The War Within Day 1 Alpha News! (Pt. 1)

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Hey guys, The embargo was officially lifted wednesday, and we're now allowed to talk about the war within alpha! this video consists of a bunch of the news that we received wednesday, as well as many of my thoughts and experiences with the alpha so far. It includes gameplay from 2 of the new dungeons, as well as a bunch of new hero talents - hope you enjoy!
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Intro: 0:00
Heroic Week Returns: 0:12
Warbands: 4:16
Delves: 13:45
Dungeons: 26:25
Cinderbrew Meadery Gameplay: 36:44
The Rookery Gameplay: 53:30
New Monk Talent Trees: 1:02:40
New Hero Talents: 1:37:20
Sentinel Hunter: 1:38:29
Sunfury Mage: 1:45:31
Master of Harmony Monk: 1:50:51
Oracle Priest: 1:56:42
Voidweaver Priest: 2:03:43
Soul Harvester Warlock: 2:12:05
Overall Thoughts on Hero Talents: 2:19:35
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  • @AfroKona
    @AfroKona2 ай бұрын

    Another cosmetic they could add with warbands is poses. It would be cool to be able to choose the pose of each of your characters around the campfire. Like your rogue is resting by the fire while your warrior is sharpening her axe and the paladin is praying.

  • @toreole5831

    @toreole5831

    2 ай бұрын

    Oh hell yeah

  • @MrManultra

    @MrManultra

    2 ай бұрын

    literally emotes. I want them ingame, in this screen, everywhere.

  • @evoknz

    @evoknz

    2 ай бұрын

    They'll monetize them no worries, just like backgrounds

  • @shadowdragon8168
    @shadowdragon81682 ай бұрын

    I'm so jealous of mages man, that Sunfury demo at the end looked sick, almost enough to make me want to try mage again.

  • @1shogunate696
    @1shogunate6962 ай бұрын

    I think there should be a reward for delves past 8 but ones not tied to player power like mounts. Gives a way for players to brag without actually having to say anything.

  • @veppy4952

    @veppy4952

    2 ай бұрын

    the elitist casuals would cry, cant have anything in the game anymore

  • @Ryan-xs9px

    @Ryan-xs9px

    2 ай бұрын

    @@veppy4952let them

  • @neruneri

    @neruneri

    Ай бұрын

    @@veppy4952 I don't think that's actually true. Those people tend to like hard solo content. It's when you have to group up that it gets annoying to them.

  • @Henrikpop
    @Henrikpop2 ай бұрын

    Max saying they designed Delves probably without him in mind when they designed a whole gamemode to play while watching streams is insane :D Ima be playing delves all night long while listening to this guy

  • @Charlee4459
    @Charlee44592 ай бұрын

    The sentinel tree perk "Invigorating Pulse" will 100% be influential. It feels so bad when you have to steady shot to get focus back (generates 25 focus If I'm remembering correctly) ... Instead I could just be regening my focus with a rapid fire? 5 every now and then may just straight up remove steady shot from the rotation and that would be bamf.

  • @bubonict9177
    @bubonict91772 ай бұрын

    When we get cinderbrew as a dungeon we are FOR SURE getting Stormstout brewery as well. 100%

  • @jakehr3
    @jakehr32 ай бұрын

    Seems very lame to say "early access" and them knowing for 100% fact that people think of "early access" as an alpha for a game in development that doesn't carry over to live, but instead are using that same phrase to mean that players get a headstart on the live game. It's such a shitty thing to do and super manipulative, to say nothing about the fact that getting the ability to get to max level 3 days before everyone else is obviously going to be an advantage. If it wasn't an advantage, it wouldn't be a product that was sold.

  • @parlangua89
    @parlangua892 ай бұрын

    is warband just for your top 4 you see on loggin or your hole roster of character's?

  • @12fulworld69
    @12fulworld692 ай бұрын

    You could cap only end of dungeon rewards, so you still want to push and get a nice vault but also so doing m+ isn't better than raid for gear. but idk, maybe even that is unnecessary.

  • @mareksimurda5101
    @mareksimurda51012 ай бұрын

    I don't know where did you learn that nobody plays survival? There are weird guys like me who play it and there are a lot of them doing m+. Compared to mm it's played more. Anyways I am really happy about the sentinel talents, they look really nice. Same with monk, it sounds fun and makes me want to play it next expansion. Nice video overall, keep it up!

  • @12fulworld69
    @12fulworld692 ай бұрын

    "casual" content or not, I think low pressure content, solo content, that still can be hard at times, but doesn't punish you, is really good. And also, hopefully 11 is at least so hard you can't one shot it even if ur good.

  • @veppy4952

    @veppy4952

    2 ай бұрын

    cant one shot if you're good will get instantly nerfed due to wowhead andies, the entire thing will be a breeze

  • @ThePolarpop

    @ThePolarpop

    2 ай бұрын

    I mean absolutely what ruins alot of casuals enjoyment isnt difficulty its punishment and the bad feelings that come with it

  • @bradwest4821
    @bradwest48212 ай бұрын

    Imfiredup is going to be a VERY VERY happy raider

  • @TaiyelKynoska
    @TaiyelKynoska2 ай бұрын

    Omg i need a weak aura to make the succulent souls icon look like a cactus.

  • @bullwhiz650
    @bullwhiz6502 ай бұрын

    Bobby starts with B, they are goblins with worker bees, hmmm... without being there as a dev Id say this a pretty good swipe at their boss. Bobby does look like a goblin, like those from Harry Potter quite a bit. Maybe just maybe, the devs were having... fun?

  • @wuuyye5702
    @wuuyye57022 ай бұрын

    What happens if you Zen flight during Dynamic flying?

  • @chadjohnson8527
    @chadjohnson85272 ай бұрын

    Have you seen if they pass up demon hunters with mobility?

  • @Maddawg1984
    @Maddawg19842 ай бұрын

    They should allow crest to be War Band shared cause your Main gets more crest then you need by a certain point of the season let my main feed crest to a alt I'm still earning my crest let me use them how I want.

  • @gampie13
    @gampie132 ай бұрын

    it's tragic how sentinel, with how stack centric it is, still "feels/gives of more of a pet" hero talent tree, than both dark ranger and pack leader combined, just by the sentinel proc... dark ranger sometimes, spawns a shitty dreadstalker, and pack leader might as well be renamed pet auto attack. And is the hero talent tree that BM cant get. dark ranger and sentinel realy should be swaped around on what spec gets it

  • @TheSilverwing999
    @TheSilverwing9992 ай бұрын

    Bit sad that we haven't had a raid walkthrough yet. Guessing it's hard to understand or something

  • @apblolol
    @apblolol2 ай бұрын

    Master of harmony is nutty

  • @PrayGame
    @PrayGame2 ай бұрын

    So what we're saying is ROLL monk for pvp while its hot.

  • @johncarmichael1737
    @johncarmichael17372 ай бұрын

    Me watching max’s videos when I only play warlock and survival hunter 😞

  • @zigziar
    @zigziar2 ай бұрын

    Warbands = gearing your main will be more difficult because people will trade items they don't want less than before warbands? Or will 'war' items be additional drops to normally group tradeable dungeon drops, thinking M+

  • @wilmer8372

    @wilmer8372

    2 ай бұрын

    wont be a problem with how they phrased it

  • @jeremyrogers6655

    @jeremyrogers6655

    2 ай бұрын

    I thought they said it was a vendor you buy the gear from to trade or something

  • @drakedbz

    @drakedbz

    2 ай бұрын

    the warbound gear is not tradeable. You can ONLY send it to your warband. It will drop as personal loot in addition to all the usual loot that drops. It won't affect main gearing at all, just alts.

  • @zigziar

    @zigziar

    2 ай бұрын

    @@drakedbz that sounds OK ish... But... So say in an M+ you get 1 item (how it is now), so in TWW will that now be not specific to your class so you can potentially give to to your WB? If not then would you get an extra WB and personal drop or what?

  • @MrTalicor
    @MrTalicor2 ай бұрын

    Max I was just cooking on something, for a while I have thought the number of guilds that clear mythic each season is too low, obviously challenging content is good, and people want a way to challenge themself within the game, and i don't think Mythic should be doable by everyone but i was thinking of a way that to increase numbers. In ICC after a while, they had a buff called the strength of Wrynn it started as a 5% health increase, 5% healing/absorb increase, and 5% damage increase then increased by 5% every 2 weeks until it capped at 30%. What if blizzard implemented a buff similar to strength of Wrynn, that triggers when the Hall of Fame closes, and follows the same 2 week until a cap pattern from there. Not only would it not impact RTWF or the Hall of fame, but I think this would 1. give more people the confidence to step into mythic later on in the season and 2. Remove the reliance on blizzard to nerf bosses (aside from initial tuning adjustments and bug fixes). Just a cook I had what do you think.

  • @oliverlarsen4856
    @oliverlarsen48562 ай бұрын

    Reporting Blizzard for releasing Alpha without any enhancement or assassination hero talents.

  • @Maddawg1984

    @Maddawg1984

    2 ай бұрын

    2 Rogue, 2 Shaman, 1 Priest, 1 DH hero Trees not released before Alpha 6 total trees

  • @mcsqwigy4138

    @mcsqwigy4138

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah feels bad I wanna see enhance to see if I need to swap off it or not

  • @andrewballard2783

    @andrewballard2783

    2 ай бұрын

    I can't wait for totemic to be either overtuned or worthless.

  • @gruncleiroh5525

    @gruncleiroh5525

    2 ай бұрын

    Shows you that pally and mage and lock and warrior really are the main character. At least we have a raid buff even if it's only good when demon hunters, warriors, and rogues are meta. Love that they also made ret not benefit from it???

  • @Gunpoint1015
    @Gunpoint10152 ай бұрын

    I hate the beginning of expacs where I spend 2-3 weeks being gated by blizzard.

  • @MacGregor3
    @MacGregor32 ай бұрын

    What's the charge? Eating a meeal? A Chinese Succulent Meaaal?

  • @ALC0LITE
    @ALC0LITE2 ай бұрын

    "I'm ignoring survival because no-one plays that spec" :(

  • @dmitriskramkov4799
    @dmitriskramkov47992 ай бұрын

    disc/shadow lookes insane on paper, nerfs coming.

  • @shadycat8898
    @shadycat88982 ай бұрын

    I still think Premonition should just be an empower spell to make it foolproof to determine what you want while also having a clear tradeoff for hold long you hold

  • @TheGrinder_27
    @TheGrinder_272 ай бұрын

    Remmeber guys we have to wait to see the rogue specs, other DH, and shammy specs.. be scared for your classes

  • @omega1231
    @omega12312 ай бұрын

    The only actual thing that the timegated M+ and raids etc. Does is make people who does those things, do things instead that they might not want to and people who doesn't do m+ or raids wouldn't care either way. Sure there is the mental of no FOMO "I don't feel like I have to go get right now" which is nice, but time gating the game because of people's inability to moderate their playing according to their own enjoyment, is really weird. Also, don't get me wrong I know for years, if you wanted to be competitive (or just want to participate in guild raiding) there was a laundry list of shit you had to do to get there, but in Dragonflight we were able to get alt after alt ready within the timegated period. I'm pretty casual but I had 5 characters ready for m+ and raids before they opened up, they have to their credit severely reduced the amount of chores, grinds and other nonsense so at this point you should be able to get atleast a character ready at a speed where we don't have to timegate the entire thing for everyone.

  • @harribarri1141
    @harribarri11412 ай бұрын

    As a hunter main/casual that sentinel tree is boring, hunter has a bad kit and seeing other classes getting more kit stuff in hero talent or interesting passives makes me think sentinal is a dud

  • @gampie13

    @gampie13

    2 ай бұрын

    just remember, hunter is the ugly step child that the devs hate, and wants to forget. Hunter as a class, improves, the more you go back in time at this point... (capping at probably cata, mop or wod. Depending on what spec and gameplay you look at, the class has devolved that badly over expansions due to terrible design that has been held over from other eras and worsened by borrowed power "solutions" that never solved a problem, just shifted it slightly, and expanded it when the borrowed power was gonne)

  • @vareska42
    @vareska422 ай бұрын

    Mage is the main character yo

  • @highgrade9
    @highgrade92 ай бұрын

    Ima sellout i bought that early access quick

  • @stabiloviclegrande9813
    @stabiloviclegrande98132 ай бұрын

    the warband character screen weirdly doesnt look like warcraft at all, it looks extremely generic. hope they'll expand on that and let me chooe places like durotar or smt cool

  • @ic3t3ap3ach
    @ic3t3ap3ach2 ай бұрын

    blizzard hire the monk designer for druids please!!!!!

  • @1shogunate696
    @1shogunate6962 ай бұрын

    I extremely hated mists of Tirna scythe you have to be insane lol.

  • @norwegiantacoeater9115

    @norwegiantacoeater9115

    2 ай бұрын

    Mists definitely had issues, especially on tyrannical. But it’s a three boss dungeon, which alone makes it a good one

  • @1shogunate696

    @1shogunate696

    2 ай бұрын

    @@norwegiantacoeater9115 personally I just hate bosses that have the gimmick of the second one where you have to find the real one before y’all wipe, I hate the morchie fight for the same reason. For some reason my brain shuts down during that mechanic and I end up dying lol.

  • @user-bj8yl4jj8k

    @user-bj8yl4jj8k

    2 ай бұрын

    @@1shogunate696 I mean... sounds like a skill issue. MoTS was the easiest dungeon in SL by far

  • @1shogunate696

    @1shogunate696

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-bj8yl4jj8k sure, it was also the most annoying, I timed all 20s well before the first season ended and the Mists ended up taking the most time to get.

  • @Charlee4459
    @Charlee44592 ай бұрын

    ... lvl 68 twinks about to be a thing?

  • @attinger117
    @attinger1172 ай бұрын

    Lol @ liking sentinel. They should rename it arcane ranger because it has nothing to do with sentinels. Probably one of the most boring hero talents released yet.

  • @DerekGMay
    @DerekGMay2 ай бұрын

    You keep saying “De other side” but this obviously is the wrong dungeon

  • @fwam2k7
    @fwam2k72 ай бұрын

    Fed up with mythic raiders and the race to world first completely screwing gear for soloists. If I’m playing hard and challenging solo content, I see no reason why I shouldn’t be able to be geared to the teeth like a mythic raider is if it’s my preferred way to play. It’s boring being told haha you’re lesser, take these shitty cosmetics and half assed power gains because you don’t have a guild full of degenerates sinking 20+ hours a week into raiding and prep. People want the high level gear because it’s fun. It’s fun to chunk enemies when sudden death procs. Fuck the top ten percent and streamers. Game went shit when they started prioritising that tiny ass fraction of the fan base.

  • @Stratoschalo
    @Stratoschalo2 ай бұрын

    it make a lot of seanse that mitic 0 give heroic tier gear now if the gona pospone mitic plus till mitic week

  • @XtemeStromer
    @XtemeStromer2 ай бұрын

    as someone that works monday-friday having the 3 day early access lets me play the game and level without waitout having to wait 3-4 days after launch

  • @ThatFoxGirl
    @ThatFoxGirl2 ай бұрын

    Obviously I have no context either, but I think it’s a good idea to compare normal leveling dungeons to M+ as a Delve progression metric. Like, imagine hearing about even a +2 as someone who’s only done normal dungeons. While they could still suck, end game max level stuff could feel *very* different.

  • @GodslayingSonicBarbarism
    @GodslayingSonicBarbarism2 ай бұрын

    ALL WE WANT ARE THE HALLS OF ATONEMENT, THANK YOU.

  • @issacmorris60
    @issacmorris602 ай бұрын

    Reputting the monk talents in a video 💀

  • @drakedbz
    @drakedbz2 ай бұрын

    Part of the reason for the 3 day early access is to split players up in the starting experience. It should really help reduce the server slam from the rush of players all logging in at the same time. WuE is terrible, please call it WBoE Also BobBEE Kottick

  • @friday_xo
    @friday_xo2 ай бұрын

    Only reason I would touch TWW, if Sunfury stays as it is or similar, cus after watching some gameplay, that looks mega fun.

  • @eonarose
    @eonarose2 ай бұрын

    I think we’re forgetting how much hate the mage tower got when it came out. I’m partly expecting something similar for endgame high tier delves. I also wish they’d do all of the War Within dungeons for the first season, so they could get the tuning right early on

  • @emansfield2017
    @emansfield20172 ай бұрын

    Kind of weird af to start the alpha without even finishing all of the hero talents. Enhancement has none lmao.

  • @Maddawg1984

    @Maddawg1984

    2 ай бұрын

    6 trees haven't been released 2 Rogue, 2 Shaman, 1 Priest, and 1 DH Tree its dumb as hell

  • @fofolacosa123

    @fofolacosa123

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Maddawg1984 fml as a rogue main, the only tree we got was steaming, boiling shit

  • @nmc400

    @nmc400

    2 ай бұрын

    I bet theyre trying to cook up some sorta totem based hero talents and a weapon enhancing one mixed with a new elemental.

  • @rastaelmo
    @rastaelmo2 ай бұрын

    I love how Final Fantasy 14 had early access and no one said a peep, Blizzard now does thiers and people lose their minds

  • @Funguspower2
    @Funguspower22 ай бұрын

    Early access in a sub based game 😂 how stupid are you guys to play this game

  • @zigziar
    @zigziar2 ай бұрын

    Stop saying 'play the game early'... it is not... it is a pay to play the game when it is realised fee... poorer people will have to wait and play it a few days after it's been released.... or maybe say it is a 'play the game earlier than people who can't afford it' option, but that is misleading... it is more honest to say it is released... pay a fee to play it upon release, or don't and play it late... it is not 'early'.

  • @hybredmoon

    @hybredmoon

    2 ай бұрын

    Nah, you're paying to play early.

  • @Nate0808

    @Nate0808

    2 ай бұрын

    Stop telling strimmers what they can and can't say especially when YOU'RE LITERALLY MAKIN STUFF UP! 😂

  • @zigziar

    @zigziar

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Nate0808 Try thinking, then form an opinion using your thoughts... Try to make sense.

  • @zigziar

    @zigziar

    2 ай бұрын

    @@hybredmoon nah, it's a con... A play on words that they use to suck up some more of your money.

  • @hybredmoon

    @hybredmoon

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zigziar Nah, you're just paying to play early.

  • @jomoelle
    @jomoelle2 ай бұрын

    Delves is a dumb name

  • @hybredmoon
    @hybredmoon2 ай бұрын

    Darn, was hoping combo strikes, aka the worst mastery in the game, would bee gone. Guess WW is still garbo.

  • @szilardenyedi2855
    @szilardenyedi28552 ай бұрын

    Delves feel like a horrible chore. If it's easy then it's pretty bad because it's a weekly simple activity that adds a loot - mandatory for minmaxing. If it's hard it's still pretty bad because it's Torghast and mandatory for minmaxing and people need to sweat through it. People saying it's not mandatory - using an optimal talent build is also not mandatory but then people are handicapping themselves. A better solution would be Delves not having a different row in the Great Vault, but instead adding loot to the M+ / Raid / PvP slot.

  • @dracotoy

    @dracotoy

    2 ай бұрын

    Except it isnt mandatory. The gear will always be worse than m+ gear. If you want high level gear you wont be running it

  • @goosejaw2909

    @goosejaw2909

    2 ай бұрын

    Delves aren't a chore though? Its designed to where if you wanna do it you do it, if not focus your time on something else. Comparing it to Torghast when they said specifically it wouldn't be close to that is just a doomer mindset. Saying its Mandatory is like saying raiding and Mythic+ is mandatory. The people wanting to do everything possible to max their character might feel it to be that way, but 99% of people will just do what they want.

  • @Dontaethefist

    @Dontaethefist

    2 ай бұрын

    Nothing is mandatory unless you get hardstuck if you dont do it.

  • @szilardenyedi2855

    @szilardenyedi2855

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@goosejaw2909 We have already seen this countless times. Let's take one of the most braindead one, titanforging. Even casual people did content way under their item level (e.g. WQ-s, not current raid) hoping that an item would titanforge. If there was a system in place giving an OPTIONAL questline to you that has a chance to increase your dps/healing by 2% for your next raid then guess what would happen: A - It would be optional B - Every raid group from casual to hardcore wouldn't invite players without the buff You guessed it right, it's B. People will do obscure illogical things at the slightest glimmer of hope when it comes to power increase. Saying it's optional won't change the player's mindset.

  • @goosejaw2909

    @goosejaw2909

    2 ай бұрын

    @@szilardenyedi2855 Yeah but this isn't a quest that gives you power, nor is it Titanforging XD I wouldn't even call it a "system" Its just more content for people who do open world stuff, it doesn't reward high level gear so top end peoples don't have to do it. I guarantee you most high end players would just queue for a M+ instead of flying out into the world to find a mini-dungeon that gives them Heroic level gear. Saying its mandatory is braindead.

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