⌚ Timestamps ⌚ 00:00 Intro 01:16 Physical Design and build 01:36 Included Accessories 01:54 Front Panel Controls 02:22 Gain Modes 02:49 Front Panel Outputs 03:12 XBass & 3D Mode 05:12 Rear Panel IO 06:19 Output Power 07:19 Pricing 07:33 Sound 11:13 Comparing Zen DAC TrueBass to Zen CAN XBass 13:16 Value and Conclusion

Hilarious intro. The review is spot-on. Been using one myself. loving it.

One of the easiest subs I've done.Straight to the point,very informative with a nice word play twist here and there.Keep it up !!

Excellent review, I concur as well as zen Can owner. I feed the topping E30 dac into it. I notice on my DT770 250 ohms that I put the gain to +12db, and turn down the volume to about 9 o'clock. It brings out the mids, puts them more forward, and adds more dynamic range, making them much more exciting. If I want "easy listening" while working I switch it back to 0db gain.

47 seconds in and you got me to sub to you. just the serious intro to a. can can comedy section segway so smooth and just wow, subbbbed

Thanks for helping me making my purchase decision yet again. Looks like the Zen Dac is the right one for me.

Great review Noel. It’s worth noting that the ifi power supplies are surprisingly low noise for “wall wart” switching power supplies. They sell for $50 separately. There’s a few tests online comparing the iPower versus high end linear power supplies. Also, the ifi Nano BL Dac/amp that I have has balanced output via its 3.5 mm output (ifi always seems to have some nice hidden features). It’s an unusual standard but I bought a 3.5 mm to 2.5 mm balanced adapter. Works like a charm.

It is quite a powerful amplifier at budget segment. Awesome review from you!!

Great review, sending this a buddy I think this will work perfectly for him

Great price for a great piece of gear that also looks attractive. I just started using their hipdac and love the thing.

Great review, always informative and pleasant to listen to. Please make also for dt 1990

@WheezyTech

3 жыл бұрын

1990 is in the list, I keep putting it off, I need to get that done :D

i was able to follow your wordy intro lol you nailed it!!

Great review, got both these. Thinking about getting 660s but worry about bass, do you think these would suit the 660s and boost bass a little ??

Love your thumbnail!!!

@WheezyTech

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :D

I purchased the Zen Can - Zen Dac stack, based on these reviews. Bought it for my Sennheiser HD 6xx and Hifimann 4xx and after listening and comparing to my Schitt stack, I found that I really enjoyed the sound much more on the Zen Stack, and returned the Schitt stack. The Zen stack had a much smoother sound and the bass button on the Can does add that extra kick to the bass that makes it sound really nice. Thank you.

@stuka78

3 жыл бұрын

Just bought HE400i 2020; how do they work with the ZEN CAN?

@RayCabrera1

3 жыл бұрын

@@stuka78 if you use the Zen Can Amp you get a nice smooth sound and with the Xbass button, you get a nice deeper clear bass

@stuka78

3 жыл бұрын

@@RayCabrera1 thanks, good to know! I’m suffering of shrill vocals and sibilance with HE400i 2020, fed with portable tube amp (Little Bear B4) despite the replaced Burson V5i opAmp... I was hoping if the ZEN CAN could smooth them (Spotify EQ does something, but limited bands); i was wondering if the amp could really improve HE400i, maybe with more headroom in terms of power and dB?

@RayCabrera1

3 жыл бұрын

@@stuka78 I actually sold my HE4XX and replaced them with the Hifiman Sundara's and can say they sound terrific using the Ifi Zen Cans

New subscriber. Great review. Two questions if you have the time: would it be worth getting the Zen Can in addition to the Zen Dac when using a pair of HD 650s? Have you heard the Ifi Hip Dac, and if so, is it pretty much the same as the Zen Dac in terms of sound and power? Thanks :)

Great Vid. Thanks!

Amazing review~

@WheezyTech

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :D

Great review! New subscriber! Can you plug this into the iFi Zen Phono and use it for its volume control into active speakers? Thanks

Thank you very much for the video and the effort you put into each video, I follow you for your analysis and opinions both without any commitment. One question, these days my 6xxs are coming to me and they are my first entry into this world of hifi, a friend recommended me the ifi zen dac + can (because for him, the more power is better for the 6xx), but seeing Your review, I do not think that buying it for 210 $ (in my country) will obtain significant changes, Do you think that with zen dac I will be satisfied introducing myself in this world? Or maybe I can see better amp, pre amp, tube options in this case like the little dot mk2 (aliexpress for $ 170) and add it to my ifi zen dac ?, I am afraid that acquiring this tube amp will not really obtain a significant change when it comes to improving my 6xx, I hope your opinion, or another user who can help me. P.S. It would be great if you could teach how to EQ the 6xx, for newbies like me.

Great review!

It works great without a DAC, I am just using it as an amp into a Hidizs AP80 Pro Dap and FiiO 3.5 to 3.5 aux cable.

Hey wheezy I used to run my k712 pro with a fiio e10k (200mw) , on high gain around 4 o clock , but recently I bought a used fiio a5 (800mw) and that on high gain around 3o clock ,I think I am getting better bass response and dynamics , is it just a placebo or higher volume or maybe it's what people call "driving" the headphone properly than just getting the volume. Maybe that was the reason why 880 600 ohm performed better on zen can . Also would like to know your thoughts on how Zen dac and zen can did with k712 pro.

using the Hifiman Arya (Stealth) with just the Zen Dac - and wondering if it would make sense to upgrade to Zen Can or even the Signature

Is the standard setting without gain enabled good enough for over ear head phones? I know some amps have the low gain for IEMs.

I ask for zen can they sent me zen dac that's amazon for you but am sending it back. Love your reviews thank you.

When you did all these comparative tests of the quality of the increase in bass, power with or without loss of clarity, etc. between the Zen Dac/Zen Can, did you do it in symmetrical or asymmetrical mode ? My headphones are 250 ohms.

Did you try balanced outputs? Or was this just tested for unbalanced output?

For a decent planar, try the Monoprice Monolith M1070 - got them for 285 at cyber monday and they sound great. Basically budget LCD2's

@MrAhuraMazda

3 жыл бұрын

If you get a working pair, the Monoprice planars are insanely good value for money. The M1060C are significant upgrades from my old 4XX, im sure the M1070 is even better

I bought the Sennheiser HD 660s today and I was wondering what kind of AMP/DAC should I buy. The site where I will be buying it from, states that the ZEN CAN can output 300 Ω. The headphones require 150 Ω.( maybe someone who knows better, can explain what should I know about the Ω requirements) I am worried that the Zen Can will not power the headphones properly. Currently using a 35$ Logilink amp. that does that have enough power but has optical to connect it to my PC. The ZEN CAN does not have Optical IN. How does one person connect this to their PC ? besides 3.5 jack Thank you !

I own a Zen Can. Some quick testing revealed it had a serious amount of crosstalk so I returned it thinking it was faulty. The new unit is exactly the same. Don't get me wrong the thing sounds amazing but the crosstalk on it cannot be ignored. I'm surprised so many reviewers have missed it when its so easy to test for.

@kencur9690

3 жыл бұрын

Well some people pay thousands to have Crossfeed on their amps, here you get it for free!

@nonenothing4412

3 жыл бұрын

Does it have crosstalk in balanced as well?

@OverHaze

3 жыл бұрын

@@nonenothing4412 Yep. I opened a support ticket about it and apparently the crosstalk is deliberate. It's part of how it's tuned. I don't know how I feel about that.

Can this IFi Zen Can alone can be paired to logitech Z313 Speakers?

Great! Q: If stacked, can you listen to both the DAC and the AMP at the same time, with one headphone connected to each unit simultaneously?

@WheezyTech

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you CAN ;)

@GaryPallett

3 жыл бұрын

I have these stacked with my T1 Gen 2 plugged into the Zen Can 4.4mm (balanced) and my T5p Gen 2 plugged into the Zen DAC 6.3mm (single ended). They both play perfectly together and I just drop the volume down on the DAC when just using the T1 and can keep the Zen Can switched off when just using the T5p. Lovely sound running Roon/Tidal straight out my Mac.

Any ome use is with HD800s? I am thinking buy a Can to give more juice. But at Dac alreday sooooo lound.. I have no idea the different.

How ifi zen can work with audeze lcd2 classics?

Hi. If you just had to buy one, only to use with PC for spotify and gaming with some SPH9500 ATH-AD700 or AKG K500 all 32oms you choose the ZEN DAC/AMP combo or the ZEN CAN? Thanks

@milanfan81

2 жыл бұрын

I have the SHP 9500 using it with the zen dac only.. its good enough for me I feel

This How is it with speakers? I've never owned headphones. I have Zen you and Zen def v2. What is a 4.4mm?

Hi, I am looking for some dac/amp for my Ananda (using ibassoDC04 for now). I this setup an overkill for ananda, as you mentioned?? Kindly suggest an appropriate dac/amp. regards

@WheezyTech

2 жыл бұрын

If your ibasso works then just stick with that. If you want something for your desktop you really cant go wrong with the Zen DAC. The Zen CAN is a little overkill, Ananda doesn't need much power.

It’s great for 250ohm headphones right?

It seems that Zen Can at a low impedence(32ohm) has better power output performance when used single-ended. Do you still recommend using it balanced? My headphones are both 25ohm and 55ohm.

@WheezyTech

3 жыл бұрын

I personally wouldn't bother with balanced, at least not for such low impedance headphones.

Hey, it will be good combination with mobile phone and akg k702?

Thanks from India. Is the zen can an essential upgrade over zen dac v2 for my hifiman sundara running on balanced 4.4? is the power from zen dac enough for sundara?

@RayCabrera1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it should definitely be enough for the Sundaras.

@gamingandmusic9217

2 жыл бұрын

@@RayCabrera1 i bought zen dac v2 2 days back. And you are right. It is a great device for Sundara, especially the true bass.

Is this a good amp for the Sennheiser HD660S2??

I have paired my IFI Zen Air DAC with JBL 305p MKII Monitors using IFI Zen Air DAC’s RCA outputs… Will it be safe to use the XBass+ feature of IFI Zen Air DAC when I’m listening to my JBL Speakers? Is XBass+ only meant for headphones and not for speakers? Is XBass+ an ASP? And better than DSP? Please help!

Do you think that connecting the Zen CAN to the "ZEN DAC AIR" would improve this AIR version of the ZEN DAC? The Zen DAC AIR has, like the Zen CAN, the XBass+ function but also a function called Power Match. I don't know if this Power Match function is basically the same as the GAIN function on the Zen Can. I also don't know if the 3D function of the Zen CAN offers a better result than the Xspace function of the AIR version of the Zen Can. Did the iFi Zen Can amplifier you analyze in this video include the wall-mounted power adapter and RCA cables in the box?

Excellent review! As an aside, if you want your Zen DAC sound to it's full potential, spend the $200+ for iFi's Mercury 3.0 USB Cable. I was hesitant to do it, but the difference relative to the USB Cable provided with the unit is Huge, even through my sub-$100 headphones. That said, my experience with the two units connected with a 4.4 Balanced cable is near identical to what Wheezy experienced. Sparks in Daytona

Can i use the zen dac with the dt1990 or do I need to get the zen can ?

one question can I use the zen can and connect it as you say to a Topping D10s DAC with RCA cables and then I want to connect my headphones to the zen can with a balanced cable, will it work? and this zen can give me enough power in volume at 100% to my hifiman he400se with balanced cable? with the configuration I just mentioned.

Hello. Have you noticed that the Zen Can heats up a little anyway, sometimes more, sometimes less, sometimes not at all? The Can is not very hot either, nothing abnormal in my opinion. I wondered if this heat could be caused by the power adapter that came with the Zen Can. The adapter included in the packaging box of my Zen Can (compared to the adapter you show in your video) is very small and also does not display the iFi Audio name anywhere on it. The adapter I have is anyway 5v (as it should be). Is the iFi name on your own adapter? I suddenly suspected the clerk at the store I bought the Zen Can it from had changed perhaps the adapter and then recreated the plastic cellophane packing around the cardboard box to make sure it looked like it was new never been opened (the RCA cables are not purple like yours, either but at least they have the iFi brand written on them). Perhaps the difference between your accessories and mine can be explained by the fact that Zen Can accessories vary from one continent to another (?). In my case North America. You are right about the bass, the Zen CAN's xBass is much more discreet than that of the Zen DAC (even if the xBass of the Zen DACis already subtle). You can also activate xBass on the CAN and the DAC at the same time. In some video playbacks, activating xBass or not is more positive. In the case of the 3D function, I noticed while listening to a Wimbledon tennis match yesterday on KZread that it improved, but only very subtly, the sound sensation of the places (for example with the ambient sound of applause). But it's really minimally. My first seconds of listening to the Zen CAN (connected to the Zen DAC by RCA) left me quite perplexed and a little discouraged, I did not see the fundamental gain: the power was sufficient with the DAC alone, the bass of the DAC was higher than that of the CAN, and the 3D of the CAN had an imperceptible result: in short, I mainly saw the 175 pounds that I had perhaps spent for nothing! But by comparing and connecting the DAC alone, then the CAN connected to the DAC, and several other times alternately, I ended up seeing that for example the gain of the CAN (the three degrees of gain in front of the Zen Can) was audible and also that increasing the volume of the DAC quite a bit on its own (without the CAN connected) offered a less fleshed out sound, what I think you call a more compressed sound. But this difference in quality at high volume is not a revolution. I also noticed that the xBass function of the CAN, more discreet, was often ideal for just a little neutralizing the dryness of certain recordings. That said, the Zen DAC on its own does an excellent job in headphone mode. Basically, I notice that the ear gets used to and can even become dependent on the sound of the DAC or CAN. I would like to point out that my Zen DAC is the lighter version, that is to say the Zen DAC AIR. Conversely, my Zen CAN is the most expensive full version (not the AIR). I use the CAN and the DAC exclusively in headphone mode (I have not connected anything behind the CAN). My headphones are a 48 ohm Beyerdynamic DT 900 ProX (open-back headphones).

I have a soundblaster x G1 and I use the audio technica msr70b (32 ohm). Would it be better if I get like a professional DAC as one of those or the G6?

@nonenothing4412

3 жыл бұрын

G1 isn't sufficient. Better something like CAN

@kevinantomusic

3 жыл бұрын

Zen DAC is great or you can use a normal audio interfaces....If your headphones is above 300ohms, you can go for the Zen Can

Hey mate. I just ordered this thinking it would drive my Beyer 990s (250 ohms), Shall I send it back, or will it drive them? Or can I find a way to patch it into the 4.4 balanced jack? Sorry, I’m new to all this. Thanks man.

@Jacky1994

2 жыл бұрын

it can drive it easily

@StarWarsJay

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jacky1994 thank you :) I ended up buying it and it worked fine like you said.

The Fiio K3 does the same thing as the Zen Dac for less money. I'm not saying it sounds better, but its power is provided by USBc so it can draw higher amperage than the ZENdac. It also has bass boost, three gain levels, a switch for USB 1 and USB 2 audio, coax, optical and line out, balanced and unbalanced headphone out. And it has a volume knob that physically turns off the dac when you want it to draw no power... In a quarter of the space of a Zen product, making it even better for mobile applications. Despite the greatness of the Fiio K3, it's too light for a headphone cable to be hanging off it it on the desktop, so I bought a Zen Dac for my desktop and balanced headphones. MAYbe a Zen Can to follow.

I wanted to get Zen Dac, for HD6xx that I'm waiting for, but I really need an option of line-in to connect to vinyl/CD player either directly or via an AV receiver (probably AVR-X2700H as Sony STR-DN1080 is out of stock everywhere). I started looking at FiiO K5 pro, topping offerings etc. Reading all the reviews, opinions, comparisons- it honestly makes my head spin and I'm still none the wiser about what should I choose. I would prefer an integrated DAC/AMP but now I'm thinking maybe I should get that DEC CAN and later on some kind of cheap Dac like Cyrus soundKey that WhatHiFi seems to like a lot or some other model that I could hide out of the view so it doesn't look ugly next to Zen... Yeah, I would lie if I said that the way ZEN CAN looks is not affecting my decisions. Oh- I should also add that the best sound quality I ever had a chance to hear is listening to songs on KZread using my wife's Sony Wh-100xm3. I'd love to experience better quality music-hence my buying of HD6xx, but I have no idea what I like or what most of these audiophile terms even mean. Anyone would care to comment with some advice?

@bentobox3140

3 жыл бұрын

Don't bother with the cheap small DACs. Especially if you want to connect to a receiver or a vinyl player. Zen Dac has RCA out which might make connecting speakers easier. I'd say start with the Zen Dac or K5 Pro. I have the Zen Stack with the 6XX and R70X headphones but never really felt I needed the Zen Can. Not too much a difference in sound quality aside from the Zen Can having much more volume available if I needed to go louder. Which I didn't because the Dac had enough volume for everything I used it for. You should test the K5 Pro and Zen Dac to see how you like them paired with the 6XX. I liked the Zen for its bass boost button. But the K5 Pro had more inputs.

do a review of the vmoda m-200 it barely seems to have left a footprint on the headphone market

@nonenothing4412

3 жыл бұрын

Then why review

If i dont have a 4.4mm balanced cable ( i only have rca atm) to connect the dac with the Can i won't be able to listen in balanced mode with the Zen Can?

@dakrisis

2 жыл бұрын

You will still be able to connect a balanced headphone and the sound you hear is technically balanced. A balanced input is not necessary for balanced output.

Having a ZEN DAC/Amp combo (no power suply, just USB connected) and unbalanced headphones with no more than 300 Ohms, do you think it would be a significant upgrade in sound quality buying the ZEN CAN? I’m shure it’s great but is it a BIG upgrade sound-wise to the ZEN DAC Amp section for Headphones with maximum 300 Ohm?

@nonenothing4412

3 жыл бұрын

From what I hear from people it seems that dac's headphone out is warmer and the CAN is sharper and clearer. I didn't listen the zen dac but the Can is impressive

@armindodias1465

3 жыл бұрын

@@nonenothing4412 Thanks for the reply!

@nonenothing4412

3 жыл бұрын

@@armindodias1465 youre welcome bro. If you have any questions, ask.

@armindodias1465

3 жыл бұрын

@@nonenothing4412 Thanks! Well, since I’m here... does the 3D effect really widens up the space or is something very subtle?

@nonenothing4412

3 жыл бұрын

@@armindodias1465 its obvious yet it retains original sound. Does magic with iems or closed back headphones. Really cool stuff. XBass is also great, it gently boosts only the sub frequencies and doesn't ruin the sound

Can you just use the Zen Can stand alone without the DAC.

👍

I am not saying you should listen Tunnel Of Love (Live At Hammersmith Odeon, London/1983). You're welcome.

The difference in sound quality is much more apparent if you use a 4.4mm balanced interconnect between the Dac and the Can. Amazon have it for £13.

@nonenothing4412

3 жыл бұрын

What other dacs use 4.4? I just bought the CAN, currently using dongle as a dac lol

@LyK0sa

3 жыл бұрын

What's the brand? I'm interested in picking up one of these to go with my zen dac, but I refuse to pay £70 for ifi's own stubby little cable, and that's all I can find (on amazon at least)

@Lockk9

3 жыл бұрын

@@LyK0sa - This is the one I got from Amazon .DE Germany for £14 (Delock Jack Cable 4.4 mm 5 Pin Male to Male 0.5 m Black)

@milanfan81

2 жыл бұрын

does it make a difference if I have a dt 770 unbalanced? or is it only apparent when using balanced headphones

@JOKEMMM

2 жыл бұрын

4.4mm Male to 4.4mm male Balanced is what you need to search and you will find 'loads' of options :)

Hi this iFi Zen Can sound quality better than Ibasso dx160

Is this also bus powered or does it come with a power supply, it seems way to powerful to be bus Powered? My Hibby R2 DAP has a line out function, does this mean I could use it as the DAC for this Amp?

@nonenothing4412

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you could use that hiby as a source. This unit doesn't have usb. Mine came with 5v power supply (in czech republic)

@adrianmorrish8494

3 жыл бұрын

@@nonenothing4412 hibby uses usb at 24bit 48k as a dac output with MQA decodi g etc, I didn't realise there wasn't a USB input, so that would not work would it?

@nonenothing4412

3 жыл бұрын

@@adrianmorrish8494 after a dac you have an analogue signal, right? Send it through rca or 3.5 into the zen can.

@adrianmorrish8494

3 жыл бұрын

@@nonenothing4412 Was concerned that I would be double amping though rather than fixed line out, thx

@adrianmorrish8494

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh new to this, didn't know you could get usc c to rca cables, not something I have ever looked at before

There is a huge difference between the zen dac and the zen signature stack if anyone is wondering.

@odin1983

2 жыл бұрын

What difference? Could you write something more?

@dnd6379

2 жыл бұрын

@@odin1983 Deeper bass, even more full bodied and even smoother mids . It pairs incredibly well with 6xx/650. 6XX mode is exactly what anyone had a complaint about the 650 before but fixed, so it adds a bit of treble so there is no “veil” and adds rumble to the sub bass. Any genre of music I put on so far has been superb. The vocals are buttery smooth, the soundstage is open like a pair of speakers which usually isn’t the case with 650 unless amped correctly, meaning class A, R2R or tubes. The stack really upgraded the sound of the 650 and I wouldn’t put a price of 325€ on them anymore, they perform well above the price point if you got them amped like this. Both 650 and Sundara sounded much better with the signature stack, regular dac was really nice regardless, but the signature stack really pushes both of these headphones to the max in terms of soundstage, bass, mids, highs.

This or Topping A50s?

can can 😂😂😂😂...nice review, btw. I just ordered a can

So can the zen can be portable does it include a DAC?

@lukenuked

2 жыл бұрын

No

pair the Zen Can with Topping D10 and it run sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet plus it lil bit cheaper

Can it power AKG K712 Pro and if so is there a difference in sound that's noticeable ?

@BillGrady

3 жыл бұрын

Yes..it matches the K712 really well. I use it with the XBass for that extra presence in the low end. It's also the only amp that has tamed my Q701's and improved the sound of those as well.

@samstone2641

3 жыл бұрын

@@BillGrady Thanks man that's really helpfull.

@PakoPnF

3 жыл бұрын

@@BillGrady Hello, what other amps did you try? Using just the Zen Dac with the K712, did it works also, or you really need the Amp. Can you ear a difference just lissening to the DAC and from the DAC and AMP on the K712?

@BillGrady

3 жыл бұрын

@@PakoPnF I'm using just the Zen Can which has no DAC. I tried the Modi 3 but didn't like it and sent it back. I'm feeding the Zen Can with a Topping E30, connected to a NAD CD player. I can see this being my setup for many years, as the Topping E30, Zen Can, and AKG 712 works very well together.

@PakoPnF

3 жыл бұрын

@@BillGrady Nice, the E30 to the Zen Dac are kind of the same quality, i think is just a matter of preference...In terms of gain you run the AKG K712 onm low gain 3oclock or it need some more juice?

Zen can + zen dac or ... Zen can + Topping e30 dac?

@odin1983

2 жыл бұрын

Or Topping E30 with A50s?

Sundara would have been better for this comparison than Ananda

@multiversechorus

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm wondering if the improvement in the "bass boost" is worth adding it to the ZEN DAC.

@zyghom

3 жыл бұрын

@@multiversechorus no, Sundara is less sensitive - the point for good amp ;-)

@zyghom

3 жыл бұрын

@@multiversechorus So I bought CAN after 1 week of using DAC only - for Sundara CAN makes huge difference. Also: CAN xbass and 3D are magnificent - much better than xbass on DAC. On CAN the xbass is totally different: subtle, nice, not as punchy as on DAC but much better quality than on DAC. At least for me with Sundara. Oh, and I am using both connected with balanced cable and also balanced with Sundara - it is lovely stack (together with BLUE)

@multiversechorus

3 жыл бұрын

@@zyghom Thanks for the update. Looks like I'll be adding the CAN and making a stack.

@zyghom

3 жыл бұрын

@@multiversechorus since I have also BLUE now I am wondering and still testing the sound quality difference between BLUE and DAC - so far I am opting for ... selling DAC as BLUE with aptX from laptop and LDAC from my phone... not much of difference from DAC and USB cable yet much more flexible and ... cheaper

It's sheer madness(and nothing else) to get a high impedance headphone, stack it to amps and dacs one over the other and get lost in ever confusing wires. Where is the music then. It's better to get a decent low impedance headphone, plug directly into mobile(or use a simple amp if interested) and get lost in to your music. Any contrary view is most welcome

@dannybos7024

3 жыл бұрын

If I have the option to choose between listening on my earbuds on my phone or to my Sundara on my Atom, the choice is made pretty fast.

@multiversechorus

3 жыл бұрын

All my friends had this same opinion until I let them listen to my Sundara/ZEN DAC combo. I probably hurt their wallets for them.

@dannybos7024

3 жыл бұрын

@@multiversechorus Yeah same. I've introduced probably around 30 friends and family members of mine to the audiophile world and at least 20 of them have joined.

@kencur9690

3 жыл бұрын

@@dannybos7024 where did he mention “earbuds”? He clearly said “a decent low impedance headphone”.

@kencur9690

3 жыл бұрын

You are mostly right, though you’d have to define “decent”. Really decent headphones still benefit from an amp, even when entirely capable of being driven by a phone. You yourself suggest to use a simple amp, so the only extra item would be a dac. And these wires connect to each other: in the end only one cable connect to your headphones. Also, one can get a good dac/amp combo.