Bongani you need to listen to this interview again and again and again.again . write it down what leon is saying..because you are not listening

@daydreamzzzzzz

6 жыл бұрын

Only thinking of your own opinion or next question

@architecture.w

6 жыл бұрын

Leon is lying.

Bongani desperately going through his notes to find an argument

Bongani you really must allow the interview and it's various points of view to develop, you're intrusive and refuse to allow your guest to develop his point. You come across strongly as someone who'se opinionated, and perhaps just expressing an opinion or view put over to you by your bosses. You're not showing free thinking and independent thought, and that's a concern bongani

@jackstander4519

6 жыл бұрын

What did you expect from a MSM puppet? Just another desk jokey taking instructions from the earpiece. In other words a flunky

@V4per

6 жыл бұрын

Nadia Loewke Well said. I used to be a fan of his, now I realize he is a terribad captured journalist.

@beautifulplaces7809

4 жыл бұрын

true.fake news

@thabisoaubrey9381

4 жыл бұрын

Nadia Loewke, your critique is quite informative and eye opening. What I mostly love about it is that you did it without attacking him. now this is what I call constructive critism

@tambwekazuba170

4 жыл бұрын

When you are riding in a stolen car, you don't have to surprise when the owner find it and get it back.

This sounds like CNN. Bongani can go an work for CNN he will do well there.

@davesmith6949

6 жыл бұрын

sabc is #fakenews just like cnn

@beautifulplaces7809

4 жыл бұрын

@@davesmith6949lol thats what I was thinking

Bongani mentions Alan Payton. Its ironic that his widow FLED from the New South Africa.

I am also against land owned by government. Land should be distributed amongst people. If you give politician to much power it's becomes a big problem

@lonwabolloyd4246

6 жыл бұрын

Siyabonga u are lost my brother , Land is the huge investment which could be able to save the poor from poverty... which is us black...

@V4per

6 жыл бұрын

Wrong, land may give blacks dignity, but it will not do anything to alleviate poverty.

@6thgearnomad

6 жыл бұрын

Land needs investment in order to be productive. Nothing will ever change that and it is right there where you miss the point. Where will such investment come from? It is time to be honest about this issue.

@alexbinns9528

5 жыл бұрын

The ANC got controle over SA... and yet the financial-system is corrupt. the Zar-USD is still declining since the 95. Now the land need to be farmed by black farmers, instead of ppl that where there for generations that know the land?

Bongani has his own mindset and he does not want to hear anything else.Just leave him to his own devices.

Bongani - stop yapping, and listen to the guest who was invited to speak on this show. You are there to facilitate and not to feel touched

Very Very disappointed in Bongani. One can clearly see he is captured.

BIG UP to Bongani. "Be afraid, be very afraid"

It's not about land, it's about control. Expropriation without Compensation is making ultimate tyranny possible.

It’s difficult to discuss “expropriation without compensation” when Bongani struggles to comprehend the basic meaning of words.

Wake up Bongani!!!!

governement received 700,000 submissions guiess what none was read.

What amazing strength. Leon you did not buckle once under the interviewer's personal attacks. I wish I can master this skill as well as you did. Very attractive trait.

@Dinuzulu1879

Жыл бұрын

The Africans in South Africa can tolerate so much. If this was west Africa we would chase you European settlers to the sea

@modinikiluli

Жыл бұрын

Yh but like all you tranny VANilla idiots. You dont answer the question properly. You do the same in Europe. Cowardly people.

What is NOT being listened to is that ether you have property rights or you do not. Without property rights every person, from this point onwards, can be victimised at any point in time.

Actually 1:20 is a bit prophetic. Property prices are now falling in inflation adjusted terms in SA as of early August. If you know something about property prices you know that this is already a disaster.

Kani glo Bongani is so dom nie.

That's the message from Zulu monarch King Goodwill Zwelithini who is headed for what could be a bruising battle with the ANC over the sensitive issue of rural land custodianship.

@sakit17

6 жыл бұрын

Willem Van Aswegen Land will not be taken from black people like the zulu king but from white settlers

@willemvanaswegen1937

6 жыл бұрын

There you go - investors beware - these people change their mind every second. Does not matter is there are contracts and deeds that proofs otherwise. After the mess up the farm land, they will look for another scapegoat - private properties in cities, Factories and businesses. The farms is just the beginning. Hope you run the same road as your northern friend Zimbabwe when you cannot buy a bread with R1 million dollar not.

@chrisniem1256

6 жыл бұрын

Mr.T You are also a settler, show me where were you in 1652

@mansamusa6505

2 жыл бұрын

@@willemvanaswegen1937 your are very foolish.

Bongani you are being subjective. If you interview someone let them talk and if you wanna differ put facts on the table.

What a clown the host......Change the word from white SA to Black SA and see how clear it gets Sherlock...!!! Any Clarity...!!!

All I know is when logic is replaced by affinity to race I doubt any solution is possible.

But that is the exact reason why the whole Country is invited to open and transparent public engagements, in and outside Parliament, so that we can all come together and determine the best way to go about addressing the land issues!!!! Duuuhh. Expropriation MUST happen, we must just all participate constructively and make inputs on HOW to go about it.

The interviewer seems a bit obtuse.

Government is not clear on what they intend on doing, why change and entire property clause in the constitution if you just want the land?

Bongani has wax in his ears.

@kgomotsomashilane5194

6 жыл бұрын

lol

@alfredkillian3656

5 жыл бұрын

Between his ears.

@sirmewilliams6631

5 жыл бұрын

It might be more than wax......

Frustrating interview.

ANC mouthpiece.

this presenter is so obsessed with what he is saying and he is not even listening to the old man, who is presenting very important concerns.

Bongani is being touched on his studio. Let the man speak, you brought him on the show. Stop interrupting, quite unprofessional.

@mohlomitauhadi2249

6 жыл бұрын

But he is talking crap... wasting viewers time. He has nothing constructive to put on the table.

@V4per

6 жыл бұрын

Mohlomi Tauhadi I'm sorry you can't understand words. Guess you should've stayed in school :(

@glenelg3000

6 жыл бұрын

Dr. LoLCat Fake news tactic.

@andre3823

6 жыл бұрын

Eddy Koning, you must wake up and stop dreaming!

@Gr0t0tter

6 жыл бұрын

Bongani's too busy pushing his own "You're busy fearmongering and spreading paranoia" agenda to listen to what the man is actually saying. It's rather simple - by passing this change to the constitution, property rights will be eroded - and if done correctly, would empower anyone in the employ of the state to seize property without compensation. The potential for abuse & corruption is mind-boggling.... And make no mistake, the unscrupulous cronies won't go all-out trying to expropriate the property of well-to-do folks who have the resources to fight back from a legal standpoint. They'll start with the low-hanging fruit - the poor living in rural areas and townships.

Why did Bongani become so aggressive towards his interviewee? Please show respect!

Bongani is supposed to interview the guy but ends up accusing him of being a fear monger. They are looking for people like Bongani on CNN.

So its a pro-ANC journalist

Let them do this at the moment we don't even have power in this country. This will stop all outside investments

Bongani , your wrong mate , if it was disposed land, and the people can prove the land , we all know this is not true, if the clause was limited to this and not all land then we can talk,

This presenter is not even listening, busy flipping through pages to ask the next question he has very little clue about

South Africa is finished. If ppl can't see why EWC isn't a problem for the economy, then there is no hope

I need to stop travelling for vacations to Europe and rather move there. We have no power and terrible crime here. Its a horrible country now.

Bongani doesn't understand what Leon is saying at all.

Bongani like so many is looking at race and not to the issue! Go do your homework Bongani! Do not try to be clever!

@ELLIOT8209

6 жыл бұрын

Pieter Janse van Rensburg and you are looking at race without even realizing it. That makes you a dumb racist.

@DavidHarsant1

6 жыл бұрын

state sponsored news... do we expect anything different? Do we actually expect him to speak out against the government?

Free market in Africa is wrong. Following the plunder of African minerals during colonial rule they introduce free market to minimize the participation of the former underprivileged people. In order to grow the continent's economy , African countries must start trading with one another on a big and small scale.

"Fear mongering"? I would say it's justified fear

Bongani and the people talking into his ear are seriously looking stupid when they claim their guest is extreme when the discussion is actually an extreme matter, making Bongani and Co look like the worst of the sheeple who actually all believe that they are actually going to get given a farm by the ANC or the EFF.....

If any constitution enshrines expropriation without compensation, it is in effect declaring all citizens have no rights. It has stopped being a law, and is simply a declaration of power by the currently powerful. We know where this leads--starvation, war, and death. Has nothing been learned from the Soviet Union or Maoist China, or Pol Pot in Cambodia? This is not about justice. It is about revenge.

Politics and evil are one in the same.. Satan hides behind a different name.

Listen to the grey old man, he is wise, experienced and honest.

@africanmind4018

6 жыл бұрын

Jan's Frame. The old man is so stupid just like you are

@DavidHarsant1

6 жыл бұрын

that old man has probably organised more title deeds for black poverty stricken people than what the government has, the least you can do is listen.

@myabbayah9092

6 жыл бұрын

Jan's Frame no he can't be honest. No such thing as in honest white man. Stop it..

Ag please .. bongani is blind

Is the argument asset expropriation or rather land expropriation specifically??

I'd like to know what bongani's idea of the bill is, he asks for the guests opinion then baggers him for fear mongering.... What did I just watch?? An interview??

The no freedom here

bongani I had respect for you but im affraid you do not know hot to listen

Thank you for an extremely holistic, insightful, and clear presentation Leon. I think the people of South Africa should be sensitized to political gas-lighting.

@Dinuzulu1879

Жыл бұрын

The Africans in South Africa are tolerant. If this is west Africa the EU would have to send ships to collect you people

Bonganis faith in the ANC is heartwarming .... lets hope he is suitably rewarded

I image Dr Maserumule, dealing with land invasion of his farm north of Pta, will agree with LL.

I dont know whats true anymore. Really how do I begin to find the evidence. Age of Illusion. :-(

The journalist keeps using the "constitution" in defense for the fairness of the proposed land reform act! Is he talking about the VERY SAME CONSTITUTION that they are wanting to CHANGE in order to give OWNERSHIP to the GOVERNMENT and NOT directly to the PEOPLE. I think the presenter/journalist's argument is weak. I have no problem if government went through the proper avenues to reinstate land to the people who can prove ancestral ownership, but to institute a law that gives the government and municipalities the right to CONFISCATE land is an utter disservice to all people of the country and leaves the people in "servitude" to the government. This is a coercive method to retain power and control over the people, but the people unfortunately are too short sighted to see this. The presenter CLEARLY strawmans the guest by twisting his words and painting a biased narrative that the media wants to portray, and the media will not be there to uphold the rights of the people once those rights are lost to a dictatorship. It is an irresponsible and shameful thing this news station is doing. As a south african I know what this government stands for. Their Marxist/communist agenda is not only going to effect the whites. Unfortunately the people are so naive and don't understand the history of communism or its failures in the past. Keep in mind the laws and politics utilized here by the ANC are western laws and politics, and the majority of the people in south africa still follow traditional cultural ideologies, and do not understand the implications of these laws. The government like all governments worldwide are making promises they do not intend on fulfilling or cannot fulfill. The current plan is not financially or logistically viable, and unfortunately the more acceptable alternative is a case by case investigation into the history and ownership of the land in question, which takes time, but it is more fair to EVERY citizen, as well as those who indeed had land taken, all the while maintaining a fair constitution.

In Australia,people learned harsh and expensive lessons in the land share movement. What we learned is that people need to OWN their small block(3 acre) within communally owned farms. The bank won't loan without title deeds.Neighbours who don't like you can prevent you from progressing or selling. Title deeds protect right to improve yourself. More expensive to set up but essential in longer term

@davesmith6949

6 жыл бұрын

@ rick you can't tell it to these socialist/communist retards, they think they know everything. Let them find out the hard way that their anc/sacp masters are taking them for a ride and die of famine on property they will never own as it will be state owned. They don't even realize this is what happened in all communist/socialist countries for example the soviet-union, china, venezuela et alia. People were saying people were "fear mongering" in zimbabwe too, look at what happened there. lol. UN food program coming to a city near them in south africa soon. lol.

This guy might have point. Land grab maybe is not the solution better yet without compensation🤔. The lesser government, more power to the people.. and by the way this is not about apartheid,no this is about business and making money.. I smell corruption👎

Mr Bongani listen

His a ANC presentator lol. This man made him look stupid. In South Africa its so corrupt people do want they like. They will take your car and house.

but the 'constitution' keeps changing

The law will always "in time" be implemented to its letter. Just because a president says a law will be implemented in a certain way does not mean the law will not be implemented to its letter by officials in the future. When they passed the law to ban drinking in public they assured people it would not affect their ability to have a beer in a park with their lunch but now a police man will fine you if he sees such a thing. Intention means nothing in law, the letter of the law means everything.

Come to be interviewed on Bongani's show, to be lectured to by someone who is a captured stooge of ANC's Wakanda idealism...

Um, why is it that nobody is pointing out that the colonists that did bad things are long since dead. Please live in the present when arguing for the future. Now that said can somebody please tell me how abolishing land rights helps anybody?

@matome7301

6 жыл бұрын

Void Sire Colonialists only die in the face of those who received the dividends from their deeds. To their victims they are very alive and the consequences are very raw.

@sakit17

6 жыл бұрын

I am alive and your dead parents took my land and I want it back.

@voidsire8668

6 жыл бұрын

Your land you say. Your land. As in land that you owned? Yeah, no I call bullshit. But hey while we are speaking about punishing people for the deeds their long dead ancestors, I wonder how many people within your ancestral line have committed crimes that apparently you should be held accountable for. Is there a limit how far back we are allowed to search? Or can we please talk about the present and do something constructive?

@IAMCorung

6 жыл бұрын

Void Sire The question is; Is the current generation still benefiting from the past crimes of their ancestors?

@chrisniem1256

6 жыл бұрын

@@IAMCorung You mean the Current most Corrupt & Racist government in the World as no 1 in Murder & Rape with AA, BEE, BBE, State Capture by Gupta, all Minerals sold to China, the 119 laws against whites to exclude them from jobs, government jobs, business, any & all employee benefits, no grants to whites or financial relief for white orphans, Hoaxes on land claims, where 30% of White owned land, which was legally purchased, with agreements between the Khoi, Xhosa & Dingaan went into government hands, The last 11%( Business Tech Statistics) of land owned by whites allowed to be stolen from them, by Changing the constitution on property rights also the mass murder & torture of white farmers now standing at 4000+ farmers, the torture of children drowned in boiling water, babies raped, women, men & children raped, persons hacked to death, using drills to drill into their limbs, burning them alive also burning them with hot Irons, killing children with spades etc. etc. This was never done to any black person during Apartheid, Which is a not just gross human rights violation, but a genocide on Whites. Also Stealing white's property & not providing them with Homelands or alternatives, like the Apartheid government did, for the blacks, so we just throw them on the street & it is ok for you?! yet more people are unemployed now then the entire history of South Africa. Just the 1st 5 yrs of ANC rule made apartheid look like a bedtime story, are you aware whites don't own the wealth of the country, Blacks do, there are only 25000 farmers left from 140000 to feed the nation & these farmers have been offered safe haven in Russia & Australia, but you are so blind by misinformation & hate you will pay more for allowing these Gross Human rights violations against whites in the future, it is the order of worlds

Can clearly see Bongani is on a certain side..

@miyoba1

5 жыл бұрын

Same with Mr be very scared

He is saying appropriotiation of property.

The director is an expert

Bongani you got him my brother

1. Does this amendment require a 2/3 majority? 2. When did the ANC last have anything close to that? 3. If they have no chance of amending the constitution on this matter why raise it? THIS IS A PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN WITH OTHER MOTIVES. SOUTH AFRICANS SHOULD NOT FALL FOR THIS TRAP! WE NEED TO STAY UNITED!

What a difference a couple months makes.

this is an argument not an interview. wont bother finishing watching

Dispossessed because of your own actions.

Anyone who bought property which is confiscated will of course sue the conveyancing lawyers and the banks who loaned them the money. In essence they bought 'stolen land' apparently. Well it was the duty of the lawyers and the deeds office who transferred the property at the time to point this out. The fact that they did not means they did not do their due diligence and therefore were incompetent. This should bankrupt large sections of the banking and Real Estate fraternity and should throw the system into chaos.

@luissoares3219

6 жыл бұрын

True and don't forget that the State also was a recipient of stolen goods in the way of transfer duties etc hence the entire cabinet should be locked up for dealing in stolen property.

This will be a monumental failure. Goodluck getting those IMF loans Mr Rapahosa, your gonna need it.0

The law of south Africa need to change.just like how Canadian and American change their laws

Great debate, amazing journalism

Africa need to do just the same thing on keep on doing it

Bongani drank the kool aid....

Each year the law should be change in africa.

Bongani you are clueless of the future. I wish you could have some knowledge about this. South African government sign for international property right and is breaching that agreement and will face the Consequence... You purely clueless

Government must give back all monies they stole

we are not the products of Leon Louw, so let him go address his people not us....he must be clear because is not like he understand where black people come from

@ericscaillet6087

3 жыл бұрын

from Mars?, dam,thought we were all humans.

its unnerving that our journalists, our government only recognise black as the race dispossessed when in truth , black tribes stole land from the khoisan before europeans arrived in south africa.. the descendants of the khoisan, known today as the coloured race, are the native people of south africa, not the black tribes. our government has oppressed the coloured race since apartheid ended.

Sorry, Leon. You just got schooled. Great interview. ''Be afraid, be very afraid''. Honeymoon is OVER!!

what an Independence and Impartial interview ...

They should known that this day would come... they were just in denial too long

B1✊

Please! due

Why don’t they just leave they know they’re parasitic intruders why do they keep insisting on being a curse

period

Word

Poor old guy🤣🤣

Bongani! Try walking in truth, it's not difficult.

Sifuna umhlaba wethu qha😮

That guy is a fear monger as the host says. He is just talking nonsense and has no solution to offer on what should be done regarding land reform in South Africa.

its illegal what you want to do

this will be a lot worse if nit gos a head

What land were the majority dispossessed of? Far as I know land always belonged to tribal kings and chiefs. If individual people owned land where is the paperwork? Surely records of those transactions must be held somewhere? Does it mean that if you are black and sit in the middle of the road that road now belongs to you? As a white man can I go work for a black farmer and after 5 months he has to give me half his farm? Aag komaan! I cannot believe that we South Africans can be so ignorant to think that attitudes like this land and property farce upheld by politicians is going to fix our problems. The education disaster at school level is a crime against our people and present government should be fired for not fixing it in 24 years!! Fix education and everything else will follow. The country will grow rapidly. Last but not least fathers in this country need to stand up and be counted!!

@DavidHarsant1

6 жыл бұрын

100 percent agree. Property rights needs to be protected. The economy rests on this fact.

@raymonddelport9930

6 жыл бұрын

LAND BELONGS TO PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT IT

@RSVPrr

Жыл бұрын

People did have title deeds when the National Party introduced the Native lands act of 1913 and the Land act of 1936 which expropriated land without compensation. Do some research, it's literally on google. People did have title deeds but the land was taken by the White government by force.

@RSVPrr

Жыл бұрын

@@raymonddelport9930 But they did not buy it.

@RSVPrr

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidHarsant1 No it doesn''t

Zimbabwe and Azania Https://www.wevideo.com/view/1196751688 Obi Egbuna on the ground in Zimbabwe www.wevideo.com/view/1114984980

Let us give you clarity. Change the word from white SA to Black SA and see how clear it gets Sherlock...!!!