The Worst Fuel map EVER!!! Tuning link and Autotune Issues explained

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  • @mrnine295
    @mrnine2955 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! Exactly the kind of thing I wanted to find out about auto tuning - especially the great insight at the end about how one needs to make sure the values are averaged out in an area and how the autotune doesn’t understand going into a decel.

  • @northwash
    @northwash4 жыл бұрын

    I don't comment often but this vid has been very helpful in me tuning my turbo snowmobile. This and few other vids have helped this novice learn a lot. Many thanks.

  • @noahloveridge3313
    @noahloveridge33136 жыл бұрын

    Great video, that's why it's important to get your dyno done at a reputable shop with an experienced operator. Thanks for the info Daniel.

  • @ATVRIDER676
    @ATVRIDER6766 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos Mr Cuervo, always great information! Love the builds too! Great work keep it up!

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks, i appreciate it!!

  • @David10-4
    @David10-44 жыл бұрын

    Learnt more off this vid than in various searches and most tuning "specific" vids. Thanks!

  • @ianm432
    @ianm4325 жыл бұрын

    This is hilarious. I've been playing with automotive standalones for the last few years. A friend of mine has an iron 883 that I've convinced him to do a big bore and I've been trying to research what sort of afr's those "sophisticated" combustion chambers like. I think this "tuners" tune shows why there isn't a lot of information readily available hahaha. I appreciate your insight in this video on other's mistakes.

  • @alexesposito4347
    @alexesposito43474 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video,was really helpful for me and my friend to understand fundamentals and basics.

  • @manny1470
    @manny1470 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome info. I'm just getting into tuning a little with my pcv. I noticed some of the canned maps for my dyna had those weird + - jumps cell to cell that didn't look right to me and I know very little about tuning. I "smoothed" those out like you said. More videos on the PCV adjusting would be great.

  • @gdubbsmotolife9713
    @gdubbsmotolife97134 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 4 the video brother. I've been curious about how the Dynojet software works, thinking about going with a powervision for my Harley. This helps me a bunch. See you around - I'm in Eugene too.

  • @Ta-sn6vc
    @Ta-sn6vc6 жыл бұрын

    As usual , great video , great share of experience, GOD BLESS U

  • @PacAnimal
    @PacAnimal3 жыл бұрын

    Getting a PowerCommander 5 and AutoTune for my bike right now. Can't get shit tuned during COVID Thanks for the tips on what to look out for.

  • @kanehoward7050
    @kanehoward70504 жыл бұрын

    "The bike is worthless if it's flooding at idle..." 😆 Unbelievable. Thanks for showing us this. That person was all over the place.

  • @JB_Fury
    @JB_Fury4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for explaining averaging !!! , changed my rich lean percentage to 5% to see why my 17 R6 was jumping from -20 to +20 at 3500 rpm at the 5% to 10 %. I know at 5% its going to tape like 20 commit changes. The issue i was having even before i got my ecu flashed was that the bike would start to jerking like a drop in loss of power feeling. Also i now disable auto tunes when i have a passage on the back, that really throws things off. also would too much downshifting cause auto tunes to act funny ?

  • @lionman6110
    @lionman61106 жыл бұрын

    Great video especially for a novice like myself. What do you think of the ThunderMax ECM replacement module? Doing my homework to ready myself down the road on upgrading and tuning my 2018 Fat Bob....Cheers

  • @MB-tr5sz
    @MB-tr5sz3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, really helpful information for where I’m at.

  • @redlee3391
    @redlee33913 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Thank you for all the ground you covered in a short time. Little bits of meat to snack on to get my mind stirring before I crack open my laptop

  • @TechAndMotorcycles
    @TechAndMotorcycles3 жыл бұрын

    Thx I really learned alot i know its just an over view but was helpful. You ever get that shop because you mentioned oregon/Washington and im in oregon

  • @NikkFlo
    @NikkFlo5 жыл бұрын

    I am interested in learn how to tune my bike properly and am curious if you have any other vids for doing so? I have a build LTR450 with heavy head work(port/deck) high comp piston and web cam. I have the pc3 with auto and it runs super lean from idle to about 5k. The map was way off so i let her drink on the top rpms and it got rid of the sputter but i still need to raise the it 5k and under

  • @notone4029
    @notone40292 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for Explaining and making this video.

  • @deon7743
    @deon77432 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this, I'm going to take use this on my Bike now 🙏I'm running Auto Tune so will average the cells

  • @cwinsor3085
    @cwinsor30852 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always.

  • @craiglasley4410
    @craiglasley44106 жыл бұрын

    Hey Daniel could you please do a video solely for auto tune. What you suggest and how you would run it if it were your bike. Great video thanks for all the uploads and go fast parts

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    6 жыл бұрын

    i will try and get that done '

  • @lillnemo1

    @lillnemo1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi! I m not a tuner, but getting my head around all them tech stuff and I believe first thing to do with PAIR equipped bikes is disable PAIR when using a dyno, especially if you re using autotune...

  • @freshconnekt
    @freshconnekt4 жыл бұрын

    In the lower cells (RPM and TP) ecu is running closed loop so the values in those cells do not matter as the ecu ignores the tables provided by the PCV.

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    If you have an O2 sensor.....

  • @cornelioesvanburen7311
    @cornelioesvanburen73114 жыл бұрын

    Hi. My Triumph Rlll got PCV and Autotune. Into each header I did fix a bun in order tuning each cylinder apart. Now the PCV mainscreen outlay doesn't allow me to trim separately each cylinder. Issue for me is now how to get the main PCV screen outlay installed for the individual fuel targeting and trims ! Tnx for any advice.

  • @mikekosar6135
    @mikekosar61355 жыл бұрын

    Good info...thank you

  • @JayM84
    @JayM844 жыл бұрын

    That's really helped, thanks a lot!

  • @matthewjames7394
    @matthewjames73945 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any tunes for 2015 YFZ450r for a Barkers exhaust and and FCI intake?

  • @trailblogger
    @trailblogger6 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @robmason7433
    @robmason74334 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this!

  • @turbotyoma
    @turbotyoma3 жыл бұрын

    Tell me please how did you add or subtract fuel by one?

  • @mariotrujillo4695
    @mariotrujillo46953 жыл бұрын

    Heyman. Cuervo! Thanks for all your info and videos. I'm wondering if you can lead me to a good map for my 05 road king that has a screaming eagle 96 big bore kit with se 203 cams and se air cleaner.

  • @matt3122
    @matt31225 жыл бұрын

    You mentioned getting bad trims when you decelerating. I want to autotune a 2014 CBR600RR. Should I pull the clutch while decelerating to so I do not have engine braking? Plus while autotuning should I drive the bike normally and just try to hit all throttle positions in all gears?

  • @kevinnoneya9095

    @kevinnoneya9095

    4 жыл бұрын

    this would be a fantastic question to answer where are you OP!!!?

  • @rigourmortis
    @rigourmortis6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome...cheers 4 th info. Sure glad mine doesnt look like that 🖒

  • @K0nst4nt1n96
    @K0nst4nt1n965 жыл бұрын

    Any advice for ignition timing on a sv 1000 k4?

  • @alexquadstunt
    @alexquadstunt6 ай бұрын

    Hi Mr Cuervo Would you be kind enough to make a video on the ignition timing values ​​for the PC5? Thank you very much your videos are great.

  • @Renaissance_cycles
    @Renaissance_cycles2 жыл бұрын

    Hey there! Thank you so much for this video. I have a 02 Gsxr 600 with Race air filter, full Yoshimura and Power Commander 3, which is running a map from dynojet for a full Yoshimura that kinda looks like that, I’ll over the place. You don’t happen to have a map that you could share or some values I’d be looking for would you ? TIA!

  • @xjinxix76
    @xjinxix763 жыл бұрын

    I'm buying a pc5 in a couple of days for my 2006 raptor 700r, is there any help you could give me about installing it and the mapping process? I'm a female and still learning. 🙂 I am running dmc force 4s dual exhaust. Everything else is stock. I do want to get a aftermarket air filter too.

  • @tomsarlija2526
    @tomsarlija25267 ай бұрын

    Hi I noticed that you highlighted table sections and were able to higher and lower number percentage all at once. How did you do that I've been trying to work that out and can't. Could you please tell me

  • @swingdaddy2126
    @swingdaddy21265 жыл бұрын

    i have the power commander FC with a wideband O2 sensor and guage on my R6. it was a big learning cure but i just logged and adjusted cells based on A/F ratio when i would do runs with a netbook strapped to my back seat. took me about a year to figure it out. with that said i just about crapped myself when i saw this map. who ever made this map has a lot to learn.

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    How do you datalog the wideband?

  • @swingdaddy2126

    @swingdaddy2126

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Are you asking how I physically wired it up? in the comment I left I did state I strapped a Netbook to the back seat. I used a serial to USB adapter and ran the signal wire to the adapter. then use what ever software you want to log you A/F ratio

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    @@swingdaddy2126 ahh, ok, serial tu USB adapter.. Prolific? Wich software did you use? I am between Dinojet Auto tune or Wideband and datalog..

  • @swingdaddy2126

    @swingdaddy2126

    2 жыл бұрын

    @ well if you have dynojet autotune then you should be able to log with that. pretty sure If I recall properly you can set a A/F target and it will tune each cell to hit that A/F but also log the changes.

  • @moreclips805
    @moreclips8052 жыл бұрын

    “I call them lottery numbers” 😂

  • @mrgrouchyguy
    @mrgrouchyguy4 жыл бұрын

    Why would a guy have "divice errors" flashing any idea and is there a way to fix this in you're opinion?

  • @yogeshe7913
    @yogeshe7913Ай бұрын

    Hey. Very informative video. Could you please help me with a good map for Ninja 1000sx 2020 with PC6

  • @michaelknox4799
    @michaelknox47993 жыл бұрын

    How do I contact you for a tune ? I've tried auto tune on pc5 and haven't had any luck I actually fouled out my plug on a 2020 raptor 700

  • @sparkthego
    @sparkthego Жыл бұрын

    I knew there was something wrong with my tune, you coined it with "lotto numbers" and the abruptness problem I have with the bike. I will go ahead at try the "averaging" method that you suggested, and it was not autotune it was a dyno tune that the previous owner paid $600 for.

  • @robertholsopple9451
    @robertholsopple94514 жыл бұрын

    That's a crazy map!

  • @Michael-vc6qc
    @Michael-vc6qc4 жыл бұрын

    Your video is grist to my mill. I manually slightly change the results even of a dynamometer. A harmonic wave-like alignment of the values ​​in the matrix of gas position and speed ensures a harmonious and controllable power delivery. It may be true then that the absolute single peak value is not reached anymore, but due to the better driveability there are better lap times.

  • @dntBdum81
    @dntBdum816 жыл бұрын

    I need a map for my bike its 2018 Raptor 700 i have the Barkers big 3 kit

  • @boostedsaleen6146
    @boostedsaleen61463 жыл бұрын

    I need a fuel map for my 09 raptor , its been bored and is now a 732 , uni air filter , no lid on stock air box with a HMF slip on pipe.

  • @josephknapp24
    @josephknapp243 жыл бұрын

    Mabe the guy who set this up was trying to buy the bike so he was fucking with this guy who owned the bike ! That's how people are ! What a friend ! Tring to screw him out of the bike !

  • @rkstuntz5278
    @rkstuntz52782 жыл бұрын

    how did you change al that fuel coloms in one time? (6:38 - 7:08 in the video)

  • @K0nst4nt1n96
    @K0nst4nt1n965 жыл бұрын

    Generally the Map Pointer will jump between two or four cells and if there are huge differences the fueling will jump slower than the fuelling of the ecu so it will run like shit. The Autotune will correct when you shut the throttle as it laggs a bit so find out where you climb through the table in neutral and zero out the afr values or it will autocorrect down. The bike will shoot out some fuel in this dump zone which tells the autotune that its too rich and it will lean out the mixture. 23:40 onward

  • @kylewilliamson6228
    @kylewilliamson62285 жыл бұрын

    What is the quick key you were hitting to increase multiple cells at once?

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    5 жыл бұрын

    Page up or page down

  • @ArmandoPerez-fb7jf
    @ArmandoPerez-fb7jf2 жыл бұрын

    hello i would like to know if the msd blaster fi 2006 raptor 700 can be played with in a dyno to get more power out of it or i need another one that can be. thank you

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes can be tuned same as a pcv

  • @dariodipaola8445
    @dariodipaola84455 жыл бұрын

    Dude probably had the worlds largest fans blasting while the bike was idling... 60mph winds at 0mph. No wonder you need 250% more fuel at 0%0rpm

  • @filipprucnal
    @filipprucnal3 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see this fuel map in 3D. Absolutely ridiculous

  • @ruindzx6r
    @ruindzx6r11 ай бұрын

    I like the name of the lottery number map😂

  • @6gatornation
    @6gatornation10 күн бұрын

    I had silber bench Flash mine in 2016 Road like crap when I got it back They wanted me to send it back to them I was thinking hell no sent it to Evo got their stage three and ran great Fixing to upgrade to the newer cam and injectors And go with the ws190

  • @farhangilani5323
    @farhangilani53232 жыл бұрын

    So what is the best Map for some one who want best performance with voodoo slip on?

  • @audiogarden21
    @audiogarden214 жыл бұрын

    This scenario is kinda true of most aftermarket mods people make. Most have little to no clue what they're doing and should leave it to the professionals.

  • @dustintowsend9302
    @dustintowsend93025 жыл бұрын

    I jus put a msd box on my 2011 700 raptor I put it on 2 its runnin fine to me is there anything i should check ??? 0 is stock has 1-3 power settings

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    5 жыл бұрын

    the maps they come with are very limited, not even enough to support a single exhaust system and air lid off.

  • @thomasmarchese2808
    @thomasmarchese28084 жыл бұрын

    So why do things like the power vision “auto tune” work well for some and stuff like this happens to others?

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    4 жыл бұрын

    Programming and parameters. Every year and as new systems come out they get better, always bestbto have Human input

  • @hot_top_1686
    @hot_top_16865 жыл бұрын

    I just bought a 06 raptor it idle fine but when I hit the throttle it wants to die I put a new spark plug in and it was black would this video help me out

  • @plageran

    @plageran

    5 жыл бұрын

    black spark plugs, i think you're running rich.

  • @KCadbyRacing
    @KCadbyRacing4 жыл бұрын

    Just because something says it's "automatic", that doesn't mean it's idiot proof (or lack of knowledge/experience proof). In the right hands automation can be great but in the wrong hands??? I learned Dynojet Tuning Link over twelve years ago (on motorcycles) and I quickly figured out that the settings Dynojet recommended for each/every bike wasn't always right (and can be way off on modified engines)... Since I have also tuned many Stand Alone ECUs on bikes (which includes seeing hundreds of Data Logs) I can actually visualize what the "Fuel Flow" (and or 3-D view of that table) looks like = UGLY!!!

  • @FatimaHassan-fn1vk
    @FatimaHassan-fn1vk5 жыл бұрын

    Why are there negative values at times of full throttle?Shouldnt we increase fuel rather than decreasing it?

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes at low rpm and the use of bigger injectors the maps will require negative numbers. Fuel delivery would be greater then stock due to injector sizing.

  • @Eastern_SA
    @Eastern_SA4 жыл бұрын

    These are percentages of change. So, what does the actual table value look like? What are the values of ignition at certain RPM & throttle %?

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    4 жыл бұрын

    that info is not displayed or available on this platform. you can watch injector duty cycle.

  • @tonydanzl

    @tonydanzl

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what i liked about HDprotuner. You could program actual a/f ratio numbers. Thanks EPA for killing that tuner !

  • @cadman9615
    @cadman96152 жыл бұрын

    Great vid…very helpful. You can zero out 0% throttle past like 2k. Same for 80-100% under 5k…it’s not possible to actually b in that condition. I had a 2012 KAW Ninja 1000, that I had set up with a PC5, & O2 sensor, so instead of trying to adjust %fuel, you set the air/fuel ratio & let the ECU make the adjustments while you ride. Ideal air/fuel is like 12.7. I leaned it in the cruising range, & enriched it above 50% throttle & 5k RPM. Bike ran great. Was smooth. Fun bike to tune on.

  • @spdermnky
    @spdermnky5 жыл бұрын

    What's your thought on power commandor 5 auto afr. Example if I sent my Harley sportster at 13.4 then select auto tune. So it should maintain the computer should continuely adjust automatically.

  • @justinmanse2849

    @justinmanse2849

    5 жыл бұрын

    Correct or very close

  • @itemps
    @itemps4 жыл бұрын

    Can someone explain rich vs lean? And why richer when higher rpm? Thank you

  • @tomdickharryjane

    @tomdickharryjane

    3 жыл бұрын

    Easy: Rich, more fuel than needed. Lean less fuel than needed. Put another way rich too much fuel. Lean too little fuel. HARD: Too much and too little is based on the chemistry of fuel burning. What is burning? Exothermic reaction where oxygen is used to create a different chemical and heat gets released. The heat creates the pressure in the combustion chamber. The pressure does the work to make horsepower that moves the vehicle forward. How to release the most heat? Get just enough oxygen molecules combined with the vaporized gas molecules so in the end no oxygen or gas is left. Complete combustion. This is the stoichiometric ratio, 14.7. 14.7 parts air to 1 part fuel. Higher than 14.7, too lean. Lower than 14.7 too rich. Hope this helps.

  • @itemps

    @itemps

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tomdickharryjane very informative! Thanks!

  • @tomdickharryjane

    @tomdickharryjane

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@itemps YW. Lots more information if you do some research. Good luck.

  • @BLRTUNING
    @BLRTUNING4 жыл бұрын

    Each cell is making milliseconds of change not percentage...

  • @5spd5thgen
    @5spd5thgen7 ай бұрын

    Im just here to say the name of the map is hilarious

  • @marknato5569
    @marknato55692 жыл бұрын

    I just ordered a monster shorty, I’m too far from anywhere to get a dyno tune. Can I buy a map off of you ?

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    2 жыл бұрын

    email all the info to sales@cuervo-racing.com

  • @StreetCarCartel
    @StreetCarCartel5 жыл бұрын

    ? How can u say this is bad or good tune .if u not on the dyno running.? Seeing power gain or lack of power?

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    5 жыл бұрын

    From experience with these bikes.

  • @StreetCarCartel

    @StreetCarCartel

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@MrCuervoRacing lol ok 🤙

  • @giovanniecolon9632
    @giovanniecolon96326 жыл бұрын

    Do a vid on auto tune

  • @tomdickharryjane
    @tomdickharryjane3 жыл бұрын

    @9:29, you say this is fine at full throttle. IMHO, you cannot be sure. With as bad as the mapping is, you really don't know. It is plausible, based on the numbers. But as bad as much of the other mapping is, the full throttle may not be any good, either.

  • @mikefoster4105
    @mikefoster41053 жыл бұрын

    I'm not familiar with this software but he could've hit the smooth button!!!... I've never tuned a bike but would have done a way way better job. Whoever tuned the bike should just give me his dyno lolololol

  • @meanstreak2549
    @meanstreak25494 жыл бұрын

    17:42 Matt fucked map hahaha

  • @trannguyenhuunghi7278
    @trannguyenhuunghi72783 жыл бұрын

    Chưa biết gì hết là bị nắm tay chạy 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

  • @jesseburton400
    @jesseburton4005 жыл бұрын

    holy christ Windows XP. lol

  • @MrCuervoRacing

    @MrCuervoRacing

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cant even use internet anymore on it. It works great for the dyno and other softwares.

  • @KCadbyRacing

    @KCadbyRacing

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrCuervoRacing It won't work well with the newer Dynojet Power Core software(s). The computer I had that worked 100% fine with Win PEP 7 choked when I upgraded to Power Core 😜

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