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@lipamanka Жыл бұрын
this video is much better than most videos I've seen about toki pona lmao. I think it's a little misleading to say "thousands of speakers claim improve mental health" because so far, we don't have much more than a couple thousand speakers at all, most of which haven't really reported that. But there's some truth there, and I can say that for me at least it's totally true. The "30 hours" claim is false and propagated by an Atlantic article that a lot of other articles copied it, and I'd say it's a false claim. Also, it's just as easy to think about negative stuff in toki pona. Your pronunciation is pretty good as well, and your translations are great.
@lipamanka
Жыл бұрын
@JustASurvivalcraftWolf a sina wawa ni lon toki pona la o toki tawa mi kepeken toki pona la mi sona e ni. sina toki e lon anu seme. toki sina li pakala anu seme. pilin mi la sina sona ala. sina wawa mute sama mi la o toki.
@lipamanka
Жыл бұрын
@JustASurvivalcraftWolf not for you, because you aren't fluent. For me, a fluent speaker who's been speaking for three years, it is fairly easy.
@jan_Masewin
10 ай бұрын
I'd just revise it to say all the grammar and vocabulary can be crammed within two days, but any degree of actual fluency takes weeks to months
@DuckinMyHat
10 ай бұрын
@@jan_Masewin I second this, but it took me the past 3 days rather than 2. tenpo lili la sina ken kama sona e toki pona! jan Masewin li toki e lon! jan mute ante li kama sona e toki pona la pona mute : )
@wiegraf9009
8 ай бұрын
A language you can't think negative thoughts in would be both quite useless and also quite impressive
@AllanLimosin11 ай бұрын
I get it. It's like there are missing concepts but for the best, so speakers have to elaborate in order to understand themselves and the situation better. The idea is very smart!
@Theuncletoeticklingtoddler5 ай бұрын
Seeing people in the comments FLUENT in this language is amazing. Can’t wait to be one of them
@Ainslie0827
4 ай бұрын
real same!
@little1133
3 ай бұрын
o kama sona pona! im late intermediate right now, although i might have dropped back down to intermediate because i haven't used it in a while
@Theuncletoeticklingtoddler
3 ай бұрын
@@little1133 guess what? Just bought the Toki Pona dictionary! Cant wait to start. I held it off because of schoolwork but I hope I can learn it!! :D
@little1133
2 ай бұрын
@@Theuncletoeticklingtoddler awesome!!!
@Glammetall
28 күн бұрын
@@Theuncletoeticklingtoddler how is it going? :)
@IamSamys Жыл бұрын
Some things to complete the information in the video somewhat: - not the smallest language, only the smallest that has an ISO 369-3 code - I'd like to see the reports of 1000s of people claiming that benefit - 30 hours (in total, not counting pauses) can work, but not a weekend to become conversational imo sona mi la sitelen tawa ni li pana ala e sona ale. - lon la toki pona li lili, taso toki ante li lili mute a. a taso toki ante ni li jo ala e nimi ISO. - jan ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale li toki ala toki e kama pi pilin pona tan toki pona taso? mi wile sona e ni a. sona ni li kama tan seme? - tenpo ilo suli mute luka luka li ken a pana e sona pi toki pona. taso sina weka tan pali sona la sina moku la sina lape la ni li lon ala tenpo pi toki mi. sina wile toki tawa jan ante la tenpo suno tu wan taso li ken ala pana e sona ale. ni li pilin mi.
@mikhailshishin5701
Жыл бұрын
What’s the smallest language
@IamSamys
Жыл бұрын
@@mikhailshishin5701 depends on how you look at things. There's a constructed language called U that has a single word but it only ever means one thing. There are a whole lot of minilangs that can range from 4 to a couple of hundreds. This video is about the only one of those to have an ISO 639-3 language code: toki pona
@ImDayv27
3 ай бұрын
@@IamSamyswhat does ale ale ale ale ale mean? Does it mean 1000? xD
@IamSamys
3 ай бұрын
@@ImDayv27 500. toki pona's number systems is additional, so if you have ale=100, that makes what you said 100+100+100+100+100. (There's an extension to that counting system that can shorten down very very big numbers above a couple of hundreds, but it's backwards compatible, so in that extension, you also said 500)
@ImDayv27
3 ай бұрын
@@IamSamys ohh I see. That's interesting. Imma do more research about toki pona! Btw I didn't know that the term conlang existed before realizing that i am not the only weird one who makes up their own language xD. Happy to see that there's a community for it!!
@Dhi_Bee Жыл бұрын
I never even bother learning anything remotely conlang, but I might actually at least try thanks to this new knowledge. Thanks!
@randompost4180
7 ай бұрын
Listen we as people are always changing so don’t be to great to learn a completely different language even if it’s a “conlang” nothing stays the same forever, English won’t be English as we know it 500 to 1000 years from now.
@little1133
3 ай бұрын
o kama sona pona!
@OlivierWojewodzki2 ай бұрын
It is also a great stepping stone for learning other languages. Much like the recorder is a great instrument to start off with for learning other instruments, Toki Pona allows you to learn the very basics of language learning to learn other languages that are more complex.
@adammontgomery79802 ай бұрын
Everyone else adding words to language; toki pona gets it done with 120
@jownadel1526
2 ай бұрын
lon la mi mute li pana a e nimi mute a tawa toki pona a a We absolutely add more words to toki pona lol
@the_unforseen822411 ай бұрын
Wait till bro finds out about the ~30 word toki “ponidos” toki pona ists have made 😂. pona tawa sina!
@etruscanetwork
9 ай бұрын
tuki tiki
@the_unforseen8224
9 ай бұрын
@@etruscanetwork my thoughts exactly
@Someone-ov1ro
9 ай бұрын
Everyone here speaking in Toki pona and i have no clue 😭
@etruscanetwork
9 ай бұрын
@@Someone-ov1ro li li tuki pula ala, li li tuki tiki
@randompost4180
7 ай бұрын
@@etruscanetworkgoogle actually translated it 😮
@dalubwikaan161 Жыл бұрын
Bro. I love your accent on speaking Toki Pona. And I swear. You are damn handsome! You are eye-catching for me.
@mikhailshishin5701
Жыл бұрын
Ikr
@Compass.the.Jackal Жыл бұрын
mi toki e toki pona!
@little1133
3 ай бұрын
pona mute! sina sin ala sin tawa toki pona?
@SahaCaruАй бұрын
a! sina pona tan ni: sitelen kama li toki e pona! (ni li kalama e nasa tawa mi 💀)
@bunnytwo5 ай бұрын
my language that i sadly ended had 110 words (with 9 letters)
@mateussphilippi50299 ай бұрын
I'm in day 2 learning toki pona. It's pretty great.
@MikelthePickel5 ай бұрын
What about ka? Only has six words
@FrauHaferniehl
4 ай бұрын
_Should i create a new language, with 5 words ...._
@swagless227Ай бұрын
newspeak good ending
@krishacz9 ай бұрын
lukin la sina pona kin! nice to see an actually informative video about toki pona, Half as Interesting made a really messy one full of misinfo. i would still say that 30 hours is too short to truly learn the language but at least what you said was pronounced properly and had correct grammar.
@dougules Жыл бұрын
sina toki e toki pona lon tenpo lili taso. O toki e toki pona lon sitelen tawa wan ali.
@_itssoha_4 ай бұрын
2 videos and i already know what pona means
@LucasBucur5 ай бұрын
mi sona e toki pona! toki pona li pona tawa mi! o sona e toki pona! mi wile wile sina sona e toki pona.
@ozakigamestudio10 ай бұрын
sina sona e toki pona, anu seme?
@jr.jackrabbit10
10 ай бұрын
mi sona mute, taso mi toki lili. tan la, mi jo ala e jan pona tawa toki.
@METRIKVX
9 ай бұрын
sina o toki lili!
@jr.jackrabbit10
9 ай бұрын
@@METRIKVX mi o toki lili? sina toki e ni tawa mi? mi awen pali e ni.
@METRIKVX
9 ай бұрын
@@jr.jackrabbit10 mi o sona ala e toki mi
@haXXiGD
5 ай бұрын
hi ozaki
@burntoven939 ай бұрын
Toki, jan pona mi!
@ecoconatus808911 ай бұрын
Pona!
@janekpk15444 ай бұрын
Eyes and leg are cery simmilar to Polish - oko, noga
@toonatr356
22 күн бұрын
Because they are cognates! Sonja Lang derived toki pona's words "oko" and "luka" from Serbo-Croatian words which are related to the ones in Polish! tan ona li nimi pi mama sama! jan Sonja li lanpan e nimi "oko", e nimi "luka" tan nimi pi toki Sepo-Kuwatija. toki Sepo-Kuwatija en toki Poli li jo e mama sama a!
@suomeabooАй бұрын
sitelen tawa ni li pona. toki pona kin li pona. this video is good. toki pona also is good.
@Skylar-t9r4 ай бұрын
Shi Has left the chat*
@lilamdan5 ай бұрын
It's like in nineteen eighty four ?
@Nerdy1729
3 ай бұрын
no, newspeak in 1984 was made to be unusable to suppress the thoughts of the masses. Unlike in newspeak, you can talk about anything in toki pona (and it isn't enforced by the government.)
@JacekWisniewski-um9rt2 ай бұрын
toki pona li toki nanapa wan tawa mi. toki ni o kama toki ma a!
@IsaaacWithThreeA
2 күн бұрын
mi sama ala. toki pona li ike pona e nimi kulupu mute. taso mi ken lukin la toki pona e pona tawa jan mute.
@Sox_ate_socks4 ай бұрын
Um actually ☝️🤓 it's 136
@user-fn6vg1cy1q7 ай бұрын
mi sona e toki pona
@jimiwills9 ай бұрын
❤
@HanzCastroyearsago9 ай бұрын
But english has only 26 words, and the words can be used to form big words which can be used to form sentences
@Gatoblud
3 ай бұрын
letters, not words
@HanzCastroyearsago
3 ай бұрын
Oh the difference is that each word in toki pona conveys meaning to the ‘big word’ while english letters don’t convey meaning to the word
@stanislok.7106 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@cinthiarosasromero523911 ай бұрын
Ō toki pana🤦♂️
@bunnytwo8 ай бұрын
well yesterday i made the new smallest language with 110 words and 9 letters
@little11333 ай бұрын
just so you know the 30 hours thing is not true. it's pretty simple to learn all the words and grammar (still more than 30 hours though) but fluency takes a lot longer. still less time than a natural language though
@jackcollins87 Жыл бұрын
Primo
@ImpossibleEvan Жыл бұрын
Not even close to the smallest language, I made one with only 60, and a language that only takes an hour to learn.
@srotoswinipaul2341
Жыл бұрын
Omg teach me please
@ImpossibleEvan
Жыл бұрын
@@srotoswinipaul2341 Do you really want to learn it?
@srotoswinipaul2341
Жыл бұрын
@@ImpossibleEvan yeah dude not kidding
@ImpossibleEvan
Жыл бұрын
@@srotoswinipaul2341 Sorry, I have literally never had anyone care, I will send the full document soon.
@srotoswinipaul2341
Жыл бұрын
@@ImpossibleEvan I'll love to go through the document, tell me when you are ready to send
@rexcapra Жыл бұрын
Ok
@mintz4571
Жыл бұрын
Ok
@etruscanetwork
9 ай бұрын
Ok
@Europesigma Жыл бұрын
I remember learning it about 2 years ago, toki pona (A great language, not a language of good, good language, etc.
@sauceboss7165 Жыл бұрын
I personally hate conlangs with a passion
@sucre4523
Жыл бұрын
me too. i think they’re fine in some instances, but they’re cringy because they’re not real. another issue i have with them is that they potentially take away learners from smaller/endangered languages. lastly, i think that they’re pretty useless.
@risharddaniels1762
Жыл бұрын
@@sucre4523 if there are thousands of speakers, how is it not real? It’s more real than natural languages that have died and that nobody speaks. If they can communicate, i don’t see what issue you could have with it other than some silly bias. Also, most people who get into conlangs are interested in linguistics in general, so no need to gatekeep.
@user-ty5tc2yc7w
Жыл бұрын
@@risharddaniels1762 I AGREE
@ericm9495
Жыл бұрын
@@sucre4523 Do you really think there are people out there who would have learned an obscure endangered language, if it weren't for conlangs? I'm gonna learn this toki pona now, but its not taking me away from learning a natural small endangered language, since I wasn't intent on learning one to begin with. If anything I'm more inclined to learn about endangered languages now.
@Pining_for_the_fjords
11 ай бұрын
@@sucre4523Conlangs aren't always about learning them or using them to communicate. Many are created simply for the enjoyment of the creator or to test certain ideas.
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this video is much better than most videos I've seen about toki pona lmao. I think it's a little misleading to say "thousands of speakers claim improve mental health" because so far, we don't have much more than a couple thousand speakers at all, most of which haven't really reported that. But there's some truth there, and I can say that for me at least it's totally true. The "30 hours" claim is false and propagated by an Atlantic article that a lot of other articles copied it, and I'd say it's a false claim. Also, it's just as easy to think about negative stuff in toki pona. Your pronunciation is pretty good as well, and your translations are great.
@lipamanka
Жыл бұрын
@JustASurvivalcraftWolf a sina wawa ni lon toki pona la o toki tawa mi kepeken toki pona la mi sona e ni. sina toki e lon anu seme. toki sina li pakala anu seme. pilin mi la sina sona ala. sina wawa mute sama mi la o toki.
@lipamanka
Жыл бұрын
@JustASurvivalcraftWolf not for you, because you aren't fluent. For me, a fluent speaker who's been speaking for three years, it is fairly easy.
@jan_Masewin
10 ай бұрын
I'd just revise it to say all the grammar and vocabulary can be crammed within two days, but any degree of actual fluency takes weeks to months
@DuckinMyHat
10 ай бұрын
@@jan_Masewin I second this, but it took me the past 3 days rather than 2. tenpo lili la sina ken kama sona e toki pona! jan Masewin li toki e lon! jan mute ante li kama sona e toki pona la pona mute : )
@wiegraf9009
8 ай бұрын
A language you can't think negative thoughts in would be both quite useless and also quite impressive
I get it. It's like there are missing concepts but for the best, so speakers have to elaborate in order to understand themselves and the situation better. The idea is very smart!
Seeing people in the comments FLUENT in this language is amazing. Can’t wait to be one of them
@Ainslie0827
4 ай бұрын
real same!
@little1133
3 ай бұрын
o kama sona pona! im late intermediate right now, although i might have dropped back down to intermediate because i haven't used it in a while
@Theuncletoeticklingtoddler
3 ай бұрын
@@little1133 guess what? Just bought the Toki Pona dictionary! Cant wait to start. I held it off because of schoolwork but I hope I can learn it!! :D
@little1133
2 ай бұрын
@@Theuncletoeticklingtoddler awesome!!!
@Glammetall
28 күн бұрын
@@Theuncletoeticklingtoddler how is it going? :)
Some things to complete the information in the video somewhat: - not the smallest language, only the smallest that has an ISO 369-3 code - I'd like to see the reports of 1000s of people claiming that benefit - 30 hours (in total, not counting pauses) can work, but not a weekend to become conversational imo sona mi la sitelen tawa ni li pana ala e sona ale. - lon la toki pona li lili, taso toki ante li lili mute a. a taso toki ante ni li jo ala e nimi ISO. - jan ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale li toki ala toki e kama pi pilin pona tan toki pona taso? mi wile sona e ni a. sona ni li kama tan seme? - tenpo ilo suli mute luka luka li ken a pana e sona pi toki pona. taso sina weka tan pali sona la sina moku la sina lape la ni li lon ala tenpo pi toki mi. sina wile toki tawa jan ante la tenpo suno tu wan taso li ken ala pana e sona ale. ni li pilin mi.
@mikhailshishin5701
Жыл бұрын
What’s the smallest language
@IamSamys
Жыл бұрын
@@mikhailshishin5701 depends on how you look at things. There's a constructed language called U that has a single word but it only ever means one thing. There are a whole lot of minilangs that can range from 4 to a couple of hundreds. This video is about the only one of those to have an ISO 639-3 language code: toki pona
@ImDayv27
3 ай бұрын
@@IamSamyswhat does ale ale ale ale ale mean? Does it mean 1000? xD
@IamSamys
3 ай бұрын
@@ImDayv27 500. toki pona's number systems is additional, so if you have ale=100, that makes what you said 100+100+100+100+100. (There's an extension to that counting system that can shorten down very very big numbers above a couple of hundreds, but it's backwards compatible, so in that extension, you also said 500)
@ImDayv27
3 ай бұрын
@@IamSamys ohh I see. That's interesting. Imma do more research about toki pona! Btw I didn't know that the term conlang existed before realizing that i am not the only weird one who makes up their own language xD. Happy to see that there's a community for it!!
I never even bother learning anything remotely conlang, but I might actually at least try thanks to this new knowledge. Thanks!
@randompost4180
7 ай бұрын
Listen we as people are always changing so don’t be to great to learn a completely different language even if it’s a “conlang” nothing stays the same forever, English won’t be English as we know it 500 to 1000 years from now.
@little1133
3 ай бұрын
o kama sona pona!
It is also a great stepping stone for learning other languages. Much like the recorder is a great instrument to start off with for learning other instruments, Toki Pona allows you to learn the very basics of language learning to learn other languages that are more complex.
Everyone else adding words to language; toki pona gets it done with 120
@jownadel1526
2 ай бұрын
lon la mi mute li pana a e nimi mute a tawa toki pona a a We absolutely add more words to toki pona lol
Wait till bro finds out about the ~30 word toki “ponidos” toki pona ists have made 😂. pona tawa sina!
@etruscanetwork
9 ай бұрын
tuki tiki
@the_unforseen8224
9 ай бұрын
@@etruscanetwork my thoughts exactly
@Someone-ov1ro
9 ай бұрын
Everyone here speaking in Toki pona and i have no clue 😭
@etruscanetwork
9 ай бұрын
@@Someone-ov1ro li li tuki pula ala, li li tuki tiki
@randompost4180
7 ай бұрын
@@etruscanetworkgoogle actually translated it 😮
Bro. I love your accent on speaking Toki Pona. And I swear. You are damn handsome! You are eye-catching for me.
@mikhailshishin5701
Жыл бұрын
Ikr
mi toki e toki pona!
@little1133
3 ай бұрын
pona mute! sina sin ala sin tawa toki pona?
a! sina pona tan ni: sitelen kama li toki e pona! (ni li kalama e nasa tawa mi 💀)
my language that i sadly ended had 110 words (with 9 letters)
I'm in day 2 learning toki pona. It's pretty great.
What about ka? Only has six words
@FrauHaferniehl
4 ай бұрын
_Should i create a new language, with 5 words ...._
newspeak good ending
lukin la sina pona kin! nice to see an actually informative video about toki pona, Half as Interesting made a really messy one full of misinfo. i would still say that 30 hours is too short to truly learn the language but at least what you said was pronounced properly and had correct grammar.
sina toki e toki pona lon tenpo lili taso. O toki e toki pona lon sitelen tawa wan ali.
2 videos and i already know what pona means
mi sona e toki pona! toki pona li pona tawa mi! o sona e toki pona! mi wile wile sina sona e toki pona.
sina sona e toki pona, anu seme?
@jr.jackrabbit10
10 ай бұрын
mi sona mute, taso mi toki lili. tan la, mi jo ala e jan pona tawa toki.
@METRIKVX
9 ай бұрын
sina o toki lili!
@jr.jackrabbit10
9 ай бұрын
@@METRIKVX mi o toki lili? sina toki e ni tawa mi? mi awen pali e ni.
@METRIKVX
9 ай бұрын
@@jr.jackrabbit10 mi o sona ala e toki mi
@haXXiGD
5 ай бұрын
hi ozaki
Toki, jan pona mi!
Pona!
Eyes and leg are cery simmilar to Polish - oko, noga
@toonatr356
22 күн бұрын
Because they are cognates! Sonja Lang derived toki pona's words "oko" and "luka" from Serbo-Croatian words which are related to the ones in Polish! tan ona li nimi pi mama sama! jan Sonja li lanpan e nimi "oko", e nimi "luka" tan nimi pi toki Sepo-Kuwatija. toki Sepo-Kuwatija en toki Poli li jo e mama sama a!
sitelen tawa ni li pona. toki pona kin li pona. this video is good. toki pona also is good.
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It's like in nineteen eighty four ?
@Nerdy1729
3 ай бұрын
no, newspeak in 1984 was made to be unusable to suppress the thoughts of the masses. Unlike in newspeak, you can talk about anything in toki pona (and it isn't enforced by the government.)
toki pona li toki nanapa wan tawa mi. toki ni o kama toki ma a!
@IsaaacWithThreeA
2 күн бұрын
mi sama ala. toki pona li ike pona e nimi kulupu mute. taso mi ken lukin la toki pona e pona tawa jan mute.
Um actually ☝️🤓 it's 136
mi sona e toki pona
❤
But english has only 26 words, and the words can be used to form big words which can be used to form sentences
@Gatoblud
3 ай бұрын
letters, not words
@HanzCastroyearsago
3 ай бұрын
Oh the difference is that each word in toki pona conveys meaning to the ‘big word’ while english letters don’t convey meaning to the word
Lmao
Ō toki pana🤦♂️
well yesterday i made the new smallest language with 110 words and 9 letters
just so you know the 30 hours thing is not true. it's pretty simple to learn all the words and grammar (still more than 30 hours though) but fluency takes a lot longer. still less time than a natural language though
Primo
Not even close to the smallest language, I made one with only 60, and a language that only takes an hour to learn.
@srotoswinipaul2341
Жыл бұрын
Omg teach me please
@ImpossibleEvan
Жыл бұрын
@@srotoswinipaul2341 Do you really want to learn it?
@srotoswinipaul2341
Жыл бұрын
@@ImpossibleEvan yeah dude not kidding
@ImpossibleEvan
Жыл бұрын
@@srotoswinipaul2341 Sorry, I have literally never had anyone care, I will send the full document soon.
@srotoswinipaul2341
Жыл бұрын
@@ImpossibleEvan I'll love to go through the document, tell me when you are ready to send
Ok
@mintz4571
Жыл бұрын
Ok
@etruscanetwork
9 ай бұрын
Ok
I remember learning it about 2 years ago, toki pona (A great language, not a language of good, good language, etc.
I personally hate conlangs with a passion
@sucre4523
Жыл бұрын
me too. i think they’re fine in some instances, but they’re cringy because they’re not real. another issue i have with them is that they potentially take away learners from smaller/endangered languages. lastly, i think that they’re pretty useless.
@risharddaniels1762
Жыл бұрын
@@sucre4523 if there are thousands of speakers, how is it not real? It’s more real than natural languages that have died and that nobody speaks. If they can communicate, i don’t see what issue you could have with it other than some silly bias. Also, most people who get into conlangs are interested in linguistics in general, so no need to gatekeep.
@user-ty5tc2yc7w
Жыл бұрын
@@risharddaniels1762 I AGREE
@ericm9495
Жыл бұрын
@@sucre4523 Do you really think there are people out there who would have learned an obscure endangered language, if it weren't for conlangs? I'm gonna learn this toki pona now, but its not taking me away from learning a natural small endangered language, since I wasn't intent on learning one to begin with. If anything I'm more inclined to learn about endangered languages now.
@Pining_for_the_fjords
11 ай бұрын
@@sucre4523Conlangs aren't always about learning them or using them to communicate. Many are created simply for the enjoyment of the creator or to test certain ideas.
Nope. I made a language called, Mobado.