Being in this hobby for so long, it's nice to see someone talking so honestly about his experience, not just talking about what others said

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I'm not gonna lie I was nervous to post this and felt like I was burning a bridge with them but felt it was necessary

@xManzi

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps ok, one question, what bridge is there to burn when they send you super-cool new printer that doesn't even work. Those are just a pile of spare parts at best, scam at worst.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

@@xManzi this is true, not really burning a bridge if it's a bridge to failed printers

@andreaspoulsen8017

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps This is how you get more views, being honest. Maybe it's even good if it gets to a point where you can buy the printers and then do an honest review without being sponsered. Just my hope as a viewer. Keep it real!

@1carlsworth

2 ай бұрын

My neptune 3 is great There is a learning curve, like anything, but my prints come out very well

Sorry your experienced has been so bad. My Elegoo Neptune 3 Max has been amazing.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I will definitely push through but glad you got a good one 🤘

@sunriseshell

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps In my experience their support is great. Much better than other manufacturers I've dealt with. Good luck!

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

@@sunriseshell oh I'm not complaining about their support, if anything I think their support is so strong because they know they are shipping out faulty things fast and know they have to fix themn

@sunriseshell

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps Oh yeah, no doubt! Unfortunately, shipping out things made fast and loose is par for the course for manufacturer's in this price range. Some other manufacturers unfortunately don't seem to have the best support or communication AND have bad QC.

any suggestion for large parts with the current printers out there

I have the Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro, and was having a ton of issues. Switched to Prusa Slicer and havn't had a single issue. Did a 48 hour print that was done without a hiccup. This thing doesn't come close to my Prusa Mk4 or Bambu A1, but it does TPU super well. Cheers!

@anthonylong5870

2 ай бұрын

Same I have the Neptune 4 (non plus or max) and use Prusa and Cura. I have had zero issues. have put about 100 prints through it since Jan. 1 I dont know if it is just the Plus and Max with issues because the regular Neptune 4 is really good for me

Ive had an Elegoo Neptune 2 for the last 3 ish years and have had minimal problems. The only things ive had to replace is the hot end because of user error when replaing the nozzle. I don't know where they went wrong in the model line after #2

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Not sure, maybe they got shocked by how much demand they were having cause they were so cheap.

To be honest, (you already know my stance on my elegoo) I remember having tons of issues with my 4 max when I got it. It hasn't had many issues in months, but It definitely opened my eyes seeing how many people like me who have had issues with the elegoos especially during the launch of the 4s. love my current one, but having to wait months before it was consistent is rough.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Super glad yours ended up working out, I don't wish my experience on anyone

having a lot of issues with neptune 4max too. Got my first Glob around the hot end last night.

My experience with elegoo's neptune 4 plus is that it worked perfectly for the first 2 weeks. After that it struggles to keep z axis consistent, often dragging into the prop mid print or bad first layers (even after bed tramming and all that). Shipped back and I'm getting a K1 max instead :/

turn off combing in cura so z-hopp is working... had that tipp under one of my videos and it helped me solve that nozzle draging for my neptune 4 pro

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

If I go back to cura I will definitely give it a try, I love curas first layer and rafts but paint on supports is so nice on prusa and orca 💀

@onkelwernerswerkstatt

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps i use both, cura and orca... i like them both. with my new rig i am only able to use orca 🙂👍

So my first printer was a Nep4. To say it was as easy as pull out and print would be a bit of a lie. It took me a minute to really go through the machine and tighten bolts, adjust the Z axis etc. I switched from Cura to Prusa and learned how to tune profiles and I genuinely have been having a good experience with it! Its been running non stop varied prints for my DnD campaigns and its doing great. While the downs definitely made me feel overwhelmed, being able to troubleshoot the printer was a journey in itself and made me more confident with tinkering on printers. I am sorry youve had so many issues, maybe I got one built on a Wednesday? Lol. Good luck and wish you the best.

@SaturdayMorningProps

14 күн бұрын

@@EmilyChuu very glad you got one of the good ones! 🙌 Are you doing big terrain pieces for your dnd stuff

The Neptune 3 was my first truly 'bad' 3d printer. I own a few different enders, a Prusa mk2.5s, an FLSun V400, plus help manage about another half dozen Prusa minis and some Folgertech printers at our makerspace. The Neptune just would not work consistently, regardless of how much troubleshooting and tuning I did. I will give kudos to Elegoo for taking it back after me sharing all I went through with their support team.

Thank you for your video, I will have to wait on recommending Elegoo printers. I have the NP 3+ and it has been a good experience since I came from a build kit of a seeme cnc delta printer. The only changes I made to the NP 3+ were to the build plate (wham bam). I don't have to use any glue stick for PLA prints any more. I used prusa slicer and then switched to orca slicer.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Definitely feel free to recommend based off your experiences, for me it's just been a nightmare but I definitely know people that have magic Neptunes 🤣

Thank you for your opinions and acute observations of The Elegoo Neptune 4 Max! I had exactly the same results you mention,nozzle drag,poor adhesion,ghosting among others and of course doubt and endless bed leveling! Well it's on it's way back to Amazon! I still would like a large format printer but for now I will try to work with my trusty Snapmaker J1s in producing multiple part assemblies instead of one large part.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I'm gonna try out the ender 5 plus and may upgrade it with a micro side hot end and see how I like it

I purchased a Neptune 4 Max after Christmas of 2023 as my first 3D Printer. I had no idea what any of the terms meant, I had just read 2-3 review sights and they said that this was the right one to get. Out of the box, it was pretty great! I started off using Ultimaker Cura and running a custom setup, but I was never confident that my settings were right. I ended up disabling my Mac's security codes to be able to install Elegoo Cura, which was WAY behind on the update version, but the 1st party settings made for some incredibly good prints in comparrison to my custom ones and so I used it going forward until the most recent update of Ultimaker Cura which included pre-loaded settings for the machine I was using. So far, with a few setting adjustments, it has also worked well. I have Orca Slicer, but haven't gotten to play with it too much. I have experienced everything you discribed here, so it 100% is accurate, but as a newbie who mostly makes small things (yet still bought the max), I'm pretty satisfied with it. I will likely continue to use it going forward but also be open to swapping it out down the road for a more advanced machine when I feel comfortable. Great Video, definitely subscribing.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the support, and welcome to the hobby! What kind of things are you printing?

@BrianMcGee

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps toys for my kids, a few functional parts for the house like custom silverware trays and spice racks.

I remember all the failed prints. That was a rough time

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, the soldier boy shield was the death of me

Yeah, I’m not exactly happy with my N4Max. When it works, it’s absolutely fantastic. That’s the caveat though: when it works. I swear I spend like 90% of my time calibrating the printer to be just perfect so I can get 1 good print out before I have to go and calibrate it again which takes forever due to the hot plate needing half an hour to saturate the heat properly. I’ve also had issues where for some reason, the extruder stops feeding in the filament properly which has caused print failures a good few hours or even a whole day later into a print. Also no matter what I do, I seem to always have some sort of bed adhesion issue: I know my extruder is at the correct height as the first layer comes out looking perfect, same goes for pressure advance and flow rate, but there’s usually just one tiny spot somewhere on the print that likes to peel up ever so slightly… I can tell that there’s a good printer in there, but the build quality and the half assed software has just ruined it.

vcore4 500mm is nice if you don't mind a kit

Everything I see about bed slingers above 300mm is just depressing. I really need a 400-500mm build plate but they're either too expensive or they're a bed slinger that can't be trusted to print that big reliably. Any hope Bamboo makes a 400+mm core x/y soon?

The 3 series if Elegoo has been amazing for me. I had a Neptune 3 and 3 plus. Loved both of them and only had an issue with the 3 after a year where I had to get a new bed but that was easy to get. My dad has a 4 plus and has had issues with firmware and it got to the point where they just had to send him a replacement. New one has worked fine though. Elegoo is still my first printer recommendation if you can’t afford a P1P or P1S

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Glad you've had good results with your 3's definitely don't wish this on anyone

@anthonylong5870

2 ай бұрын

Funny thing. I own a Neptune 4 (regular one) and a P1P. And the P1P has given me MASSIVE PROBLEMS. was down for a month while I continued to buy part after part trying to fix it (out of my own pocket) and Bambu never helped at all. Just kept telling me to "Make sure the USB C cable is plugged in correctly".......There is no USB C cable on the P1P......

I disagree maybe I got lucky but I’ve had noting but success with my elegoo Neptune 3 plus never had a problem with other then a clog that was my fault because I was messing with retraction

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Definitely good ones out there, but as I've had 4 different ones all with issues I could never recommend them. The quality control is completely lacking

Everyone seems to have a terrible time with elegoo customer service but my experience was actually really good. I broke the thermistor on my neptune 4's hot end(completely my fault) and contacted elegoo customer service. After a couple of emails they just sent me a replacement hotend for free. Whole process only took around a week.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

The customer service wasn't bad it was fine, it just ended up taking multiple things shipped out, their good customer service is almost a red flag that they know they are shipping out crap so they have to send replacements fast

@ThatGuy-mp9og

10 күн бұрын

Completly agree, I needed a thermistor as well since mine broke literally 1 month after using it. Contacted them during Chinese new year holiday and had somewhat fast response maybe a day between the emails. I then broke the screen on my jupiter se resin printer, completly my fault. They didn't have them avaliable to purchase on the site but sold one directly to me. Then a week later they added the screen to their site for half the price I payed, and they refunded me the difference(not including the expedited shipping) Elegoo service was amazing for me. I've had worst

Bought a N3pro and I had the exact thermal runaway issue, tried exactly what you did before I finally just asked them if I could just exchange it through Amazon. No response for a few days so I exchanged it anyways. Exchange works but I have a bed leveling issue on it as well and the calibration gives me the same issue no matter how many times I level it and fix the z axis. I watch the first few layers like crazy too

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Glad I'm not crazy!

For my first printer i was doubting wether i should go for the Elegoo neptune 4 or Anycubic Kobra max. I went for the Anycubic Kobra max I went for the Kobra max, and while i have very mixed feelings about it, it has never gotten any issues besides layer shifts. And their customer service has been absolutely great!

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I'll have to keep that in mind

I have like 10 elegoo neptune 2S neptune 3, pro, plus, max, Neptune 4 max no issues at all. Just updates and extruder issues but i problem solve for sure.

Was just about to grab a used N4max, kinda glad I didn't.. I run Ender 5 S1 works great.. Would like the larger build tho.

@SaturdayMorningProps

Ай бұрын

I truly can't recommend the elegoos, like I mentioned I actually went an bought an older ender 5 plus instead for volume

That’s crazy every single thing u said I’ve had the same issue I’m in my 5th printer cause they keep having to switch it out when it goes bad but I have to say when they are not having any issue it runs like a champ the only reason I bought it was cause I saw uncle Jesse’s video

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I've definitely had decent prints off it when it works as well, I just can't recommend them to anyone

bro I the Neptune 4 Max and I'm with you! I have finally dialed mine in, with nozzle drag and other issues. If I could help let me know

@SaturdayMorningProps

Ай бұрын

I have one Neptune 3 Max still that is printing fine since switching to orca, but I can tell its still gonna eat through these wheels on the bed quickly

I have a neptune 4 pro that i use orca slicer with and have no bed adhesion issues but yet i have issues with nozzle drag lol ive never had that issue with any other printer but over all my experience has been pretty ok

Had a lot of issues with my Sovol SV07 that were similar. In the middle of a long and arduous process to get parts atm :/

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Good luck, rooting for you 🤘

I had similar issues, led me to send all 3 Neptune 4's back and buy Voron's. Sensor-less homing would grind, pause resume sucked, hotend was notorious for clogging and extruder skipping. Couldn't install a proper instance Klipper because of the low quality MKS knockoff board and the (proprietary?) touch screen. The Cura nozzle drag was also awful. The input shaping was also hilariously bad since its a HUGE bedslinger, anything over the height it calibrates at would ring like crazy. Proprietary Nozzles was a poor choice and death blob's was also a huge issue at release, thankfully I didn't experience one. I had medium results with customer support, they took all 3 machines back, but only because I opened a support ticket 3 days into using them. Great Video, 10/10 opinion on these cheap slingers.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Definitely sorry to hear you had this bug of an issue, but glad I'm not the only one. Felt crazy not seeing anyone else talk about this.

Ive seriously had no problems with my elegoo printer! (Neptune 3 pro). I feel bad that so many others are struggling.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Definitely don't wish this on others 🤘 Glad you got a good one!

I have a 3 Max and had a 4 Pro. I got great prints out of both but it took hours of fiddling and cursing to get them to print right. The 4 got to where it would shake the leveling wheels off mid print. I got a Creality K1/Max and a Bambu A1/Mini and haven’t had a single problem that were not my own fault. I’m not surprised people are having trouble with the Giga.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I've been very tempted by the k1 max but reliability reviews were all over the place on that printer

@bryanfoster362

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps Understandable. I’m debating whether to upgrade the hotend on mine to a Microswiss. I put one on my K1 so I can put a hardened nozzle on it and print more abrasive stuff. I just ordered a P1S which should be here Wednesday. I’ve sworn off any more bed slingers. They’re just too finicky 😊

I own a K1 Max and P1S but also enjoy doing large builds too so decided to purchase a Elegoo Neptune 4 max 5 months ago. Had nothing but issues, bed leveling, firmware, slicing software, etc. Returned it and got a Anycubic Kobra 2 Max, been printing happily since. I couldn't agree more, stay far away from Elegoo FDM printers. Their resin printer pretty nice tho 😅

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

It's crazy how little people have talked about this but then how many similar problems I'm seeing in the comments 🤘 glad the kobras is treating you well

The only way i got mine to work well was a custom 5015 hotend + openept4une firmware

glad to know that me going with anycubic kobra plus wasnt a bad idea after my cr 10s crapping out on me

@SaturdayMorningProps

Ай бұрын

Yeah I've got a few friends who love theirs anycubics

I had the N3Pro and the Plus. Great machines. I never had any issues with them. The Neptune 4's however, ya those things are garbage.

I have an Elegoo Neptune 4 Plus. It's been giving me amazing quality prints. I love it.

Got N4Max -> It halts mid print randomly. Dealing with Elegoo support has been a nightmare, they keep saying software fixes hardware issues. They finally sent me a full replacement printer (they never shipped replacement parts they promised) -- The package is so beaten up that i don't have much hope for it to contain intact printer ... Yea haven't bothered to even unpack. Not sure if i even will, and just get Comgrow T500 instead ...

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear about that 😕

You have some bad luck! Between myself and seven friends we have 17 Neptune 3's and 4's combined (all sizes) and have had very few issues that we couldn't trace back to our own errors.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I just think their quality control is all over the place, because I've equally known as many to have issues, but glad you and your friends got good ones 🤘

I have an ender 3 pro, and that the fact that it can resume a power outage fine, and not the elegoo FDMs that cost a hundred dollers more (cad) is crazy

@honda-s2k

2 ай бұрын

the ender 3 pros are overpriced junk. the power resume feature sucks ballz, 2 of my ender 3 pros got the lovely blue screen of death after the power went out and hit the resume. had to replace the whole board on both. then donated them to the local library. the bl touch and the micro swiss direct drive are junk too. took them back to stock and didn't have any issues after that

I have never experienced any of the issues you are stating. I have had my Elegoo Neptune Max 3 for 2 years, and it has been my go-to workhorse, besides my Creality. The bed level has been normal, and there is no atrocious banding in prints, etc. It's been a solid printer. I have never bought a Bambu, so I can't compare, but with regular maintenance, my Max goes highly recommended.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like you got a good one! Glad you're having a much better time

I bought an Elegoo Neptune 3 Pro, they accidentally sent 2 and after a month of back and forth they told me to keep it, which is pretty nice of them! :) Other than that, The neptune 4 of mine has been prettyyyy bad, I updated the firmware and the noise multiplied if not TRIPLED.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

🤣 I would've been like 🤷🏻 there were two?!? Only saw one

Honestly, i love my neptune 4 max. Sure the print quality might not be the best but i mostly use it for props and helmets so im already going to be sanding the hell out of it. As long as the connection points print accuratly im happy with the quality

@SaturdayMorningProps

10 күн бұрын

Honestly almost zero of my complaints are with quality, yes the elegoo ghosts more than any printer ive ever used but slowing it down alleviates that and it zbands pretty hard at tall prints, but the bigger issues are the lack of quality control. Some people get great machines but loads get shipped out crap

right after this video WTF an Elegoo ad lol.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

That's hilarious, they had to do damage control

Creality K2 350 cube and multi colour enclosed, etc

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Worried about their reliability the k1 s had reviews all over the place

Add Elegoos resin printers to this. People are making videos saying the Mars 4 Ultra printers saved their lives 😂 but not that elegoo didnt implement things like an internal heater that is necessary to resin print and their customers have been asking for forever. Plus other manufacturers have add it to theirs. I have an 3Max for FDM & Mars3 for resin all with steep learning curve but once theyre dialed in their great. But both the steps to get there will turn even an experienced 3D person off so imagine a newcomer.😢

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I only have a little any cubic resin so I didn't know about elegoo resin but good to know

A good large budget printer are the voxelsb x3 plus

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I'll have to look into that!

I’m already offended. Ok now let me actually watch the video 😂

@JustGee3D

2 ай бұрын

On another note, that sucks about your experience with Elegoo, you're not the only one I've heard with these experiences!

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I definitely know people that love there Neptunes, this is just my experience

I DID back the giga. I am guessing I will have to shit can the OS and figure out a solid FULL bed, get a sheet for entire surface instead of the separate beds, and install auto leveling of some type.

@SaturdayMorningProps

19 күн бұрын

@@tombo7719 I'll be rooting for you 🙏 hope they get it all worked out before you get one

@tombo7719

19 күн бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps thanks! I am checking to see if I can cancel, but I think it has been sent already. If so, I will get it working, and just use the hardware w/ all the right stuff added. Hardware its pretty dope, but what I am hearing.. that it might not be worth the cost as is. Meh.. even if nothing else, I would be a HELL of a platform to put multiple tool heads on. We will see. thanks man, appreciate the video

I have 3 CR-10S, 2 CR-10 S5's, 1 CR-10S Pro v2 and some knock off CR-10 clones. All have been upgraded - BTT boards, Bondtech/Slice hot ends, Wham Bam surfaces. I've seen this trend of Klipper on bed slingers, which sounds good but Klipper doesn't seem to (at this writing) to account for the mass of the print as it gets bigger/taller. So the people with these fast Klipper bed slingers have all sorts of fails, bad ringing and just not so great print quality. Not to mention Elegoo and others use their own weird nozzles. I think my next machine to check out will be one of the RatRigs (500^3). They seem really solid. And Elegoo, Creality and the like come out with a new machine every 6 weeks. I won't bother listing AnyCubic because they are just the worst of the worst for me. Long story short, I bet you would've had way better luck with your original machines with some modest upgrades!

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

My buddy said elegoo puts out printers faster than Activision with call of duty, and many I completely forgot to mention the ringing at the top of tall prints

@WhereNerdyisCool

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps I mentioned you in my recent Iron Man Build video....hope you don't mind =) Yeah, you really have to be leery of these printers....remember most YT guys are paid to endorse these POS machines.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

@@WhereNerdyisCool heck yeah! Definitely don't mind 🤘 Hope the build is going well

Oooof. Hard to hear this. I have Elegoo Neptune 3 plus and *knock knock* Its best printer in this price category I have ever used and I am super satisfied. I am using Prusa Slicer and again *knock knock* in a year, I havent had single failed print. Straight from box, calibrated once. I must be super lucky

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

🙌 I wish I had that kind of experience, that's awesome

@3DATHENS-qi1tu

2 ай бұрын

and if you klipper the neptune3 you get magic But you need to know klipper and how to tune them elegoo printers are not for every one :)

@jan9154

2 ай бұрын

@@3DATHENS-qi1tu Now I am curious and will look up Klipper and how to tune elegoo printers. I will just wait with tuning until something breaks or I will get another printer as backup (y)

i had an Ender 3 for over a year, and decided to finally get a better printer (Neptune 4) and i must say, i had no issues with it, but i heard that The Plus and Max have a lot of problems... I once had a problem with the auto leveling not really working how it should, reset the printer and used a guide on google and it worked perfectly, in my experience the Elegoo Neptune 4 is the Ender 3 of the current time, Wonderful prints for a cheap price but the Tradeoff is, u will learn more about 3d printers as you may want because its not 100% reliable I Guess im so happy with mine because i only had an ender 3 before it so im not used to having a real good printer But the Bed Adhesion on mine is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Good, first layer 150mm/s wit hsmall details and it just sticks without any glue

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I'm Jealous! Glad you're having a great time with yours!

After the company sending me a motherboard, sensor, and new cables, my neptune 3 pro works very well. The prints are exceptional compared to my other printers. I guess its luck of the draw!

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Happy it ended up working out but yeah there quality control seems terrible

@BatmanIII

2 ай бұрын

@SaturdayMorningProps 100% agree. It definitely had a sensor issue out of the box. They just sent the cables and hotend board just in case. Since then, no issues. Would i buy another? I would if they went on sale for 200 or so. but i would be prepared for it arriving broken.

I have an Elegoo Neptune 3 Max, Creality Cr-10 Smart Pro, and a CR-10s. I've had my Neptune for almost a year and no failed prints, prints fast, and nice quality. Creality on the other hand stinks! My CR-10s was nothing but a thorn in my side. Now, the CR-10 Smart Pro isn't much better. My experience.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Glad the Neptune has been better for you, I do think I've heard the cr10 smarts can be frustrating.

I have never had any issues with my Neptune 4. Seriously not a single issue

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

That's great to hear! I honestly think it's more of a quality control issue. Just seems like they rush them out and rely on customer service to fix problems as quick as they can

wow, that sounds shockingly bad! please save yourself and get a qidi xmax3 for those large prints, you can also do abs which is better for props

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

I'm trying to work with them so fingers crossed for the future

@riba2233

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps sounds great :)

I dont know, I'm having a good experience with my 3 plus

A bed slinger on that size is insane.

@honda-s2k

2 ай бұрын

cr10 max is bigger and my neptune 3 max does great with no issues to date. done quite a few honda grom faring's and sxs doors on my 2 neptune 3 max's

@thiagoennes

2 ай бұрын

@@honda-s2k yeah. but anything larger than 350 should really have a bed that only moves on the z axis or not at all... the first time you make a heavier print it will suffer... I frequently make prints with over 3kilos of material, to sling that with a 6mm gt2 belt and a nema 17 motor is crazy. as far as i know the cr10 max's movement system is based on side loaded POM wheels!

Well mine is fine you must have the ie the 1st gen or the 2 gen elegoo told me this there are 4 gen of the neptune 4 pro, plus and max they have a problem with the bed and hot end new gen do not have this problem you are having mine working fine touch wood also i have a bambu P1s and a Creailty K1 and C

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Considering I've have 4 different ones all with issues, I'd say their quality control is just bad, some people get ones that work but seen a lot of crap out there

i have the neptune 3 max, had zero issues with i and bought it in feb. it is way better than any of the junk ender 3 and cr10 printers from creality. the neptune 4 series firmware has lots of issues hence why i bought the 3 max after watching frankly builts review on it. if your having problem with the bed eating the wheels......the wheels are way to tight and need loosed up, my ender 3 v2 had that problem...super easy to fix. they are not plug and play out of the box. some things will need tightened or loosened.... the machines don't have problems ...its you user error problems. also the print resume is amazing. the power has gone out 29 times in two months thanks to the lovely tornados and strong storms that have ripped thru ohio in the since the end of feb not once had any issues with the resume feature. next upgrade is a 1500 watt upc.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Not sure if you made it truly through the video or were listening before typing about the wheels because the printer bed was never getting tight enough constantly had wiggle no matter how tight the wheels were even after disassembling the entire print bed. The printer would immediately have a loose bed after one print and the looseness then destroyed the wheels. Thermal runaway issue never was fixed at all and was also not a user error. Glad yours works well but their quality control is absolutely crap

@honda-s2k

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps i was still watching the video as im typing. lol......lots of people fail to check to make sure each wheel is lined up properly with the slot. if one wheel is off the v slot by .1mm........no matter how much u tighten them wheels around the bed it will always be loose and wobble, never level correctly and destroy all the wheels. i had this problem on my ender 3 v2. thats was a user error. things get knocked out of place during shipping.....have you seen how they throw boxes on the ups and fedex trucks????? willing to bet you didn't check at all to make sure all the bed wheels were aligned in the v slots properly and just gave up.....

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

@@honda-s2k again I mentioned that I stripped the entire printer down and replaced them and the issue persisted 🤘 glad your elegoo works man but you keep assuming things when they have already been answered.

you are cursed with elegoo that a damn nightmare

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

It has been a series of unfortunate events 🤣

I got lucky as my elegoo is amazing I honestly never had a problem with mine

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Definitely know people who love theirs, definitely glad yours is awesome. It seems like their quality control is the issue just wild I had 4 all with different issues

@thetoytrove754

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps Yeah same got an ender and it was a piece of crap. Neptune auto leveling is insane!

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

@@thetoytrove754 I appreciate that you still watched the vid even while you've had good experiences 🙏 What have you been printing?

@thetoytrove754

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps La Calavera Poseable Action Figures and a Deadpool and wolverine Helmets( The helmets has some slight artifacting but youre sanding it anyway usually so it wasnt bad at all but for smaller action figures around 5 inches its insanely good detail. The only thing in your video I also had an issue with is about every 3-4 prints i have to reset the z offset and re level the bed but its a small issue. Hot swapping has been no issue for me.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

@@thetoytrove754 la calaveras figures look amazing I've wanted to do his sentinel forever

Didn't buy it, thanks for saving me the time lol. I had good experience with my Neptune 4 Max so I can't relate.

Just so you know 3d printers on cheaper side are not mean more for people who know how to tinker with them... think of them like buying a project car.... All that said these issues you have had do and often happen for people with Creality printers... You got lucky... but also unlucky with your Elegoo printers... The next thing is use something like ORCA slicer ... its the best out of all slicers currently. And lastly DO NOT EVER EVER EVER use resume ... it is trash for most printers even when it works correctly Even the CR10 ... it is like you got super lucky with your CR-10 and that tainted how you expect cheap printers to work... Anyways you should always have a UPS attach to your printer preferable something like a 1500AV so it can run through a power outage. If you want a fantastic experience get expensive printer like a bambu labs or something like that. But Most printers can be made to do good with Orca slicer. It is free and opensource. The larger your print area also the more likely you are to have issue in general ... as that is just the nature of FDM.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Not sure if you actually watched the full video cause I mention one that I use orca slicer with it and two that I have a bambu as well

@jashe369

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps I never said you didn't use orca slicer. I am giving you a list of things... However now that your bring it up that does remind me you said Orca slicers causes bed adhesion issues... That in fact can't happen unless you changed your printer or filament settings for first layer printing or added custom starting gcode for Z offset. I can tell you out of the box Orca works great with both my P1P, my Elegoo neptune 4 plus, and It also works great with Sovol printers too. Sovol is part of Creality FYI... Most of the time bed adhesion issues are poor leveling. The printer auto levels which is great, but you still need to dial in all 4 corners of the bed. Then after that You have to clean and I mean clean the crap out of the Spring steel sheet when you first get the printer. You don't use IPA, you need to use a Soap that breaks up oils such as a castile soap like dawn dish soap. Make sure you are wearing gloves for the process as you don't want to add finger oils... Lastly if you still have an adhesion issue apply glue stick... it doesn't hurt and it helps very much. FYI I Am not trying to slam you or stating you are wrong. I am just saying getting a budget printer comes with a lot of things you need to keep in mind. My Main issue with Elegoo is while their printers are actually really good designs. Their QC on FDM printers is trash. There is also the fact that good luck finding documentation about doing stuff with the Elegoo fdm printers. Mean while Creality has a ton of people modding their printers so lots of people make videos about it. I have been in the 3d printing space for about 8 years now. I can say for sure almost all modern budget printers are about 60% away from easy of consumer use. The thing is most budget 3d printers are missing one or more of these things 1. Quality control 2. Support 3. Software 4. Quality parts/ Good enough parts 5. Ease of use 6. Print it and forget it (IE klipper with a camera and a spigetti detection, and wireless printing) The Thing that can solve a lot of that is the Elegoo neptune 4 or 4 plus ... out of the box this printer has the price and quality mostly down, but you still need a usb camera. Then they need to add a quick setup instruction that includes cleaning the Spring steal sheet. Then they should bundle orca slicer explaining it is open source and included free (so they don't get in trouble for including it). After all that They need to step up their support game, Maybe even try to push smaller youtubers to make videos not about their printer but about modding and customizing their printer. Creality is about their too, but they have a lot more issues to resolve first. Like simplifying the amount of printers they currently sell They have a catalog of over 30 printers most of which they still make and sell, but half they don't support anymore. The community around the printer really stepped up. However if we want printers for people who's hobby isn't tinkering with electronics and the like, we need to have a printer that is unbox and go. This is where bambu labs is great and their A1 (non-mini) is baiscally 400 USD printer that is as good as p1p but at a much more reasonable price. A lot of these Cheaper companies like Elegoo, Sovol/Creality, Anycubic, etc; need to really get their game up because comapnies like Bambu Labs are comping for the cheap printer market and building things with quality like the A1 Mini ... it is already in striking distance of the elegoo neptune 4 and is better and faster and its onlly 180 mm x 180mm instead of 220 mm x 200 mm... and for most people it is good enough.

Ghosting -> Belt tension + input shaping

@SirLANsalot

2 ай бұрын

he probably never ran, or re-ran the input shaping that is built into the printer. As for large prints, there is a setting you have to check mark while the print is starting (under settings > adjust) called SPEED ADAPTIVE MODE. This is for tall and otherwise large prints that will get heavier over the course of a print. This mode SLOWS the print down gradually as the layer height increases, as even input shaping will only compensate for so much.

I have both the 3 and the 4 Max & have so many of the same issues!.....Hoping Bambu or spmeone comes out with a larger Core XY at least 400x400x 400 or close to it

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Sad you have these issues too but glad I'm not alone, definitely am craving a big bambu

Elegoo and Anycubic printers are for tinkerers, sometimes you'll get a printer that runs perfectly straight out the box but the problems will come sooner or later unless you're an experienced beginner or tinker then they will never come because you'll have already remedied what would cause the problem to begin with

Disliked because this is purely a "negativity sells" video.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

How is speaking of my experience with them a negativity sales video? Why even take the time to come watch when you can see in my title and thumbnail my opinion so you knew what you were getting?

I stick with Creality on FDM printers. Elegoo has some really great Resin printers.

@SaturdayMorningProps

2 ай бұрын

Definitely why I went and got an ender 5 plus, I've heard good things about elegoos resin printers but I've only owned an anycubic

@spendymcspendy

2 ай бұрын

@@SaturdayMorningProps I have a few Anycubic resin printers but they just have not worked for me

@riba2233

2 ай бұрын

creality is also trash

3D printing isn't for everyone. It requires thousands and thousands of hours learning, troubleshooting, and tinkering. I for some reason like that part of it, so I enjoy the challenge when things go wrong. You will run into these kinds of issues no matter what printer you buy, so imagine if you spent $1600+ on a printer that gave you the same issues. lol

@Antassium

2 ай бұрын

This is an incredibly inane take. Good luck with that. 😂

The neptune pro 4 they sent me was a piece of literal trash. Had to use paypal to finally get my money back