top 4 king (after Jaeherys, Daeron II, and Aegon I) For the third, Robert falls somewhere in the middle of the pack

Aegon Originally refused the crown, until his mother reminded him that his sister would reward him for his loyalty by removing his head. He was relatively sane after that until Sunfyre crashed in battle with Melys.

@brigidmadden5577

Жыл бұрын

In fairness Alicent may have been projecting her hang ups onto Aegon as they had a terrible relationship. So it was less reminding and more implanting an idea

@iCarlyBitch

Жыл бұрын

@@brigidmadden5577 that’s entirely possible but given what we know so far I don’t think there’s a scenario in which she keeps a possible male alternative to her reign alive

@donvalladares6930

Жыл бұрын

Did Aegon go into battle or did hide in the castle

@brigidmadden5577

Жыл бұрын

@@donvalladares6930 apparently he went into a battle early on…and burned half his damn face off. He was basically a shambling lump of flesh for the rest of the war

@webausay

Жыл бұрын

@@donvalladares6930 he flew on dragonback a couple times until Meleys crippled him for life. According to fire and blood, his armor was melted into the flesh of his right arm, and he was never strong enough to climb the steps of the iron throne after that.

Honestly speaking, Robert Baratheon wasn't a worst king

@denisdiderot6779

3 жыл бұрын

@Florys the Fox I disagree, if Robert actually engaged in the politics that he was shunning then Cersei would never have gotten away with passing abominations as his children and save the realm from a potential civil war. It was this truth that had his adopted father and Ned Stark, his best friend, killed. Robert's negligence is entirely responsible for the state of Westoros.

@MusaMansu

3 жыл бұрын

@@denisdiderot6779 No. Cerseis responsible for that. If he’d married almost anyone else he’d have lived longer and had trueborn children.

@TK-wk6xd

3 жыл бұрын

@@denisdiderot6779 Cersei would cheat on Robert anyway

@emilybarclay8831

3 жыл бұрын

@D D he certainly wasn’t anywhere near great, but he wasn’t bad. He was functional or at least had functional help, and didn’t do anything outright evil or cruel apart from the baby murder

@vrehse7037

3 жыл бұрын

But his neglect lead to the the "current" events

Robert doesn’t deserve to be on this list. Robert knew his failings as a king and employed skilled, able people to counteract his shortcomings. He was also an inspirational and loved ruler, with great lords revering him and the smallfolk deifying him, he was the Great Stag, the Demon of the Trident, and he was the rightful king. His two failings at ruling: 1. Plunging the realm into debt, 2. Not knowing his children were incestuous bastards, Were not HIS fault. Littlefinger is a man who is nearly magical with his ability to summon coin, and Aerys left the coffers of the Red Keep overflowing. The issue isn’t Robert’s spending, it’s Littlefinger’s scheming and debt scandals. He invested the money to make himself personally richer and actively sought to sew chaos into the realm. This was known to NO ONE, and it isn’t Robert’s, but Littlefingers, to keep track of finances, especially in an economically and agriculturally prosperous and wealthy period. The bastards, you could argue, were a severe oversight. But, then again, that was an issue with his councillors. If Jon Arryn, Stannis Baratheon, or Ned Stark simply told Robert, the issue would be resolved. Gruesomely? Probably. But the issue wasn’t with Robert, but with his advisors. Under Robert Baratheon, there was over a decade of peace and plenty in the realm, and while he is nowhere near as diligent a king as Jaehaerys I, and definitely had severe and glaring shortcomings, he does not deserve to be put with the likes of Maegor and Aerys.

@godemperorofmankind3.091

3 жыл бұрын

yes but those failings were disastrous. ruined all the short term gains he made when he took the throne. how exactly was it not his fault he was a shitty husband and father? thats most certainly his fault. he should have been able to see Cersei's evil and take steps to deal with it instead of shutting off his senses and mind to drink and whoring. people loved robert but for all the wrong reasons (him being friendly to fellow warriors and hunters, being a famous fighter and commander and conqueror, good looking in his youth). not for the actual reasons you should love a king. the "peace" you speak of? a powder keg just waiting for his death to explode everything into disaster. i do agree the WOFK is the fault of many other figures like Cersei and Baelish but Robert's flaws as a king, husband and father contributed as well.

@Brandonhayhew

3 жыл бұрын

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 even if King Robert had another wife then cersei. The result is still be the same disastrous the whole united kingdoms would fall the massive debts and littlefingers scams or corruption. Varys secret support. King robert is nothing but a man whose a soldier but he was too dumb as a politician. Your totally right robert still be a failure of both in king and husband to wife and father to his own children

@MusaMansu

3 жыл бұрын

@@Brandonhayhew Theres literally no evidence of that. Cersei is primarily to blame for their failed marriage since she never even tried. "My late husband loved the forest too." In the early years of their marriage, Robert was forever imploring her to hunt with him, but Cersei had always begged off. His hunting trips allowed her time with Jaime. Golden days and silver nights. If Robert had married someone normal, he wouldn’t have been murdered and he’d have normal kids. Cersei says that Robert tried to talk to his not son, Joffrey. If Robert had married Delena Florent and had Edric Baratheon as his heir, the civil war wouldn’t have happened.

@Brandonhayhew

3 жыл бұрын

@@MusaMansu still in debts I forgot how much money does Robert owe to the bank and the faith. Tywin he owes 50% of the debts

@Brandonhayhew

3 жыл бұрын

@@MusaMansu Robert still cheat but good thing he still has a heir son edric at least.

Im honestly surprised Joffrey wasnt lower. He only reigned for 2 years but managed to cause a civil war and divide the realm in that time (something it took Aegon IV 12 years to do). The only reason things under Joffrey werent an even bigger disaster than they already were for the realm was because Tywin was there as a babysitter. Without Tywin, he'd be a mix of Aerys II and Maegor

@jakealter5504

Жыл бұрын

Meh, it took Aegon II around a few days for the dance of the dragons to start

@redtube8667

4 күн бұрын

Tbf he didn't really cause the civil war, that was Ned calling his legitimacy into question in the method most likely to start a war

@redtube8667

4 күн бұрын

​@@jakealter5504 Aegon calling himself king was a declaration of war my guy

@jakealter5504

4 күн бұрын

@@redtube8667 true but hostilities didn’t truly break out until lucerys was killed by Aemond

@redtube8667

4 күн бұрын

@@jakealter5504 that also wasn't on Aegon though, that was a pissed off Aemond doing whatever he wanted

Who else thinks he should make a video about Best hands of the king??

@nightfall3332

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely.

@matheusdemiranda9934

3 жыл бұрын

and the worst hands of the king

@emildon

3 жыл бұрын

Septon Barth is the best

Roberts 15 year reign is considered golden age of realm I would say that robert was very average king with great hand sometimes hand is more important

@godemperorofmankind3.091

3 жыл бұрын

the realm was in major debt. also you may say that but it was all set up to collapse into total chaos the second he died.

@antonyli5675

3 жыл бұрын

You do realize that’s just the maester using propaganda right? In order to paint the new baratheon dynasty in a greater light, his reign of average at best.

I loved the video man ! It’s always amazing to get some content from you. Looking forward for the best kings. It’s gonna way more challenging!

I like the idea that you can tell how popular a king was by how often his name is used afterwards. This is very true of British monarchy: After Richard III, (twisted nephew murdering usurper) no more king Richards Henry, very popular name, until Henry VIII (six wives; divorced, beheaded, died, divorced beheaded, survived) then no more king Henry's George - very popular, have gone up to George VI, and, should Charles ever become king, he may rather be known as George VII rather than Charles III (considering what happened to Charles I). King John I - Only one King has ever had the name John in the whole of British monarchy, which tells you how popular King John was, and how bad a job he did.

@sebastianpijov8708

2 ай бұрын

And the name William stopped being used for nearly 700 years.

I personally that Tywin was aware of an assassination attempt on Joffrey and did nothing to stop it. He was 13, only wore a crown for a year and he already saw Aerys in him. He starts a war with the North by killing his valuable hostage, starts a riot in KL (even firing arrows at beggars on the streets for target practice) and even wanted to execute the riverlords after they already yielded. Seeing that Tommen would be much easier to control, he just let the killers do their thing.

The only thing I'd disagree on is Robert being worse than Joffrey. Joffrey literally started a war for no reason. Sure the war would have happened with Stannis but the Northern rebellion could have been stopped among other things.

@OK-yy6qz

Жыл бұрын

If Joffrey wasn't a maniac the war wouldn't have happened at all. Stannis only wanted the throne because he wanted what was best for the kingdom

@jakealter5504

Жыл бұрын

@@OK-yy6qz he still would’ve had to fight Renly

@OK-yy6qz

Жыл бұрын

@@jakealter5504 Renly only had an army because of the Tyrels. The Tyrels wouldn't back him if the Kingdom was in peace instead of the chaos it had during the war of the 5 Kings.

@jakealter5504

Жыл бұрын

@@OK-yy6qz true

your ASOIAF content is so good, thanks for so many uploads!!

Aegon made and kneaded the dough, Aenys did nothing, Maegor baked the bread and Jaehaerys ate it.

Robert knew he was an incompetent king, and he let everything to Arryn, that tells me that he was not a bad king,he just didn't give a fuck hahahaha

@IzabellaRequiem

Жыл бұрын

so horrible

@DarkLord111111111111

Жыл бұрын

Not giving a fuck makes you a bad king

Kinda missing Baelor the Blessed on this list. Dude locked his sisters up for years

@akutz4725

3 жыл бұрын

How does that make him a bad king?

@bhuvanfafnir3634

3 жыл бұрын

true he was a psychopath seems like . he was so into religion that he died fasting for the Seven

@champ1159

3 жыл бұрын

But he was awesome tho other than the fasting and locking his sisters up

@champ1159

3 жыл бұрын

@aaron guest I know but the lengths he would go to to help people is why I like him

@champ1159

3 жыл бұрын

@aaron guest yeah he was

I love your videos, only thing keeping me alive from this online school life

I always feel sorry for Aenys. P.S. It's strange that there aren't that many Targaryens called "Jaeherys". P.P.S. Robert looks like a LOTR dwarf in the little image used of him 🧔

@ineednochannelyoutube2651

Жыл бұрын

There were a LOT of Jaeherys's that never became king. Only 2 survived to ascend the throne.

@made-line7627

Жыл бұрын

@@ineednochannelyoutube2651 Ah, ok. I can't even remember more than two, total (not just crowned). Who were they?

@SantomPh

Жыл бұрын

@@made-line7627 Spooler space There was Prince Jaehaerys , son of Aegon II and Haelena Targaryen (died), another Prince Jaehareys who died (Rheagar 's younger brother) as a child.

@made-line7627

Жыл бұрын

@@SantomPh Good point! Still, only two?!

@jakealter5504

Жыл бұрын

@@made-line7627 there’s Jaehaerys II

Also... Robert Baratheon was not a bad King. He married for the good of the realm, as Cersei Lannister was a great choice to keep the crown financially viable. Second, he understood that conquering was what he was good at, however ruling was not to his liking or skill set. So he gave most of the important decision making to Jon Aryn. Most shitty kings would not be willing to admit such a shortcoming. Think of how peaceful his reign was. Only one rebellion, that was crushed, and really had nothing to do with him. The Greyjoy’s would’ve rebelled anyways.

@elisawilde8623

Жыл бұрын

He literally bankrupted the realm so that he could have lavish feasts and tourneys, so maybe not?

@No-ik5nj

Жыл бұрын

​@@elisawilde8623 still better than most of those Lizard king's

@jakealter5504

9 ай бұрын

@@Insider887he was also better than Aegon II

Maegor kinda reminds me of Ivan the terrible. A king whose mind was savy enough to know what should have been done but too ruthless to be subtle

@twilightpheonix123

Жыл бұрын

Maegor was based on Ivan the Terrible

Another awesome video about the history. Appreciate your work so much.

Great video! Love the examination of power and corruption.

That’s not quite true- there was a single namesake for each, Aenys & Maegor; before Aegon V acceded to the throne, there was debate over if someone ‘raised half-a-peasant’ as the lords derisively claimed ‘Egg’ was- serving as the squire of a hedge knight, should become king - & this was when Maester Aemon was quietly offered but refused the throne, & around the same time, a Blackfyre claimant named Aenys put himself forward- hoping to claim by peaceful means, what his forebears hadn’t in war. And Aemon & Aegon V had a hated brother Aerion (definitely one the most psychotic of the Targs) who named his child Maegor. When there was a succession crisis, young Maegor was briefly considered but just as quickly dismissed- because they feared, he could inherit his father’s madness (& also his youth would have meant a long regency)...

Loved this think you should do one about all the kings of the north

Here's an Idea, make a video of some of the bestest baddest knights and fighters the WOIAF has ever had. If you don't include Ryam Redwine I will curse you.

@meloderieugif2294

3 жыл бұрын

I second that

@carlitoking8473

3 жыл бұрын

Cregan Stark gets my vote

@philippeblais8594

3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean baddest like "Badass" or baddest like "bad"? Cause if it's the former. I say Barristan Selmy, Arthur Dayne, Duncan the Tall and Aemon the Dragon Knight definitely deserve a spot on that list.

@nightfall3332

3 жыл бұрын

Artos Stark.

@jakealter5504

Жыл бұрын

@@philippeblais8594 as would Jaime

Here's my question- WHAT SHOULD RHAENYRA HAVE DONE? I don't think she was wrong for fighting for the throne that was rightfully hers, although I do agree that her participation in the Dance of Dragons makes her just has responsible for the deaths of the common folk, and near-extinction of Dragons. #Blacks

@katsy0c0

3 жыл бұрын

Agreeeeeed

@bridgetbrennan6615

Жыл бұрын

She was justified. I mean, she was the NAMED heir. A lot could have been avoided had Aegon allowed her to take the throne.

@benhayfield6182

Жыл бұрын

​@@bridgetbrennan6615 yer they really should have had the lords re take their vows to support her as the heir once agon 2 was born, vaseries dropped the ball there

@Chadius_Thundercock

Жыл бұрын

This is the same dumbass that called maegor a psycho for killing the people in the sept when they starting get weapons to rebel

@constantconfusion9238

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. What kind of man and a king would Aegon II be when he was ready to disobey his fathers wishes and steal the crown from his sister while his fathers corpse was rotting in its bed. Yeah it takes two to really fight but you can get beaten to sh*t if you don't to fight back. In the story princess and queen, it was told that the first person to die in dance of the dragons was some lord who refused to support Aegon and got killed immediately. And it was mostly gathering allies and sending messages before Aemond, Aegon's younger brother, killed Rhaenyra's son when they went to negotiate with the same lord. I wouldn't bend the knee to a man who disobeyd his father, stole from his sister and whose actions led to your son, his nephew, being killed by his other uncle. I just recently read that short story "princess and the queen" (or smth I don't remember exact name) and boy do I have some feelings about it.

Also I think you might have been a little bit too harsh to good ol' Bobby B. Sure, he may not have been the best fit to rule, but the realm was largely peaceful under his rule, or at least John Arryn's rule. There was the ironborn rebellion, but I mean, that wasn't so much to do with Robert's rule as it was with the ironborn being the ironborn.

Aenys is just Edward ii 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ Maegor was a monster, but he saved their dynasty from being just a bad memory. The red keep thing was kinda understandable, the faith murdered on of their best septon healers just for associating with the Targs. Imagine they would do to the common folks who built their fortress. They would have certainly tortured and killed him and his kin

@domskillet5744

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think Maegor gets a worse rep than he deserves. He's a terrible person, but accomplished a lot and was a necessary evil to dig Westeros out of the hole Aenys put them in.

@shizachan8421

Жыл бұрын

@@domskillet5744 I think being a competent monster doesn't makes you less of a monster. Euron Greyjoy is fairly competent in everything he does, but I think nobody denies him being pure evil.

@domskillet5744

Жыл бұрын

@@shizachan8421 Yes, but we aren't ranking based solely on personality or intention. It's based on a combination of factors, including personality, effectiveness as a ruler, impact on the dynasty, and impact on the common people. Without a ruler that inspired absolute fear from everyone in the kingdoms following Aenys, the Targaryan dynasty stood no chance. Aenys almost singlehandedly destroyed the dynasty, which would've sent the country into chaos and destroyed stability for the common people, and Maegor's ruthlessness was the only thing that kept the Targaryans in power, which in turn brings some stability into the realm. Of course, they still may have been overthrown a decade later if anyone other than Jaeherys became king, but Maegor saved the dynasty from utter annihilation during his time as king. When ranking the "best" and "worst" rulers, that has to count a good deal.

best GoT content on this channel ! kudos

@champ1159

3 жыл бұрын

yup

I love your videos

Robert shouldn’t be on the list. Your way too harsh on him. The numbers don’t really add up. Yeah he had tourneys but the ones we’re told about doesn’t seem like it’s 10 a year. He only seems to do it on his eldest sons name day. Even if it was all his children and were as extravagant as Ned’s was, you don’t get even half of the 6,000,000 gold dragons. Petyr is definitely fudging the numbers.

@thetalesofelbek7042

3 жыл бұрын

no he is one of the worst

@CatotheE

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetalesofelbek7042 nah.

I resent the fact that Robby B is on this list lol

@JayCity10

3 жыл бұрын

He's an idiot for mentioning Presendent Trump, much less Robert Baretheon. He was an awesome king.

@theautomator8372

3 жыл бұрын

@@JayCity10 yeah he hit his wife, cheated on her, drank and whored constantly, bankrupted the realm with his massive spending was neglectful of his "children", hated his brother, ordered the death of children, never punished anyone for horrendous acts, never ruled and let other people do the work, ignornant of his wife, and allowed corruption to fester. What an awesome king.

@JayCity10

3 жыл бұрын

@@theautomator8372 I loved how you zoned into the wife aspect. The wife being Cersei, who was one of the most horrid creatures ever in Westoros. With respect to his siblings, it happens. You can fall out of favor with them. He chose another brother in Ned, who was a good and capable person. I'm not saying Stannis or Renly wasn't. He also chose a competent hand in John Arynn before Ned. Let's he honest here, the king can't rule and do everything. Which is why he had a stable small council to handle important matters. He lived the ladies and the wine. I can't hold that agasont him. He lived the life of a king after all.

@theautomator8372

3 жыл бұрын

@@JayCity10 you ignored several point but what you said was true. He was far from the best but better then the worst.

@extraterrestrialhorse9722

3 жыл бұрын

@@theautomator8372 oh no, he hit Cersei 😱

I apologize for my comment yesterday. I love ASOIAF, I usually look into it to forget about the madness of the real world. Thank you for all your had work. I wish you the best in your work.

Rhaenyra is not considered by history and people of Westeros as queen, as her brother was crowned and assume the throne first, he is considered to rein during The Dance, at the end was still alive when she died, Aegon made sure that she was no more than a pretender, to commoners, septons and most important maesters. The true heir historywise to Viserys I Targaryen, is Aegon II Targaryen his first trueborn son.

@jakealter5504

Жыл бұрын

Viserys never changed who he had declared his heir and Aegon II usurped that heir

Daeron I should be one of the worst too tho he will be the least worst His conquest on Dorne caused a lot of deaths just for his ambition and lust for conquest.

@simbol5638

3 жыл бұрын

I was expecting him to be on the list too.

@antonyli5675

3 жыл бұрын

@@simbol5638 well it wasn’t like it wasn’t unjustified, House Martell broke the truce they made with Aegon the conqueror when they straight up attempted to invade the stormlands and destroy all there castles and slaughter their people, but they were easily destroyed and repelled by Jaehaerys the first and his sons, the Martells are serpents and even though daeron was an arrogant kid if he were allowed to grow up he probably would’ve been a great king as stated in a world of ice and fire, honestly the Martells and Targaryens did the same thing as they were all foreign invaders who conquered the realms and adopted their traditions.

Some kings in this story are monstrous. Rob just fucked. Getting your end away isnt the same as killing the men that built your castle or cutting your wifes heart out. That being said, great video as always

Wait Baelor the "blessed" didn't made into this list? 0o Also, useless idea, but it would be pretty neat to see a Florian Geyer kind of character in Westeros... 🤔

you should do a similar video to this but the BEST kings

uh oh, I saw donald trump. This comment section bouta be political

@Oleksandr.Derkach

3 жыл бұрын

I mean yeah, why the f he would bring up the politics of real world, that's so foolish

@larrywave

3 жыл бұрын

Where 🤔

@christopherevans2547

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what brought me to the comment section 🐸 ☕️

@khaleddoudechnumber1473

3 жыл бұрын

@@larrywave 6:10

@lukazz434

3 жыл бұрын

very bad move. Expected him to be a little more mature...

Damn...Joffrey got destroyed lmao

Yes do the best kings one. Love your videos

“It’s not like a bunch of civilians can do anything against a bunch of dragons anyway”. I guarantee you that’s NOT what Rhaenyra said. Gotta love when people throw in their personal feelings and end up wrong lol

@godemperorofmankind3.091

11 ай бұрын

Rhaenyra definitely believed that, until the people revolted and proved her wrong physically.

I would put balon in that list,the guy was a fanatic who was planning in pushing the north and the islands to the seven. Also Robert didnt bankruppt the realm,Littlefinger did,Robert shouldnt be in that list,he reigned over a 16 year long reign with just one major war that was localized in a single region and ended fairly quickly,daeron should take his place since he caused the death of 50000 people at least by conquering dorne and failing to hold it

Why did you put a picture of Donald trump up

@loucypherdamorningstar

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@zjboogie012

3 жыл бұрын

🤔

@chipkolat4055

3 жыл бұрын

because donald trump doesnt care about the common man.

@calumgreen3026

3 жыл бұрын

@@chipkolat4055 got any evidence of that

@dixienormus1838

3 жыл бұрын

@@chipkolat4055 Donald is Jesus

Great episode

I loved the prince andrew bit very good

But that trump shade sent me 💀

@JayCity10

3 жыл бұрын

The narrarator sounds like a crazed, liberal, lunatic. A beta-male, nothing more.

@loucypherdamorningstar

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@mylesstephens7791

3 жыл бұрын

@@JayCity10 oouuu the toxic alpha male approach. Must say I'm not impressed. It's funny because those types of individuals usually have limited education and care about compensating for their "lack of manhood"

I just feel pity for Aenys, really.

Careful with HOTD spoilers 3:55 to 6:45

Aerys: Mentally insanity Robert Baratheon: Economically crippling debt. What else is there I should know?

What about the blood raven (Brenden Rivers) ??.....you mentioned John Arryn .......you should have talked about the three eyed raven 🤓

I have become such a big fan of this channel.

@bemnet7149

3 жыл бұрын

U are not alone my friend

@champ1159

3 жыл бұрын

@@bemnet7149 I agree

If you were to rank the worst US President, I would strongly rank Woodrow Wilson as the worst. He started the Cold War with a hot one by mismanaging the Russian Intervention (1918-1920), he brought Jim Crow to the Federal Government, he gave rise to the 2nd KKK, he started domestic surveillance at its worst, he invaded Latin America for funsies, he instigated a wartime prohibition, despite fighting against the Prohibition movement, he established the Federal Reserve (it's terrible in practice), he perverted liberalism, and I think I could go on, but you get the idea.

@godemperorofmankind3.091

3 жыл бұрын

Andrew Jackson committed genocide

Omg there is such beautiful artwork for Asoiaf

Robert weren't good but not the worst. After season 8, we really should've listened Aerys II was the mad, but he wasn't the worst and that was only because Tywin was around

*born as bastard* *But was never a bastard* *Never wanted to become king* *But was made king* *Never wanted to kill Dany* *But was made to kill* *Never deserved to punished and* *sent to wall again* *But was punished and sent to wall again* *"A man like jon is born once in a thousand year"*

@adithyakuricheti1725

3 жыл бұрын

True

@mohdhassan7865

3 жыл бұрын

👍

@mohdhassan7865

3 жыл бұрын

@laura marrero fabian yes

@godemperorofmankind3.091

3 жыл бұрын

and all those decisions only made things worse. if he refused to be KITN, diplomacy would have been much easier with the other monarchs. if he refused to assassinate Daenerys, Arya would have done it herself, with plausible deniability. if he was never born to Lyanna, Lyanna might still be alive married to robert and the realm would be peaceful.

@mohdhassan7865

3 жыл бұрын

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 if he wasn't born from lyana GOT Would never happen

Who threw more feasts, Robert baratheon or King harlaus?

"Just got the job done and then croak." Sounds like a good ass king in my book. The phrase "may you live in interesting times" is a curse, not a blessing

My boy Big Bobby B was not a bad king. Not a good king perhaps, but the realm was at peace. Granted noone had the massive balls necessary to raise up against BBB🐗👑

@SaltoDaKid

3 жыл бұрын

The Iron Island did rebel and they easily got smack beside them it was most peacetime

@jbvo6037

3 жыл бұрын

@@SaltoDaKid always forget how retarded the iron born are lol

@Buddhistsocialist

3 жыл бұрын

Crown was in massive debt and he left the kingdom with a fucking powder keg

I can't be the only one who thinks Maegor didn't do anything wrong. He was being cruel because he had to.

@lennartherix6872

3 жыл бұрын

I also think his destruction of the faith militants was essential for Jaeherys later rule

@simbol5638

3 жыл бұрын

Killing his innocent nephews was bad. Expecially the squire he tormented to death

@ivonnegallegos58

Жыл бұрын

Yeah , I think the same, Aenys allowed too much chaos to spread throughout the realm, (although he did questionable things like the zillion wives and killing the constructors of the red keep) but he did what had to be done to avoid further wars, he walked so Jahaerys could run

@TheBrass18

6 ай бұрын

@@simbol5638he didn’t kill his nephew, they were at war fighting for the throne, if Maegor didn’t kill him, his nephew would have killed him.

Yooo she does perfect impressions I can’t!!

good Video! joffrey was indeed haunting if you ask me😬

U are the best bro, your videos are so informative

6:14 Orange man bad hahaha... So necessary in a GoT video 🤦🏼‍♂️ 🤦🏼‍♂️ 🤦🏼‍♂️

@thebestoneforreal3491

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@RESIST_THE_GREAT_REPLACEMENT

3 жыл бұрын

For real though. I’m trying to get away from politics and this moron has to shove his stupid opinion in here for no reason. Trump wasn’t even that bad, he was actually pretty good. I thought maybe people would’ve realized that by now, but I guess the liberal propaganda is too strong.

Watching this from the perspective of wat king house of the dragon, and I LOVE to see how aegon and rhaenyra are brought up lol

@godemperorofmankind3.091

11 ай бұрын

well this is based on hindsight, and none of the people in the main story really remember Aegon II or Rhaenyra fondly

Nice video, I would like to see a “best kings” list.

How dare you put Robert on that list, Gods he was strong once

@thegrimmarcher202

3 жыл бұрын

*once*

@opoziter2467

3 жыл бұрын

@@thegrimmarcher202 **joke**

#HOUSEOFTHEDRAGON!!!!

@ce666isa3

3 жыл бұрын

Cant wait

@atlascomicsceot7674

3 жыл бұрын

@@ce666isa3 Me too ,the new dragon designs look awesome!

@atlascomicsceot7674

3 жыл бұрын

#FIREANDBLOOD!!!!

I didn’t know that the dance of the dragons, and the extinction of the dragons, happened so soon after the conquest.

@florianberndt9763

Жыл бұрын

Same. Because of that I don't understand how the rule of the Targaryen could last so long. Are 130 years long enough to legitimate them more as ruler of westeros than one of the other houses that been there much longer before?

@mr.cookie4498

Жыл бұрын

@@florianberndt9763 yes

Nice vid

Listening to this after the 8th episode of House of the Dragon. SPOILERS!!!

I think Robert was the best king of them all. Yes he got the kingdom in a bet, but he was at least a respected battle comander and no one (except balon, but the greyjoys are lunatics) dared to go in open rebellion. In Aeny's case there were 5 rebellions in a period of 5 years.

@notnero5280

3 жыл бұрын

Plus there wasn't a ton of death and destruction under his rule.

@lhpkazuha

3 жыл бұрын

Jaehaerys I has entered the chat: “Say whattttt?”

Honestly surprised that joke about Andrew didn’t turn into a whole rant.

Nice Content.

Really had to throw trump in there? I watch these videos to get away from the real world and the media’s bs

@TheTennesseeFistMachine

Жыл бұрын

Trump is a nonce, and so are the you.

6:14 bruhhhh

Good work.

Argon 1 gave blackfyre to Maegor not his heir. Or at least Maegor was the one who wielded it. It didn’t begin to representative as The Prince of Dragonstone’s sword until Jarharys I think.

Robert worse than Joffery? I think not

@MusaMansu

3 жыл бұрын

Whoah. I haven’t watched it yet. He really said that? Yikes!

@TK-wk6xd

3 жыл бұрын

Joffrey didn't even rule the realm it was his mother and grandfather

@theautomator8372

3 жыл бұрын

The list is rated bad to worst. Joffery is ranked lower meaning he is worse.

The realm knew peace and tourneys under King Robert! Save the Greyjoy rebellion, but the I think the Ironborne needed a tug of the leash now and again.

@thetalesofelbek7042

3 жыл бұрын

no he is one of the worst

Do a Tier list !

I fucken died when you were talking about Aegon the 2nd and Rhaenyra, great video!

I do disagree with your jab at Trump, as it's not accurate when describing his presidency, nor character as a person, more so an app description of Obama or Bush. and mostly what a potential Bernie v Hillary presidential race would have looked like...just you know... fewer dragons lol. Nonetheless, I'm not trying to talk politics, just say I agree with your decision to put Robert as one of the worst kings. I think people just get so hung up on how he was characterized in mediums like the show that they forget just how bad he actually was.

@TheTennesseeFistMachine

Жыл бұрын

Trump is a nonce and so are you.

Another contender- Baelor the Blessed. He laid the foundations for the Blackfyre rebellions and worst of all, burned the works of Septon Barth, the best hand of the King to ever live.

@user-op6kt8pg9y

Жыл бұрын

There are still some books by septon barth left over at Castle black

That Prince Andrew reference 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Bro you’re really gonna get political with this video? I watch your stuff to get away from that not have someone bring it up every turn

@theautomator8372

3 жыл бұрын

He brought it up once and it was just an image and he didn't even eknowledge it. Calm yourself

@kevoojames4410

3 жыл бұрын

@@theautomator8372 I am calm. I could’ve cursed or even worse unsubb. Worry about yourself before you worry about someone else