The Worst Console Wars Debates of All Time with Jon Cartwright
Scott sits down with Jon Cartwright to pit random video game consoles against each other to see which is truly the best.
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The worst console war was the WiiU vs My Dignity
@TheRadiaforce
4 күн бұрын
nah the worst console war was The Infinium Labs Phantom vs the Konix Multisystem, which caused such an apocalypse of reality that it was determined neither would exist, lest their continuous dominance cause a break in reality. So SeGalactus used the Ungenesis to reset the universe without these two in them
@Sonicjan
3 күн бұрын
@@TheRadiaforceAh yes, Archie Sonic Comics
"You can plug it into the wall...we should all take it with us everyday...use it as a brick..." I gotta get myself as a Gamegear.
@Jum_jamb0
4 күн бұрын
It is an effective defense tactic Pull out a GameGear, they won't know what hit'em
@Manobaru
3 күн бұрын
What do you mean "as a Gamegear"? You want to become one?
@tielmaster7879
3 күн бұрын
@@Manobaru lol sorry typo. But I left it there cause it's funny.
@jpm1544
3 күн бұрын
@Manobaru we are all one
@Manobaru
3 күн бұрын
@@tielmaster7879 Don't worry, sometimes we all are a GameGear
Scott fully gaslit me into thinking he was passionate for the Pokémon Mini, what a great debater he is
@TheNsider
4 күн бұрын
A master debater
@internetguy7319
4 күн бұрын
@@TheNsiderdo you get it it kinda sounds like masturbate isnt this so funny
@DeoxysChao
4 күн бұрын
Scott's soul slowly dies the longer he praises a Pokemon product.
@mak_707
4 күн бұрын
A Master Debater at work.
@JohnWolf2007
4 күн бұрын
@@DeoxysChao He's not an rpg guy
4:38 Scott just admitted Sonic Spinball is real. My dudes, it happened.
@flyforce16
4 күн бұрын
👹たのしさ∞ セガ・エンタープライゼス👹
@inderet4118
4 күн бұрын
I bought a second hand Mega Drive this month and the guy who sold it put Sonic Spinball in there when it wasnt on any of the pictures. Laughed my ass off when I opened the package
Brazil mentioned, I am legally obligated to say "come to Brazil." See what you've made me do, Scott?
@mangustoooo
3 күн бұрын
Hey all, portuguese here. Just a question... The come to Brazil thing is it meant to be an invitation like "Bro come to Brazil we can hang out!" or is it a threat like "Bro come to Brazil, see what happens."?
@HenryS136
3 күн бұрын
@@mangustoooo It originated from people asking(flooding) famous musicians to come to Brazil, then it became a meme.
@TwilightWolf032
3 күн бұрын
@@mangustoooo Yes.
@ewitty776
3 күн бұрын
Come for the master system, stay because your flight got cancelled
@TwilightWolf032
2 күн бұрын
@@ewitty776 Brilliant.
Scott and Jon need their own Channel😭😭😭😭
If I were stuck with Atari 5200 my argument would have to be: "Last year I played all the way through the Atari 50 Collection and some of the 5200 games held my attention for as much as two to three minutes before I got bored! That's an incredible amount of time!" The Atari 50 Collection is actually way better than you'd think but mainly because it's like a museum walk. The documentary footage and info and context about the games is more fun than the actual games, though some of the ARCADE Atari games are more fun than you'd imagine. I'd never really played any of the arcade versions of those games and was more familiar with the way lower quality 2600 versions. One of the most surreal experiences on Atari 50 Collection is Atari Kart for the Jaguar. You're playing this game on this supposed 5th gen 64 bit console and going "why does this feel WORSE than Super Mario Kart on the SNES?"
I'm from Brazil, and every time someone saes how the master system is super popular over here... I get befuddled, cause in my 17 years of existence, I never meet a single person who owns a master system, I own the gun porefirall with the box and manual, but that's because I'm a freak
@Izumi_Ryuga
4 күн бұрын
Yeah same here
@mcrenkkoston6537
4 күн бұрын
Master System was popular like 20 years ago. It was popular until the ps2 era. Nowadays the PS2 took the master System place as a cheap console. You are not even born during that period and probably you are from a place in Brazil which does not corresponding to the majority of population ( you are not poor). That's why you cannot understand these statements about master system.
@kaikomiyakazi8680
4 күн бұрын
I'd say that the "Master System is still popular in Brazil" statment was at least half true untill early 2010's, when you still could see a lot of consoles being displayed on stores. Nowadays, I think cheap tablets and smarthphones kind of replaced it as the cheap gaming option for kids
@FilmCritter
4 күн бұрын
Yeah sorry Scott, I don't think that one holds up
@shitsalad429
4 күн бұрын
Master Systems are on display in my local library for like 200 reais
I love that one of the gamegear’s positives is its self defense abilities. That begs the question… what is the best video game console/handheld to be used as a weapon? I would say the GameCube, cause you can grab the handle and use it like brass knuckles.
@samuelberg7920
4 күн бұрын
The original Xbox could kill a cat if it fell on it correctly
@malomal4
4 күн бұрын
The Wii's controller attachment was called the Nunchuk for a reason.
@koolaid33
4 күн бұрын
That is a good question. Personally, I'd use the original Xbox 360 model. It weighs so much, if you drop it on someone's head it's like an anvil it'll just crush them.
@Vladiator
4 күн бұрын
A great assassination weapon too. @@malomal4
@inderet4118
4 күн бұрын
Remember when AVGN murdered Jason Vorhees with the remote Atari 2600 controllers?
This video is so much better than watching console fanboys debates on twitter.
Scott and the weirdly, random console wars
@BROJANGSTER
4 күн бұрын
that’s not the title, bugsyfoga. that’s not the title 😔😔
In my opinion, the best console war of all time was the PS Vita and a rotting human corpse (this was in 2015)
@makotoyuki9498
4 күн бұрын
On this one I prefer the corpse, at least that thing had some support before it was dead.
@koolaid33
4 күн бұрын
The corpse does not have a specified age, meaning it could've lived anywhere from 0-120 years old. Assuming we go with the medium here, that's 60 years before it was discontinued! +1 for the corpse!
@mootwo_
4 күн бұрын
@@makotoyuki9498 Hey! That's not fair; the Vita was home to [INSERT NICHE JAPANESE GAME]
@korumann
4 күн бұрын
@@mootwo_ oddly enough, the vita had more games released for it than the wii. It must have been huge somewhere.
@ballinn0430
3 күн бұрын
I prefer PS Vita, it has OLED screen, an active online network and store, many decent games and classic PlayStation hits, Remote Play, media playback, touchscreen and rear touchpad, and dual analog sticks. Does a dead person have any of that?
Jon Cartwright was awesome on Nintendo Life. Thank you for inviting him on this debate, Scott.
@NA-jd6wy
4 күн бұрын
And he's still awesome on Good Vibes Gaming 🙂
@kenterminateddq5311
4 күн бұрын
@@NA-jd6wy true. I didn't think Cartwright would be on Scott's channel. Then again, everyone was on his channel by now.
@tippedjoshua6802
4 күн бұрын
@@kenterminateddq5311he’s been on before
@sirensongss
4 күн бұрын
@@kenterminateddq5311 i think jon is the most reoccuring guest on here
@bmac2814
4 күн бұрын
I forgot he was with Nintendo Life lol I used to watch his Gamexplain videos. I didn't follow him to Nintendo Life bc I'm just not a fan of them, but I didnt know he left them as well.
Scott coming up with better advertising for these systems than they ever had
This is like watching two guys who didn't prepare their high school presentation desperately try to wing it :D
Dreamcast is about to get humbled real quick in this vid
@Beanzops
4 күн бұрын
I eat the cotton candy candy my walls
@Greendawn-di3dl
4 күн бұрын
Dream cast was sorta crap imo.
@narcopsy
4 күн бұрын
@@Greendawn-di3dlno, it wasn't.
@giggymuun
4 күн бұрын
@@narcopsyit was other than sa1 and 2 and jsr, online, what else is really good about it?
@sonicatlas
4 күн бұрын
Power stone, soul calibur, Grandia 2, Skies of Arcadia, MvC2, Street Fighter 3 3rd Strike, Shenmue, Resident Evil Code Veronica, Tech Romancer, Sega Rally 2, Carrier, Crazy Taxi, ChuChu Rocket?@@giggymuun
Hoping for GameCube V. Wii U so Scott has to choose between air or water
@koolaid33
4 күн бұрын
Unpopular opinion: both are lame.
@roflBeck
4 күн бұрын
@@koolaid33 You're right, that is an unpopular opinion.
15:10 I love my Ararti 5200
Do Etch A Sketch vs Virtual Boy console war debate.
@Cody-5501
4 күн бұрын
Etch a sketch all the way
@koolaid33
4 күн бұрын
Etch-A-Sketch has this in the bag.
"Name something a burglar would not wanna see when he breaks into a house." Scott: 11:35
please do this again the vibes with jon are immaculate
He forgot to say the 5200 has a built in beer cooler
If I had to defend Sega Master System my argument would be: "Phantasy Star. Have you ever played Phantasy Star? Iconic." And just rely on the fact that literally no one has played the first Phantasy Star so no one could argue against my point. Instant win. EDIT: Also, Sonic 1 8-Bit is better than regular Sonic 1 and I am being 100% sincere on that.
@koolaid33
4 күн бұрын
Sonic 1 8-Bit is okay. I like both equally to be honest. Neither hold up very well.
I sold my 360 and games for a Wii U as a teenager
@Murillos1
4 күн бұрын
Sorry for your loss
@pattersong6637
4 күн бұрын
Good man.
@koolaid33
4 күн бұрын
Man, you fell off when you were a teenager. Truly making bad decision after bad decision like this, didn't your parents teach you otherwise?
What a positive video! It's a good exercise to force ourselves to think positive about stuff in a world where trashing everything is considered cool and opinions are treated as facts. Let's defend everything!
I would hear at these two defending random consoles for hours
Growing up I only saw the Master System one time at a kid’s house. It wasn’t plugged in. This was around 93 or 94 during the SNES-Genesis era. I had no clue what MS was. I remember being shocked that there was a Sega console other than Genesis.
Was I the only one who wanted to see their genuine opinions on major console wars throughout history?
This was a very amusing concept. Would like to see more of it!
15:09 I love the Ararti 5200
Um hello Scott the SMS does have a screw in "analog" stick, buddy!!!!!!
Unpopular Opinion: console wars were only a thing because only children and teens owned video games but could only convince their boomer parents to buy one console. Therefore they had a bias towards the console they owned.
@epidemicmagick
3 күн бұрын
KZread has console wars for each generation, the last one I saw catch some steam was Switch vs PS5
@DU85
3 күн бұрын
@@epidemicmagick I can’t relate because I am now an adult in his late 30s who can buy anything he wants and doesn’t need to defend his console because he has them all
@epidemicmagick
3 күн бұрын
@@DU85 I can relate, although I am the same, but I relate because I HAVE TO BE RIGHT :D
@fearanarchy
2 күн бұрын
I think you are discounting the fact that in the 1980s there was a Cold War where it truly was Pick 1 and it defined existence. The exclusive games, for game consoles not the West versus the Iron Curtain, encouraged and played into Nintendo's philosophy of exclusivity and market dominance
@onlywiigame.
7 сағат бұрын
No its cause people love to debate what’s better for anything they buy
jon is my favorite british person
I'm cheering for you Virtual Boy 🥳🎉
Scott lives in a 90s waiting room, fitting. Great bit.
First time I’ve heard the Pokémon mini mention in years
@koolaid33
4 күн бұрын
Because nobody cares about it
The kinect has more exclusives than the ps5.
15:09 ...No offense but, how can someone misspell "Atari" like that? 😅
@Jocobo
4 күн бұрын
the longer you look at it the worse it gets
This Conversations series is my favourite podcast style series of all time.
Wait this is such a cool premise I hope Scott does this with other creators as well!!
Never clicked on something faster
@Nobody-we7kl
4 күн бұрын
Scott x Jon 😤🤌🏽
more scott and jon PLEASE
Please do more with Jon! You two have great energy together
Who can forget all the blood shed on the playground over the Pokémon Mini debates
@koolaid33
4 күн бұрын
Truly a heated time, whether the Pokémon Mini was better than anything else. Fortunately, it never won.
Wii U vs Nintendo my fav console war
Scott is honestly the best out there making vids. Dude is great.
Yay another video
This calls for a round 2!
9:11 joe odagiri jumpscare
Jon was *struggling* coming up with things to say about the Atari 5200.
9:12 Joe Odagiri jumpscare! 😱
Really hoping to see Somecallmejohnny on one of these someday
I had a Game Gear after a GameBoy back in the times and it felt truly next gen, sleek design, horizontal and it even had a TV adapter. It had a WOW factor. The tames were great too, unique versions of Sonic, Shinobi...
Ok so real talk about the master system; many of its back-ports actually turned out better than the Genesis versions. Castle of Illusion and Shinobi both controlled way better on the master system and many of the art assets were completely re-done for the master system. I wish it was more present in NA than it was. I would have seriously considered one to add beside my NES
"The more stuff you have, the more you can do" -Jon Cartwright
Hearing Scott defending Pokémon is great
The PS2 became even more popular here in Brazil due to the ease of making pirated copies of its games, which were sold in any local market.
this is the new main channel
This is a good set up for a superfight variant
you should run this back with it being more of a friendly debate. neither of you really care about most of the consoles tooo much, so you could easily argue for and AGAINST too
I didn't know about the Pokemon Mini until now.
Weirdly some of the Pokémon mini games actually aren’t exclusive some of them appear in the GameCube game Pokémon channel
i mean it was kinda cool for having a built in game on the master system LMAO
Requesting Sega Saturn so you can pull the "All the best games were never translated into English!" Card.
I'm really curious about what a debate between Scott and Tim Rogers would be like
It saddens me when Americans mention Master System without bringing up Alex Kidd in the Miracle World.
The greatest rivalries!
Hey Scott can you talk more about the vita please?
03:35 Brazil mentioned 🎉
Lmao I was playing Sonic Pocket Adventure when Scott got the Neo Geo
JOHN HAS AN ENTIRE SHELF STRICTLY FOR THE LEGEND OF ZELDA!
Funny enough it took until the PS2 was several years old for PS2 games to look better that Dreamcast games. And that still only tended to apply for games that weren't in several different videogame consoles.
You should collab with ConsoleWars about the console wars, epic cross over
I always enjoy these little Scott’s stash colabs but Scott does always seem to dominate the conversation a bit…
I lost it at at Jon defending the 5200. Friends will come over and think you're powerful ROTFL
dot matrix lcd, i believe is the term for the pokemon mini
Jon Cartwright is one of my favorite video game KZreadrs. Not only is his voice legendary, he is also very articulate, informed, and engaging.
Honestly, you guys should have added insults to the adversary console, pick out its weaknesses and argue about them. This video is more like short presentations of random consoles. A real console war should have way more emotion and stupid arguments than this.
@pattersong6637
4 күн бұрын
Scott was way too polite to point out that the Atari 5200 was a console that failed so hard Atari just went back to supporting the 2600 like it never even happened. When the 7800 came out it was backwards compatible with 2600 games but not 5200 games, which really says all you need to say.
Sega Master System had Govallius and R-Type. Check and mate.
hey all
If you think the Master System is wacky wait until you find out about the SG-1000.
Hell yeah
YOOO! Death battle cast is BACK!
Jon! You missed the fact that the Game Gear had the Master Gear! You can play Master System on the Game Gear! It’s 2 consoles in one
19:52 he says this with the same inflection as jony ive which is really scary to me because this is the last thing jony ive would say
The Sega Master System is still selling strong and making new games in Brazil. 🤣🎮🇧🇷
TOKEpi's big adventure
Sonic Spinball only exists on Master System.
@koolaid33
4 күн бұрын
One day he'll announce it's existence on Game Gear, and then the Sega Genesis. Hell, if we're really lucky, he'll admit it released on PC!
The worst console war debates are every single one, who cares what system you use, as long as you’re playing the games you love, why should the piece of plastic you bought matter?
@myriadmediamusings
4 күн бұрын
Whether or not it’s true, I blame the American advertising tendency of smear campaigns.
@makotoyuki9498
4 күн бұрын
People (more so diehard fans?) tend to attempt to defend their systems probably in a way to ward off buyer’s remorse. I think that’s what led to the console war thing, and why it’s still ongoing online. When it comes down to it, the system does not matter, it’s just how shitty the company treats its users and how much they are willing to stick with it.
@myriadmediamusings
4 күн бұрын
@@makotoyuki9498Ah never thought of it that way, and not just with video game companies. It’s not company or brand loyalty that consumers are filled with when it comes to the economy, it’s copium and justification!
I'm Nintendo. And I'm Sega. THIS IS CONSOLE WARS!
The one that was also a phone?
The master system sonic games arw really underrated
Oh dang, i got here pretty quick
Cartwright! ... Caaartwriiight!!
In terms of mostly first party games on the Switch being almost all being great imo, it’s winning this console generation form me cuz the PS5 has been either good or mixed…and i don’t even know what’s on Xbox
Alexx Kidd for the MasterSystem trumps all N64 games.
Free Jon from GVG and team up with Scott
why does top comment have nothing to do with the video
you can play 7800 on 2600+ and 2600 games in HD!!!
Scott knows nothing about RPGs *Paper Mario battle music is playing in the background*