I think that pilot's big problem is wanting to do something you can do rather than doing what you want. They couldn't use the trinity and they didn't have the budget so they ended up doing this strange, unmemorable thing. I think the Lois & Clark show suffered from a similar problem but they knew how to deal with it better.

@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259

5 ай бұрын

Lois and Clark was great

@muhraqa

5 ай бұрын

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259That series is very much a child of its time, but it has things that really work very well there.

@thepubknight6144

5 ай бұрын

I'm shocked Vee didn't Make a Crypt keeper reference with Atom

@jadenbryant9283

5 ай бұрын

agreed its basically like John Byrnes run meets The silver age

@Arrowslinger2

5 ай бұрын

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259not really

I actually rented this one at the local video store as a vhs. I thought it was a fever dream or knockoff movie for years and never realized it was a discarded pilot until I was an adult

@DanielAppleton-lr9eq

5 ай бұрын

It's worse than Roger Corman's Fantastic Four.

@chuckwoody335

5 ай бұрын

Dam is it really that bad?

@j.b.gruberiiiesq6582

5 ай бұрын

​@@chuckwoody335yes lol

@Awestefeld6612

5 ай бұрын

I owned it on VHS

You have to understand this was trying to be an adaptation of the Bwahaha JLI era of the Justice League, which was basically a sitcom in comic form.

@jadenbryant9283

5 ай бұрын

Although it's not even a good adaptation of that imo

@muhraqa

5 ай бұрын

The Giffen and Matteis era is very adored by old fans who saw it at the time but I think it's the last thing you want to see when it comes to seeing the JL in live action.

@adrianomoraes5992

5 ай бұрын

Yup. Beat me to it Ironically that phase of JL was slightly sitcom based so one would think it could be easily translated.

@mahatmarandy5977

5 ай бұрын

@@muhraqaheck, even the crossovers between that and the JLE didn’t work. Tonal differences between the generally funny JL and the not a damn bit funny JLE

I actually wouldn't mind a more "B-listers" Justice League show centered on comedy. Just switch Flash and Atom to Booster Gold and Blue Beetle. Just make "Supper Buddies formerly knows as Justice League" show. Booster, Beetle, Fire, Ice and let's Guy Gardner. Make it a superhero sitcom mockumentary, but make it work well.

@TheMysteryDriver

5 ай бұрын

So legends of tomorrow?

@bartoszdulas1703

5 ай бұрын

@@TheMysteryDriver Legends of Tomorrow started as "B-Listers" of Arrowverse and ended as Z-Listers of it's own show.

@pickedceasar1216

5 ай бұрын

So a live action JLI? Cause that’s literally just JLI

@MarvinPowell1

4 ай бұрын

"Make a superhero sitcom mockumentary." NBC tried to do that years ago, but with normal humans in Metropolis. It was a show with Danny Pudi and Vanessa Hudgens called "Powerless." It was canonically set in the DCEU/Synderverse. You've probably never heard of it.

It was supposed to be Guy Gardner and Ice, who has a relationship in the comics.

1:44 The Atom was so brave to use his power to save that one kitty. 🐱

@anubusx

5 ай бұрын

It looks like the unreleased Fantastic Four film.

@DanielAppleton-lr9eq

5 ай бұрын

@@anubusx We have a winner ! & I sorta - kinda thought the same thing. I would not eat this loony sandwich if I was starving.

The 60s one, Legends of the Superheroes might give this a run for it's money

@Crazy1van

5 ай бұрын

The 60s one was made in 1979, but yes, I agree.

@Leadeshipcoach

5 ай бұрын

Yes🤣🤣

@philipdefibaugh5683

3 ай бұрын

The Legends of the Superheros from 79 was a lot better than this "Justice League" mess.

Every time that pilot is mentioned I remember the same story and it is the fact that I started watching this movie a few minutes after the beginning. So for a long time I was wondering who the hell this Green Lantern was and basically my candidates were Jordan or Ryner. I almost fell out of my chair when I heard someone say "Guy"...

@Awestefeld6612

5 ай бұрын

The Legends of the Superheroes was arguably worse than THIS JLA.

I've actually seen this in two separate edits. The first on a bootleg tape that I got off my old comic shop. That version did not have the Office-esque cutaways. A few years later, a friend in England recorded the Channel Five broadcast and sent it two me, which I had converted from PAL to NTSC. That version had the cutaways. I wonder if the cutaways were even in the version the US network saw and rejected, but were instead included in the version sold for broadcast overseas to pad out the running time for a TV-movie length running time. Unfortunately, I trashed my VHS's of this many years ago so I can't compare running times.

@baldeagle5297

3 ай бұрын

The copy I have is 1:12:50. It has the cutaways.

I gotta admit that the roster looked pretty cool. A Blue Lantern? The Flash? Atom? Martian Manhunter? Then they were burned to the down.

@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259

5 ай бұрын

It was green lantern not blue. They made him look bluer due to the lack of green screen. I like the roster and costumes for the most part. Not atom.

@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259

5 ай бұрын

@Flyboy1953 who's jws and rod may I ask? Edit: OH!!! This looks better than rods for sure. I like it better than John Wesley shipps but shipps is better.

@cathydelgenio269

Ай бұрын

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 And yet they kept Fire, who they could've had in other colors due to her name, in green instead of the person whose name is literally GREEN Lantern when there was already Blue Lanterns in lore makes perfect sense... Like, Guy's mask is the only greenish thing about him in this and even that's a blue-leaning teal; heck, even his casual outfit is blue-coded. I'm not trying to start anything or whatever, just wanted to point that out

@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259

Ай бұрын

@@cathydelgenio269 that's fair enough. They should have switched.

I know fire and ice from the JLU show, but I wouldn't expect them to be getting put on the league above Wonder woman. I assume the Trinity were just put on a sorta "no they're too good for tv" pedestal for a long long time.

@DanielAppleton-lr9eq

5 ай бұрын

@@Flyboy1953 This looks worse than a beginning film school project by a blind film school project.

Oh my god, it's been years since I saw this as a kid and I always thought it was either some commercial my imagination made into movie or just fever dream

3:10 Wait... he's supposed to be _Gardner?!_ 😲 Did _not_ see that plot twist coming.

@jadenbryant9283

5 ай бұрын

I thought that was Kyle rayner

@Brickerbrack

5 ай бұрын

@@jadenbryant9283 So did I!

Am I crazy or is Green Lantern's suit in this not green?

@rayshoup5334

5 ай бұрын

It’s mint, but green lanterns are known for emerald

Fire: We had just one fight and you cheated on me! Green Lantern: We...were...on...a...BREAK!!!!!!!!!😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

@danmount9462

5 ай бұрын

Atom: Could I BE any smaller?

@Ultriac301

5 ай бұрын

@@danmount9462 The Flash: How are YOU doin?😏

It's like doing a movie you and you friends came up with but you have a budget of nothing except your allowance and money you make from McDonald's

Gives Generation X TV movie vibes

Wasn't this one of those films that was just made to keep the film rights? That kind of explains all of this.

12:37-12:58 The Green Lantern Movie Literally Deconstructed This Kind Of Thing At One Point.

Btw that is Davd Krumholtz; also known to play Bernard in the Santa Clause movies 1 and 2 along with having a cameo in the Santa Clauses tv show on Disney Plus.

One thing you can say about this pilot, though: at least you can see it. Compare it to the Generation X pilot, which was way too dark. Granted, dark show hide a low budget (poorly dressed sets, bad costumes, bad makeup), but it's still something to say. Also, is this truly worse than that other bad Justice League live action outing, Legends of the Super Heroes? I know the latter wasn't called "Justice League", but that's what it was (just like how Super Friends is a Justice League show). Granted, Legends actually has Batman (Adam West at that), but it's nowhere near the quality of the 1960s series it was clearly trying to ride the coattails of. But I guess we're bound to get a video which at least mentions the two in the same breath.

Two things I found most annoying about this film. 1. The Green Lantern here is called Guy Garderner while looking like Kyle Rainer. 2. Green Lantern's costume not being green. Also. You know when a movie is bad when the porn version is better produced?

@bartoszdulas1703

5 ай бұрын

Keep in mind that while Joss Whedon's Justice League was bombing at box office, its porn parody won awards in it's industry.

@DarkLordDiablos

5 ай бұрын

@@bartoszdulas1703 indeed and that is the point I was making.

I think the guy who has a crush on Fire is 18, since that seems to make the most sense logically from what's implied

I saw this in the 90s. The comic shop owner had a copy of this and the Fantastic Four. So, when people say The Flash sucks. They haven't seen these movies.

Martian manhunter has a beer belly

@NUCLEARDASH

4 ай бұрын

Martian beer must be good

Well...is it really the worst??

i feel your pain. i reviewed this pilot for my own show a few years ago, precisely to get people to AVOID it. to not suffer as we have.

The idea of an office style show of the dc universe is a perfect idea.

@KingNerdG

4 ай бұрын

Closest we got to that was that Powerless show from a few years back.

What could have worked is if the Martian Manhunter and the Flash were survivors of the first iteration of the team, which did consist of Superman and company, and that what we were watching was the MM rebuilding the team to the point where we, as the audience, could find out what had happened, and that the first iteration of the team were still around, but required measures to rescue them from a "big bad", like Starro or Despero. That search for the missing JLA could be done during season 2 of the series, before we get to season 3, featuring the original JLA, along with the new team. And, yes, you can have a rotation of Superman, Batman, WW, etc. depending upon the mission, where you don't have to worry about conflicting IPs.

Man we ain't no justice league

I’ve heard of it and tried watching it and can’t get through it

3:08 I think the talking head shots, were inspired by similar shots in When Harry Met Sally.

It looks like they hired all the production crew from Black Scorpion and asked DC what characters they could apply this treatment to. Very black scorpion

Man, we ain’t no Justice League

@Ekamveer-zf3jz

4 ай бұрын

TRUE

Ugh. Do yourself a favor and read the Giffen/DeMattais version of the Justice League. AKA Justice League International or JLI. That is the tone and vibe (and many of the characters) they were going for here, with more of a comedic take, as opposed to constant superhero action. That run was actually one of the more popular eras of the comics, despite not often having a list heroes on the team. Now granted this version went more for a super-powered "friends" approach, but that was the style of the time. I think it could have worked. My only issue is this Green Lantern looks and acts more like Kyle, but they named him Guy. Give him a bowl cut, make him 100 times more obnoxious, and give him the romantic subplot wit in Ice instead of Atom, and we'd be on the right track. Throw in Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, and maybe even Elongated Man, and it'd be perfection!

@astroknight2828

4 ай бұрын

I agree.I strongly agree.As a fan of the book myself,I think it could be given a chance with some adjustments.And it's not that big of adjustments or costs either.At least they did make an effort in that direction of that era.If they wanted to keep the Martian Manhunter the way he was instead of the powerful hero he always was then fine,just give him a better disguise as a mentor.And that Flash is more Wally than Barry,and they should have went with that.If they had more creativity and did some research,they could have made something watchable instead of rushing it.

Did no one ever read the Keith Giffen Justice League of America. It’s pretty much that but adapted horribly

The cartoon, Avengers United They Stand, had the same problems, too. Including no Avengers holy trinity on the roster on a permanent basis.

I would just like to know why Green Lantern's suit isn't green

No one was "clamoring" for a Guardians of the Galaxy movie. No one was "clamoring" for a Blade movie. No one was "clamoring" for a Conan movie. This is why fanboys don't make movies.

oh god, they brought Miguel Ferrer into this mess. Credit to him for being a working actor, but he was already leagues above this. I wish he had a more prominent villain role in the DCAU, though he at least got to be Deathstroke in one of the later movies.

Heard about it..never watched it..and I think the reason that the..trinity was never used is probably because DC had plans for them. They were trying to get another Superman movie made, Batman was still in cinemas and I think they might have had plans for Wonder Woman...so..B-Team it is.... they probably should've skipped this

My God. I always wondered what Michelle Herd did before Picard.

Yep. I forgot about this movie. Just as an FYI this was the era of the JLA/JLI series...which were actually best sellers at DC but were major comedy comics. Martian Manhunter was addicted to Oreos...Fire and Ice were the sex pots. Booster Gold and Blue Beetle were the cooky friends who were always getting in trouble. Strange times to be a Justice League fan

I, unfortunately, have seen this, um, garbage.

@Joecbg100

5 ай бұрын

i saw this when Linkara reviewed it and it's hooooo boy. Awful.

@Vee Infuso Umm, what word do you say at 5:23? I'm sure you probably censored it, but now I'm curious.

Wait, the Lantern is Guy Gardner? Where's his bowl cut, ginger hair? I thought he was Hal until his name popped up.

Need to have some buddies over and have some drinks and have a triple feature of this, the Generation X tv movie & the 1994 Fantastic Four movie. lol

Thank you 😊

I remember watching this while my ship was in port in Chinghe Korea. At a Laundromat on a freezing cold day. It was weird made more so watching this.

Made in the same year that Batman & Robin came out ? That explains why The Flash and Atom have Batman & Robin mask mold look

I still can’t believe Charles Winchester the third is in this film lol 😂

It's basically office in cosplay that sucks

I prefer watching 1995 VR Troopers.

Did bro just say "giving antidotes about moments that never happened on screen"? Anecdotes.

The guy Fire likes is probably 18 years old; old enough to be a legal adult, but young enough to still be in high school and dating a 10th grader. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing you review the short-lived DCEU show "Powerless."

I actually HAVE seen this movie... it was campy carbage but still had a way better plot than the new Justice League movie. They managed to actually have developed characters thanks in large part to the weird choice to film the entire movie like they were on a reality show. Unlike the higher budget Justice League movie that doesn't really have characters.

What would be cool is a video on the best Batman theme song!

The hairstylist should have been nominated for an Emmy Award. Well, am I wrong? Look at every scene, okay, TRY to look at every scene-not one hair out of place.

Yo!! Green Lantern in this pilot was played by the same guy who played Speirs in Band Of Brothers!

When I saw the weather wizard I was like ha the Riddler from the Batman took some notes!

Hey, watch what you say, “that’s my girlfriend”. LOL 😂😂

I still think Snyder's version is worse...😒😒😒

Parks and Recreation is a mockumentary...I think it just did some different things with it but the way the entire thing was shot was still "documentary" like.

@0:45 Guy Gardner, Fire, and Ice. *I'm in no way defending the film!* I would have been just getting into comic books around this time; not brand new, but only regularly buying them for a year (or less!), and I stuck to Marvel back then. So I think of the team based on the lineup they had during the Death of Superman crossover, which I only read because my uncle had purchased the TPB for it, and let me read it. That contained Justice League #69, and the team lineup was Bloodwynd, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Fire, Guy Gardner, Ice, and Maxima. If Superman was still a regular member at the time, it read more like he was a former member and it was a crossover. *Think **_that's weird?_* I didn't even remember the above _clearly._ Not only did I only really recall Guy Gardner, Fire and Ice *but* it turns my memory copy/pasted them over members of Justice League Europe, because _Justice League Europe_ #37 was my first Justice League(ish) comic! I dunno if that was the only comic book that looked remotely interested on some random shopping trip, or random issue grab bag (that were a semi-common sight back then). So I _should_ have remembered Aquaman, Crimson Fox (Vivian d'Aramis), Doctor Light (Kimiyo Hoshi), Elongated Man, Flash (Wally West), and Power Girl. Batman also was in that issue, but they made it clear it he wasn't a regular for the team. Since I remembered the lineup totally wrong, I was only able to identify the correct comic because I remember the shtick of Deconstructo (that issue's villain). *You read this far?* I'll mention that, with my mixed up memories, based on what Vee showed in the video everyone felt _wrong._ I can't be sure kid me would have either noticed it or cared, but adult me is like "No thanks!" Sure, I've had a _little_ more exposure to the characters over the years, but not _that_ much.

They thought they were adapting JLI.

Boy are you right. I actually watched it twice to be sure I wasn't mistaken. The costumes were a joke and who thought that Maj. Winchester from MASH was a good choice for The Martian Manhunter. He should be put in an asylum. This was not only the worst JLA movie but one of the worst movies ever. It's even worse then Roger Command Fantastic Four movie.

i thought this was an 80's show the whole time.. then he goes "this was made in 97". I am so glad my 10 year old ass in 97 didn't see this

That would be wild if the Batman movie was set in the same universe as this justice league movie lol

I think the Marvel equivalent would be the POWER PACK pilot episode.

The Super Friends

So that was what the Cryptkeeper was doing while he was alive.

It made the CW look like the MCU of it was somehow 10x greater than it… and if you’ve seen the end of flash or some of the other ones… dang

I saw this just after it was made. Almost said 'released', but 'escaped' would be more apt. I was a huge fan of DC and Marvel and had been since the 60's, as a small boy. Having seen several sub par Marvel movies, and the 1966 Batman series, which falls into the 'so bad it's good' box, I didn't have high expectations of this effort. Even so, I was disappointed. One expects minor changes - we already knew life on Mars was absent or extinct, so changing J'onn Jonzz's planet of origin would have been OK with me, I think. That was not the kind of change we saw, though. Ersatz Hal Jordan was not a test pilot, but a white collar worker. Barry Allen was not a forensic scientist, but a slacker with clear mental issues (ring any bells with a later depiction?). Ray Palmer was bumbling, overweight and a clown. Waste of great actors Mel Ferrer and David Ogden Stiers

This pilot was based on Justice League International, which is one of my favorite comic series. Needless to say, yeah, this thing was pretty terrible for butchering it.

Listen man, we had 12 week turnaround on this thing casting wasn’t even finished when we started the script got changed halfway through and our money got cut do you mind we did the best we could

I think it was better for Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman to not show up in this movie, I don't even wanna know how they could've look like in this "thing".

Ngl I thought that was Kyle Rayner

to be honest, we ALL have a bad time being set on fire.

Next video title : THE GREATEST GOTHAM CITY STREET FOOD VENDOR YOU’VE NEVER SEEN

At least the "Legends of the Superheoes" [1979] had the saving grace of being a COMEDY. It was this bad, but it intended to be, and the costumes and effects were comparable to this movie.

*TEAL Lantern💀💀

I remember reading about this in the 90's and wanting soooo bad to watch this, I never did see it, kinda glad I didn't

I honestly never even heard of this until I clicked on the thumbnail!

The Teal Lantern, great choice. MMH looking like King Piccolo from DBE😬.. And SFX wasn't done by ILM as youd think,but Microsoft Paint😂😂😂

That was definitely the worst version ever, since it was like watching a bad adaptation of a Walker, Texas Ranger mixed with a Friends episode that definitely missed the mark on so many levels.

Man, we ain't no Justice League. My condolences.

Oh, I’ve seen it. It’s one of the very rare examples of something I actually resented wasting time on after it was done,

The kid from the Adams family sequel? You mean the guy from Numbers?

I feel like you can go pretty far with a Justice League show shot like the Office. It would just take you through the everyday work of the Justice League fighting villains, but being very low-stakes and more focused on the comedy and the way characters bounce off of each other.

Mans out here confusing “anecdote” and “antidote”, but get “charcuterie board” right

@VI_V2

5 ай бұрын

My accent makes certain words hard to articulate unless I’m saying them in slow motion. “Portray” also sounds a lot like “betray” when I say it.

Man, WE ain't no Justice League.

JL without the trinity is definitely just the superfriends 😂

Never saw the film and always thought the guy playing the lantern was portraying Kyle Rayner, nope the guy is “Guy.” Alrighty Then…

I loved this movie! Found the VHS at my only comic convention next to the unreleased Fantastic 4 movie!

11:17 is green lantern wearing yellow 😮

Ah yes, I remember that tv film.

I actually watched this train wreck when it was originally on couldn’t believe how ridiculous it was. Made the characters look like a joke.

What is the name of this TV serie?

Martian Manhunter needs Jenny Craig.

Tbh what dc should of did was instead of wiping stuff clean with nan of steel universe they should of made a justice league movie first then give all the characters thier own solo movies what's scary now is the new batman and the new superman movies we dont know if they will use those into a future justice league movie