If you enjoy this era of history, definitely check out Last Train Home: thqn.net/48pkGIX which puts you in charge of a Czechoslovakian legion laoded aboard an armoured train as it attemots to make its way across civil war torn Russia back home.

@ietsbram

3 ай бұрын

the mg fire animation was bad, sorry

@thelastaustralian7583

3 ай бұрын

'They' use War to thin out a generations of Male Alphas . To better control social systems into 'modern corporatized Helotism'.

Starks: Winter is coming. Finnish: We are Winter.

@alaric_

3 ай бұрын

It's always winter, we just get few months of vacation from it each year.

@zoolkhan

3 ай бұрын

@@alaric_ draamatar :)

@InvaliDidea123

9 сағат бұрын

Suomessa kesä on paras päivä vuodesta.

My grandfathers were (usually) non-combat troops, one was a builder, the other was a mechanic. As I heard there was just one occasion where one of them had to fight. He brought home a Russian rifle from that.

Nice job on the tank numbers. I've seen sources incorrectly state Finland had 36 tanks; in reality 4 of those were officially non-operational status at the start of the war.

@herptek

3 ай бұрын

Many of the rest were not exactly in good condition either. Some lacked guns, all were old fashioned at best. They were not very usefull in this war. The first Finnish use of tanks was so ineffective that it led the leaders to doubt the future of the entire arm. Only after the winter war did Finland acquire some kind of usefull armoured arm. Captured Soviet tanks were put to use and later assault guns were acquired from Germany.

@TheRomanRuler

3 ай бұрын

@@herptekYeah, but though tanks were useless in winter war, those same tanks allowed Finnish armored branch to perform well in continuition war, so they were not entirely wasted. Training without tanks is hard after all, and establishing armored branch in middle of the war from scratch would be even harder.

@laurancerobinson

3 ай бұрын

Well the official numbers of tanks all together at the outbreak of the Winter War was 34 Renaults, a Vickers-Carden-Loyd Mk.VI* (V.A.E. 115), a Vickers-Carden-Loyd Model 1933 (V.A.E. 503) and a Vickers-Armstrongs 6-Ton Tank Alternative B (V.A.E. 546), as well as 26 other Vickers 6 ton tanks. However, only the Renaults were in any operational condition. All the Vickers were in various states of conversion, and by the end of the war, only 16 were made operational, with 8 tanks being lost.

@kalervolatoniittu2011

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheRomanRulertanks weren't useless in winter war. 🥸

As a Finn, I greatly appreciate your taking the time to research and publish this video as I am very interested in Finnish war history. My great-grandfather fought in the Winter War and Continuation War. Thanks to you I now have a better idea of the harsh conditions he had to endure and which he miraculously survived. He was a messenger in a rifle platoon and had close encounters with death multiple times when he served our beautiful country. Again big thanks to you for this video. Big respect from Finland!

@Nathan-gn3ls

3 ай бұрын

The Finns allied themselves with the Nazis. Talk about the wrong side of history.

@orionion

3 ай бұрын

My grandfather as well. Good to see the fourth generation also interested in our country's history. Lisää vöitä perkele!

@georgecristiancripcia4819

3 ай бұрын

​@@Nathan-gn3ls The soviet were also allied with the nazis.They attacked Finland based on the pact they had with the nazis. Plus all the countries in Europe they conquered only bc they could,with no other morale justification.

@annaniskanen2557

2 ай бұрын

@@orionion I think it was nearly everybody's grandpa fighting... one way or another. That is what you get being a small nation. Everybody have to pull their weight. In my case, half of my family is Ukrainian. So, in fact, I had relatives on both sides during winter war as there was an Ukrainian battalion in Suomussalmi and my great uncle died there. Sending Ukrainians to -40 C conditions... what a plan. :(

@orionion

2 ай бұрын

@@annaniskanen2557 Yeah, women too. Grandmother from my father’s side operated a searchlight for the anti aircraft battery. Wish people could feel such a sense of unity and purpose in today’s world without the hurt that comes with it.

When the snow goes Perkele

@hulking_presence

3 ай бұрын

When your epic unpenetrable defense line goes suka blyat

My mother told me long time ago. Her father was in winter war hard battles in Karelian Isthmus extremedely cold weather. They got a packet from US. Warm socs made by american indians. Thank you.

@heikkisiitonen5061

3 ай бұрын

Real reason why Finland survive was pray. President Kallio speak in radio and ask people to pray, only God can help us. His wife was praying in radio. Old people remember that everyone who hear this fall on their knees shops or ewerywher. What happend. Next night temperature went down from zero to minus 40 degrees celsius for weeks after weeks. One of the coldest winter what has ever been. Catastroph for Soviet army, soldiers were mostly from Ukraine, no winterclothes, many just frozen to death. Old people also remember that all churces were full of people every sunday.

Posthumous shout-out to my grandfather, veteran of the Winter War & the Continuation War. Joined the SS after the treaty, with the understanding that he would only have to serve on the Eastern Front. Surrendered when Germany fell. Escaped a gulag. Died in Finland in his nineties.

@hulking_presence

3 ай бұрын

No, he didn't eacape 😂

@orionion

3 ай бұрын

@@hulking_presence The way my parents told me the story is that he was one of the some 200 prisoners of war forced to work in mines in Kolyma, who decided to go for the east, had help from indigenous people. Apparently there were very few guards because they were in the middle of nowhere. He didn’t talk about this with me personally, I sensed it was a painful story to him, and he was tired of talking about it.

@zoolkhan

3 ай бұрын

similar, here, gramps was a pioneer, he did not escape gulag. But he returned from it.... died in pusula in his 80ies... i never had the chance to talk about the war with him, which i deeply regret. When i was a child, he did not talk about it .... he was a very humble man.

@anne-marie2972

3 ай бұрын

​@@zoolkhan My grandfather never talked about the war. I remeber what my grandmother told me about that time but grandfather never wanted to talk about the war.

@alfrancisbuada2591

Ай бұрын

Which SS Division?

My grandfather fought in the Winter war and the Continuation war mostly as a messenger and had many encounters with the russians got half of hes ear cut by a sword and suffered wounds from artillery and grenade sharpnel but survived. he was a good man and lived a long life.

@taikajorma7276

3 ай бұрын

By a sword?

@jounitaipale8572

2 ай бұрын

My grandfather was also in both wars. Shot 4 enemies.

A very in depth and inspirational video. Thank you all!!

The success of Finland is what convinced the Allies and Axis that Russia was basically defenseless.

@dominicadrean2160

3 ай бұрын

You can blame someone on that one because of his military purges😅 I think if he didn't do that in our timeline the war probably would have ended a year or two quicker in the Germans would have not got so far into the Soviet Union

@JORMUNREKKR

3 ай бұрын

Success of Finland? Would you also call the German invasion to USSR a success as well simply because USSR lost more people and tanks? Was Battle of Normandy or Battle of Bulge success for Germany too? It would've been success for Finland if it repelled the Soviets, when in reality Finland gave up giving out much more than the Soviets asked for (the tradeoff deal) losing ~100K soldiers (Winter & Continuation War) for nothing. But maybe it's just a bad word picking and the word you were looking for was "good performance". Indeed, Finland's good performance (aka Soviet's poor performance) somewhat inspired Hitler to initiate Barbarossa.

@JORMUNREKKR

3 ай бұрын

​@@dominicadrean2160 you should just check whom Stalin purged - those were the same mindless generals of the civil war times that ruled the army during the Winter war. You can check Tukhachevsky's (main general that was purged) performance during the Soviet-Polish war (1918-1919) or during the Civil war in Russia to see how "good" he was.

@suomiprkle

3 ай бұрын

@@JORMUNREKKR If you still think that soviet union wouldnt have attacked Finland anyway like they did to every baltic country, i have a bridge to sell to you

@JORMUNREKKR

3 ай бұрын

@@suomiprkle by no means I think that - why would you even guess that?

An amazing video on the subject of winter war! What made the winter war and the finland´s ability to repel the soviets even more impressive, was the civil wat which was fought just over 20 years ago. The soviets tought that the former reds would abandond Finland and flock to soviets and view them liberators; but none of this would happen. Finland had made an astonishing feat, uniting the nation after a civil war, in just 20 years. This was all thanks to briliant leaders like Ståhlberg, who correctly saw uniting the nation as their primarily goal.

"The Soviet army, though outnumbering their opponent several times over, are I'll prepared and disorganized." - It's like an ancient Russian tradition that's held true to modern day lol

@JORMUNREKKR

3 ай бұрын

You don't know much about modern day things do you?

@morecopemorerope4372

3 ай бұрын

@@JORMUNREKKR1939: so called superpower invades its much smaller and poorer neighbor thinking it will be a quick war. Only to show the world how incompetent and outdated its military is. 2022:​​⁠so called superpower invades its much smaller and poorer neighbor thinking it will be a quick war. Only to show the world how incompetent and outdated its military is.

@iri1088

3 ай бұрын

In Russia the stupidity is limitless…

@greekwarrior5373

3 ай бұрын

Oh really? That's why they're beating a fully equipped, supported and donated by 40+ Western countries Ukraine with only 15% of their entire army!

@Hopeforstoicism

3 ай бұрын

Delusional Russian supporters are the funniest, truly live in their own universe.

:50 Oops. Animation issue there. That's not supposed to rotate! That's just a water container to keep the heavy machinegun cool while firing!

Last Train home was a lot of fun, challenging and emotional. I did a binge play for over a week and took over 50 hours for my first play through. I can still remember the skilled soldier that got typhus that we refused to let back onto the Last Train home.

Love the new art, reminds me of the artwork on the boxes with wwII era plastic soldiers.

I knew a Finnish soldier who served in this war. His family went to the US after this war. He loved his country and mentioned how they defended their nation. I wish I could remember his name. I think it was Tihonenin, or something like that. God bless him, the family, and Finland. Moreover, I am glad they are in NATO.

@FZ500

3 ай бұрын

Tiihonen?

@cynic3068

3 ай бұрын

Probably Tiihonen

@vilijamkil5937

3 ай бұрын

its true i was nation he defended

Great video as usual thank you

Every Finn had to know how to ski because they went to school with skis on those days too in rural areas, kids used them to go to school until the sixties or so. I'm from rural areas (eastern finland) so I don't know if it's true, but with these conditions and tales from my relatives confirm it to some point. I hated skiing always and now want to learn it again for having a great sport for winters.

@jaanakivalo7247

2 ай бұрын

You could also ski to school in the center of Helsinki before.

Thanks for the video

Thoroughly enjoyed this, please do a more detailed view like mentioned

Very good Video. Thank you very much

Ivan: 'I don't like the Cold ' Finlandis: 'You can have our warmest welcome'

@greekwarrior5373

3 ай бұрын

Ivan: Yet i still won.

@lordski1981

3 ай бұрын

​@@greekwarrior5373barely, and only due to larger size and manpower reserves...

@hungrymusicwolf

3 ай бұрын

@@greekwarrior5373 A pyrrhic victory maybe called a win, but not by anyone with more than 2 functioning brain cells.

@greekwarrior5373

3 ай бұрын

@@lordski1981 Yes, barely. You said it yourself. The Russians still won.

@save7597

3 ай бұрын

@@greekwarrior5373 the russian won land, the Finns retained their independence and kept their population following the Lapland war

My grandfather fought against the Soviet Union as a machine gunner (Maxim) on the Karelian Isthmus and I can only imagine the trials by fire that they had to go through while facing the opposing forces outnumbering them colossally by manpower and material, the Finnish defenders being only equipped with the determination and will to not budge, no matter what ever price must be paid. I'm forever grateful to him for enduring literal hell on earth to preserve the independence of our nation. If a time to repay my debt will arrive someday in future, I will be heeding the call in his footsteps.

@davidhughes8357

3 ай бұрын

All my respect to your grandfather you and your nation for your strength and determination!! Thank you.

@simmysims9209

3 ай бұрын

My grandfather was a machine gunner in Taipale and did wounded 23.12. He did wounded 3 times more during the continuation war and did carry soviet steel in his back rest of his life

@alaric_

3 ай бұрын

My grandfather fought in all three wars although the last years as a rear line man after losing his eye to a mine his buddy walked into. The guy was "blown to the treetops" while my grandfather was showered with shrapnel. His brother served the wars as a medic, we can only imagine the amount horror he saw in all those years...

@JORMUNREKKR

3 ай бұрын

Well if that was only determination they were equipped with, then why did Finland give up once the Mannerheim line has fallen? Let me tell you - it was also (and mostly) that defensive line (along with the weather/landscape) that was the issue. Also didn't this war start for small area north to Leningrad and not for the whole Finland like you claim? The Soviets have taken even more than what they first asked for (without any territorial tradeoff they offered prior to the war), and only had to suffer bigger casualties than they expected, so this whole war was rather meaningless for Finland. Come to think of it, for the Soviets this price was more than worth paying since it has shown Stalin that even though the Red army was massive and very well equipped, its commanders lacked skills a lot. This is also why none of those high commanders they had during the Winter war had much trust later on when Barbarossa started, and it took some time before Zhukov, Vasilevsky, Rokossovsky, etc appeared.

@wizzzone

3 ай бұрын

@@JORMUNREKKR You are obviously ignorant of the surrounding history or a Russian troll. In any case, try to educate yourself on the subject as a whole before spewing such nonsense. I extend my courtesy however to raise a salient point in your own comment: there's a good reason for the competence or lack of thereof of the commanders because of no other than Stalin himself - a fact readily available for those who know the history well like you should do if you claim to posses insight about the subject matter. Have a great day, comrade.

Comment for the algorithm excellent video thanks

A good clip. Thanks for that. A small inaccuracy though: the war ended on March 13th - not 11th as stated on video

15:41 Why is the Maxim gun's water jacket rotating in this animation?

@FeyTheBin

3 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the Maxim gatling gun.

Love to see modern stuff

Can you make a video about finnish liberation war and the following kinship wars? Or maybe the estonian independence war.

My great grandfather and his brothers fought in the wars against Soviet Russia.Their father and even my great grandmother and her sister was mobilized but did not activley fight.The russians underestimated our country and russians also know Finland was different from most european countries who surrendered.We lost a bit of territory but secured our freedom and showed Stalin. Respect our country 💪🇫🇮

The unit size indicators in the unit organisation segment are completely wrong. A platoon is supposed to be denoted by three circles, a company by one line, a battalion by two lines, and a regiment by three lines. You've missed the platoon markings and somehow marked the rest one too high. The charts of unit structure are also unclear and logically incoherent, as smaller units seem to be made up of larger ones. Such as a two line rifle regiment being made up of several four line organisations at 9:45. Also, a four line unit does not exist, the next bigger unit after a regiment is a brigade which is denoted by an x. Your unit symbol choices are also weird. A command/headquarters company is usually pictured as a single horizontal line at the top of the rectangle, not just by writing HQ. Mortars aren't artillery, and shouldn't therefore be characterised by the artillery circle. Mortar units are represented by a mars symbol. Supply troops have a horizontal line at the bottom of the rectangle, writing "other" seems like corner-cutting.

@Unknown1355

3 ай бұрын

Indeed, feel like they got a basic idea and improvised the rest. But: WWII markers are different from modern NATO standard and I'm pretty sure either Brits or Americans just wrote "HQ". So that is somewhat correct. No idea what the contemporary Finnish markings were, modern ones are a mix of NATO and Soviet symbols. NATO mortar is not represented by any planetary symbol, and even then Uranus would be closest.

@harriporo796

3 ай бұрын

​@@Unknown1355Yep, you're right about the mortar symbol. What I've understood is that the Finnish army of ww2 didn't much utilize unit symbols, and marked units on maps with their abbreviated names and numbers. So it might not be possible to achieve perfect historical accuracy with any kind of modern organisational chart.

Curious to know after the outbreak of war what the production of weapons was like in Finland? Surely it was all out war so turn everything to assist the war effort (more weapons?)

19:30 - did you intentionally quote the "frostbutt" meme? 😂

The situation of the Finnish miltiary forces at the end of the war is still being hotly debated among military historians with estimates of couple of weeks to couple of months being thrown around. But what is certain is that Viipuri wasn't in danger of falling at the end of the war.

0:54 was that a shopped animation of that maxim style mg rotating like a gatling gun

When the snow starts shooting at you, you're in trouble 😬

Bro, I am a fellow KZreadr. Pls tell me what app you use to change your voice in narration in KZread.

Iv'e watched this part 2 ofthe documentary to about half way thrue, so far it's repeated content fom first part!

1:24 Inquisitor: Did someone say Chaos?!

24:45 on, Tho Finland in imperial/modern/"civilised" terms is a young nation, the peoples/tribes have existed some 10.000yrs fighting eachother for the lack of better hobbies, but also the SWE and the Novgorod/Czar since 12th century. (opression 12-20th c.)

Great vid. My Grandfather and his brother had to go war 17years old .my grandfather came back. brother dont.

Kind suggestion - dont title the video about "motti" when it was a 2 minute contribution saying they were used and what the name means. Bit misleading as thats the tactic I came here to learn more about in depth.

My grandfather was also in both wars. Shot 4 enemies.

Please do one on the continuation war

1. Finland was under Swedish rule from 1104 to 1809, which covered a long period in the history of the Finnish people. Throughout this period, and even in the first decades of Russian rule, Swedish continued to be the only official language. At the end of the Great Northern War, which began in 1700, in 1721, according to the terms of the Nishtadt Peace Treaty, Sweden recognized the annexation of Ingermanland, the Kexholm Lena and part of Karelia with the Vyborg Lena district to Russia. After the Russian-Swedish war of 1741-1743, the Treaty of Abos was concluded between Sweden and Russia on August 17, 1743, according to which Sweden ceded to Russia the southeastern Finnish province of Kymenegerd with the fortresses of Friedrichsgam and Wilmanstrand, as well as the city and fortress of Neishlot. On January 14 (25), 1744, Empress Elizabeth Petrovna approved the report of the Senate on the formation of the Vyborg province. The province included part of the St. Petersburg province (Vyborg and Kegsholm provinces) and the annexed lands of Finland (the southeastern part of the Lena Kymmnengord-Neishlot). That is, only a part of the territory of Finland entered the Vyborg province. During the Swedish-Russian war of 1741-1743, Empress Elizabeth issued a manifesto to the inhabitants of Finland, in which she promised to form an independent state from Finland under the condition of voluntary subordination to Russia. The manifesto was not successful; the war continued and ended in peace in Abo. The Russian-Finnish border has moved west to the Kumen River. After Russia's victory in the Russo-Swedish War of 1808-1809, the Swedish Kingdom ceded the lands of Finland, the Aland Islands and the eastern part of Ostrobothnia (Pohjamaa) to the Torneo and Muonio rivers to the "eternal" possession of the Russian Empire. The newly conquered region passed under the Friedrichsham Peace Treaty "into the ownership and sovereign possession of the Russian Empire" as the Grand Duchy of Finland. On December 11 [23], 1811, Emperor Alexander I issued a decree on the annexation of the Finnish province (the so-called Old Finland), which included Kegsgom County, to the Grand Duchy of Finland ("New Finland"). Due to this transformation, the territory of the Grand Duchy of Finland has significantly increased: from Kyumijoki to Rayajoki on the Karelian Isthmus and in the east to Lake Ladoga. The border of the Principality of Finland has been pushed back to the Sister River. The cities and fortresses of Vyborg, Friedrichsgam (Hamina), Wilmanstrand (Lappeenranta), Neishlot (Saavonlinna) and Kegsholm (Priozersk) also passed into Finnish administration. I write in detail in the comments so that it is clear to everyone that there was no Grand Duchy of Finland before joining the Russian Empire, and after joining the Russian Empire, not only the former Finnish territories were annexed to Finland (the southeastern part of the Lena Kymmnengord- Neishlot) but also almost all the territories transferred to Russia from Sweden under the terms of the Nishtadt, Abos and Friedrichsham peace treaties. Russia fulfilled the promise to form an independent state from Finland, set out in the Manifesto of Empress Elizabeth to the inhabitants of Finland, although after more than half a century. On March 16, 1809, Emperor Alexander I opened the first Finnish Diet in Finland, in the city of Borgo (Porvo), at which he granted Finland autonomy in the form of a grand duchy within the Russian Empire. In Finland, unlike the rest of the empire, the autocrat's power was limited by the constitution. The Grand Duchy of Finland had its own laws, police, court, monetary unit - the Finnish mark and the official language (Swedish). Officially, Finnish received the status of the state language in 1863, when Emperor Alexander II abolished the compulsory teaching of Russian in Finnish schools, and Finnish has already become the language of office work.

Interestingly, most of the Soviet soldiers who fought in the Winter War were from Ukraine. It is ridiculous that many people like to equate the Soviet Union with Russia. The Soviet Union at that time consisted of 12 republics. Both Stalin and Beria were Georgians.😉😉

Motti is also uses as measure of one cubic meter of firewood 🙂

Loved the old title and thumbniak a lot better for every reaspn but whatever gets the clicks i guess 😭

It's all fun and games until the snow starts speaking Finnish and plays Sakkijarven Polkka on loop.

So basically the Finns pulled an Arminius on the Soviet Publius Quinctilius Varus? AWESOME!!!

I love the fiinnish, sisu!

Equally as impressive is the fact that. Finland has spent every day since the end of The Winter War preparing for the day Russia eventually returns. The Finnish are no pushovers and Russia will be forced to learn that hard lesson once again if they are foolish enough to try them.

@harriporo796

3 ай бұрын

It only took one and a half years after the winter war ended for the Finnish to go in for a second round.

@danieltanev4270

3 ай бұрын

And get beaten again...@@harriporo796

I go moose hunting at Suomussalmi region just forests and swamp. Little lakes and ponds

epic fins

Yes

From today's point of view, a shortage of communication devices and small arms seems unbelievable!

Is that a Aussie accent mate?

When people ask why mustache man thought he could beat the USSR, looking purely at the polish soviet war, the winter war, and the purge it isn’t unreasonable to think a modernized, large force would have a chance to crush them

@yurikaman0suke

3 ай бұрын

I wonder if mustache man could have taken the Soviet Union if Russia hadn't been supplied by the Allies. I wonder if there was ever a chance.

@kvici

3 ай бұрын

​@@yurikaman0sukeof course there was. Even with lend-lease the soviets barely stopped the mustache man soldiers. Then came the winter without winter gear for the invaders.

@hulking_presence

3 ай бұрын

@@kvici hitler lost the war in the winter of 41-42. Barely stopped. 😂 You wish, mate, you wish.

@hulking_presence

3 ай бұрын

@@yurikaman0suke yes, of course we couldn't crush hitler without those jeeps 🤡

@kvici

3 ай бұрын

@@hulking_presence and trucks. And planes. And trains, packed food, fuel, ammo, guns, you name it. Anything but men, until stalin kicked in siberian hinterland production.

It looks like Finland has the same territory as it did after this war, which makes me assume no one has ever bothered to try again

@riissanen93

3 ай бұрын

We lost more territory during the continuation war.

@jussim.konttinen4981

3 ай бұрын

​@@riissanen93Hanko was captured in 1941.

@butterflies655

3 ай бұрын

​@@riissanen93Yes, but Finland is still large enough for its inhabitants.

For me, this war has tremendous parallels with what is happening now in Ukraine and I am almost sure that it will have a similar ending, with Russia annexing the territories they have, but accepting the total independence of the Ukrainian State (the only thing different is that the border would probably end up being a militarized zone in the best style of North and South Korea). Like Finland, Ukraine will become stronger in the decades to come as it will count on the help of the rest of Europe after the conflict and the loss of part of its territory will be seen in the end as a necessary sacrifice (at least they will not be under Russian government).

The Finns had been preparing but the ones in command (politics) were not. Not enough even basic stuff like helmets/weapons.

I'm a sucker for any good content on the Winter War! 🎿❄⚔😎👏

it's not Suomossalmi but Suomussalmi, just to point out. :D

White Guard vs. Red Guard (no factions) and the Jaeger movement soldiers fought on both sides after returning home, as it wasn't solely about communism vs. democracy as often proposed. The White Guard was pro monarchy and were prepping a German nobleman as our future King, he even had a Crown awaiting. The Red Guard were mainly peasants and of the poor part of our then society, they weren't fighting for ideology's sake, they were fighting for their own homes and crop fields and the Tzarist era modus of being treated like shit by the bourgeois ladder of the society. Legislation was not taking their side in the newly formed Finland. The hostilities broke out after the Red Guard armed themselves against the White Guard which resulted in a bloody Civil War. The laws were changed after that to favor the working class better, even though they lost. Our forefathers were able to sort out a basis for a society which cares for everyone on equal grounds....

@Unknown1355

3 ай бұрын

1) No Jägers fought on the Red side, logically both Germany and Whites didn't allow any Jägers to travel to the Red side. Germany only shipped those willing to fight for the Whites to Vaasa and the rest remained in Germany. 2) Finland became a monarchy and elected Karl von Hessen as a king in October 1918, 10 months after the start of Civil War. It was not about the monarchy, but a fight between conservatives and socialists. 3) Whites were mostly made from poor people. That is the peasants and other farm workers from Central Finland upwards and the countryside. Reds were mostly industrial workers from southern cities. There's a clear class, geographical and ideological divide there. Whites would have not had any chance without a large part of population siding with the Whites.

Do not underestimate the importance of the Finnish women. The Lottas.

@aritakalo8011

3 ай бұрын

They are mentioned in the part 1 video.

@More_Row

3 ай бұрын

Is that the same as comfort women?

Part 1 and part 2 is the same…

Last stand? WE ARE STILL HERE 🤣🤣

Where is part 1?

@InvictaHistory

3 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/mqVtmaatlruXhag.htmlsi=E3HMIMonRdLq5knt

🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊 Mateus eu estou vasculhando todos os seus canais que tu me indicou Oi

It's unfortunate that Moscow seems intent to continue wars of conquest despite history like this

@hulking_presence

3 ай бұрын

We're not conquering anything. You can't "conquer" your own territories. We'll talk when UK let's northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales go. When France let's occitania and Bretagne go. When USA reverts to the original american laws and decentralizes the country, as it was pre civil war. Until then you can f off.

Most inpoetant is that Hitler alkso begin to keep sovjetunion sefenceless.

The frozen Russian rations didn't change much until today 😢😮

Thinking what we had in Winter War it is Wonder we defended so long! But 1940's we had negotiations with British and French! But also Germans Western countries promised weapons and mens! They demanded we must continue Winter war and help was coming too late for us! So we made peace with Soviet Union! Peace time in summer 1940 happened something where our goverment must lied to press! Routine flight from Tallinn to Helsinki (Malmi airport) was shoot down to sea after take Off! Kalevala name Ju-52 took Off normally to Helsinki Soviet Union was ordered two plane to drop that plane! Press was told it was technical problem, but one our fighter pilot saw that Soviet Union's submarine was pick up 270 kilos post from sea and taking evidence from fishers who was there! Luckily submarines crew didn't even tried shoot Finland's fighter down!

Woot woot

I'm suprised with how inaccurate much of the period uniforms in this video are, it might give the viewer a false understanding. I'd suggest more closely recreating real life photographs next time.

It's "Suomussalmi" not "Suomos---" Suomu means a scale spec of a fish skin, but ofc it might be older word from Sapmi language which i don't know. And as eastern finlander, I think that saamelaiset/sapmis should have their own autonomy in north. Finns did them real dirty stuff, while "civilizing" them, those "barbarians". They were the real inhabitants of Finland before the agricultural "Finns", and I say "Finns" because there were none such group really. They were Estonians, Livians, people from south finland mostly, then there were Tavastians (Häme), Savonians and all kinds of Karelians. I'm from current North Karelia (Finland) and our roots are from Denmark from the building of Olavinlinna-casle in Savonlinna. My ancestors were builders of that castle who were given small titles around it.

@anne-marie2972

3 ай бұрын

May I ask what titles ? And how do you know this that your ancestors were from Germany ? I ask because I want to study my ancestors.

Those Soviet tactics sound all too familiar these days...

TALVISOTA!

Never underestimate an enemy that hunts on skis, in well below freezing temperatures, and finds a way to remain cheerful all the while. I think that would have been something the Russians should have been aware of. What good are forzen Russian bears, agains angry gnomes on skies?

@danieltanev4270

3 ай бұрын

Look at the map - vast parts of Russia, many times bigger than Finland, are even colder and more unforgiving. Finland is a sunny southern resort compared to places Yamal, Taimir, Yakutia. The locals have been using skis for millenia, also.

@galloe8933

3 ай бұрын

Okay, I understand that, but that just means they lost in their element to cheerful gnomes with guns.

You will need to remake this video within next 2 years for Round 2, including f35s.

@janbo8331

3 ай бұрын

Nuclear Winter War

@georgecristiancripcia4819

3 ай бұрын

​@@janbo8331 Better then letting russian won

@hulking_presence

3 ай бұрын

@@georgecristiancripcia4819 it's not like we're going to ask you 😁 Just sit tight and enjoy it, while we finish our business. 🇷🇺

@georgecristiancripcia4819

3 ай бұрын

@@hulking_presence What business,destroying your country and economy? How it is,was the heating for those cities near moscow repaired? And how much of russia welfare fund remain,after the economy minister sold so much of it in december? And how many fires and planes accidents(nkt crashes but planes having various problems) happens in russia nowadays?

@jonber9411

3 ай бұрын

@@georgecristiancripcia4819 Ignore them. No point being rational with them. Let them rot in the bowels of their beloved Csar.

History has repeated itself again, Avdivka has fallen. The Ukrainians are facing the same issues as the Finnish people during 1930s, they lack resources, manpower and landmass to wage attrition warfare. In the end, Ukraine may need to cede Crimea and Donbass/Donesk region to Russia.

"Last Stand"? Seems a bit overdramatic

Russian really did not learn any lessons did they?

@mrwhips3623

3 ай бұрын

They did. You just gobble up propaganda like theres no tomorrow

@MrSamulai

3 ай бұрын

@@mrwhips3623 Thank you for your demonstration.

@neighbor-j-4737

3 ай бұрын

​@@mrwhips3623 What did they learn, how to run towards machine guns bravely?

@bloodrave9578

3 ай бұрын

The Red Army did learn that their weaknesses were a problem and sought to modernise, Barbarossa happens as this process is happening and the Soviets start applying lessons learnt the hard way and eventually became a battle hardened and victorious army.

@georgecristiancripcia4819

3 ай бұрын

​@@bloodrave9578 Losing 5 men for every 1 of your enemy is not a victorious army.Plus all the supplies from the western allies.

Too many Finns commenting "as Finn" or "my gran"..

@anne-marie2972

3 ай бұрын

Looks like you're a Finn too 😅.

You fail to mention Norwegian and Swedish people also went to Finland to help out ther brother nation

F

don't forget to backstab Kolchak if you want to get home 😂

Reasonable presentation of the winter war. However you downplayed the political strife and war effort on the Swedish side. As far as I remember from history big parts of the population was eager to help but the government wanted to keep neutrality and said no. This resulted in an extensive under the table help that amounted to quite a substantial effort. Some 135,402 rifles, 347 machine guns, 450 light machine guns with 50,013,300 rounds of small arms ammunition; 144 field guns, 100 anti-aircraft guns and 92 anti-armour guns with 301,846 shells; 300 sea mines and 500 depth charges. The finns fought like heroes as always, the Russians fought like idiots and the dreaming swedes had almost perfectly disarmed as they tend to do both now and then.

@danieltanev4270

3 ай бұрын

The Russians beat the Finns badly in both this and the Continuation wars, and no amount of "secret" Swedish materiel support would have changed the inevitable outcome. I don't know if the Russians are idiots, but they are the best soldiers on the planet.

1 milion troops.... Mother russia was very busy maing kids

The Finns ah yes , orc removal before it was cool

Sorry but that AI animation is craptacular get that outta here

100 years later nothing changes in this ruzzian evil empire🤷‍♂️

Lost the war then joined the nazis 😬😬

@butterflies655

3 ай бұрын

Finland won. It retained its independence and freedom. Watch what happened to the Baltic countries.

00:50 Why on Earth is the shroud on the Maxim rotating? 17:30 There's no such place as Suomossalmi. This whole video is absolute nonsense.

@tomeyboo

3 ай бұрын

Suomussalmi...

Its funny how you present a defeat as a victory for Finland, and that is an ongoing bullshit presented about this war. Finland put up a good defense for a while, but they did not win, in fact they lost more territory then what Stalin wanted in the beginning.

@sampohonkala4195

3 ай бұрын

In reality the USSR formed a puppet government of Finnish communists that had lead the attempted revoulution 1918 and the fled to Russia. The purpose of this was to repalce the Helsinki government as soon as the Red Army had taken Helsinki under control. When we look at the war goals of the USSR - the occupation and incorporation of Finland - and the war goals of Finland - to protect independence and sovereignty within the Finnish borders - we notice that the Red Army totally failed to accomplish their task, whereas the Finnish army reached 90% of their goal, losing 10% of the territory.

@DelijeSerbia

3 ай бұрын

@@sampohonkala4195 no, that was not the war goal. War goal was the ultimatum they gave to Finland and that is the expanded control around Leningrad. Yes the ultimate goal was returning Finland under control, but at the time Soviets were looking to prepare for the war with Germany.

@NoMoreCrumbs

3 ай бұрын

Amazing that you believe that the SU somehow time traveled to 4 years prior to its own creation to influence Finnish communists instead of believing that communism was extremely popular among the poor worldwide. Also, the Soviets achieved their strategic goals in the Winter War, so yeah it was a Soviet victory Some people just can't get over the idea that k/d matters, as if real war is a Call of Duty match. I can see why Americans have lost every conflict they've gotten into for the last 70 years. There's no strategic thinking of any kind

@sampohonkala4195

3 ай бұрын

@@NoMoreCrumbs Obviously I did not explain the issue clearly enough for people that haave limited knowledge on the issue. The USSR formed a puppet government, the so called Kuusinen government in 1939. Kuusinen and other Finns in that government were communists that had fled from Finland in 1918 as the attempted revolution failed. This government was supposed to replace the legal Finnish government as soon as the Red Army took Helsinki in control. Which they totally failed to do.

@fsdspdf2717

3 ай бұрын

Stalin failed to annex Finland during the winter war, which was his original goal. The Soviets got far less than what they wanted.

No way am I playing a game where I am part of the White Army. I'm fascinated by the military history, but I'm not keen to side with proto-fascists.

@fsdspdf2717

3 ай бұрын

The Whites were not "proto-fascists". Unless of course you're a hardcore communist to whom everything right of social democracy is fascistic. The Finnish Whites were actually instrumental in supressing actual fascists in the early 1930's.

@kekkoinen

3 ай бұрын

"proto fascists" neither the Finnish government or any significant part of the population was fascists, as all the government's were legally elected and no coups were made during the wars, or any other time really

@kekkoinen

3 ай бұрын

To add to my other comment, the 3 leaders during the wars were Kallio, who was from the agrarian party, Mannerheim, who was the marshal. He ruled during the wartime as the leader of the army with both the prime Minister's and the president's approval. The other president was Ryti, who was the leader of the banks appointed by Kallio, a prime minister at a point, a member of the liberal party and then the president.

@Fernybun

3 ай бұрын

Bruh it's a game ☠️

@Bleilock1

3 ай бұрын

​​@@fsdspdf2717 all monarchists and absolute monarchists were proto fascists Sorry if you recognize yourself in it Edit: Sry, was thinking you were talking about russian whites

I enjoy this documentary because it was very informative. For me it highlighted Russia's imperial nature and the parallels, we are seeing in Ukraine.