Hmmmm. Concerning trend in the comments. First, this is not an ad. This is a loan unit, sent from IFI. Neither Drop nor IFI is paying me. Nor asking me to say anything (except for the disclaimer about the pre-production status). I am however, part of Drop and Amazons Affiliate Programs, as disclosed in the description of every video. Second, if the video feels different and scripted... It is. I am trying a new filming style of video, using longer focal length and moving locations more often (always trying to better the content on the channel). - The scripting helps me make more jokes, and keep on track (especially when changing from location to location) with topics and information I might otherwise forget. However, my implementation of this is not the best, as it's one of the first times doing it. And, I see how it could seem more "ad-ish", though, not the intended feeling, I will make corrections to try to avoid it in the future. To address some specific questions I saw in the comments that I did not cover in this video specifically. This over 789? - For raw sound quality/power, no reason. Other reasons could be size, looks, EQ adjustments (if you don't/Cannot run EQ). I did not say it was better. I just said it outputs about the same power at 300 ohms specifically. So if you have a 6xx, the choice between the amps comes down to you desired features. This or Asgard? Depends. Asgard will drive more power demanding headphones, but will not be so good with high efficiency headphones, like IEMS. So, if you have really hard stuff, get Asgard or 789. Those will be the most versatile for more headphones. Using this Amp on the 58X - Sure! Sounds great, however, generally speaking, the 58X doesn't really need an amp in the same way that the 6XX does. So, to clarify my poorly constructed thoughts here - The Amp, is NOT the best on the market at this price (overall). It MIGHT be the best amp at the price for the 6XX exclusively, depending on your desired features.(If you only want single ended, THX or Asgard are better). The DAC, like I said in the video - Not worth it. (unless you REALLY want the stack). Even though it performs as it should. - J

@dillacorn_linux

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I questioning the review in some areas as well actually and while watching the review. (Before reading comments) But as you said you're trying a different format to your video making which I'm happy you're still interested in doing. At one or two points in the video I questioned if I was even listening to a Joshua Velour video because it felt so different.. kind of off turning tbh. This alleviates all my worries about the video. Thanks Josh. I know it's kind of a pain to disclose that the video is not a paid ad from ifi.. but truthfully I think all this could be avoided if there was some sort of text or voice over disclosure at the beginning of the video to inform users that it's not a paid advert. Still keeping my 789 and Ananda.

@SeanSisco

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the clarification and look forward to seeing your content progression!

@danielp121

3 жыл бұрын

Vid feels like an ad for me. But still a good thing that you try other style of reviewing a product. This feels relaxed/soothing and not that engaging much compared to other video. Still a good review tho 🙂👍🏿

@AJL713

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Joshua, I appreciate the extra effort and care you put into your videos. I do wish you would have gotten into detail about the sound signature of the amp especially with the 6xx. Also, I was curious about what that 3D button does. PS. Could you do a video on MQA. I think this stack is going to be how a lot of people get exposed to it.

@felipelarios7134

3 жыл бұрын

You do amazing work, Josh. Thank you for the video and review.

I feel like products like this are marketing 101: A cash in on all of the current and future 6XX owners, since it's the most popular headphone on Drop.

@cv6473

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct. Bingo. That's the problem with youtubers no honest actual reviewers just influencers. They use certain wording to come off as being honest and so forth but it's just bunch of bull shit. The only true review i have found in this area of nich is this guy kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmmGx4-losSXmLA.html. Actually goes into debth or the amp/dac how they actually sound different between other models and older models versions and son.

@MrThephonypope

2 жыл бұрын

​@@cv6473 "The only honest guy I could find is this person who agrees with me completely and is correctly performative in his cynicism" If this video you've linked is the only review you've found where people compare this to other dacs or amps you 100% must not have looked very hard.

@GeorgeWPush

Жыл бұрын

is it worth $300 (for just the amp alone)?

Bro, the resolution of your videos is awesome, your production is extremely satisfying

This was so useful. I am about to spend serious coin on headphones and a suitable amp, but as it's my first venture into this area I'm grateful for any advice. Thanks, Josh, been watching for a while, will continue to do so.

How much better is it compared to the ifi zen dac, I understand that it is specially made for the HD6XX but is it as good as the price difference? Would there be a difference adding just the amp to the ifi zen dac, I can't understand the pricing.

You do the best gear reviews. Hands down.

Good review and much needed preview.

Hey josh i really really enjoy your reviews and i watch all of them and i noticed a difference in your style in this video it felt like it was more scripted and stuff i personally think the previous style was more engaging and enjoyable

@thelelandsoh

3 жыл бұрын

Feels a bit DMS-ish. Lol

@JoshuaValour

3 жыл бұрын

I posted this in the pinned comment, but I wanted to reply directly. "Hmmmm. Concerning trend in the comments. First, this is not an ad. This is a loan unit, sent from IFI. Neither Drop nor IFI is paying me. Nor asking me to say anything (except for the disclaimer about the pre-production status). I am however, part of Drop and Amazons Affiliate Programs, as disclosed in the description of every video. Second, if the video feels different and scripted... It is. I am trying a new filming style of video, using longer focal length and moving locations more often (always trying to better the content on the channel). - The scripting helps me make more jokes, and keep on track (especially when changing from location to location) with topics and information I might otherwise forget. However, my implementation of this is not the best, as it's one of the first times doing it. And, I see how it could seem more "ad-ish", though, not the intended feeling, I will make corrections to try to avoid it in the future. To address some specific questions I saw in the comments that I did not cover in this video specifically. This over 789? - For raw sound quality/power, no reason. Other reasons could be size, looks, EQ adjustments (if you don't/Cannot run EQ). I did not say it was better. I just said it outputs about the same power at 300 ohms specifically. So if you have a 6xx, the choice between the amps comes down to you desired features. This or Asgard? Depends. Asgard will drive more power demanding headphones, but will not be so good with high efficiency headphones, like IEMS. So, if you have really hard stuff, get Asgard or 789. Those will be the most versatile for more headphones. Using this Amp on the 58X - Sure! Sounds great, however, generally speaking, the 58X doesn't really need an amp in the same way that the 6XX does. So, to clarify my poorly constructed thoughts here - The Amp, is NOT the best on the market at this price (overall). It MIGHT be the best amp at the price for the 6XX exclusively, depending on your desired features.(If you only want single ended, THX or Asgard are better). The DAC, like I said in the video - Not worth it. (unless you REALLY want the stack). Even though it performs as it should. - J "

@ariakowsarian9057

3 жыл бұрын

How dare you insult the baddool agha parsa? How dare you

@ariakowsarian9057

3 жыл бұрын

Agha valor man az shoma ozrkhahi mikonam parsa gi bakherde shoma bebakhsh

For $500 there is not a great value, maybe $350 for the combo?

@larryeckerdt9750

3 жыл бұрын

$350 got me a Schiit Modi, Magni, Loki stack. More dac inputs, more power, eq rather than one button. Just sayin’...

@cv6473

2 жыл бұрын

@@larryeckerdt9750 You are correct. Bingo. That's the problem with youtubers no honest actual reviewers just influencers. They use certain wording to come off as being honest and so forth but it's just bunch of bull shit. The only true review i have found in this area of nich is this guy kzread.info/dash/bejne/fmmGx4-losSXmLA.html. Actually goes into debth or the amp/dac how they actually sound different between other models and older models versions and son.

@MrThephonypope

2 жыл бұрын

@@cv6473 Ahh yet another case of the internet denizen yelling shill. You're wise to all this internet baloney, truly a cut above the rest in intelligence I wager, all your friends and colleagues must respect you very much Fact of the matter is that even if someone were to be able and willing to EQ these (which is far from everyone who owns a 6xx), and was able to tune them just as well or better than what iFi has done, there is still a real use case where these can be implemented in scenarios where you are connecting directly to an analog source like a phono amp from a turntable where otherwise implementing EQ wouldn't be practical or advisable

I have the regular Zen Dac and I have found it to sound quite terrific!

I TRULY TRULY DROOLING OVER THE SOUND QUALITY OF THE RECORDING HERE. MAYBE THE BEST I EVER HEARD. AND JOSHUA'S VOICE.!!! AW E S O M E !!!😍😍😍

Interesting if one is on a tight budget. After much reading, I became fascinated by the scaling capacity of the HD6XX, an aspect that is widely discussed by reviewers who can compare different amplifiers. These headphones have a high performance ceiling, so given top-flight amplification, how good would they sound? For that reason, I eventually bought the SPL Phonitor se and the results are fantastic. At this level, there is no need to bother with possible future upgrades. I can concentrate on the music only: it is ideal for me.

Whispery. I know a lot of work goes into your videos and I appreciate it.

Can u Review Hedd Headphones and amp in ur preference since It's a new Technology. I understand things the way u explain. Thankyou.

It looks nice but I doubt it would be worth upgrading from a liquid spark and Topping d-10

Great, so how did the amp and dac sound? That is just as important as features.

Hey, mind doing a review of the Xduoo XD-05 Plus DAC/AMP? Would love to hear your take on this particular piece. Always appreciate your insights.

[Drop loyalty intensifies]

@RhubarbSenpai

3 жыл бұрын

"I cast Retune Driver on the Beyer Dynamics!" "Okay, roll to determine sale price"

@JoshuaValour

3 жыл бұрын

I posted this in the pinned comment, but I wanted to reply directly. "Hmmmm. Concerning trend in the comments. First, this is not an ad. This is a loan unit, sent from IFI. Neither Drop nor IFI is paying me. Nor asking me to say anything (except for the disclaimer about the pre-production status). I am however, part of Drop and Amazons Affiliate Programs, as disclosed in the description of every video. Second, if the video feels different and scripted... It is. I am trying a new filming style of video, using longer focal length and moving locations more often (always trying to better the content on the channel). - The scripting helps me make more jokes, and keep on track (especially when changing from location to location) with topics and information I might otherwise forget. However, my implementation of this is not the best, as it's one of the first times doing it. And, I see how it could seem more "ad-ish", though, not the intended feeling, I will make corrections to try to avoid it in the future. To address some specific questions I saw in the comments that I did not cover in this video specifically. This over 789? - For raw sound quality/power, no reason. Other reasons could be size, looks, EQ adjustments (if you don't/Cannot run EQ). I did not say it was better. I just said it outputs about the same power at 300 ohms specifically. So if you have a 6xx, the choice between the amps comes down to you desired features. This or Asgard? Depends. Asgard will drive more power demanding headphones, but will not be so good with high efficiency headphones, like IEMS. So, if you have really hard stuff, get Asgard or 789. Those will be the most versatile for more headphones. Using this Amp on the 58X - Sure! Sounds great, however, generally speaking, the 58X doesn't really need an amp in the same way that the 6XX does. So, to clarify my poorly constructed thoughts here - The Amp, is NOT the best on the market at this price (overall). It MIGHT be the best amp at the price for the 6XX exclusively, depending on your desired features.(If you only want single ended, THX or Asgard are better). The DAC, like I said in the video - Not worth it. (unless you REALLY want the stack). Even though it performs as it should. - J "

No comparisons between 6XX with this setup vs other headphones, of the lack of other headphones in general for the sake of comparison makes this an awkward ad video. But regardless it's a good video, it has your trademark quality.

Great review, I actually was able to pick up the Signature stack for $170 each on ebay costing $340 which I find more reasonable. already owning the regular IFI Zen Can and Dac stack, I was able to compare the sound difference. After going back and forth with both stacks, I must say the Signature Can does sound much better then the regular Can. I can hear the sound is fuller and brighter on the Signature stack and the bass is also more pronounced. I needed to have bass boost on all the time on the original Zen Can, to get what is the normal sound of the Signature Can, which offered a richer fuller sound. I actually shipped back the normal IFI Zen Can/Amp back.

@leimingtu7160

11 ай бұрын

bought the bundle 180 dollar second hand, what a deal

I've ordered the IFI DAC Sig to hook up to my HI Fi set up, I've also ordered a 4.4MM to XLR, quite a expensive cable so the set up will be USB from my Apple Mini Audirvana software to the DAC output balanced to my Crown power amp onto my Dali speakers, should sound very good.

Would you recommend for around the same price then maybe a schitt dac or would this make a serious fidderence to its tuning for the Senn 6xx or is that entirely in the Amp?

Hart audio cables -balanced cable for 6xx and adapter pack with all connections you could want. Once buy adapter kit can just buy cords for particular headphone and switch out according to needs. Great cheap option for great cable. Very reaponsive customer support.

After factoring the cost of adapters and the like, might as well get the Topping Dx7 Pro, even has bluetooth.

How about just forgetting the DAC and just using single-ended on the amp instead of balanced?

I like to see a behind the scenes video if possible. Thanks for the great content.

Wonder how it sounds with the LCD-2 since it was hyped as "650 X2"

Why this instead of a 789, sound differences? I'm not sure this makes sense given the price point, and that the 789 exists for essentially the same price. Maybe at 129 like the zen? At least under 200... Idk maybe it sounds better, but you didn't really say much about the sound here?

@JoshuaValour

3 жыл бұрын

I posted this in the pinned comment, but I wanted to reply directly. "Hmmmm. Concerning trend in the comments. First, this is not an ad. This is a loan unit, sent from IFI. Neither Drop nor IFI is paying me. Nor asking me to say anything (except for the disclaimer about the pre-production status). I am however, part of Drop and Amazons Affiliate Programs, as disclosed in the description of every video. Second, if the video feels different and scripted... It is. I am trying a new filming style of video, using longer focal length and moving locations more often (always trying to better the content on the channel). - The scripting helps me make more jokes, and keep on track (especially when changing from location to location) with topics and information I might otherwise forget. However, my implementation of this is not the best, as it's one of the first times doing it. And, I see how it could seem more "ad-ish", though, not the intended feeling, I will make corrections to try to avoid it in the future. To address some specific questions I saw in the comments that I did not cover in this video specifically. This over 789? - For raw sound quality/power, no reason. Other reasons could be size, looks, EQ adjustments (if you don't/Cannot run EQ). I did not say it was better. I just said it outputs about the same power at 300 ohms specifically. So if you have a 6xx, the choice between the amps comes down to you desired features. This or Asgard? Depends. Asgard will drive more power demanding headphones, but will not be so good with high efficiency headphones, like IEMS. So, if you have really hard stuff, get Asgard or 789. Those will be the most versatile for more headphones. Using this Amp on the 58X - Sure! Sounds great, however, generally speaking, the 58X doesn't really need an amp in the same way that the 6XX does. So, to clarify my poorly constructed thoughts here - The Amp, is NOT the best on the market at this price (overall). It MIGHT be the best amp at the price for the 6XX exclusively, depending on your desired features.(If you only want single ended, THX or Asgard are better). The DAC, like I said in the video - Not worth it. (unless you REALLY want the stack). Even though it performs as it should. - J "

@intoitreviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaValour thanks for responding! I just wonder, which actually sounds better between the two. 789 is a pretty nice match for a balanced 6xx, if it sounds better than it, then it could be a reason to invest idk? Do you still have 789? Could you compare, and do a follow up video regarding 6xx specifically? That would be cool! I didn't mean to offend by the way, I was generally curious, as there was not much info on the sound today. I would just like more info since your pretty video got me curious. I wish I had your video skillzzzz.

@sverek

3 жыл бұрын

@@intoitreviews he just copy pasted, not responded. See other replies. Damage control is hard. You wanna enjoy your HD6xx? connect them to your mobile phone and just enjoy the music. Don't chase a rabbit and wonder what have changed after spending $$$ on dac and amps. People respect right products for a reason. Sad part is, most people cant tell the difference between $100 and $500 solid state amp. Owning hardware to enjoy music is different from owning hardware for pride and accomplishment. Edit: it's easy for me to lean and backseat! I really enjoyed Joshua reviews till now, hopefully he decides what is best for him.

@heythere6983

3 жыл бұрын

I think people get carried away with all the options. I’m a musician and also have been lookin at DACs and amps for some light referencing of songs That other amp you mentioned I have seen is apparently very straight forward sounding , clinical as some would say , like a magni or Hersey from schiit audio, just more powerful. I understand a more powerful amp can deliver sound better even if you don’t need all the power. That being said some people act like they need the most powerful amp ever , I’m not sure why unless they are trying to go deaf. I also don’t understand who is really listening to music with inner ear monitors lmao . But I have the ifi hip dac. I enjoyed the bit of warmth it has. I use it w it u my Sennheiser’s 600. It’s warm and totally articulate, it’s clear as you need it to be. But has warmth to it. Think of it as cozy . I just ordered the zen dac and zen can , not the drop versions, the regular ones to see how much better it can sound. They also offer different firmware to change the tone of the sound. The question is do you want something very dry and almost sterile in delivery? Or something with a lik warmth? I can say the ifi I have is very nice to listen to because it’s not super bright , which some people confuse with being more “clear”. It’s not muddy, muddy means it distorts the song and you can’t hear details. I can hear anything I have ever heard in any song on this little dac/amp. But brighter amps will highlight the high end and it will shoot into your ear more noticeably, also not so great for the ears . The ifi stuff also has bass boost and 3D features along with firmware changes to go along with the legendary brown chip they use in their dac. In the recording world that chip is really special because warmth is something that is prized in music production , and more so now when everyone is making songs on laptops and computer software that makes songs sound thinner and flatter than before . I wouldn’t waste money on the drip version , try out the regular versions on amazon , return for free, free shipping and see what it sounds like. For casual listening I’m not sure why anyone wants something super sterile. The whole idea of “this is what the studio wants you to hear “ is a bit overblown. They make songs sound somewhat safe so it translates to lots of different sound systems well. So they don’t hype bass too much for example. But they know itl sound boss when the song is played on a system with heavy bass. If they recorded and mixed a song with fat bass from the beginning, it will easily be overhyped in cars or clubs etc. so studio recordings are kinda lean sounding, on purpose, because they can come to life a bit more in consumer gear. You’ll never hear it how they do, unless ur in that room with their speakers and acoustics . So long story short, some people may say brighter or thinner sounding amps are better. That’s not true. From what Iv heard, the songs I hear still sound very accurate and correct on ifi stuff, and with a nice cozy warmth that makes you wanna listen for hours . It’s really nice in my opinion. Aslong as your gear doesn’t somehow cover up parts of the song idk how anyone can complain . It’s up to whether or not you want something bright or warmer/fatter. Fatter tones with more “body” are the most sought out in audio productions. No one really goes “hey I want this to sound super dry and lack fat tone”

You said this would work with the LCDs. I just got an LCD-X. I was looking into getting a DAC/AMP for my LCD-X to work with my computer. Currently, I have my LCD-X plugged into my computer to listen to audio on it. It can sound amazing. It can sound louder than my ears can handle. But I keep reading DAC/AMP is going to improve on that. Would this work well with that? Or what you suggest?

A little late to the game, but I'll ask anyway. I currently have my HD6XX hooked up to the Objective2 + ODAC. Would this IFi setup be a (noticable) upgrade?

Ifi can the same performance level as iDSD micro black label? Would prefer the portable option, atleast to move around the house.

Since they are so similar would this create the same great match with a HD 600?

Is the IFI SIG CAN good for the Beyer DT 1990 pro? What would you recommend as a good amp for the 1990 pro? Cheers

Could you compare the Zen CAN Signature with the vanilla Zen CAN that got released after?

Do you have any thoughts on this vs the Schiit stack Modi + Magni stack? I’m looking at getting a pair of HD 6XX’s but I live in Canada so the conversion rate plus shipping is gonna wreck me a bit. I’m wondering how this stack would compare to the Schiit stack in terms of price for what you get.

Does it work with sennheiser hd650??

Would Schiit Magni 3 be better for Sennheiser HD650 than Ifi CAN? What is the best headphone amp for HD650 for under $200 after all? Or maybe go with Fiio K5 pro (dac/amp), or Topping L30 (sn after 2012), or... I don't know. It's almost impossible to choose one.

I was thinking of this stack vs SMSL SU9N/SH9 stack. I have the 6xx, Sundara & couple of IEMs. Would this be suited to the 6xx as well as Sundara and my IEMs or would the SMSL stack a better option? I can get both stack at similar price and bluetooth option from the SMSL is a nice feature but not that important but the screen is nice tho.

If you ignore the bass boost. Does it really make a difference to Ifi zen dac for ~130$? This is almost 4x the price.

@SM-1234

3 жыл бұрын

I believe the zen dac also has a bass boost switch..I don't know if it could handle a 300ohms headphone tough

@SeanLiu4

3 ай бұрын

​@@SM-1234late response, but I own the ifi Zen V2 dac. I also own the Zmf Auteur which is a 300 ohm 97 dB rated headphone. The ifi Zen is adequate and runs it at high enough volumes without maxing the volume knob, albeit running through the 4.4mm balanced output. Getting a dedicated Amp would most likely yield a more refined sound, but I wouldn't consider it absolutely necessary

Joshua, how does this compare to the Mayflower ARC 2? Great video as always.

@SatanDynastyKiller

3 жыл бұрын

MO his name is Joshua...

Hart Audio cables in the US is superb. You buy one or more amp end short cables, XLR, 4.4mm etc to a mini XLR, then you get one or more headphone 4ft cables mini XLR to whatever your headphones need. As always with US shipping, outside postage costs are a bit high compared to others. I have a set of amp end adapters, and a 3.5mm balanced cable for my Sundaras. Means I can switch easily from my headphone amp to my Fiio M11. Plus they will do most any colour you like, if available.

Hi, can the Zen Dac be used without the Zen Can?

Could one just use the IFI zen DAC as the DAC with CAN and see the same results with the 6XXs? maybe you could test this. I already just bought the Zen DAC Paired with HD660s. Is it possible for you to test HD660s to see how they react and if the sound is enhanced as good as the 6XXs? with the IFI CAN and IFI DAC

heyooo! love your vids man and find them all super usefull! i bought my 58x jubilees on the bassis of your vids along with badseed techs! i am looking now though for an amp/dac or amp and a dac to use. im on a pc and do gaming as well but starting to really like the audio world. you input would mean alot to me but if ya dont get to it no worries i know you are busy so in the end hope you just take away that you make great content and keep it up! thank you!

Everytime drop puts something out all the KZreadrs have ad like reviews

@JoshuaValour

3 жыл бұрын

I posted this in the pinned comment, but I wanted to reply directly. "Hmmmm. Concerning trend in the comments. First, this is not an ad. This is a loan unit, sent from IFI. Neither Drop nor IFI is paying me. Nor asking me to say anything (except for the disclaimer about the pre-production status). I am however, part of Drop and Amazons Affiliate Programs, as disclosed in the description of every video. Second, if the video feels different and scripted... It is. I am trying a new filming style of video, using longer focal length and moving locations more often (always trying to better the content on the channel). - The scripting helps me make more jokes, and keep on track (especially when changing from location to location) with topics and information I might otherwise forget. However, my implementation of this is not the best, as it's one of the first times doing it. And, I see how it could seem more "ad-ish", though, not the intended feeling, I will make corrections to try to avoid it in the future. To address some specific questions I saw in the comments that I did not cover in this video specifically. This over 789? - For raw sound quality/power, no reason. Other reasons could be size, looks, EQ adjustments (if you don't/Cannot run EQ). I did not say it was better. I just said it outputs about the same power at 300 ohms specifically. So if you have a 6xx, the choice between the amps comes down to you desired features. This or Asgard? Depends. Asgard will drive more power demanding headphones, but will not be so good with high efficiency headphones, like IEMS. So, if you have really hard stuff, get Asgard or 789. Those will be the most versatile for more headphones. Using this Amp on the 58X - Sure! Sounds great, however, generally speaking, the 58X doesn't really need an amp in the same way that the 6XX does. So, to clarify my poorly constructed thoughts here - The Amp, is NOT the best on the market at this price (overall). It MIGHT be the best amp at the price for the 6XX exclusively, depending on your desired features.(If you only want single ended, THX or Asgard are better). The DAC, like I said in the video - Not worth it. (unless you REALLY want the stack). Even though it performs as it should. - J "

I'm currently looking to buy a headphone amp for my 6XX's. I recently bought a Cambridge Audio DacMagic 100 over an original DacMagic, so I have no balanced output from my DAC. Is it worth spending $250 + import tax just for the amp quality and specifically designed EQ? Or would I be better off buying a more affordable tube amp and some nice tubes? I'm thirsting for audio quality but I'm also kinda broke.

I'm a bit confused about balanced inputs. If I buy this or a thx 789, can I use a single ended input and still use the balanced output while still getting the benefits of a balanced output? I currently have a schit modi 2 dac, and I'd like to upgrade my amp without needing to buy a new dac. But I want to get a balanced output dac.

@slothman3981

3 жыл бұрын

I would like to know as well.

Everybody gangsta till Josh pulls a dank joke with a straight face rivaling deadpool’s

Can i connect rme adi2 dac to zen can balanced with 2xlr(female)/4.4mm Y shaped cable ??

I think the new style is pretty cool, seems a little quieter and more "professional" (not that you typically are in any sense unprofessional, but the production here seemed more polished) I think the timing of it being an item provided for review by a company and at the same time a semi-jarring change in style lends itself to people making assumptions. Excellent review and info as always.

Just a question. What is the reference of your tube pream behind you like at 5:14 ? Thanks

I wonder how this dac differs from their zen dac, or if its the same chip

I just ordered the ifi zen dac v2. Is that going to be good enough or do I need both of these for the 6xx?

Hey Joshua, You do such great videos , can just tell it over and over again. But now i am hella confused of what i should by myself I want to use it only on my PC-Setup The first question, where peoples opionion splits is -----> DO I WANT DAC+AMP-Combo or is just an AMP enough? Devices i researched and i want to decide between are: DAC/AMP: Creative Sound Blaster X3 Creative Sound BlasterX G6 Schiit Fulla 4 - E Syba Sonic AMP: Schiit Audio Magni // Heresy iFi Audio Zen CAN FiiO K5 Pro Fosi Audio Q4 DAC JDS Labs Atom Amp iFi Hip DAC What would you say i should go for? Regards, Benny

Seems like a good price point and I don't dislike the idea and iFi certainly makes quality products. I am confident however you can find another pairing that can get the most out of your 6xx without needing to wait until October. My personal Drop patience is at -1 db. Those gain stages on the CAN are interesting though.

Hey, sorry for the noob question, but do I even need a dac if I have a Raspberry Pi Streamer with HifiBerry OS and DAC2 HD Top Hat on it? Would it do any good to me?

guys i got the dt 1990s and L30+E30 combo. im thinking of selling them and rather get this ifi stack, do you think it would be worth it? since i miss a little bass in the topping stack

@RayCabrera1

3 жыл бұрын

I have the IFI Zen Stack and prefer the warmer sound of this stack to the Schiit stack which I returned, for being to dry and ridged.

I enjoyed the extra effort you put into this video and the new style you used. Did not think for a moment that you were being incentivized differently as others have mentioned. Thanks as always Josh and keep up the awesome work!

Balanced power output is lower than single ended?

I'm playing battle royales I have the 6xx and have a Sennheiser amp. Don't think I'm getting the power I need. What do you recommend?

I own a hd6xx headphone and was looking a for a good amp dac combo for about the $200. So I was looking at the schiit stack, jds labs stack and the topping stack. This however is priced way out the ball park for the target market of a person buying a hd6xx. These guys wanted a solution for "the most popular headphones" and wanted balanced as well. They should have rather have a all in one unit instead of charging $89 for it

Having a ZEN DAC/Amp combo (no power suply, just USB connected) and unbalanced headphones with no more than 300 Ohms, do you think it would be a significant upgrade in sound quality buying the ZEN CAN (the regular one, not this Signature Edition)?

@gabordemeter4301

3 жыл бұрын

I have the ZEN CAN (with and smsl sanskrit 10th mk2 dac) and I would say it was a good buy for the k7xx, drives them to their potential - that being said the drop version seems to be overpriced compared to the non-signature version. I got mine for 190eur packed with the iPower power supply. I wanna get an argon further down the line when that happens i might have to get a more powerful amp than the Zen Can

let's say I have a pair of hd660s, is this still as good/worth it?

I heard this Amp is supposed to be really good with some Beyer DT990/1990 whatever because it smoothes treble. Anyone know something about that?

What’s the best portable usb dac/amp for 6xx ?

How mutch better is it than just an Ifi hipdac?

So how would u go about connecting this to ur pc ?

is ifi can and ifi zen the same?i mean the sound

I wish Josh would put freq resp measurements for the amp with the 6XX EQ, or whatever they did, vs direct. Then there is headphone amp by DIY Audio Heaven that allows many different EQs, possibly with bass boost for something like 6XX, if someone feels comfortable with DIY Audio.

That DarkVoice comment at the beginning may saved me 500$+... Thank you 😁

@Firenmage433

3 жыл бұрын

Tubes ftw

Anyone to everyone, is this worth getting if I already have the Monoprice 887 with an SMSL su8 v2. (6XX are one of if not my favorite cans)

Wow, it's $300 now for just the Signature HD6xx amp. Is it worth the upgrade from a JDS Labs Atom (with a Topping D10 and HD6XX of course)?

I really liked the AMP a lot but I returned it. Well...i recently decided to get the 6xx. Now I really want this Amp and DAC again. I really haven't heard of much of a difference between this and the non-signature edition. I think I'll just get the non-signature version.

@GeorgeWPush

Жыл бұрын

the bass boost button im guessing

Currently running a Magni 2/Modi 2 Schiit stack and Sennheiser HD 700's, have been looking to upgrade for quite some time...trying to stay under $500 total...think this DAC& would be a good choice?

@TheDodgefan9

3 жыл бұрын

It seems to me that an JDS EL II amp (or even an Element 2 amp/DAC), Geshelli Erish, THX 789 or Schiit Asgard 3 with a Modius DAC could all be good upgrades for you. (and a better value than this ifi setup) I'm sure more people know the DAC options better than I do. I don't really know the Chinese brands well.

Hmm, really? , No comparison to other amps, no description of sound quality. I am sure it sounds very good with 6xx but we want to know how much good over amps like 789,if at all.

Hello. I‘m just dipping a toe in this whole Audiophil-comunity/thing. I ordered the 6xx right now and would like to know if it makes sense to just get the CAN without the DAC. I would really appreciate a responce!

Yeah for the price point ill keep my Schiit Jotunheim with multibit DAC.

Do i need to buy both?

Would you recommend getting this over something like an Asgard 3 if you have other hard-to-drive headphones?

@jlin5459

3 жыл бұрын

No grab the Asgard 3

@JoshuaValour

3 жыл бұрын

I posted this in the pinned comment, but I wanted to reply directly. "Hmmmm. Concerning trend in the comments. First, this is not an ad. This is a loan unit, sent from IFI. Neither Drop nor IFI is paying me. Nor asking me to say anything (except for the disclaimer about the pre-production status). I am however, part of Drop and Amazons Affiliate Programs, as disclosed in the description of every video. Second, if the video feels different and scripted... It is. I am trying a new filming style of video, using longer focal length and moving locations more often (always trying to better the content on the channel). - The scripting helps me make more jokes, and keep on track (especially when changing from location to location) with topics and information I might otherwise forget. However, my implementation of this is not the best, as it's one of the first times doing it. And, I see how it could seem more "ad-ish", though, not the intended feeling, I will make corrections to try to avoid it in the future. To address some specific questions I saw in the comments that I did not cover in this video specifically. This over 789? - For raw sound quality/power, no reason. Other reasons could be size, looks, EQ adjustments (if you don't/Cannot run EQ). I did not say it was better. I just said it outputs about the same power at 300 ohms specifically. So if you have a 6xx, the choice between the amps comes down to you desired features. This or Asgard? Depends. Asgard will drive more power demanding headphones, but will not be so good with high efficiency headphones, like IEMS. So, if you have really hard stuff, get Asgard or 789. Those will be the most versatile for more headphones. Using this Amp on the 58X - Sure! Sounds great, however, generally speaking, the 58X doesn't really need an amp in the same way that the 6XX does. So, to clarify my poorly constructed thoughts here - The Amp, is NOT the best on the market at this price (overall). It MIGHT be the best amp at the price for the 6XX exclusively, depending on your desired features.(If you only want single ended, THX or Asgard are better). The DAC, like I said in the video - Not worth it. (unless you REALLY want the stack). Even though it performs as it should. - J "

@ralphtchua

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaValour Thanks so much for addressing all of these concerns man. Aside from the sexy b-roll, you're integrity and honesty when it comes to reviewing products is the reason you're my favourite audio reviewer. And thanks to your comment above, I decided to pull the trigger on the Asgard 3! Keep up the good work man. :)

Is this also good for gaming?

What about using the dac for HD 58X?

@JoshuaValour

3 жыл бұрын

I posted this in the pinned comment, but I wanted to reply directly. "Hmmmm. Concerning trend in the comments. First, this is not an ad. This is a loan unit, sent from IFI. Neither Drop nor IFI is paying me. Nor asking me to say anything (except for the disclaimer about the pre-production status). I am however, part of Drop and Amazons Affiliate Programs, as disclosed in the description of every video. Second, if the video feels different and scripted... It is. I am trying a new filming style of video, using longer focal length and moving locations more often (always trying to better the content on the channel). - The scripting helps me make more jokes, and keep on track (especially when changing from location to location) with topics and information I might otherwise forget. However, my implementation of this is not the best, as it's one of the first times doing it. And, I see how it could seem more "ad-ish", though, not the intended feeling, I will make corrections to try to avoid it in the future. To address some specific questions I saw in the comments that I did not cover in this video specifically. This over 789? - For raw sound quality/power, no reason. Other reasons could be size, looks, EQ adjustments (if you don't/Cannot run EQ). I did not say it was better. I just said it outputs about the same power at 300 ohms specifically. So if you have a 6xx, the choice between the amps comes down to you desired features. This or Asgard? Depends. Asgard will drive more power demanding headphones, but will not be so good with high efficiency headphones, like IEMS. So, if you have really hard stuff, get Asgard or 789. Those will be the most versatile for more headphones. Using this Amp on the 58X - Sure! Sounds great, however, generally speaking, the 58X doesn't really need an amp in the same way that the 6XX does. So, to clarify my poorly constructed thoughts here - The Amp, is NOT the best on the market at this price (overall). It MIGHT be the best amp at the price for the 6XX exclusively, depending on your desired features.(If you only want single ended, THX or Asgard are better). The DAC, like I said in the video - Not worth it. (unless you REALLY want the stack). Even though it performs as it should. - J "

I love ifi

This is hitting the price range of Chord Mojo. How do they compare to each other?

What's the song at 6:45 please?

I have the 6XX, so Zen Can or 789?

It's like installing aston martin engines into honda civic. Is it good? Maybe.. Is it convenient? For a price point.. I don't think so

As a recent 6xx owner this is appealing. But why this over a different amp and EQ like the Schiit Magni + Loki EQ that would be able to have a benefit for all of my headphones? I already have a standalone DAC

@dCotnijoeb

3 жыл бұрын

As cool as the Loki is, it won't give you the precision of something like a PMEQ or the Zen Signature (Obviously only for 6XX). There are certainly still advantages to the Loki though, like obviously being able to benefit all headphones like you mentioned. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive, although the cost obviously does add up.

Joshua, thanks for the effort on the review I think the new style is good overall and doesn't detract from what you do. You're generally being treated unfairly in the comments by people who've likely never used or heard the product. You discussed fairly what it does and why it might not be a great value. At no point did you say its actually better sound than many other amp, just that at $250 and for the 6XX specifically it does complement very well. Whether people decide spending more on an amp specific to a headphone that costs less than the amp itself is on them. For 6XX fanatics especially those who already own a separate DAC I think its a fine buy, for others, maybe not so much.

Klipsch R41-PM review soon? :) (Or are these R51-PMs?)

@heretustay

3 жыл бұрын

I was just wondering the same thing. I got the r41-m's (passive) and wasn't a fan, but couldn't rule out my amp or set up being the problem. Curious to know his take or if the 51's might just be better speakers?

@heretustay

3 жыл бұрын

After doing some looking around, seeing them in other vids, those looks about the r51 size. I could definitely be wrong, but that's my hunch.

Well, I just bought an Amp/DAC......RME ADI-2 DAC.

@tendayimavhima

3 жыл бұрын

Good buy

@D0OEE

3 жыл бұрын

German made bruh thats endgame good buy

how is this better than a shiit stack with a good eq?!

@TheEldestBoyTV

3 жыл бұрын

I’m wondering the same thing. I have a basic shciit stack, along with the LOKI for eq’ing. Wonder if this will be any better than what I am currently using?

Only 94 of these sold on drop??? How do I get one? Dammit

Perhaps you can add some “Easter eggs” in the background object collection to make it more fun for those of us who focus on these things and try to find the logic behind them beings in the shots.

Ifi ended up using the same design as the original Zen DAC, other than changing the colour to match the HD6XX. I originally was thinking of getting this but ended up spending extra coin for the Schiit Magni Heresy and Modi 3 stack instead.

@dCotnijoeb

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure where people got the notion that the circuitry is just a copy of the Zen DAC split into two boxes. There's some basic info on the thread on HF with some more in depth tech note links at the bottom if you want to check it out. www.head-fi.org/threads/ifi-audio-zen-can-signature-6xx-zen-dac-signature.936743/

@Cloudy_Canadian

3 жыл бұрын

@@dCotnijoeb I did not mean to imply that they had the same circuitry, I simply meant they have the same "look" when I used the word "design"... Just poorly worded on my part, my bad. None the less, thanks for the link!

is this also specifically designed for the original hd650?

@dCotnijoeb

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the 650 and 6XX. Also works with 600 though.

Is that Valentino Rossi’s helmet in the background?

Im actually really interested in this stack. The 6XX was my first real step into the Audiophile realm and while I have purchased a couple other headphones over the last few years, the 6XX is still a beloved daily driver. Im still listening to it on an old ODAC/O2 Amp. I think this would be a nice upgrade. And if its anything like the Hip-Dac, I think our Sundara and Ananda would sound really good on this stack too. I know that it can be difficult to find 4.4mm cables, but they are out there. Dekoni makes s 4.4mm cable for the 6XX. But its around $100. I could get what would likely be a higher quality custom made cable from various places. Audiophile Ninja on Etsy made me some awesome custom cables. I think he has 4.4mm termination as an option too.

@SinisterDev85

3 жыл бұрын

Oh also, several sites, like Amazon and Audio46 are selling the signature bundle that includes the otherwise expensive 4.4mm to 4.4mm cable as well!

@cricket4life249

3 жыл бұрын

Rather get the Zen Dac V2 with the Zen Can. Way cheaper and better value for money.

@STF_YVR

2 жыл бұрын

@@cricket4life249 I have both and no it is not. If you get the bundle from Amazon, the Signature stack is great value for money and sounds better.

@cricket4life249

2 жыл бұрын

@@STF_YVR No it doesn't😂😂😂 It is way more expensive too😂😂😂

does anyone has the micro iFi idsd black label. i have hd650 that aree very hungry and i was wondering if this apmdac is any good?

@kristopherb9404

3 жыл бұрын

I currently use the iFI idsd black label with my HD6xx and its a stunning combo! would recommend. I have it on normal power and it gets painfully loud

Interesting. Still need to hear your thoughts on the HeddPhone. I am almost pulling the trigger on it over the Arya. Come and stop me Josh. Will drive with the RME ADI-2 DAC

@musicxxa6678

3 жыл бұрын

its 1kg

8 mintues of a Drop ad

@JoshuaValour

3 жыл бұрын

I posted this in the pinned comment, but I wanted to reply directly. "Hmmmm. Concerning trend in the comments. First, this is not an ad. This is a loan unit, sent from IFI. Neither Drop nor IFI is paying me. Nor asking me to say anything (except for the disclaimer about the pre-production status). I am however, part of Drop and Amazons Affiliate Programs, as disclosed in the description of every video. Second, if the video feels different and scripted... It is. I am trying a new filming style of video, using longer focal length and moving locations more often (always trying to better the content on the channel). - The scripting helps me make more jokes, and keep on track (especially when changing from location to location) with topics and information I might otherwise forget. However, my implementation of this is not the best, as it's one of the first times doing it. And, I see how it could seem more "ad-ish", though, not the intended feeling, I will make corrections to try to avoid it in the future. To address some specific questions I saw in the comments that I did not cover in this video specifically. This over 789? - For raw sound quality/power, no reason. Other reasons could be size, looks, EQ adjustments (if you don't/Cannot run EQ). I did not say it was better. I just said it outputs about the same power at 300 ohms specifically. So if you have a 6xx, the choice between the amps comes down to you desired features. This or Asgard? Depends. Asgard will drive more power demanding headphones, but will not be so good with high efficiency headphones, like IEMS. So, if you have really hard stuff, get Asgard or 789. Those will be the most versatile for more headphones. Using this Amp on the 58X - Sure! Sounds great, however, generally speaking, the 58X doesn't really need an amp in the same way that the 6XX does. So, to clarify my poorly constructed thoughts here - The Amp, is NOT the best on the market at this price (overall). It MIGHT be the best amp at the price for the 6XX exclusively, depending on your desired features.(If you only want single ended, THX or Asgard are better). The DAC, like I said in the video - Not worth it. (unless you REALLY want the stack). Even though it performs as it should. - J "