Sensible conversation. Well done Mike and Chris.

Nice to see Chris Hattingh on this panel - intelligent, eloquent and insightful with very sobering opinions. Same goes for Mike.

cool tie mike

IF we had state of the art public hospitals and badly run private medical facilities I could support NHI....... but knowing the terrible public health care there is no hope for the future of NHI.....

If equitable healthcare is so important to the government, it begs the question why are so many provincial hospitals in dissaray to the point of neglect? Something is Very wrong with this picture!

My problem with NHI is that even in devloped nation's with national health systems, they terrible service delivery. How is a developing nation with much higher rates of unemployment supposed to do it effectively.

Anc is deliberate in making SA non functional 😢

Listen i mean I'm all for dogging on the ANC and the Government on their nonsense, but i was genuinely interested in hearing your guest breakdown the issues with NHI ....i mean a well founded technical breakdown but sadly this thing got all sidetracked .... feel click baited here 😑

It is clear now that ANC will be the dominant party after the election. Surely it's time for opposition parties to go to carrot and stick approach. Start by pushing for prosecution of corrupt, incompetent, tainted cadres. In return offer coalition in one or two DA municipalities to start with. Build trust.

Are the only people that don’t vote for the ANC left in South Africa people that really can’t immigrate?

Your problem Mike is that 90 percent of your guests agree with your right wing DA like worldview. The problem is that you don't get the professional viewpoint of the other side. On the other side you invite people who don't know anything about the topic or shifted policy in some way. You should for example have brought by now the DG of Health to explain the need for National Health Insurance which by the way doesn't get rid of private healthcare like so many people think. The inequity in health is appalling and it's surprising nothing was done earlier. The real issue is why should anyone want to advocate for the continuation of a system where 15 percent of the population uses just about 80 percent of all funds from Treasury for their private needs while the remaining population majority get the scraps? It's insane to want to continue that. And some say well just fund hospitals better , well that's exactly what NHI does. My problem with so many South Africans is that they listen to media sound bites and want to always complain instead of working with the government to give solutions. The private sector could drive this health plan but all I hear is complaints and no solutions. This new law is so open ended that new innovations can come through and govt has left it that way deliberately so. Let's stop complaining, vote, and get to work to make the country better, don't sit on the sidelines.