The Wonderland Murders & The Secret History of Hollywood INTERVIEW-Detectives Tom Lange & Bob Souza

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LAPD Detectives Tom Lange and Bob Souza, the lead investigators of The Wonderland Murders discuss the case and the new podcast THE WONDERLAND MURDERS AND THE SECRET HISTORY OF HOLLYWOOD with Cherry the Geek Los Angeles TV's Joe Vanourney.
THE WONDERLAND MURDERS AND THE SECRET HISTORY OF HOLLYWOOD is an 8-part Audible Original Documentary which was released on July 1st, 2021, which is EXACTLY 40 years after the Wonderland Murders occurred (July 1st, 1981). The podcast is written, narrated, and produced by famed crime writer Michael Connelly (writer of the Bosch books and The Lincoln Lawyer).

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  • @jcollins1305
    @jcollins13054 ай бұрын

    Tom and Bob, thank you for your service. As soon as I heard the first jury was 11-1 I knew there was a bribed juror. What a shame, that Nash, Dials and Holmes never answered for their crimes while alive. That being said, as I say, “Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas, and Sometimes you dont wake up”

  • @lotsofthisandthat9791
    @lotsofthisandthat9791 Жыл бұрын

    Ask the detectives their opinion on why The Nash didn’t kill Holmes after killing the Wonderland Gang.

  • @giovanna722

    @giovanna722

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe he thought he'd be of more use to him alive.

  • @MRPERFECT_79
    @MRPERFECT_792 жыл бұрын

    Ive read malice in wonderland. I highly recommend it to those who are interested in this case.

  • @scottdavidson526

    @scottdavidson526

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I'll have to check it out.

  • @soso8824

    @soso8824

    5 ай бұрын

    👍 Thanks. Four On The Floor is also a good book on the murders at Wonderland.

  • @motowngirl5891
    @motowngirl5891 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you detectives for all your hard work, Jury’s a lot of times fell sorry for men

  • @pauljosham2551
    @pauljosham2551 Жыл бұрын

    They need to do a new movie on this .Val kilmer done a great job of playing John Holmes ,perhaps a new Netflix film on it

  • @connie4937
    @connie49378 ай бұрын

    Great interview! Very professional. There’s no question Nash ordered the murders, I’m interested to see who actually carried them out. It’s just odd to me that none of the players would name them even on their death beds

  • @jcollins1305

    @jcollins1305

    4 ай бұрын

    Must have been some very bad dudes that would have taken it out on the surviving meme era of their families perhaps.

  • @rapman5791

    @rapman5791

    2 ай бұрын

    Not really, the mob itself has hundreds of murders that are unsolved that many members took to the grave. The whole deathbed confession garbage is a relatively new phenomena. There was a time when people in the game actually did take their criminal acts to the grave. The guys in Nash’s crew were old school, they weren’t giving up a thing. 👍

  • @utbllc4057

    @utbllc4057

    12 күн бұрын

    Ron Jeremy pulled the hit

  • @Brianvanmoustache
    @Brianvanmoustache2 ай бұрын

    Great interview. Really liked the part of the detective answering their house phone with people callin to get drugs " nah he's not here how can I help ya out? "

  • @jaygramz07
    @jaygramz07 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video guys ,great job 👏

  • @stardaddyo9
    @stardaddyo92 жыл бұрын

    Amateurs left Nash alive. They didn't think there would be a return strike?

  • @yourmomshouse8993

    @yourmomshouse8993

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly that was their mistake

  • @scottdavidson526

    @scottdavidson526

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ron L. wanted to kill them but was talked out of it by one of the other gang members.

  • @keithgraham3764

    @keithgraham3764

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's not entirely accurate. According to Tom Lange, Ron Launius wanted to kill both Eddie Nash & Greg Diles but David Lind along with Billy Deverell talked Launius out of it. At the time of his death, Ron Launius was under suspicion for as many as 27 murders...Launius was no amature!

  • @sunnyhill5119

    @sunnyhill5119

    Жыл бұрын

    You ain't never lied. They should've killed Nash and Diles. Or left Cali the next day. I wonder was any of the loot ever recovered.

  • @robertdf42
    @robertdf422 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like an interesting book!!

  • @troubledsole9104
    @troubledsole91042 жыл бұрын

    I will read your book. Compelling story.

  • @jtoneal3344
    @jtoneal334410 ай бұрын

    superb insightful podcast on this famous horrible case. Well done sir.

  • @MG-cd9ek
    @MG-cd9ek2 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic how you just get right into it, like adults. I hate podcasts when idiots just laugh and talk crap and swear. Great series you have here. Nice job! Going to Amazon to buy the book. Lots go on the general public don't even know about. Manson, this, Jim Jones, night stalker. Etc list goes on and on. Something creepy is going on in California. Aka Sodom

  • @KhalDrogo76

    @KhalDrogo76

    9 ай бұрын

    I couldn't agree more. Podcasts have a subject to discuss and they typically spend 10mins talking about nonsense before getting into it.

  • @chaddevine565
    @chaddevine565 Жыл бұрын

    This should of been alot longer of a podcast

  • @MG-cd9ek

    @MG-cd9ek

    9 ай бұрын

    I agree! They were so good here.

  • @donnaking7439
    @donnaking74392 жыл бұрын

    Scott Thorson is gross. All of these people were terrible . The peripheral sludge of our society.

  • @yourmomshouse8993

    @yourmomshouse8993

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bravo 👏 you couldn’t have said it any better I feel the same about most of Hollywood.

  • @MG-cd9ek

    @MG-cd9ek

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm 24 years clean. Heroin lived under bridges etc. You'll never meet a more disgusting group of people than people like me, and those I ran with. We are sickening! I am a non violent offender, however the life I lead is an abomination. I believe I helped kill my own mother. I broke her heart. We are ruthless and will destroy your life if you bring us in. Jesus Christ is the only Way to release Lucifer. The only way to find truth, and to own it. My life is absolutely amazing today, I have my family, friends and a beautiful job with incredible humans. Jesus Christ is the only way to get it, and keep it.

  • @ericluriergo8251
    @ericluriergo82512 ай бұрын

    I remember as a kid growing up in Hollywood-the 4 on the Floor Murders; 5 blocks from our apartment off Hollywood Blvd. I was fascinated yet disgusted!!!! Eddy Nash owned the Odyssey where ALL the sexually unexplained went as teenagers to party: One of the first places to play Madonna WAAAY before her first full album 💿 came out. Every couple weeks a new single would land, “Physical Attraction,” “Think of Me,” Everybody!!” Wow! What heady times We lived in at that time!! Suddenly in ‘84 all the geeks and wannabes like Steven Gozelius started infiltrating Our hangout and We all left in droves!! Every wannabe wanted to be a part of “Odyssey” making US sick 🤢 🤮!!

  • @83jiro
    @83jiro3 ай бұрын

    what would anyone do when they get uninvited guests ???

  • @skyeshannon3556
    @skyeshannon3556Ай бұрын

    Yeah fevious ,me too and it alleays looked to me like Richardson tried to get up and eas either knocked down or fell. Cant get nd any info on that sort of thing.

  • @zamiadams4343
    @zamiadams43432 жыл бұрын

    Best John Holmes movie is "Sweet Captive" (1979)

  • @MG-cd9ek

    @MG-cd9ek

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'm gonna try to find it.

  • @scottdavidson526

    @scottdavidson526

    2 жыл бұрын

    Okay, I'll take that under advisement...😁

  • @jaygramz07
    @jaygramz072 жыл бұрын

    Is it me or does this guy (top right) looks like Jon Stewart 🤔

  • @captainknapton

    @captainknapton

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought that too lol

  • @georgehardie2016
    @georgehardie2016Ай бұрын

    Did Tom Lange ever solve a case ?

  • @chadlynch6992
    @chadlynch6992Ай бұрын

    F you look hard you can find the crime scene video Tom Lange is the Host .

  • @owllover813
    @owllover81319 күн бұрын

    What do you think of the movie they did!

  • @inkdry101
    @inkdry101 Жыл бұрын

    Has Tom Lange ever solved a case?

  • @sunnyhill5119

    @sunnyhill5119

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol😂

  • @Romulan2469

    @Romulan2469

    10 ай бұрын

    Have you?

  • @asdfzxcv3617

    @asdfzxcv3617

    2 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately not.

  • @rapman5791

    @rapman5791

    2 ай бұрын

    Jut because juries were biased or bought off, it doesn’t men the case was not solved. All these cases were solved but the juries didn’t choose to convict. Do you see the difference or is your anti Lange bias too strong?

  • @asdfzxcv3617

    @asdfzxcv3617

    2 ай бұрын

    @@rapman5791 You are right too, but Lange can't really prove the facts.

  • @skyeshannon3556
    @skyeshannon3556Ай бұрын

    Cant believe that liver lips nash eas the cidco kid wa wa wa wa wa!

  • @randyjohnson415
    @randyjohnson4159 ай бұрын

    They're all crazy

  • @67psychout
    @67psychout4 күн бұрын

    Whatever happened to the survivor? Did she go into witness protection?

  • @sunnyhill5119
    @sunnyhill5119 Жыл бұрын

    Show me your friends.....and I'll show you your future.🙏✝️💯👍

  • @chadhumphries1445
    @chadhumphries1445 Жыл бұрын

    Did any victims have defensive wounds?

  • @ESmith237

    @ESmith237

    21 күн бұрын

    Not really, barely. They were overtaken quickly.

  • @theresamilici4537
    @theresamilici4537 Жыл бұрын

    I know

  • @Devious480
    @Devious480 Жыл бұрын

    I'm wondering how so many of the victims where still in bed.. ..there had to be a lot of noise.....it looks like Billy deferral could have briefly been on his feet because he was found leaning up against the tv....but it looks like Ron launius was probably sleeping......just something I've always been curious about

  • @sugarjoe50

    @sugarjoe50

    Жыл бұрын

    It apparently happened at 4AM.

  • @motowngirl5891

    @motowngirl5891

    Жыл бұрын

    They all were

  • @sunnyhill5119

    @sunnyhill5119

    Жыл бұрын

    There were multiple killers.

  • @corporalcornealiaspheffer8296

    @corporalcornealiaspheffer8296

    4 ай бұрын

    They all were on heroin

  • @khb6686

    @khb6686

    14 күн бұрын

    They were all high on herion.

  • @67psychout
    @67psychout4 күн бұрын

    O don't think Holmes would be there willingly. I think he was there so if Nash went down then Holmes would go down with him. On the other hand those dudes who ripped off nash are portrayed as scum of the earth. It seems the world is a better place without them and they fucked around and found out

  • @KevinShipe-tr2uk
    @KevinShipe-tr2uk2 ай бұрын

    Tom Lange can not convict celebrities what a detective lolol

  • @eddiebrown8549
    @eddiebrown85492 ай бұрын

    Johnny Wad…

  • @ESmith237

    @ESmith237

    21 күн бұрын

    Wadd, actually.

  • @georgehardie2016
    @georgehardie2016Ай бұрын

    But Mr Lange you didn’t solve this case don’t see a conviction anywhere on this

  • @kgc.tanto8902
    @kgc.tanto89022 жыл бұрын

    Tom Lange sounds so funny, HE SOUNDS LIKE HES EXTREMELY JEALOUS OF HOLMES. ITS FUNNY AS HELL

  • @trissloan2340

    @trissloan2340

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do not believe that.

  • @thesecondcoming4425

    @thesecondcoming4425

    9 ай бұрын

    WTF are you talking about. Tell us all how Tom Lange is jealous of Holmes and the murders? You have a creepy mind

  • @giovanna722

    @giovanna722

    2 ай бұрын

    I didn't get that at all.

  • @theresamilici4537
    @theresamilici4537 Жыл бұрын

    Ok

  • @theresamilici4537
    @theresamilici4537 Жыл бұрын

    Hi

  • @theresamilici4537
    @theresamilici4537 Жыл бұрын

    I know sumthin about it

  • @101kmontgomery
    @101kmontgomery2 жыл бұрын

    Lange...did you ever solve anything?

  • @MRPERFECT_79

    @MRPERFECT_79

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well we know who killed the wonderland gang. And we ALL know that OJ is GUILTY. So yeah id say he solves his cases. Blame the outcome of the trials on the prosecuting attorney you idiot.

  • @MG-cd9ek

    @MG-cd9ek

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tough to solve it when the elitists have more money than a local police can ever have. His high profile cases all have wealthy defendants, and yes, you can research his career. He has solved many many cases. Do better dude, you're a grown man. Pick up a book

  • @keithgraham3764

    @keithgraham3764

    2 жыл бұрын

    John Holmes said Eddie Nash had more power than the police. When your own superiors are telling you you can't talk to the prime suspect ( Nash ) it's no wonder Lange and the DA couldn't get a conviction. This had more to do with the power Eddie Nash wielded than Lang's ability as a homicide detective.

  • @101kmontgomery

    @101kmontgomery

    2 жыл бұрын

    I understand the politics but the question still stands. Presently nobody has cited a specific case aside from the one at hand that Lange has solved. I'll find a case that Lange solved! It will take research but I'll find one. The Dude abides...

  • @0037kevin

    @0037kevin

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@101kmontgomeryand...

  • @R4lee444
    @R4lee4442 жыл бұрын

    making money after the murders is real shame.

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