One thing that wasn't mentioned is weight distribution. The Warhawk has all the weight in the head itself, which makes it less manueverable when swinging but it also gives leverage to your strength, that's why it strikes so hard. It also causes it to spin a lot easier and with less effort when throwing. Full tang tomahawks are great for durability, but it always comes with trade offs :)

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

👍👍 well said

@danhaywood5696

Жыл бұрын

Yeah designing proper balance in full tangs is important for power and sticking when throwing. Your absolutely right about it being easier to throw a head weighted hawk. I was thinking how I could add a heavy short bolt and washer and nut through the bit of my Ned Foss Multifunctional Pack Hatchet, which is full tang, only 10.1 inches long and 14.1 ounces. Its fun to throw, and can carry it EDC which I do. Would be a lot more fun to throw if I had more success sticking it. It's actually a really great lightweight spike hawk multitool. Good for carving and fast for fighting.

Great breakdown thank you.

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend 🙂

Great idea bringing Lucas along for this review. It's always great to get fresh perspectives from different skill levels. However the war hawk still reigns Supreme in my book 🙌

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Yesir!💯 I agree

This was very helpful! Could you please make a video comparing the warhawk vs trenchhawk?

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I have thought about picking up the trench and if I do, most definitely 🙂👍 thanks so much!

The trail hawk looks like the edge profile could be thinned down a bit for throwing. Awesome video!

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate it greatly bro! Thanks for watching 🙂

I’ve gotta stop watching your review videos or I’m going to end up buying too many blades 😂

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Love it 😂👊 thanks my friend

Fantastic!!! First and foremost great father/son video! Those hawks are both fantastic!

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother! Lucas would definitely be my son if I had one. He’s actually the son of a good friend of mine. I do a lot of mentoring with him. He’s most definitely the son I never had haha. God bless you brother🙂👊

@LegionTacticoolCutlery

2 жыл бұрын

@@411Outdoors Its still was a pleasure to watch! You guys had fun!

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegionTacticoolCutlery thanks bro! I believe the world needs more father figures for sure.

Another great video! Thanks! I’m stuck choosing between the Estwing Tomahawk and Cold Steel Recon Hawk, both your videos on them were informative. For all around utility, which one do you and others prefer? Thanks!

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I would absolutely get the recon hawk my friend. I’m going to have to grind Estwing down some more. The blade is just too fat. It looks really cool and you can really tear some stuff up with it as far as demolition is concerned but the recon far surpasses in my humble opinion

@kHRIStu4

2 жыл бұрын

@@411Outdoors thanks for your reply! Yep, you mentioned the thickness of the Estwing - that was something I took into consideration. Keep the videos coming, I enjoy them!

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

@@kHRIStu4 🙂💯👍 thank you!

Excellent video, been training with two trainer trench hawk, smashing up punk logs, (lots of fun but broke the spikes in both). AS a non lethal, baton or Kali stick type of dual weild type of weapon they are absolutely great fun and powerful as well as safe and I imagine less likely to get you arrested! As a dual wield you really feel the benefit of the off hand parry/ block/hook and the main hand strike.

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome info there! I want to get one of those trainers

@doejon9424

Жыл бұрын

Kali Sticks haha! You've been hitting Call of Duty pretty hard.. they are called "Escrima Sticks". They are Filipino

Thank you for commenting that the Recon is full-tang! Excellent head-to-head comparison!!

@411Outdoors

Жыл бұрын

Thanks bro!

If only the war hawk, wouldnt have that handle obstruct the blade, it would be perfect.

@411Outdoors

Жыл бұрын

Very true. In the end the handle won’t hold up

Trench Hawk for me ! I refuse to buy the Recon Hawk due to the Chinese Manufacturing. However the Trench Hawk & War Hawk are Taiwanese Manufactured, so that's fine. You should do a Trench Hawk vs. War Hawk video. I think you'd be surprised how much you did the Trench Hawk! I prefer it over my War Hawk! Nive video by the way

@411Outdoors

Жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend! I would really like to do that video for sure. May have to put that on the line up 🙂👍

I have Recon Hawk its full tang and very sharp its my favorit its made from good steel. Thank you Cold Steel.

Have the Trench Hawk myself and always wondering if there is a way to make a lightweight, but solid pipe handle for it. Thanks for the match up!

@411Outdoors

Жыл бұрын

Anytime!🙂

@danbrookes3942

Жыл бұрын

Aluminum would be an option, ideally more rectangular than round. A round pipe would tend to want to twist in the hand.

I wanted the Cold Steel Trail Boss and Axe Gang Hatchet. Eventually I bought both; first the Trail Boss, then the Axe Gang Hatchet. No need in deciding! If it is Cold Steel, you really can't go wrong with buying what you want!!

Good fair review. ❤ I love Cold Steel.

The handle construction of the war hawk prevents it from being able split unfortunately because if it buries too deep it will impact the target. This is a major issue for breaching since ultimately it will brake upon too many hits too the handle. For that reason mine has been retired to a fun thrower.

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

It really does throw like a boss👍👍

@donnyholman1547

2 жыл бұрын

Wow.

Hi, just a quick question here: which one of these 2 you would choose to harvest hanging coconuts from a tree without climbing it and then open these? The sharp point from the war looks like the real deal to penetrate the coconut and bring it down. However i like the juice from a coconut - help me out with your knowledge :)

@411Outdoors

3 ай бұрын

Prob the Recon being full tang

@yvesdemuer6843

3 ай бұрын

@@411Outdoors thanks for the opinion. Full tang is more solid than the other and will do the job too. Aiming and sticking might be the practice point here. Let's have some fun ;) thanks for your nice videos!

@yvesdemuer6843

3 ай бұрын

@@411Outdoors don't know if you know about the weeping heart from cold steel? The blade is thinner than the recon. Love to hear from u :)

Okay I stopped the video about Midway and as usual your observations are logical and honest as you compare these two tomahawks, but like machetes these days we have many hybrids and variations that you can find thicker or thinner blades and various grinds. To me most notably is the fact that they are making accident tomahawks that are really thin which to me don't seem but that's me thinking of older tools and weapons that maybe had to be thicker to be durable. Any other thing that I think about it is the fact that now we see machetes and tomahawks and other implements as both weapons and tools so some are both and some lean one way or the other

Here's my take. I use a camp axes for chopping wood. I'm not really an axe or tomahawk thrower. From my point of view, a tomahawk should first and foremost, be a self defense weapon. From what I've seen, the Recon "Demko" Hawk is a better self defense weapon. It might be good to have by your bed, if you can't get to your firearm fast enough. The War Hawk is more of a chopping hawk, and will do more damage if you manage to hit an attacker. If you want a self defense tomahawk that you can take camping, choose the War Hawk. If you want a tomahawk purely for defensive purposes, i would go with the Recon Hawk. I would like to see the Trench Hawk compared to these two.

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@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend 🙂

Thank you for the detail of these two tomahawks. I am a fan of Cold Steel so this is such a close battle. The handle replacement on the Warhawk is a concern for me. I own the Recon Hawk and like the build quality blade shape. I don’t own the Warhawk but I would have to say I would still lean toward the Cold Steel Recon Hawk, based on weight, full tang and speed of this hawk.

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Well said! It’s hard to compete with the full tang feature for sure

@XenonLxx

2 жыл бұрын

It's not exactly hard to make a replacement handle for a trench/warhawk yourself, but currently the replacement handles are available on cold steel's main website. They're cheap so get like four and you're all set. I also recommend checking the bolts if they are thight everytime you're done using the hawk, if the head wobbles in the handle, the handle itself will get much more shock from impact when throwing. They're amazing axes for going into the woods or for bushcrafting, when you want to save weight. You cannot baton or split with them, but you always carry a knife with you into the woods anyway so get a thicker knife and baton with that... it'll still weigh a lot less than if you carried a hatchet.

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

@@XenonLxx I always appreciate you insight on tomahawks. This is one of the reasons I cover a lot of different things on my channel. It allows me to connect with individuals across the outdoors community. Your tomahawk knowledge has really stood out my friend 🙂

@XenonLxx

2 жыл бұрын

@@411Outdoors much apreciated as well. Hard to find a channel that actually uses their gear long term, instead of just trying to sell it in a video and then moving on ;)

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

@@XenonLxx that’s an excellent point to remember 🙂👍

A longer handle is easier to block and parry in coming attacks and has better reach for sweeping a leg ,foot or crotch . Also the handle is incredibly strong your probably not gonna break it . What I really like is the traditional hawk shape, they were made this way for a reason

@411Outdoors

Жыл бұрын

💯👍

411 outdoors or 4:11 outdoors? What’s the book?

@411Outdoors

Жыл бұрын

I changed it to 411outdoors because you can’t add special characters in your business name LLC. It has kind of a double meaning anyway. 411 translates to information, but the book is first Thessalonians 4:11

So many good hawks! The full tang does it for me. The War Hawk seems so sweet though. 🤦🏾‍♂️

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

The recon hawk is most definitely very well rounded. If you’re worried about the handle breaking the recon hawk is a dead ringer for sure. But the Warhawk throws and chops better

Cool

Great partner ya got 🏆 proud Dad ❗

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

He’s actually just a good young buddy 🙂👍

That pine your chopping appears to be full of Fat Wood.

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that tree is pretty much a goner.

I want both

reshape that recon hawk edge to make it about the same shape as the war hawk...i bet itll stick much better

Worth mentioning these aren't actually tomahawks. They're boarding axe heads. Tomahawks were for wood and game, almost never combat until the colonists used them as a last ditch weapon. They were never thrown in combat. Boarding axes were fire rescue and rigging tools that were also used in naval warfare but again never thrown.

@411Outdoors

Ай бұрын

I definitely don’t have any proof of them being thrown. Wouldn’t recommend anyone throw their weapon but if they did, would be devastating. Would throw my only weapon though

Well done sir. Been a cold steel customer since 1986. Recon hawk is in my bug out bag. But the war hawk is awesome.

@411Outdoors

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Taylor I appreciate that! Yes indeed good hawks 🙂👍

Well, even though I prefer the Recon Hawk for self defense, it's made in China. The War Hawk is made in Taiwan. I believe the Trench Hawk is as well. I think I have to go with a tomahawk from a country that's a US ally.

I would always prefer full tane

war hawk if I had to pick one 🏆

Do you think they would ever make the Warhawk with a full- Tang handle

@411Outdoors

Ай бұрын

I really wish they would. It is such a mean hawk

👍

If a bear was changing you, which would you rather have in hand?

@411Outdoors

8 ай бұрын

Prob that Recon just being full tang

@johnnyeas1431

8 ай бұрын

@@411Outdoors Copy that. Thanks for the response. Nice review.

@FactFinderGeneral

Ай бұрын

Neither, both are useless if you're on your back 🤙🏻 Throwing them wouldn't do anything to a large bear.

Winner: Trench Hawk (In my opinion)

The warhawk is about to have another buyer

@411Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Getcha one!

All partial tangs are crap. Waste of money. Hundred percent handle's break within days if throwing them. The wood handled traditional tomahawks are a handle hassle as well. I've tried various ways to protect and strengthen handles, secure the bit, yet nothing has worked long enough. I will never purchase a partial tang again, or a traditional tapered hickory handle tomahawk again. Good wall hangers for one or two handed emergency home defense. I wont purchase anymore though, because now I collection of actually usable full tang tomahawk hatchets. Got Ned Foss Multifunctional Pack Hatchet which I EDC and throw and carve with. Modified the stock leather sheath to wear as a quick draw belt dangler. I got a CRKT Jenny Wren, which is a blast to throw from various ranges, and now Ive ordered a Browning Shock N Awe, which is on the way. My Cold Steel Spike Hawk and CRKT Woods Chogan especially, are fun to throw because weight, and the Chogan makes a powerfully useful camp axe as well, but they break handles, come loose constantly, and are lond and heavy to handle. The bits are thick for bushcrafting tender feather sticks or carving. I'm done with all but the full tang's now. I only purchase them if they're designed and implemented well, along with a usable sheath. The importance of a quality and usable sheath for each tomahawk, hatchet, or fixed knife cannot be over estimated. They ain't no good if you cant carry and easily quickly draw and use them. Helps if they're easy to resheath as well. At least the partial tang's are usable new. The tapered hickory handled hawks are never even close to fit, and sheath's must be ordered separately. It's no brainer, fixed tang only. I want longer heavier one than my Browning SNA, Ill purchase a Browning Shock N Awesome, and or a CRKT Kangee, both full tang, both awesome design's and powerfully useful.

@411Outdoors

Жыл бұрын

Very well said and I have to agree. I love my browning. I have not been able to get the larger size though. I can’t really find it. I like classic style tomahawks but they just can’t take a whole lot of damage