Actual mechanics aside, blood DKs desperately need new animations across the board. Their abilities just looks so incredibly underwhelming & unimpactful.

@ALC0LITE

Ай бұрын

I, for one, don't consider dog chew toys as bone armour

@jaded-harper

Ай бұрын

fr they should just yoink some of diablos necro ones lol

@Frostingale

Ай бұрын

Dk as a whole needs new animations. Look at glacial advance on frost dk. hell, it doesn't even have a visual difference between killing machine proc or regular obliterate when the proc makes it do frost damage

@jaded-harper

Ай бұрын

@@Frostingale true. Chillstreak/glacial advance/remorseless are so fckin weak looking imo

@vaethe_w

Ай бұрын

All dks

Dh capstone: you get 1 extra silence, 1 extra mass grip, 1 extra aoe fear, 1 extra damage sigil and cdr for them each time you use them. Blood dk capstone: +5% deathstrike damage, bad cheat death, some extra blood shield and a suicide aoe skill (maybe not anymore). Lol

@kalasmournrex1470

Ай бұрын

Purgatory is the best cheat death in the game.

@yeye1600

Ай бұрын

You are also including set bonuses as if they were talents. Also Havoc never gets any nice changes, literally ugly sets, nobody cares, it's sad.

@skdeathxlife

Ай бұрын

@@yeye1600 cycle of chains is a talent

I think that a specc that is thematically using the spear, Survival should have kept the extra 3 yards for melee. Doesn't make or break the specc, but would have fit really well.

@ungulatemanalpha

Ай бұрын

the goal seems to be to make melee specs consistent. personally i'd rather give every class and spec the 3 yard extendo arms, but adjusting enemy hitboxes on a more case by case basis probably looks / 'feels' better to blizzard than everyone having extendo arms.

@ShaunRoe

Ай бұрын

Blizzard specifically said that they want to standard all melee ranges, so all the range-increase stuff got pruned.

*Cries in Shaman*

@jamesmorseman3180

Ай бұрын

And hunter

I agree with Max put the damage back into dots !

Shaman earthen brothers untie

the shaman burn right near the beginning was VERY fucking funny

the melee range shit is kinda bad tbh, ret's keeping it is BS, play enhance for 5 mins and you'll see that class needs it

HUGE CLASS CHANGES - check chapters - look for hunter - 6 seconds And that's why I've been playing Mage since BfA

@thehoax9617

Ай бұрын

At least there is a change...Rogue is nowhere to be seen as usual...

@Ripdric

Ай бұрын

​@@thehoax9617 Be quiet rogue! Go back to coin tossing or something! Real classes are talking /s

@WetWillis

Ай бұрын

Rogue got an entire rework for Season 3 what are you talking about lmao ​@thehoax9617

@Thrall966

Ай бұрын

True I used to main feral Druid . But I’m a happy mage main now

@blur3316

Ай бұрын

@@WetWillis no bro u dont get it they have to rework the specs every other patch cmonbruh

Would it be possible to get the stream date the videos come from in the description? Thank you!

Unless you play Mage or Shaman. People pretending they NEVER ran into situations where their HS is on CD and needed it. That's pure cap.

i've been constantly surprised that the human rep bonus lived as long as it did.. :P

good that max mentioned about the ui its srsly needs help if we want new players

As someone who plays every tank but Monk in M+, I am in the “I want all my tanks to have more stops” camp because I like to pug, and I like to be able to carry when my pugs seemingly don’t have their kicks bound.

As Arcane I take Time Anomaly every single time because if I can do dps that is >90% of the "Optimum" while still playing one of the most fun talents we have, then yeah im gonna do it. It might be better for arcane than the other two though, since it can evocate you and give you 4 orb charges at random as well as time warp.

sounds like its gonna be a Shaman vs Max Battle

I get why some Holy Paladins don't like the hybrid caster playstyle but at the same time it's best for the game in general if specs are more varied in playstyle and Mistweaver is already filling the niche of a melee dps that heals by doing their melee rotation and in all honesty Holy Paladin has traditionally be a lot about casting. I'm in favour of having more options and maybe the middle ground is to have a playstyle similar to enhancement but as a healer where your spells are "normal/slow" speed to begin with but some procs or buffs make them instant cast regularly so you can weave them in your melee rotation.

The 2 only dmg i play is aflic warlock with dont look great yet and surival hunter i hope thay make that spec good atleast

the 25% increased healing from Oracle does sound weaker than the others, but as a brewmaster specifically, i'm interested in that 25% increase for August Blessing giving me a 40% HoT from overhealing.

Affliction could have Dots and a debuff mechanic that gives their Dots more of a burst window.

59:20 With this happening for resto I want a overload-totem or something for Ele shaman in the same way Windfury works but for casted spells. Bring back the multistrike effect where you could see the spells fly behind eachother, they dont even need to give resources or procs, just deal damage. Obviously numbers would be different than WF totem, but its time.

I’m so excited to finally be able to play mass grip on bdk AND it applies a silence, it’s huuuuge. Bdk main next expansion guaranteed! Even tho there are improvements still to be made, I think it’s way better than the current tree

'Sad hunter noises' 2:39 here's the part where he talked about the hunter .

The real juice in this video is the fact that Ben will be back... and potentially raiding with Liquid again in TWW???

I am so glad that he is looking at DK and realizing what a horrible spot DK has been in through out Dragonflight, the whole class needs Arthas. The changes to the class tree are really good, still a little room for improvement, but SIGNIFICANTLY better then it was, but frost, unholy, and blood need so much help, even after the major changes they have gotten so far.

It's honestly getting so tiring every time max gets to warlock going "yeah I dunno anything", you'd think after this being the only class he entirely dismisses he'd you know..maybe try one out? That way the warlock segments are more informed?

@MarkElf2204

Ай бұрын

He doesn't know anything but the basics of (BM) hunter too. Half his stream is "what does this button do. Makes it hard to respect his opinion on classes he doesn't know anything about.

I'm just here to cry in holy paladin

"What does Umbilical cord do?" - Maximus

I love the idea of Festering Scythe so much, but I really think it should become an active ability that replaces Festering Strike, not just a proc. This would allow them to remove Vile Contagion as a CD to help reduce Unholy's CD bloat and it would solve almost every issue wounds have in AoE and make it a lot more straight forward to applying wounds in AoE.

I might actually want to play warlock if they made aff lock do the majority of their dmg through dots. I dislike malefic rupture and all the cooldown dumping, If im gonna play aff lock I just wanna dot shit up and watch the world burn.

@RealAndyOriginal

28 күн бұрын

This!

I'm watching this video and I have no idea why because I'm just going to play a Rider of the Apocalypse no matter how nerfed or buffed it gets because that sounds fun and cool

I love seeing pages of ww and mw changes and nothing for brew as a brew main it feels so bad

To be fair, runetap is incredibly good

Hunters screaming and kicking

Waaiiitttt Ben is returning ? Dude is a monster gamer so happy if he does return !

Man these Shaman changes are so good!

With the melee range, the only melee classes in the game that didn't have any increased range on abilities or all attacks were warriors. Also in the patch notes when they removed the talent for rogues acrobatic strikes and druids, the same blue post included "druid: cat form now increases range by 3 yards" this is outside of a talent.

@MrSherhi

Ай бұрын

its still super confusing to me, lets see how it turns out. Extra melee range, atleast for me, felt really good just because of wonky hitboxes. Fix hitboxes and we dont need that.

Shattering bones + reworked bonestorm?!?! heck yea, now you have a giant aoe burst too from consuming 10 boneshield at once in death and decay.

Question can anyone explain why a raid is just x people fighting 1 boss at a time instead of x teams fighting x bosses at a time

@andriel2519

Ай бұрын

Is this rhetorical?

@michaelhoppe6985

Ай бұрын

@@andriel2519 real question

@andriel2519

Ай бұрын

@michaelhoppe6985 could you explain further? Because it sounds like you want a separate game mode where two different guilds compete on boss kills?

@michaelhoppe6985

Ай бұрын

@@andriel2519 Well I was thinking about how raids are currently and came up with a question, Why not make it more exciting by making it so the raid is a race or atleast something that feels more tactical and not just a everyone piles on a boss to kill him. A couple of my ideas 1 make it so you have to hit multiple places at once - like team one fights boss 1 and team 2 fights say another boss in another part of the raid I guess my main point why not make the game more tactical and not just overcoming x mechanic Maybe team 1 could be 8 people to power through while team b distracts another part of the raid so you don’t get wiped but make it so you have choice

@brettcloud8550

Ай бұрын

As cool as this sounds I can't help but imagine all the griefing that would take place lol. But your idea sounds a lot like alliance raids in ff14 ​@@michaelhoppe6985

here i would celebrate hunter buffs, IF WE EVER GET SOME

I hope with the extra help Aug got, I hope they finally add some complexity to the spec. It's a cool theme but the spec is so simple to play

@Wizardscissors183

Ай бұрын

its simple to play un terms of picking up how the class works but I do believe it has the highest gap in terms of floor of ceiling. Easy to pick up, hard to master. But even average aug is very simple so I still understand your point

@AlexanderForsman

Ай бұрын

@@Wizardscissors183 It would be harder if you had to do it on the fly similar to Disc healing in Legion. But planning timings in a raid encounter has very little to do with the class complexity. So no, i would still consider Aug one of the easiest classes to master(i haven't played all specs), where the end result sadly depend almost entirely on your party members. Which makes it boring as you lack any option to improve your output yourself.

Damn i wish they would do more to increase my viability as a bdk in M+, feels kinda crazy they r making us stronger at the thing we r already good at?

As a shaman main, I figured after the enhance buffs we’d not get touched and so there would be nothing… instead I’m 1:45 in and have been roasted 😂

the way unholy can burst festering wounds with epidemic and not needing death and decay, aoe will be poggers

See, the thing is.. in D4 I actively play a build that DOESN'T take any of the paragon capstones. Because, yeah, Druid..

RIP Hunters

1:00:00 weird call, every single hunter spec has either more, or the same amount of 2 point nodes.

@jackhalus6137

Ай бұрын

They had 16 2 point nodes, more than any spec before their rework

SECOND WIND IS BACK BABY

holy pally just literally needs a toned down version of BFA corruption HS spam. like give the mechanic back in a slower form, it felt good as hell to play.

all these class, spec, and talent reworks... to misquote arthas and uther: Arthas: "at least they're acknowledging that hunter exists" Uhter: "to piss on their grave"

ashley

Oracle makes holy and disc crazy 3 minute healers.

Iron Heart isn’t damage, it’s like 1000 mastery.

Why isnt there like a pick 3 system when it comes to racial's? Being able to pick your racial's in a tier like system like Glyphs would be fire.

36:00 Imagine you overheal 5 targets and the remaining 15 get reduced healing and don't even get topped where previously it would top all 20 players. Hmmmmg.

Re: Vicious Agility nerfs 5 seconds HL reduction per Charge too OP? Given that we might still not want to take Bounding Stride, that's still just at most 15-20 second (25 to 33%) CDR, though... 2 seconds off each, and we're talking a mere 6 to 8 seconds' CDR. That isn't remotely going to compete with the snare removal and lingering sprint of its competition. (With Bounding Stride, for context, it was at most 10-15s --or, 22% to 33%-- on Heroic Leap. Still far from "way too insane." Also not sure why we just have an even more generic and obligatory 2-point talent in the class tree now, given that Crushing Force now affects MS instead of Slam. Battlelord and Seismic Reverberation changes look great, though. Can have stronger Overpowers without feeling like an Overpower-spam-bot, and/or more Overpowers without that being so large a portion of overall damage, and Cleave no longer wastes Seismic.

They are reworking the classes that have had their hands held through numerous expensions + seasons and dont touch any of the classes that actually need something done with them lol

Devs refusing to baseline cataclysm and RoF for destro is just wild to me

That aug change is exactly what they need to do. It's unbalanceable otherwise and spreadsheet bs isn't fun. external buffs being swappable between 20 people is never going to be fun and always going to be OP.

all hail the bone build

First time I've ever heard of the word feelycrafty

I am one class ANDY - and i play DK since Pandaria. So...for me this is great news. Felt terrible the last couple of expansions.

Lmao love the truth bombs dropped about class discords. The VDH discord people with power are actual freaks, Yoda was doing really high keys without spirit bomb and the discord nerds had absolute meltdowns writing essays any time someone brought it up in discord on how it offers less HPS and shit on people for even thinking it would be good, like the meme where the dude has all his veins bulging out of his head and neck. Actually hilarious how mad they got any time someone used a build that they didn't put in their wowhead/icyveins guides.

As far as mages having double lust scrapped, I still don't know why they didn't just make the personal lust a second button.

Thank you for the wowhead link in descryption max.

You have me so hyped on WW. I've already told my guild I'm swapping.

This man LITERALLY said “Ele Shamans get fucked” sad day. Everyone wants a resto shaman not a caster class anymore. Shaman class / Fantasy is like 3 wildly different specs and whoever is running the ship only 2/3 specs are ever right each expansion. Just hurts learning restó, then melee, then caster, now back to healing again for WW apparently

The changes to Bone Storm are going to make Dancing Rune Weapon OP as fuck if Bone Storm triggers Insatiable Blade, between bone storm and tombstone, you will be able to knock off 1 minute and 15 seconds off the CD IMMEDIATELY. Depending on what content you are doing, you will be able to get DRW down to a sub 30 second CD.

VDH has some annoying talents. You have to take lower cd on throw glaive to get spirit bomb. Honestly much more annoying than 5% extra damage for standing in d&d.

They need to FIRE the DEV FROM AFF..Like yesterday. I don't mind the Rapture playstyle..but I tried Cata Aff...and man thats soo much more fun goddamnit

why ppl hating on rune tap?

Help me - Shaman

Human mages are loving the new racial, it completes their build.

Completely disagree on Ret they having 25yards is a spit on the face on other classes. The justification of not adding features on classes like mobility on locks, or defensives on Hunters, and so on, is that they can't have everything. Ret have everything. Is basically a Immortal Beast Mastery that bursts more than a hunter, brez faster than locks, a Ice Block that you can attack and move. As someone that love and play ret, for the health of the game, some sort of hard nerf needs to happen.

As Blood main im sad at Blood ''rework'' still to many dead talents. Hope somebody from blizz will watch your and dorki's videos

@justizia1235

Ай бұрын

agreed. maybe PoddyC can invite Mandl as a guest to talk about BDK and what in the spec still needs real changes

I don't think blizzard is capable of tweaking all specs among all classes due to what players' experiences over past several years. if they don't have enough manpower/brain storms to make a spec work, I suggest they could temporarily delete this spec and spend more time to less number of specs but make them better. better and less specs > many boring specs.

Cool now they just need to remove the whole "kill command increases the dmg of kill command" hero talent crap from hunters and give them something entirely new

I stopped playing Hpal when they forced us to cast

Aug evokers will still do breath of eons on cooldown because players do not understand Aug DPS and if we don't go HAM 100% of the time we get kicked so sorry but not sorry about your cooldowns, catch you on the comeback.

Good luck in the next RTWF without WF Totem

FLuffy chicken wing

Man Blizz just said fuck you to hunters. This is getting ridiculous

what is a rogue? Hmm XD

Dks are eating im so excited to be a DK main

Bear druids apparently don't exist

@MarkElf2204

Ай бұрын

druid got some changes early on like fluid form and a complete S2 rework after Blizzard realize their intern did a terrible job on bear. Y'all already got plenty of utility and DR CDs. There's not much more bear needs IMO as a bear alt player.

thats actually a huge nerf to survival hunter, im so upset

Humans are getting a shit racial. Vulpera can park anywhere and use it as a hearth. Its a stepdown lol. The rep perk is the only thing worthwhile. I get the annoyance of hearth cd, but its kind of ass. Its a lesser version of vulpers, it should be a hearth to SW and your chosen hearth. Something like that

Everyone waiting for the shaman rework....maybe for last titan, hopium

@ironsideeve2955

Ай бұрын

Maybe it will be in the next IP

Human racial is that they look the best on everything and it’s the best racial in the game.

Rubber Fish Head.

Hope to god feral Druid gets looked at, it’s just so not fun to play

As u said urself u dont know much about bdk :D u gotta bring one the tank boys in for a chat

You cant be poppin a million Wunes Oh Wounds, bad choice for a Runes class 😂😂

Idk how many times I have to read some sh"t about a mage getting buffed or nerfed or who cares every damn month of this game for years lmao its baffling

caster hpal is legit 2008 gameplay. Melee paladin is mordern wow gameplay

@Dontaethefist

Ай бұрын

Spamming heals and nothing else because you're tank had no self healing was classic gameplay as well. Tanks were tanky but needed heals, think that changed with Blood DK onwards. Kinda outdated but arguably as it should be.

rouge should have its worst spec dps wise add some mild support elements, like crit multiplied debuff on target, or soemthing like that, 2% crit chance and 2% crit damage for example so they get a raid spot.

How down bad is the warrior class? When your youtuber doesnt even read the update notes for it. Blizzard had failed warrior community time and time again

A player has 3 Hearths, Garrison, Dalaran and normal, 2 get you quicky to the home city and 1 to anywhere you want to go, this racial is worthless.

Rune tap and blood tap should just be baseline abilities at this point and make new talents for those spots.

17:41 Shadow Priest has entered the chat.