Thank u Helen for standing ur ground against these corrupt criminals, they want to frustrate u nd want u out, bt ur our iron Lady.We salute u. 😂😂😂

@MzamoAdoons372

28 күн бұрын

And I love you Helen

@ZuzumziNgubo

27 күн бұрын

As long they still together in kzn nothing change they all together.

@charmainehowden8207

27 күн бұрын

She backstabbed the voters and the ANX outsmarted her😂

This woman cares!!! Protect her at all costs!!!

@truth-Hurts375

27 күн бұрын

Cares about her Rich White Mates....yes !!!!

@bas0209

27 күн бұрын

For who?

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

Another DA voter 😊

@charmainehowden8207

27 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂she does nothing for anyone but herself

@GcinaTV

27 күн бұрын

@@bevturner2258 no, was a first time voter. Voted for IFP. But if the DA does right for a black man like me. I’m all in for DA.

The example of what a great leader looks and acts like! Helen Zille is one of a kind.

@charmainehowden8207

27 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

The UK had their Iron Lady , South Africa has our own Iron Lady in Helen Zille , the only political genius in South Africa 💙💙💙

@0761ZoRO

28 күн бұрын

Except this one has never and will never lead any national government.

@buyiselwaxozumthi3908

28 күн бұрын

@@PointOfView2004 Are you really going to stand by your comment from now on? Is it wise to comment like this ? Dit you take time to think about it. If so, it is not wise to do that. Rest assured about me asking this question. Im not about to tell you any thing different. But in future just think very hard before you comment. Wish you the best.

@PointOfView2004

27 күн бұрын

@@0761ZoRO She makes the deals, even the EFF votes with the DA when she asks them to look at 2016, she is in charge.

@ninaosborne2004

27 күн бұрын

​​@@0761ZoRONever say never. You might just see never come nevering and disappear.

Stand your ground behind you all the way 💙

@DanieKoch

28 күн бұрын

Amen

@MzamoAdoons372

28 күн бұрын

​@@DanieKoch and thanks Jesus

@bas0209

27 күн бұрын

@@MzamoAdoons372 🙄

@LT.J

27 күн бұрын

but they did not get the best deal they were robbed

@menelisisikhahlane9542

21 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 wahh!!!

Well said Helen... we as DA supporters trust in you 100%

@0761ZoRO

28 күн бұрын

As she is losing 100%😂

@Alex-ze2ii

28 күн бұрын

@@0761ZoROANC lost. You can cry all you want but it’s facts. Take your tears elsewhere.

We salute you Helen thank you for your relentless sacrifices for our country 🫶🙌🙏🥂

It will be a hard road Helen, Ethics is not a common thread in Africa

@0761ZoRO

28 күн бұрын

Neither in the west😊

@Alex-ze2ii

28 күн бұрын

@@0761ZoRO we are not in the west. We are in Africa and that’s what we talking about. Focus on

@MzamoAdoons372

28 күн бұрын

​@@0761ZoROwho cares about the west, Africa is corrupt chief.Period!

@melmthombeni9761

27 күн бұрын

@@Alex-ze2ii nobody said we're in the west. Learn to read properly.

@Alex-ze2ii

27 күн бұрын

@@melmthombeni9761 my point is that why is he speaking about the west when it has nothing to do with us. The politicians in Africa where we live are corrupt and it affects us South Africans. End of story. Tired of these useless tactics. We are not stupid

We are behind you Hellen Zille fight this for us , we want change as people of South Africa ,we are tied of these people .

@bas0209

27 күн бұрын

Who are these people, Patric? And who are you?

Well said Helen Zilla. You are the brains in the DA, your continuing fight for South Africa and all it’s people, there aren’t many politicians with your insight and drive, unfortunately the majority of South Africans have failed to see the hard work and integrity that you have put in into the DA party.If you win all South Africans will gain. I applaud you.

Helen Zile is a household name. Love her or hate her, she is a South African icon.

@Nothingbutthetruth6693

27 күн бұрын

@@francramalatso2883 she is your icon when you say South Africa you include me and I never vow to that or rather say most because without me truly South Africas population is incomplete to me she is a greedy old woman who is heartless lets see now western cape people are struggling with good governance impossible meaning they are crap they cant change life of those needing change im so glad Clement Manyathela have smelled the coffee because now he is exposing the shit out of DA and some will follow suit hell will break loose

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

She’s definitely a household name…

@thembamavundla8220

27 күн бұрын

Then you don't know what an icon is , it's like her mouth manufacture racial insults.

@Sihle357

27 күн бұрын

@@francramalatso2883 maybe in your household. We don't deal well with racists

@deniscoyne5671

27 күн бұрын

@@thembamavundla8220 who did she racially insult ?

Dankie Helen vir al jou harde werk. ❤

Great leader, we support you all the way Helen 💙

Thank you Mike, you have a very special channel!

@mikesham3204

28 күн бұрын

Thank you John, your comment is seriously appreciated.

Thanks for your great leadership Helen it's greatly appreciated by us, the ordinary people who love SA and all it's citizens. You tried your best and will certainly know in future not to trust these untrustworthy people.

We have heard you Hellen, loud and clear, we will support your cause…

Go Helen 💙 we trust your moral standards & ethics. Never trust the comrades

@SamuelLebogo-kf5ys

28 күн бұрын

ANC of Ramaphosa 😢

@0761ZoRO

28 күн бұрын

Can anyone trust the west really?

@altheadeconing3566

28 күн бұрын

@@mookimoves9469 fought for liberation, and now is treated as an opposed! Go Helen, long may you find the energy and strength to make SA great!

@mookimoves9469

27 күн бұрын

@altheadeconing3566 don't know how she does it. The DA considered "right" is ridiculous considering it's history

Yes..thats "Fair"..Helen South Africans have seen what these anc nutters are all about!! We love you Helen and the D.A.political party 🥇🩵💎☂️ We love our Country 🇿🇦

When you have a 30% pass rate with no math, the concept of proportionality is foreign.

Just expect the worst from the ANC in future. You are not dealing with people who have a history of behaving ethnically and honorably. What Ramaphosa did with his cabinet is unforgivable. Again, the ANC's problems become SA's problems. The electorate needs to punish the ANC decisively.

@corneliacoetz243

27 күн бұрын

Prs Ramaphosa getcaway with murder. How does he not know how corrupt some ministers and Goverment departments are and the debt of one 18 billion Rand?? Sorry now wonder they would not let DA in to certain ministerial positions...to much to hide??

@ColGaddafi

15 күн бұрын

You need to remember that Ramafriggingphosa is a DA President. He's doing nothing for the people that voted for him.

I like to listen to Helen as she never falls around for answers and she makes sense!

@0761ZoRO

28 күн бұрын

Only if you were standing in the other shoes, you would realize she is talking rubbish!

@MzamoAdoons372

28 күн бұрын

​@@0761ZoROare you from MK😂😂

@gregorygoodspeed8235

27 күн бұрын

Helen Zille is a sharp pencil. She is 3 steps ahead. You not just going to pull a fast one on her.

@janineroux2398

27 күн бұрын

​@@0761ZoROglad you are at least managing to listen... Listen harder..!

Thank you Helen for your confidence and fantastic understanding of how a fair and transparent government should run. I am condident that in all the departments that the DA is in charge of there will be improvement and success.

What I don't understand is why the ANC gets to allocate who gets what, when they didn't win the election.

@mikesham3204

28 күн бұрын

The reality is that there was a constitutionally mandated deadline to elect the President and Speaker, nationally and provincially. An agreement was entered into in which the ANC got the President and Gauteng Premier and the IFP got the KZN Premier. The rest of the allocation of cabinet seats and other important posts were agreed by all parties in a signed agreement. The ANC chose not to honour the signed agreement because, according to the constitution, the President or Premier is the person who can "decide" who gets what. The ANC, flat out reneged on a signed agreement.

@MzamoAdoons372

27 күн бұрын

I am always struggling to understand it really, they are walking around like Father Christmas giving children biscuits and sweets😂😂😂

@hansielategan969

27 күн бұрын

Of course they won the election. Don't fall into the political jargon that they did not win. They did not win with an outright majority, but they still win the election and still has all the power. It was their choice and their choice alone to go into this "GNU". They are the only party that could make that choice. They had alternatives on the table and choose this one, but whatever the DA wants to ask or claim can only happen if the ANC agrees. The DA has no rights to stand on - the party with the most votes have that right.

@melmthombeni9761

27 күн бұрын

DA didn't win either

@ZuzumziNgubo

27 күн бұрын

I really don't care about DA they talk about ANC thiefs and all that,at the end they go and work together with ANC the same people they called thiefs,how we believe them.

Helen is Brilliant ! People like this needs run a government , who actually has a brain in between her ears

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

A fan are you? 😊

Nelson Mandela is proud of you Helen 🙏moral standards and ethics leadership.

@koketsok7391

28 күн бұрын

@@KaygeeAMO where does Mandela come into this let him rest

@CeciliaAdrio-ek5iq

28 күн бұрын

Indeed!! 👍

@stevedavidson666

28 күн бұрын

@@koketsok7391 Because he's probably been spinning in his grave at the disgraceful corruption and incompetence of the ANC and needs something to hang onto?

@engineer3126

28 күн бұрын

NO, he is not, stop white washing mandela

@yvonnememela918

28 күн бұрын

Mandela has got nothing to do with this, let alone be proud of the DA. What is there to be proud of?

As a current DA Jhb Councillor I can personally attest that we did not refer to ourselves as the DA led anything. We were in the main disciplined about this (though the reality was that we were leading the coalition). You can see this in the numerous speeches that the DA made. Strangely enough, the political party that did keep referring to us this way was ActionSA. Yet that was one of their own complaints! IMHO a bit silly.

@lm_b5080

27 күн бұрын

next election you guys need to work your butts off to win back those votes from the smaller parties. and really start securing the urban black vote - this is critical!

The ANC built the boat, no ballast, a cardboard anchor, not an oar in sight. I believe the boat has sailed with a competent crew left behind on the pier. Thank you Mike.

@mikesham3204

28 күн бұрын

I like this!

@desstanbridge8283

27 күн бұрын

Oops..you forgot the spinnaker..😅

@0761ZoRO

26 күн бұрын

This arrogance and condescending mentality is what brought Zille down.

Even if the DA didn't get the seats they wanted, at least now they can see and report on what is going on.

@Yvdberg

27 күн бұрын

This fact is going to be an absolute game changer for South Africans.

Helen the best that SA has to offer ! She is brilliant

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

Yip, that’s what DA Voters think 😊

@amm7088

27 күн бұрын

@@bevturner2258 off course !We don’t care what other think

Will the electorate see through the ANC? Will the electorate punish the ANC further for its greed?

@mikesham3204

28 күн бұрын

Instead of dealing in good faith with an experienced partner, the ANC will run a bad government that they dominate and they will look bad. They will lose another 10% at the next election. Keep an eye on the bi-elections. Better still, keep watching the State of the Nation.

Correct Mike, DECEIVED, dirty play, low integrity and will never change. We heard nothing and had to guess what went on behind closed doors. Got to know your trade in dealing with snakes like Cyril and his corrupted gangs.

@mikesham3204

28 күн бұрын

This is why I want to show everyone what happened. We know that the mass media will not do it.

Love Helen, she knows what she is doing, strong as Bull

Helen is fighting for all of us black white Indians and colored people

Helen has been brilliant all these years,far sighted leader and very decisive

@NQA1209

27 күн бұрын

really???

@ninaosborne2004

27 күн бұрын

@NQA1209 YES really!!!

@user-wh9zg8np1s

27 күн бұрын

@@NQA1209 once received 23% of the national votes, she is not a coward and beg to be liked or loved

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

@@user-wh9zg8np1s Actually 21.8% of the National vote. Not a spectacular result because they only gained what the FF+ lost. Big deal.

I hope you will be less critical of the DA in future, Mike. You didn't help the situation before the election. We are so fortunate to have strong people in the DA to stand up for us.

@mikesham3204

28 күн бұрын

I agree that we are really fortunate to have good people in the DA. This will makes me more determined to hold them accountable because this shows people that there is a gulf between the leaders in the DA and the others.

@lorrainesparg4874

27 күн бұрын

​@@mikesham3204others?

@RodneyErnstzen

6 күн бұрын

True .

Why the DA ever thought they could trust the ANC is a mystery

@fabianpetersen2452

26 күн бұрын

If you are trying to do something right you start off giving the other the benefit of the doubt. True wisdom was what she did afterwards,.trick me once, trick me twice comes to mind

@user-ie7ni9zj9f

23 күн бұрын

It is not trust but patriotism. ANC is still the same useless political party. DA did public demonstration for the blind ANC followers to see what is the real ANC. even those who did not vote could see for themselves that ANC is now threating South Africa like their legacy. I applauded their firm stand against ANC. DA is the only one that is challenging corrupt ANC head on.

Politics is not for the people, it's self interest period.

@mikesham3204

28 күн бұрын

I strongly disagree with you!

@comancheflyer4903

27 күн бұрын

@@mikesham3204 That's your prerogative.

The media have always been hostile towards the DA. Why the public don't seem to understand proportionality is unacceptable. However, mathematics is not a broad strength of most in SA. Seems to be a foreign concept, unfortunately.

Thank you Helen you are a Powerhouse of Mainstream Politics and Knowledge you stand firm and keep the ANC in check we love you

Please DA just do something for those jobless people and less fortunate so we can shut up these haters out there who think they own this Country

@DanieKoch

28 күн бұрын

They will help with jobs.🇿🇦🙏

@nkolisa8337

27 күн бұрын

DA should do big things in Khayeletsha and Gugulethu like flushing toilets than any other shacks in SA

@suesykes6798

27 күн бұрын

@@nkolisa8337 I agree people should still not be using pit latrines. Dean McPherson has already raised his concerns over them. Just hope it happens soon 🙏

Iron Lady.

Solly great leader.. you and Helen rock❤

Fix our country; we need DA to balance the books and get rid of the rot😢

Us the public must thank people like Helen and the DA for their hard work. They are the stronghold between us and the corrupt masses in Parliament. We must stop to criticize constantly--ask yourself--will I be able to do it better?

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

I think the problem is that a lot of people thought they could have done better lol That’s obvious from the comments 😊

According to statistics, the DA got 25% of the votes. Of that, 32% was black, 30%white and 31% coloured. 7% was Indian. The DA is a diverse party, the only one in this country. Can the media, which in its majority belong to the ANC, fact check before they make false allegations or spread hate news. Please. Thank you

@andrewgreener

27 күн бұрын

Where? Nationally, or at Provincial level?

@nxumalonkululeko4198

27 күн бұрын

@@MagdaNortje votes were rigged

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

If you’re talking nationally, the DA got 21.8% of the votes. Although the DA is not a “White” party, it is perceived as such because most Whites vote DA. However, Whites only make up 7.3% of the population (and that includes those too young to vote). Obviously if 21.8% voted DA, they must have at least 15/% from other racial groups.

@lindamanamela7998

27 күн бұрын

So, are you saying our black people wasted our votes by giving them to the FORMER NP that massacred their family members and relatives ? Do they sometimes visit the cemeteries of South Africa to see innocent bodies lying there due to the killings by the White people during 1976 and after ? I DONT THINK DO.

@LT.J

27 күн бұрын

delusion, DA got less votes than 2019 but due to voter turnout being lower DA got 21%

Maybe the DA should employ more detectives to get info about what the rival parties are planning beforehand.

@LonelyTreeSunset

28 күн бұрын

Just expect the worst. They are not dealing with people that have a history of behaving ethnically and honorably. What Ramaphosa did with his cabinet is unforgivable. Again, the ANC's problems become SA's problems. The electorate needs to punish the ANC decisively.

@0761ZoRO

28 күн бұрын

Not when God is on the side of the oppressed, ask Goliath😀

@Alex-ze2ii

28 күн бұрын

@@0761ZoROman you’re sour

@gbone7581

27 күн бұрын

Maybe they should just remember Dingane?

That tannie is a machine.

Thanks again Mike for this update!!

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

Thank you for your support

Oh Helen you would have made such a perfect president,a year in your tenure ALL South Africa would be behind you,even those gogos who are so afraid and still vote according to past loyalties and scare tactics from the corrupt parties

Iron lady stay strong 😊

@DanieKoch

27 күн бұрын

Agree

Well said Helen really praying for you and DA in full to be Blessed all round guided by God and to succeed really well in all ministries and through it create more jobs for all and help the disadvantaged

Given +/- 30 years of face to face with the ANC, the DA was unfortunately both Outsmarted and Deceived Helen

@andrewgreener

27 күн бұрын

If you listen to her interview with Mike, she explains that in lots of detail.

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

@@andrewgreener I listened. It never occurred to Helen that the ANC would create extra positions to accommodate the ANC. Really? The DA should have had in writing how many Cabinet Ministers there were going to be. How else do you work out (proportionally) the number of seats you should get? Helen PRESUMED there’d be 27. On what basis? Obviously if you’re including extra parties you can’t reduce the size of the Cabinet. How many Cabinet Ministers will there be is the FIRST question! Then you work out your share. Sheer stupidity!

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

The DA / Helen was outsmarted and the ANC was dishonest. They withheld the fact they intended to increase the Cabinet Ministers from 30 to 32. Helen THOUGHT the ANC would reduce to 27. Really?The ANC intended including additional parties, so of course there wouldn’t be a reduced number of seats.

@RodneyErnstzen

6 күн бұрын

She knows now .

Just going to come in here and say, Voetsek ANC.

@Yvdberg

27 күн бұрын

Thank you for your service Sir🤣

Well said on the Bela bill …I’m so proud of how ,she without any fear made it clear that the DA is willing to walk away from the gnu 🎉🎉🎉🎉

I'm a first time voter of the DA & I've never been disappointed, DA does indeed stick to their words... South Africa need honest leaders that will lead with intergrity, uphold the law & provide good governance... I'm glad we have such leaders in the DA.

Thank you DA. Experienced, hard work Professional and honest ethics. We s 9:17 alute you!! For the sake of rescue our Country. ANC should step aside!

Team SONA , thank you for your diligent work providing intelligent and thoughtful interviews across the whole political and business spectrum in SA. To Mike Sham , keep interviewing and building your on camera skills along with your insightful probing questions. Appreciate your work….. A South African “tucker carlson” in the making without the laugh and attack anything blue with personal vitriol persona. Just imagine if your channel had the reach his channel enjoys, State of The Nation channel would be in a different scenario altogether …..????? To Helen Ziller Thank you for your service to South Africa.

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

Thank you for your comment Neville. The whole team is boosted by this. We will keep it coming and growth is guaranteed.

Can tell ANC have never had to share their sweeties with a sibling.

Once bitten twice shy well done DA for handling the corrupt ANC in Gauteng. Already Lesufi is back peddling.

Not one word is spoken about the people who are affected by so much while they fight for positions 🤦‍♀️😢

@vedaventer7800

27 күн бұрын

@@desirezwahlen6036 lovely hair style

@lorrainesparg4874

27 күн бұрын

But we can trust that whatever Helen is doing she will be doing it with yours and my best interests at heart.

Maybe you should have learned from history .... Dingaan...

@tanialouw8246

27 күн бұрын

U mean to to kill then to be killed,I don't think so.She's too transparent and nor as sneaky as Dingaan,awful chief that he was

Never trust the ANC

HELEN ZILLER WOULD BE A FANTASTIC WONDERFUL EXCELLENT PRESIDENT OF SOUTH AFRICA!!!! I HONOUR HER, SHE IS A GREAT WOMAN.....VERY WISE, VERY MUSH INTELEGENT! SHE IS ONE OF A KIND!!! SHE EXSPLAIN THINGS VERY EASY FOR OUR NORMAL PEOPLE❤❤❤

@nonjikocyril4274

25 күн бұрын

Maybe president of Orania

That was a long wait but cos it's Helen I waited. Respect 💙🇿🇦💙

Did the DA really think they were dealing with honorable people? Unless you start thinking you are going to be disappointed every time.

@user-ie7ni9zj9f

23 күн бұрын

ANC is still the same useless political party. DA did public demonstration for the blind ANC followers to see what is the ANC really. even those who did not vote could see for themselves that ANC is now threating South Africa like their legacy. I applauded their firm stand against ANC. DA is the only one that is challenging corrupt ANC head on.

Helen is a star in SA politics. Mamparra's lurk in every corner unfortunately. All the best to the DA.

ANC is still the same. Useless.

ANC this, ANC that, the ANC is a group of individuals. Could you please tell your viewers who exactly, names please, the names of opinion leaders, are the ones who tried so hard to disregard what the electorate, the voters, decided should happen?

@MagdaNortje

28 күн бұрын

The ANC choose to take the corrupt road

I expected more from the IFP in GP. Why aren't your allies making a song and a dance about the importance of proportionality?

@mikesham3204

28 күн бұрын

I agree that the IFP must answer for their stance in Gauteng. I will get Mr Hlabisa on soon.

The only road to success is to run the allocated functions well and communicate the success consistently Also communicate the failure of the other functions We need a super aggressive marketing strategy

@mikesham3204

28 күн бұрын

Great idea and it shouldn't be hard to do.

SADTU just needs to be exposed. Follow the money and publish.

For me the DA should have walked away from the GNU when the ANC showed they could not be trusted

Under the circumstances, the DA is doing very well as SA’s conscience. The DA and ANC are very different by organizational culture and principles. I’m hoping the GNU will expose Party Ethics and Governance enough for voters to understand that we can’t live the future in the shoes of the past. At some point, we need to become a nation, in spite of our past.

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

It has already started with Public Works and oddly enough, Sports, Arts and Culture!

Thresholds of 2% and maybe even 5% would be good to consolidate the issues and get rid of small parties who basically become a waste of votes when they get only 1 seat in parliament. This is quite standard in MMP electoral systems globally.

Is anyone aware that The Government has enforced a medical check for Drivers License, every 5 years for those over sixty years i.e. PENSIONERS. The Medical Doctors charge up to and even more than R500.00 for this check up. So a pensioner must add R500.00 to whatever the new Drivers license fees will be, every 5 years. Please forward this to someone who is able to help- Thanks

@dannyarcher6370

28 күн бұрын

I support this.

@LuckyHoneyBadger-ex4ze

27 күн бұрын

@eddiee7870 I think this is fair. I cannot tell you how many older people are a danger on the roads. My MIL was one of them. Another 83 year old friend is another. I'm 63 and I fully accept that cognitive decline and reflexes must be a factor when obtaining a license.

@gbone7581

27 күн бұрын

@@LuckyHoneyBadger-ex4ze but the under 25's are more dangerous drivers!

@eddiee7870

27 күн бұрын

@@LuckyHoneyBadger-ex4ze I'm complaining of the PRICE, NOT the medical examination. Doctors are milking Pensioners as usual. We need help not condemnation SASSA's pension = R1,950.00pm ??? Meat is unaffordable thus we grow weaker by the day

@eddiee7870

27 күн бұрын

@@gbone7581 I'm complaining of the PRICE, NOT the medical examination. Doctors are milking Pensioners as usual. We need help not condemnation SASSA's pension = R1,950.00pm ??? Meat is unaffordable thus we grow weaker by the day

What a nice interview of Hellen Zille by Mike.

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

Thank you for this comment

Helen, why is your camera always so blurry? maybe do a check on it. 🙏

@0761ZoRO

28 күн бұрын

This started after she was outsmarted by the ANC in both the GNU and GPNU; she is fading into oblivion.

@Alex-ze2ii

28 күн бұрын

@@0761ZoROyou talk to much from your shack

@lydiapotgieter7867

27 күн бұрын

You wish...​@@0761ZoRO

@0761ZoRO

27 күн бұрын

​@@Alex-ze2iiI meant to provoke and expose your racism. You didn't disappoint.

@henryrossouw930

27 күн бұрын

Grow up.​@@0761ZoRO

Da got played and should have known better not to trust the ANC.

By going into a coalition with them you gave them back the power to rule even after they lost!

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

ANC got 40% of the vote. No, they didn’t get the 50%+1 they needed for an outright majority, but they were still the party with the most votes. That gave them more bargaining power than anyone else at the negotiating table. They now have the upper hand. I’m not an ANC supporter, however they outmaneuvered the DA and taught them an important lesson.

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

No party won a majority, therefore somebody who "lost" was going to end up as the President and "losing parties" were going to get seats according to deals struck. We have dealing with this for years in the Metros where no party had a majority.

Hi Mike, surely we all know that you can never rely or trust the devil, so the DA should have negotiated on that basis, but clearly the ANC still shouting the odds and remaining in control.

@mikesham3204

28 күн бұрын

As I said in a recent Weekly Update, this will be another case of Cyril winning a few battles but losing the war.

So by hook or by crook, the DA was outplayed

@stevedavidson666

28 күн бұрын

No they were lied to by the usual bunch of ANC crooks. But they have to hang around to show the latter how to manage the country. But then I wouldn't expect someone who says something as stupid as you did to understand. It's called 'politics'.

@0761ZoRO

28 күн бұрын

Yep! Shooo!!! Now they know they are foolish!

@Alex-ze2ii

27 күн бұрын

@@0761ZoROwhy you always commenting here. You can’t see the writing on the wall. ANC is done. Go cry at your tannies joint

@mduduzithabede1999

27 күн бұрын

They were deceived by the organisation of scammers

@stevedavidson666

27 күн бұрын

No they were crooked by the useless ANC.

Anc knew they had no other choice, but they still played it dirty in the end its the way they play, MK, and eff would've eaten the ANC alive

Are we seeing another Piet Retief moment coming

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

Enough with Piet Retief, that was 1838 and the circumstances were very different.

DA made a fatal mistake by rushing to form a government with the ANC, nationally and Provincially. I guess they did not believe that their 21% was huge enough. Hope they learn from this ❤❤

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

Time will tell whether this was a mistake. I think that if the DA, IFP or any other party stands a chance of making a difference in SA, they have to show that they can govern. There comes a time when we all have to step into the ring or shut our mouths.

Sad SABC won't broadcast the game😮

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

Rugby unites South Africans. Shame on you SABC for not broadcasting the match. You missed an important opportunity to unite the nation.

What a legend! 🙌🏾

Zille, step away, they will shaft you in the end!

The DA got played by the ANC. They expected negotiation in good faith and that was a mistake and failure of the negotiating team.

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

Got that right!

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

I don't think that it is fair to blame the negotiating team. You can negotiate the best deal on your new BMW, but when the seller delivers a Toyota Corolla, you can't blame the buyer. Every agreement has a large element of good faith attached. If it didn't, no deal would be consumated.

@ShawnRademeyer

27 күн бұрын

@mikesham3204 Helen is very experienced Mike, and in my view, too much good faith was afforded the ANC, who doesn't have the best track record when it comes to compromise. Trust but verify 😉 Having said that, I don't believe anyone else would have been able to do a better job.

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

@@mikesham3204 When the seller delivers a Toyota you don’t accept it.

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

@@bevturner2258 Yes, you also go to a good consumer journalist so that everyone knows what happened!

The DA had a fantastic opportunity to use their leverage to the fullest extent, they didn't. I'm not convinced that a doomsday coalition is worse than the DA not existing as a party in 2026. South Africa is in a doomsday situation since 94'. So that was absolute fearmongering that many unfortunately fell for. "We cannot go into coalition with a party that is fundamentally the problem" / "We will never go into a coalition with the ANC" - DA 2023. RIP.

I have watched your podcasts predominantly on my phone, but this one I watched on my TV. The picture quality in what I saw in Mike Shame's coverage there was a significant difference in quality whether one chose to view the podcast on a phone as opposed to a TV

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

Thank you for watching the podcast. Which device had the better quality? Obviously when we do an online interview, we are at the mercy of our guests setup. In our studio, the setup is broadcast quality.

@michaelcrichton7763

25 күн бұрын

I find that the picture quality is better when i watch on my phone ​@@mikesham3204

Our very own Iron Lady. When Helen Zille talks....I LISTEN!

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

Well, 21.8% of the voters chose the DA. That’s about 1 in 5 who listen to Helen 😊

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

@@bevturner2258 So Labour just won a "landslide" in the UK with 33.7% of the vote. Politics is more dynamic and nuanced then before. The DA are the kingmaker in this election and the ANC has chosen to betray the agreement. That kind of action always carries unintended consequences.

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

@@mikesham3204 Labour’s “landslide” victory is particularly interesting: Labour 2019 10.3 million votes 32.4% vote share 220 seats Leader resigns Labour 2024 9.6 million votes 33.7% vote share 412 seats Landslide Victory! FPTP…

No matter what happens DA should never come close to the land ministry, MK and EFF must be given those potfolios

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

Well, the PAC has Land Reform & Rural Development. I presume you’re happy with that?

I am concerned that the DA was "tricked" and I do hope that they will not continue to be outmaneuvered by the President. We have seen him in action before when he and his team outsmarted the "team" in the lead up to 1994.

@0761ZoRO

27 күн бұрын

What an honest person you are. It's true Helen was outmanoeuvred. Why do people still believe she is smart? Is she all that the DA has to offer? Well, forget this other matriculant🤣🤣🤣

Yes this was the best under the circumstances. Remember you did not grow either. The ANC had lost a lot , it needed to salvage some pride.

Threshold limits are central to the reality that good governance is largely about administrative stability.

One thing the DA has learned from this closer association with the ANC is that although it is in government with that fraternity it is not in the ANC and is therefore subject to deceit as exemplified right here at the start. But this is in adorable problem. People cannot fairly and reasonably expect miracles. The alternative to this weak and vulnerable alliance is 'too ghastly to contrmplate' and the juggling and tightrope walking required to avert that alternative alliance must be recognized by rational observers who are too quick to criticise from a position that takes little or no account of the formidable difficulties. The blame is not with the DA. It is with the media and ignorant voters and abstainers. The electorate is to blame. Another point is that if the DA were to fight too precipitously and hard on every retrograde racist policy of the ANC and miraculously succeed in overturning them all, the ANC will lose more votes in the next election which will go to abd strengthen the other rotten parties. It has to be said that the majority vote is black and against the elimination of race-based privileges.

The DA backstabbed it's voters and the ANC outsmarted the them😂

@bevturner2258

27 күн бұрын

I think both the ANC and the DA have lost some voters over this coalition. However, If the DA show real improvement in the portfolios they’ve been given, they’ll gain more voters than they lost.

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

I think that it way too soon to say who won or lost. All actions will carry repercussions.

The DA reached their ceiling, they'll never be above 25% such a tragedy. After this GNU period, the DA won't be able to differentiate themselves from the ANC.

@mikesham3204

27 күн бұрын

I think that it will be easier for the DA to differentiate themselves because of the GNU. Voters know the difference between good and bad cabinet ministers. This is why the ANC lost its majority.

@margaretlesoleso

26 күн бұрын

​@@mikesham3204step aside

In what way are Western Cape government hospitals offerring good care for people? Perhaps the standard in other provinces is so low that it makes the WC look good, but there is a long way to go to an efficents and trustworthy state hospital

Thanks Helen for being a mensch.