When you need medical information, stay away from politicians.

@user-ec3rm9wr1n

Ай бұрын

That's the truth 😌....

@dogelord144

Ай бұрын

Or from big pharma. They just want to suck the money out of you.

@Royay

Ай бұрын

Yeah and sometimes Drs and nurses rofl. They almost killed my friends wife by giving her the wrong medication while in the hospital and unconscious.

@justjoddat

Ай бұрын

this is also why politicians shouldn't tell women what they can do with their bodies...especially based on religious beliefs that not everyone even follows

@indianasb59

Ай бұрын

Can we please talk about the fact that the mRNA ‘vaccine’ is a RNA modulator and NOTHING at all like the normal vaccines. That’s where the conversation needs to start.

"Stay home if you are sick" means "get suspended without pay, and lose your health care plan" for a lot of people

@yeetyeet7070

Ай бұрын

america 💯

@johnnyc0882

Ай бұрын

Depends on the company, some companies offer paid sick leave and where I live (which is not a state but a territory) paid sick leave is mandated by law

@yeetyeet7070

Ай бұрын

​@@johnnyc0882depends on the society you live in, whether it's fully AnCap or whether it has some humanity to itself

@dorothea_walland

Ай бұрын

that is why he said it has to be done in cooperation with companies 🤷‍♀️ so they also understand they are putting all their staff at risk (and maybe face repercussions)

@clairbear1234

Ай бұрын

I think the modified version of this is. If you are sick, wear a mask and wash your hands. This is what Japan has been doing pre pandemic

How can we sue politicians when they practice medicine without a license? Serious question.

@robin24512

29 күн бұрын

The same way we sue insurance companies for deciding what test they will not pay for until you’ve tried XY and Z . AKA practicing medicine without a license. You just can’t. How is it that an insurance person can tell a doctor what they have prescribe, and what tests to run? It’s all about the $$$$$

@klectickate

29 күн бұрын

Vote vote vote

@CoolWall01

28 күн бұрын

The issue is both sides would be able to sue

@MsEagle20

28 күн бұрын

the problem is they are getting their information from the CDC.

@kellydiver

23 күн бұрын

If I knew, I would sue them for making reproductive healthcare decisions for women.

Frankly, the more you censor information, the more fearful it will make people. Teach people to think critically and how to combat untrue information.

@rossmackay-williams4583

Ай бұрын

Well as a critical thinker why do you think they not reporting all the access deaths world wide of all ages of 10 to 40% not of covid?

@sathvamp1

Ай бұрын

Also in the USA, the censoring of any information is a VIOLATION of the law known as the Freedom of Speech.

@MultiChrisjb

23 күн бұрын

At least we all got the completely true message that the vaccine is safe and effective, and if you take ivermectin you're a horse.

@shapirodeluxe

4 күн бұрын

I wish it was this easy but it isn’t. People can’t be scared of something censorship prevents them from seeing. Fear of the unknown, yes, sure, but if the unknown is a scholarly article then nobody will care. It is also universally agreeable that people should combat untrue information, but who decides what is true? Ironically, it is easy to be uncritical about critical thinking. Things that seem universally good quickly become complicated.

I teach communication classes and this is what I teach it: Disinformation- information you know to be untrue but you share anyway to support your goal. Misinformation- information you think is true but is not. Misleading information- information that is technically true but is taken out of context thus can lead to incomplete/inaccurate conclusions.

@sleepypup

Ай бұрын

This was very helpful 🙏🏼 Thank you

@GoldenMechaTiger

Ай бұрын

Ye this seems like the most useful definition of these words. What Mike talked about here was a bit vague

@HealthyDisrespectforAuthority

Ай бұрын

huh.. my own personal definition of dis and misinformation is, truths that are inconvenient to the administration.

@carlabarrick8538

Ай бұрын

Thank you for this clear distinction.

@eltooyo2

Ай бұрын

Misleading Disinformation: FOXNews.

I am a huge fan of vaccination, but I will not abide public officials lying to me "for my own good" or the public good. You must tell the truth or you lose the right to tell me anything at all.

@indianasb59

Ай бұрын

Can we please talk about the fact that the mRNA ‘vaccine’ is a RNA modulator and NOTHING at all like the normal vaccines. That’s where the conversation needs to start.

@Kriddle1229

Ай бұрын

Well, they can still tell you whatever they want. You just don't have to listen.

@MichaelHorstmann

Ай бұрын

@@Kriddle1229some people would have lost their livelihoods if they didn’t listen, not to mention the social ramifications of being unvaccinated. People were forced in many ways.

@nolancheck1465

Ай бұрын

The only public officials I saw lying were those trying to downplay the pandemic and cancel the lockdowns.

@y0urmumislovely

Ай бұрын

I agree. There will always be those who don't listen to reason. Don't bend to them by making up stories. There are (hopefully) far more people who understand at least a bit about how science works and just want to know the data. This whole situation was a mess.

There were highly knowledgeable experts in their fields who were muzzled and maliciously, viscously attacked because they didn’t march in lockstep. That’s the antithesis of a scientific approach. Everyone lost their minds and the damage to trust in government and medical institutions is both deserved and profound.

@gribbler1695

24 күн бұрын

Maybe because they were giving personal opinions unsupported by scientific evidence. Is that how you believe science works?

@I_Am_SciCurious

23 күн бұрын

@@gribbler1695 they weren’t giving personal opinions and they were from institutions like Stanford, Yale, and Harvard who we know now for certain had it right. They relied on data from studies conducted in Australia, Japan, Korea, etc. You’re watching a video about things we got wrong. We could have had them correct and done far less damage to children, the economy, and society if we had listened to actual experts who had the data and evidence on their side.

@secretagentrandybeans364

22 күн бұрын

Former NBA player John Stockton is currently suing the state of Washington over this exact issue I'm curious what will come out of it.

@husher5142

19 күн бұрын

@@gribbler1695 No the interference has been swift, calculated and intentionally to cover up or profit.

@ChaoticNeutralMatt

16 күн бұрын

​@@gribbler1695 let's say that this is the case, they are still licensed doctors or other professionals who should at least be considered. Why are they saying the things they are? Where is that coming from?

This was not accidental, mistake, sudden.. This was purposeful, deliberate and planned!

@deeprootstv

Күн бұрын

YES you are right

"I was wrong." Three words that every leader, expert and communicator needs to be humble and brave enough to admit. Sure, admitting weakness makes you vulnerable politically but lying will erode your credibility to your allies and to the people you are trying to help. Without trust, you are nothing.

@jonathanrolfsen4656

Ай бұрын

During the pandemic, I followed those who readily admitted when/where they where incorrect, and completely lost respect for anyone who acted infalible in the name of what they called 'science'. Anyone who outright ignores/vilifies dissenting voices is not worth listening to.

@kathleencochrane9698

Ай бұрын

Well stated!

@tinydancer7343

Ай бұрын

This is exactly why we are in this position. Excellent comment!

@drewchristner3750

Ай бұрын

Often most people have no nuance in their opinions so “I was wrong” can mean they think he’s untrustworthy because they have their own bias to their personal abilities. I have been told by people they will trust those who say the same thing through any evidence to the contrary more than those who change their minds with evidence because they perceived it as constantly choosing an incorrect opinion that will always be corrected when more information comes out, and they preferred a static ideology that claimed to already know the answer. It was heavily motivated by religion but that translates that mode of thought to other l aspects of their life like science and politics.

@likwidchris

Ай бұрын

Perhaps more importantly, "I may currently be wrong"

I’m a doctor here in Brazil and it was really hard working in the pandemic, in the middle of the “battle field” and seeing so much fake news and unbelievable political decisions that were being taken.

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

Hey you better mask up in your profile pic, or my 98 year old abuelita might croak!

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

Hey did you know Dr. Offit's buddy "Tony" had his wife as his Ethics Chair? Thank God we had the guy from the 1980s AIDS panic to see us through this crisis. 🙄

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

You know what I love about these jokers, they can defend a mandate on US citizens while glossing over the vax status of THOUSANDS of people crossing over the border.... BTW the Measles outbreak was in a Sanctuary city...but they still think US citizens aren't taking enough 💉 🙄 Maybe the medical industry would have more credibility if we didn't see "Tony's" stock portfolio. Public Health = Money Laundering.

@cherriberri8373

Ай бұрын

@@beneficent2557 Perfectly proved their point I guess... Yikes.

@itoibo4208

Ай бұрын

Next, on Notícias da Raposa: Vaccines are bad, and so is education!

I know someone who works for home and hasn’t left her house since 2020 due to the panic of Covid. This whole thing has damaged people psychologically.

@thewholeworldiswatching

Ай бұрын

Covid (SARS) literally causes brain damage. And it's not gone - look at wastewater data. Sorry you've been fooled by your leaders.

@sathvamp1

Ай бұрын

While I've left my house and have done public errands, grocery shopping etc (when I WANT to) since Covid... I haven't WORKED in person since 2020 since for my field personally, most employers discovered in-person work of that type is TOTALLY NOT NECESSARY (for my field... it CAN be all mostly remote / online and still be effective). So... saves a LOT on gas, car repairs, AND unnecessary risk of viruses (including common cold viruses and flu viruses that were around WAY before Covid). So such realization, used in a healthy manner at least... could be considered an improvement).

@TWForeeever

Ай бұрын

Given that it’s a threat and many immunocompromised people have virtually been locked out of society since others won’t mask or actually disclose their illness, do you blame this person? By stating that this is a psychological issue, you’re implying that their fear is disproportionate to the actual threat at hand

@sathvamp1

Ай бұрын

​@@TWForeeever "Immunocompromised people have been locked out of society since others won't mask"... you do realize [I've heard of] studies showing masks only work about 70% (?). I know that's not any excuse for not taking advantage of that 70% effectiveness, but my my point is: If I was an immunocompromised person who had a low risk tolerance... I would NOT trust that 30% mask INeffectiveness... so even IF EVERYONE "masked up" (and even disclosed their illness IF they knew... this virus VERY often spreads BEFORE symptoms appear FYI)... I would STILL be hiding. In fact, I am not even officially "immunocompromised" and I STILL choose to hide! Well not to an "extreme" but I have gotten out of even long lines at the bank try try again another day if I hear anyone cough in the building. And I've modified my breathing habits when I get near people such that if anyone DOES cough while near me, I'll likely be holding my breath at the moment, and will have time to get away from them.

@ravengale

29 күн бұрын

That’s what they want. “You will eat the bugs and live in the pod, have nothing, and be happy”.

Let’s not forget the world class physicians and surgeons such as Dr. Robert Malone and Dr. Peter McCullough who were, shadow banned and outright silenced due to having differing opinions. In addition, their educational and professional credentials were memory holed.

@gribbler1695

24 күн бұрын

Let's not forget that their opinions are still baseless, false, unproven, etc.

@sleathymofo

24 күн бұрын

Just like Facui’s, the CDC, etc.

@leonardofabbri7930

4 күн бұрын

​@@gribbler1695 like the ones of every supposed experts group or Gov, except Sweden lol

The swiss ministry of health earned a lot of trust by just answering we don’t know because it’s a new thing. Honest and clear. People mostly listened to the advice. Later turned out that some information was wrong which they admitted. The health minister is retired now but got a standing ovation on his way out. Communication was crucial

@virginiamoss7045

17 күн бұрын

Switzerland is not America. Their people, like most of Europe, are mostly well-educated and mentally healthy. US government agencies did say "we don't know" nearly every time they made an announcement or "with what we know now". That is what I, an American, heard. If that one third plus of the US population that only wanted to hear what they wanted to hear by only listening to politicians and others wanting to control that segment, then that is on them. They trusted the wrong sources. Then the question becomes: How did America end up with such a large population of sheep? It had to do with the original people who left their homes in Europe to colonize America. Why did they leave? Many did so because they were forced out; they were unwanted in their communities, even criminals. Australia began with Britain emptying out their prisons, shipping them to that new world. Then, like with America, better people came later, but genetics do get passed on.

@augustuslunasol10thapostle

10 күн бұрын

@@virginiamoss7045 no, it was cultural the ones who left were fundamentalist Christians

@iamtobler

7 күн бұрын

@@virginiamoss7045 Even IF they said 'we don't know' they didn't act like it. They were too quick to mock/attack people who questioned them... They acted too certain many times. About whether to wear masks or not, about how the virus started and where, about how many people were dying. About when regions opened up vs didn't open up, about when schools should open up and how to run them. About what age groups needed boosters and when, about how effective the vaccines and boosters were, about what should be mandated and how, etc etc. They allowed political theatre to enter what should have been purely scientific/medical reasoning...

@virginiamoss7045

7 күн бұрын

@@iamtobler That simply was not my experience as I followed the development of the pandemic over time. The only political theater came from Trump and some Republicans. If you can't tell the difference, that's on you.

17:45 I paid close attention to vaccine trials and research, am married to a doctor and have a biomed engineer for a sibling. Most of our extended family came to us for answers and clarification. When we told them the nuances, they looked to the public messaging, especiallythe contradiction of democrats who were questioning how well it was made like Kamela Harris under trump and them immediately switched up under biden. Because of the hard sell and politicization by the gov, they shifted to wondering if they went as far as lying about the data too, so people that were informed would be tricked too. The government failed us from top to bottom during the pandemic. Thats where the loss of trust comes from

@zarbins

Ай бұрын

Thank you for bringing this up as I remember clearly Ms. Harris, Hilary Clinton, AOC, Nancy Pelosi and many other democrats (the party I am affiliated with btw) denouncing the vaccines, the trails, saying it was rushed to market, explicitly not trusting Project Warp Speed all because it was associated with Trump. They were the original political anti-vaxxers and the left leaning media spread that message until Biden was in office and they flipped on a dime. It was reprehensible because they were busy playing politics, during a global pandemic, that many of them profited off of, instead of being there for the people.

It took long enough for this realization to appear. It will probably take 20 years for trust to be regained. And yet, public health doubles down on compliance (NOT consent) through fear and coercion.

@danielzhang1916

6 сағат бұрын

public health was doing that because people weren't masking and staying home etc, what do they do when half the country was still out and about and getting infected every day, the virus doesn't care about your consent

I lost trust when the CDC bowed to political pressure to change their recommendations.

@ms.donaldson2533

Ай бұрын

I lost trust when my mother was overly radiated and died at Johns Hopkins in 1987. When my father was paralyzed during a back operation and then died of a bowel obstruction while under the care of Johns Hopkins in 1994. HOWVER, the biggest loss was my son in 1989, two days after a DPT vaccine. They don't educate parents today about the DPT vaccine, but they will recommend a D=tap vax.

@Royay

Ай бұрын

What did they change? I never got vaccinated so I didn't bother paying attention. lol

@oliviawolcott8351

Ай бұрын

@@Royay the social distancing recommendations as well as mask recommendations when we still were in a peak.

@MMuraseofSandvich

Ай бұрын

@@RoyaySpecifically, the recommendations were nerfed at the behest of the Iowa governor and others close to the meat packing industry. Language was softened from "You must do this" to "We recommend that you try for this..." Rachel Maddow was about the only one on TV who covered this.

@Royay

Ай бұрын

@@MMuraseofSandvich Oooh yes I do remember this now.

The inability for government and health organizations to simple say “we don’t know but this is the best options we have based on what we know at this time” has done irreparable damage to science as a whole. We may have won the battle, but we are losing the war. 😢

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

The next pandemic will be far, far worse. Not if, but when.

@shakeyj4523

Ай бұрын

That's on you for conflating Science and Politics. Stop doing that, and learn how to evaluate research. Simple.

@duncanchestnut5583

Ай бұрын

Screeching 'trust the science' then asking politicians to ban science they disagreed with tends to form a lot of distrust

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

@@duncanchestnut5583 mass formation psychosis

@timcowley4646

Ай бұрын

I think you are right but I’ve seen the public act poorly when they admit to not knowing and I think this is a reaction to that. People seem to have a lot of misconceptions regarding the certainty of science and the general public often struggle with nuance, even when explained very simply. I think people don’t pay close attention, don’t think deeply, and messages get distorted by the news media. Take for example when the vaccines first came out there were studies that showed the vaccine prevented symptoms. But because they didn’t perform constant tests for viral antigen they weren’t able to say with certainty that they prevented infection. So the scientists said the vaccines are great at preventing symptoms but we do not know yet if it prevents infection. A lot of people took that to mean they don’t prevent infection. So were they wrong to communicate it this way? Should they instead said it prevents infection even though they didn’t know that for version? I wouldn’t suggest that because it’s important to be honest and I think the reason for the messaging was what it was because they wanted people to continue social distancing. Note this was early on when testing was more difficult and the vaccines were more effective and actually dud a decent job preventing infection as they found out with follow up studies of people regularly resting after vaccination to confirm absence of antigen.

I certainly felt reassured watching nurses dance on tik tok after being told i couldnt visit my grandfather

@maddilong135

Ай бұрын

What are they supposed to do? Sit at their computers miserable and overworked? Do you have any idea what they had to go through? Everyone needs a way to cope with things so it doesn’t destroy their mental emotional and physical health. It isn’t just about you. No one could visit family members. A lot of healthcare workers couldn’t even be around healthy family members. You were not the only one affected. Quit playing the victim.

@ChucksSEADnDEAD

Ай бұрын

​@@maddilong135 How do you learn a dance routine while overworked? If I had a bad shift at work and you came up to me to ask me to join a tik tok dance I'd kick you through a door.

@mumbo4210

Ай бұрын

@@maddilong135for example, in England, they shut NHS medical system for anything apart from Covid in 2020-21, so many other illnesses were not treated and people dare still struggling and are dying from this undiagnosed conditions.

@erin6945

Ай бұрын

@@maddilong135 You are completely missing the point.

@abj136

Ай бұрын

The point is, all those medical services should not have been cancelled, and the public shouldnt’ have been scared away from hospitals. Mental and emotional and physical health were destroyed for too many people. It wasn’t worth it.@@maddilong135

I lost trust when natural immunity was never talked about. Which was weird considering they wanted the antibodies through blood donation. 🤔

@nolancheck1465

23 күн бұрын

"Natural immunity" means "getting sick," which doctors would like to avoid since there is a significant risk of debilitation and death. Hope this helps!

@gribbler1695

22 күн бұрын

"Natural immunity" was initially characterized as transient and variable. History tells us that vaccines usually give a much stronger immune response than natural infection. This is because viruses have elaborate ways to turn off the immune response. (Evolution - Viruses that carry proteins that can limit immunity will be more likely to survive.) The Moderna vaccine, for example, has been shown to provoke a durable antibody response, where the natural infection is more variable. Studies later found it to be as good as vaccination. Ref: Past SARS-CoV-2 infection protection against re-infection: a systematic review and meta-analysis (Lancet, Feb 16 2023)

@AnaLucia-wy2ii

20 күн бұрын

Same

@karahupp4589

20 күн бұрын

@@nolancheck1465Read The Real Anthony Fauci

@augustuslunasol10thapostle

10 күн бұрын

@@AnaLucia-wy2ii natural immunity aka getting sick

As a pharmacist, working through the height of COVID was an utterly embarrassing time to be a healthcare worker. The fall out from our government's mishandling of the COVID response ruined more lives than the virus itself.

@usucktoo

Ай бұрын

Typical american. Blame the government. I blame the american jndividualism and selfishness, but go ahead, i guess

@IntelligentProbe

Ай бұрын

Stop it with the fear mongering.

@lindajardee

Ай бұрын

Not fear mongering, truth@@IntelligentProbe

@Kwildcat13

Ай бұрын

@@IntelligentProbeit’s not fear mongering when it happened genius

@USGrant21st

Ай бұрын

Just think about it, how many lives would have been saved if they just did nothing?

The COVID-19 era was just... _messed. up._ 😵‍💫

@llamamama2910

Ай бұрын

Trump suppressing things to stay in power, everything is fine! Don’t look behind the curtain!! And Biden group awfulizing everything and shutting down commerce and human interaction.

@rsalbreiter

Ай бұрын

John Oliver said the history books should just say "it was a crazy time, had to be there, we tried our best"

@Palzahar

Ай бұрын

@@rsalbreiterProbably the best way to say it. The issue is that this came out of nowhere (well, there was a slight period where it was in China before it went everywhere), and everyone just didn't know what to do.

@indianasb59

Ай бұрын

Can we please talk about the fact that the mRNA ‘vaccine’ is a RNA modulator and NOTHING at all like the normal vaccines. That’s where the conversation needs to start.

@lizardsofozz

Ай бұрын

It's still not over. Those of us that are immunocompromised are still fucked. I haven't been to a restaurant, a concert, a venue, the movies, a friends house....since January 2020.

What infuriates me is doctors and healthcare professionals and those with common sense and the ability to think critically would say something "they" didn't like, they would be punished and ostracized and silenced and then a few months later "they" would come out saying the same thing...

@jordanwhite352

Ай бұрын

Such as?

@lecherojr

Ай бұрын

@@jordanwhite352are you serious? Here’s some examples; non at risk populations probably don’t need to vaccinate. Exercise and sunlight combined with a healthy diet is probably the best way to prevent severe cases in non at risk populations, social distancing doesn’t make any sense(that ones now been admitted), not allowing people to be with their dying loved ones is cruel and unhelpful, I’m doubtful of the effectiveness of this new vaccine technology, I’m doubtful that I need to vaccinate, I’m doubtful that masks are effective. There are alternative, cheap, readily available treatment regimens that may be very effective for many people.

@flortho2440

28 күн бұрын

@@jordanwhite352 I've also been waiting for an example but I guess after a week, none is forthcoming. It infuriated ME during Covid that far too many nurses were giving bad advice to people to not get vaccinated and were being listened to due to their title of "healthcare professional". Yes, most lost their jobs but not soon enough and they had far too many supporters. "Healthcare professionals" can be just as stupid as the general public by not following the science to where it leads.

@Bobavakian42069

17 күн бұрын

The classic moment when you scroll down far enough in the comments section of a covid KZread video to start getting the antisemitic dogwhistles

Remember when they tried getting people to get vaccinated by offering free cheeseburgers? Exercise would have been a good recommendation before they even rolled out the vaccines. "It was observed that physical exercise could be a protection factor against the disease in the majority of studies. This protective factor was related to cases of death, improved lung function, and reduced symptoms of the disease." But no. We banned people from even going outside even though it was nearly impossible to spread outdoors. We instead offered them greasy cheeseburgers.

@AnaLucia-wy2ii

Ай бұрын

But they closed gyms, playgrounds, parks and beaches. Where I live, they put caution tape around playgrounds equipment and boarded up the basketball hoops.

@farahng2867

Ай бұрын

In my area, they gave out COVID testing kits at liquor stores! As if depression and addiction wasn’t bad enough during the pandemic…

@TWForeeever

Ай бұрын

What are you even quoting or referencing?

@AnaLucia-wy2ii

Ай бұрын

@@TWForeeever What is unclear in these examples?

@southendbos

29 күн бұрын

You’ve met Americans, haven't you? With the rampant, morbid obesity, do you think they were going to exercise? Further, with all of the comorbidities, beginning to even just walk at that point would have done nothing.

Taking a larger perspective, I think there are too many people who don’t understand that there’s no such thing as a perfect solution. Everything is risk of harm vs probability of benefit.

@leonardofabbri7930

Ай бұрын

If there's no such thing as perfect solution, you can't sell something as undeniable truth and treat anyone who has critical thinking and pose some question as a lunatic deserving to be cancelled and stripped of own social sphere. It's called fascism and was made this time by the supposed progressives always caring about freedoms and rights. They showed their true colours. You are free and you have rights only if you act like they want.

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

The key element is Voluntary Informed Consent, all the mea culpas in the world will NOT make up for Being Complicit in Economic Coercion.

@mellie4174

Ай бұрын

Exactly! This is because of poor science education.

@matthewsilva8617

Ай бұрын

Well sure, if your goal is profit, then you don’t want to kill the virus, and you just let it mutate and be more contagious yet less deadly. That is what happened yes. Then they turned around and said “speed of science” when they supposedly tested it fully and spent billions of tax dollars funding this circle jerk..not perfect but definitely killing the virus will help stop the spread lol and that’s not what they wanted

@firefly10241

Ай бұрын

@@beneficent2557 AGAIN it is consent and there are choices. You not liking the choices or not understanding the choices doesn't mean its not consenting.

Remember, folks: people matter more than opinions. We’re going to agree and disagree - and that’s okay! Things are going to be said that aren’t perfect - that’s okay too! It’s okay to be human and take something different from this message than someone else. Thanks Dr. Mike for tackling a very sensitive and volatile topic with professionalism and integrity.

@RunBayou

Ай бұрын

It is not okay to agree to disagree when one side is captured by a cult like adherence to government/pharma propaganda. One side is straight lying. If one side is saying "poison your children for no tangible benefit" and the other is saying "no," you don't agree to disagree.

@immafox1496

Ай бұрын

Hello, I'm writing here in hope to reach people and Doctor Mike: the comments are being censored and I'm not able to respectfully share my experience. This is really concerning, I trust that Doctor Mike is not aware of this because I know it goes against everything he believes in

@CircumlunarFeasibility

Ай бұрын

@@immafox1496he will stay the propaganda line because he doesnt want to lose his careeer, i warned him about these so called vaccinations years ago and he blew me off. IF you want real information, i suggest you check out Dr. John Campbell, and Brett Weinstein for actual non big government controlled information.

@USGrant21st

Ай бұрын

what do you mean "agree to disagree"? -- KZreadIsKillingComments, no disagreement allowed

@jaslady22

Ай бұрын

@@immafox1496 Yep, mine were taken down, so I noticed that as well!

Doctor are supposed to be trained in nurturing patients “autonomy” and not have a “paternalistic approach” approach to patient care. I think transparency by doctors (especially from a government agaency) is king. Great talk y’all

“Trust the science” when even the doctors don’t know the science. Baffling to say the least.

@foxinthesnow1917

2 күн бұрын

Science is the practice of disproving evidence. What is understood based upon this practice is constantly changing.

So much of the distrust for me could have been avoided if the CDC simply said “I don’t know” instead of saying that masks 100% do not work at the start of covid then did a complete 180 and told everyone they HAVE to wear a mask then later said, “well they’re not really effective”. By the way take this vaccine we developed and has less than a year worth of testing done and you only need to take it once. Then a year a later “by the way take this seasonally like a flu vaccine”.

@rosalynalicea968

Ай бұрын

You could not have said that any better.

@markrobinowitz8473

Ай бұрын

CDC never said you only need it once. Flu vaccines are annual. Most vaccines require more than one dose.

@byuftbl

Ай бұрын

Yeah the flip flopping on telling you what to do can be hard for people to trust. But at the same time I think they were trying to give the best info they had at the time. You don’t know what you don’t know….but they could’ve done a happy medium like “hey we think at this time masks don’t help, BUT we aren’t sure. You could still wear one if you want, we’re just not sure how well it helps” I think overall at the start of the pandemic, we weren’t sure of anything because with anything new, we don’t have all the facts or answers so everyone was going off what we thought we knew at the time, but then we learn we’re wrong or were misunderstanding things.

@georgewang2947

Ай бұрын

I think the authorities did say it with appropriate uncertainty. The problem is once it gets repeated through the media and on social media and turns into policies at the local level, what was a "recommendation" becomes "Fauci is forcing us to..."

@HateNeverCeasesHate

Ай бұрын

That's science buddy. Science changes it's mind, based on the available evidence and understanding.

I wish people stopped using the terms "my, your" truth. Truth just simply is (or should be), if you need to add adjectives to it it's NOT TRUTH, it's an opinion, point of view!!!

@fennyellis3366

Ай бұрын

True...truth is always subjective

@USGrant21st

Ай бұрын

what is truth? - Pontius Pilate

@USGrant21st

Ай бұрын

@@fennyellis3366 truth is not subjective, truth is an abstract notion (abstract logic), and we live in real world, where any abstraction is at best an approximation of reality. Now, which abstraction better approximates reality -- that can be a big argument.

@tamsolo1584

Ай бұрын

Subjective "truth" is not truth.

@fennyellis3366

Ай бұрын

@@tamsolo1584 In science, it is.

They weren't 'wrong.' They lied.

@duckman896

14 күн бұрын

Yeah this is bothering me, everyone has memoryholed covid guidance as "they were wrong. But at the time didn't know better" when that is literally not the case. They knew better but lied to the public to try and convince everyone to do what they want.

@joshuameeks3689

8 күн бұрын

That's a loaded accusation. Not saying you're wrong or right. But a wide margin act like they're pros in any field with just a quick internet search or listen to folks talk about any given subject. The only true fact is "we don't know." Saying anything else with such certainties is muddying the waters of an already silted up river and doesn't help. We need to remember to focus on what we know and go from there.

Imagine a scenario where a young, healthy individual who has already recovered from Covid is mandated by the state and government-funded institutions to receive two to three vaccines to attend college. This is profoundly unjust, irrespective of one's stance on vaccination. Such a policy is not justifiable and evokes strong feelings of anger. Consider how you would feel if professionals in a different field, such as mechanics advising on car brakes, were to dictate government policy with the same level of chaos and uncertainty as seen with Covid. Would you accept being mandated to drive with your children in a car equipped with new brake technology, despite doubts about its safety and efficacy? The mishandling of the Covid situation, coupled with experts gaslighting the public and shifting blame for their failures, is utterly infuriating.

@AnaLucia-wy2ii

20 күн бұрын

Well said 👏 👏 👏 👏

@slopedarmor

11 күн бұрын

Are you now getting mad over a imaginary situation?

@augustuslunasol10thapostle

10 күн бұрын

Your analogy is bullshit edit it out

@annemarie4008

9 күн бұрын

@@augustuslunasol10thapostle No 😊

As a member of the public, I appreciate the nuanced message on vaccines. I hate when public health officials act like the public is stupid and can't handle the truth so they tell an untruth instead of explaining why this is their recommendation and how they expect that recommendation to work.

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

You Mean Mandate.... Also opinions are reserved for the Fully-Boosted.

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

I for one love Dr. "Tony" and his Ethics Chair Wife. We should give him the Nobel Peace Prize and a fresh litter of beagles.

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

Hey did you notice how this video has no timestamps? It's almost like this faux "mea culpa" was rushed out at the behest of someone's lawyers 💀 It must be nice to pretend to larp as an authoritative source while simultaneously avoiding all legal accountability.

@CptVein

Ай бұрын

@@beneficent2557 You have a mental issue. You should get that checked out.

@ivermec-tin666

Ай бұрын

Offit is propagating nuanced propaganda. There is no comfort in that. What he is actually doing with his fake apology for nothing in particular is doubling down on the use of social psychology and propaganda tools to move the public, becasue in his view, the public are profoundly ignorant and stupid, and incapable of making rational informed decisions about their personal medical care. So, he is committed to stripping you of your right to bodily autonomy and informed consent. He really hates you, but he hates you in a nuanced way.

To be fair, the Tuskegee experiment still has a lot of impact on trusting government agencies.

@ihatenwo

Ай бұрын

as it should be lol

@nadiamagdalena2712

Ай бұрын

I think about it every single time I'm at a doctor's office or my children.

@gloriouslumi

Ай бұрын

Unreasonably. Equating a clandestine government operation during a fundamentally racist era of our history to a once-in-a-generation virus with every single pair of eyes in the world on it is objectively wrong. Doing things in the dark is far different than doing it with literally every single researcher, scientist, doctor, and medical organization in the world collaborating and sharing information.

@WMDistraction

Ай бұрын

The government mandated a whole new set of then unprecedented ethics rules and committees that never existed until then after Tuskegee.

@carrierichardson6619

Ай бұрын

​@@WMDistractionClearly that did no good.

@7:30 “very well tested” in the context that the general public should be reassured that it’s safe even though they are apprehensive about it being new is a bit misleading. Being that it was discovered in the 60’s and 70’s, used in trials in the mid 2000’s, but never given to humans on a wide scale until Covid-19 without knowing the full scope of side effects both short or especially long term is not only irresponsible but alarming and what caused me to pause to question everything. To each their own though

As a nurse educator, I drill my students on medications they are administering before we even walk into the patient's room. It's intense but they often appreciate it because they're more confident when answering patient questions. Thank you for mentioning that confidence from the practitioner plays a key role in the patient's trust.

@mcz4251

20 күн бұрын

I was bothered by the fact that the Moderna MRNA vaccine didn’t even come with a package insert. I’ve never seen that.

100% if they had been transparent and not assume we were too dumb to notice some things, I think the state of our country would be very different aside from the COVID related repercussions.

combining politics and science/medicine doesn't clean up politics, it corrupts science/medicine

Can you please follow up with a short on what myocarditis is, and why it happens as a result of virus’ & vaccines please? Thanks :)

@gribbler1695

Ай бұрын

Myocarditis is cardiac tissue inflammation, and we don't truly understand the mechanisms of this after mRNA vaccination. But analysis suggests it is due to an overproduction of cytokines by the immune system. It is not dependent on antigens (vaccine spike proteins) that is being pushed by miscreants.

@sekischro5093

Ай бұрын

@@gribbler1695 does it cause long covid?

@rossmackay-williams4583

Ай бұрын

@@gribbler1695 Why are you not talking about all the access deaths all over the world of all ages that are not being reported. Access death of 10 to 40% more than normal....why are youu not talking about this??

@BrokenGlass2024

3 күн бұрын

He can't because his channel would be cancelled.

"In order to get people to get it, we had to...we made statements that just weren't true"

I learned all I needed to know when politicians and celebrities violated the very decrees they publicly shouted from the rooftops.

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

"C'mon man" sayeth pedo Joe.

@polyticks8453

Ай бұрын

so, even celebrities cant escape anti-intellectual bias. interesting choice of words, dude

@d-rot

Ай бұрын

That stupid people exist in every cohort? Or that people make stupid mistakes? There's nothing definitive that anyone does that makes a sweeping generalization anything other than a logical fallacy.

@xe2014

Ай бұрын

I know what you are saying and agree. “Just look around and you can’t deny” yet I saw no such thing here in the inland empire of California….

@matthewsocoollike

Ай бұрын

That’s stupid. That’s like saying if someone smokes while saying smoking is bad it means smoking isn’t bad. Learn some critical thinking skills

I am glad you are allowing comments.

@jaygio

Ай бұрын

Oh, so you don't know then...

@jaygio

Ай бұрын

That this platform ls

@jaygio

Ай бұрын

Automatically

@jaygio

Ай бұрын

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@jaygio

Ай бұрын

Too many hot topic words together

Now that the pandemic is over, i can say that Im 20 (was 16 when pandemic arrived in Serbia in March 2020), nobody in my household got vaccinated and noone of us got sick. We did wear masks and gloves whenever we went out, i chose to continue online school even when it wasnt mandatory and what to say, we went through it. Maybe we had it without symptoms, i dont know, we never got tested. Both of my parents worked with a lot of people, but never they had any sympotms and neither my brother and i had it. This is just my personal experience

@leonardofabbri7930

4 күн бұрын

It always been a plandemical orchestra.

A good friend of mine aged 39 died last March. He hadn't had Covid but he had three jabs to stay employed despite my warnings. He thought I had jumped on some QNON bandwagon and asked me if i was an antivaxxer. I said NO I'd had all my vaccines but wasn't going to take this one as it was untested. March 4th last year he sat down in a chair to read and died. His wife went to talk to him but he had just gone without even a sign or noise! It was heartbreaking but an autopsy showed massive blood clots to his heart and brain. His funeral was horrible and people who had once shunned me are now wondering if they have made a huge mistake. I don't feel superior or even say see I knew it because it was terrible the way they put people through mandates and put pressure on them

Could the lack of trust in the medical community have anything to do with the fact that pharmaceutical companies are publicly traded on the stock market and raises the concern that their priority is to their shareholders and not the patients. Raising cost of insulin and epi-pen for example.

@evilsharkey8954

Ай бұрын

That’s definitely part of it

@coolbreeze5683

Ай бұрын

That's part of it. I think distrust also comes from people's individual experiences with the medical system and the experiences of people they know. There are people who get sick and go to a doctor only to be told it's all in their heads and are dismissed. They later find out they actually do have a health problem and they were let down by their doctor.

@deanmcdougall5331

Ай бұрын

That’s just an America issue.

@laner.845

Ай бұрын

@@deanmcdougall5331 well yeah, we're talking about America's reaction to the pandemic. It makes sense we're talking about American pharmacology.

@funsizedi88

Ай бұрын

Also the fact that since 1986, vaccine manufacturers have been immuine to prosecution. They all decided together and told the govt they would stop making vaccines, unless they passed the law to protect them. Since the US Govt didn't want to risk them following thru on their threat and having to purchase vaccines outside the US, they gave them everything they wanted. Now, why would vaccine manufacturers do that, if they didn't know that their products were dangerous? No other type of medication is protected from prosecution like that. Also, look at how many vaccines were CDC Recommended before 1986 and after 1986, they doubled the amount of shots. Yes, there is a fund set aside for children who are vaccine injured- but it is nearly impossible to actually win that court battle. They only gave into that caveat of the law, since they knew the cost of lawyers was cheaper than paying out lawsuits. It is heartbreaking to read the stories of the families who's children have been severely vaccine injured and continually get denied in court, even tho their children have been diagnosed (sometimes by multiple doctors) as vaccine injured. These manufacturers value money over people, which is why there are meds that cost tens of thousands of dollars a month. An inhaler w/o prescription coverage is $300-$600, even w/insurance people have co-pays in the 100s.

As a nurse who has worked in hospital before during and after covid, i honestly think significantly more people died from not covid itself but its affect on healthcare system (i.e. people who's diagnostic imaging or scopes were delayed several months meanwhile they had aggressive cancer, surgeries being delayed,in patients who had major surgery or illness and could not have family come in and resulted in a failure to thrive leading eventually to death, suicide/drug overdose due to the loneliness/isolation covid caused, decline especially in elderly due to isolation at home, missed signs of things like sepsis due to working extremely short at times(back when if you were exposed you had to isolate, there were times where half our nurses couldnt work because they had to isolate just in case or if they were positive but asymptomatic), patients havingto wait several months to get in to see their doctor even reguarding more serious things where that wait time could have saved them etc etc). All of those in my opinion resulted in a lottt more deaths than the actual virus itself.

@vallivergano239

Ай бұрын

All for a virus that had a 98% survival rate

@kaitlinjohn3625

Ай бұрын

Thank you for your efforts In your opinion was there also an over reliance on ventilators and resting which caused COVID patients to continue to decline? I have heard nurses say that with other ventilator patients they were always encouraging position changes and movement etc, keeping the ventilation to the absolute minimum so the body is encouraged to pick itself back up but with COVID apparently many were just ventilated and left to rest. Do you have a perspective on that?

@Dan-xo9ly

Ай бұрын

When you tell any vulnerable person to stay home with a respiratory virus until they cant breathe (aka no early treatment) you a practically guaranteeing they will come close to death's door.

@calicat1996

Ай бұрын

@kaitlinjohn3625 generally speaking it can be harder to get someone off a vent once they are put on. If patient can maintain adequate gas exchanges without that would definitely be most ideal. Once you get vented especially if you're already medically frail or have multiple comorbidities it can almost be like a death sentence

@kaitlinjohn3625

Ай бұрын

@@calicat1996 that echos a lot of what I heard from others. Some even said that they felt pretty certain they could have worked a patient back to health but because of COVID protocols (like minimum contact/movement etc) they basically came in each day to see the person declining. I can't imagine the heartbreak and stress. I have a friend who was let go from the hospital. She worked to the last minute when they sent her home because she was not certain the vaccine was her best choice. She was only upset because she loved helping her patients. She didn't have any anger or anything. But now I am angry for her. I am angry because I have watched her second guess herself and her value, I have watched her family adjust to the change in income and I have now watched as nurses who are vaccinated have been encouraged to work their shift after testing positive with COVID because of the staff shortages while she is testing negative but not allowed to work because she didn't get the vaccination. She is terrified because her own observations were a massive uptick in miscarriages and stillbirths in people vaccinated. That's anecdotal and personal so I would never expect police or general population changes as a result but I respect her hesitations and her dedication to helping others and I have no respect for rules that left her out of a job while taking a measurably contagious nurse and letting them work because they have been vaccinated. It just doesn't make sense.

I didnt get to say goodbye to my father while he was dying from cancer during the height of covid. They government can never give me that back.

@SternalJet

Ай бұрын

Sorry to hear brother. That certainly could not have been easy.. hope you are well.

@TexasChoadHouse69

Ай бұрын

@@SternalJet I've been doing but I don't think I'll ever not feel incomplete due to them taking that away from me.

@E_Don

Ай бұрын

​@@TexasChoadHouse69who is "them?" Define.

@TexasChoadHouse69

Ай бұрын

@@E_Don the people who made the rules in the state of New York that said I couldn't enter the hospital as my father was dying and threatened to arrest me had I tried.

@gomezg8497

Ай бұрын

I hope your pain goes away. Everyone is gonna die some we will die and nevee get to tell by to our loved ones and some will die with their loved ones right beside them. Regardless of whar your faith was, do good at regards of ur dad. Donate in regards of ur dad, pray if u believe. Thats gonna benefit him more.

There was a significant amount of politicization of COVID during the pandemic. This is what made people mistrusting of the government and of medical institutions.

@nolancheck1465

16 күн бұрын

It wasn't doctors who made it political.

@BrokenGlass2024

3 күн бұрын

It was politicians who made it political

Hearing before Congress, June 15, 2000. Topic: conflicts of interest and vaccine development. "At our April 6th autism hearing, Dr. Paul Offit disclosed that he holds a patent on a rotavirus vaccine and receives grant money from Merck to develop this vaccine. He also disclosed that he is paid by the pharma industry to travel around the country and teach doctors that vaccines are safe. Dr. Offit is a member of the CDC's advisory committee and voted on three rotavirus issues, including making the recommendation of adding the rotavirus vaccine to the Vaccines for Children program."

@Patmorgan235Us

27 күн бұрын

So bold of you to post this without linking to the underlying document.

One thing I noticed where I had lived and online was that the political discourse made it extremely hard to have civil conversations and ask questions of peers around you. Almost any hesitancy to take the vaccine or questions about it's safety in children was treated met with social pressure, pushback, and no answers on where to get more information. Of course meeting peoples worries with vitriol only pushed those with questions away and made them more distrusting. Though I did get vaccinated, I was one of those individuals who had a lot of skeptism, and I can greatly empathize with those who were fearful.

@SarahSoLovelyXo

Ай бұрын

I did not take the vaccine. I'm so glad I stood my ground. But you're right.. even asking a simple question was met with so much hate from armchair doctors

@jordanwhite352

Ай бұрын

I think the biggest problem with that is that there's a big difference between legit questions about a vaccine and being an antivaxor. The more bigger problem this country which is there is no nuance for discussion. There's only extremes. One of the reasons why most people don't know anything about science because everyone treats all data as absolutes because we learned that from dealing with US law and religious books. So science it does not deal in absolutes but we live in the society that only thinks an absolutes. You either are pro science or anti-vax. You can't be a scientist that has some legitimate concerns about a vaccine then thus wants to see more trials or more clarification. It just doesn't happen.

@TheGismono

Ай бұрын

@@jordanwhite352 -- "legit questions" who is/was the judge on that? mob rule is the answer to that. So no, I don't you understand. People got threat's by the question "Why, explan that to me" and not just following along. And yes, that was what has happening, I happen to me.

@patricasmyth4359

Ай бұрын

One thing that should be mentioned is that these were NOT traditional vaccines. They are mRNA drugs that generate an immune response. This was a big experiment practiced on billions of people with little public discussion. People were fired and ostracized for simply asking questions. Now we are hearing of possible bad outcomes of exposure to the spike protein (Pfizer) and these people still cannot admit a possible mistake. They only admit to miscommunication. P.S. The rotavirus vaccine IS a traditional vaccine. It is not in the same class as Pfizer’s “vaccine”.

@aesopstortoise

Ай бұрын

@@jordanwhite352 Your statement that, "there's a big difference between legit questions about a vaccine and being an antivaxor", destroys the possibility of any meaningful, or even civil dialogue with those who disagree with you. Without that you can't have any real nuances, because you don't accept that people who disagree with you may be honest, well-meaning, intelligent and well informed. Try it for a thought experiment.

I think they were talking specifically about the Covid vaccine when they said all the other countries except Canada target high-risk groups, but as a Canadian I just wanted to mention: Our annual flu vaccines used to be targetted to high risk groups, I think partly because we didnt have the volume of vaccines, or the capacity to administer them, to the full population. With Covid, in BC at least, our vaccines were rolled out to high-risk people _first_ as a priority, but were ultimately made available to everyone.

@kdn142

Ай бұрын

I think you spelled ‘mandated’ wrong.

@sydneyyoung7352

Ай бұрын

@@kdn142 People could choose not to get them, but they were not permitted to be in businesses where other people would be exposed to them, even if the business was their workplace. I think it could reasonably be argued that it was effectively mandatory, but if I recall correctly it was never _technically_ mandatory.

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

I love how you froze the bank accounts of truck drivers. Your Fidelito PM is an inspiration to the world.

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

@@sydneyyoung7352 at least most authoritarian regimes like Russia have the balls to be overt with their heavy-handed policies. I knew a PHD student who was failed in retaliation for refusing to get the vaccine. One of his professors threatened to punch out anyone who watched jordan peterson in his classroom. Your effete government's constant victimhood cudgel is pathetic. Trudeau belongs in prison.

@sydneyyoung7352

Ай бұрын

@@beneficent2557 first: I don't have that kind of power. The Canadian federal government froze the back accounts of 57 individuals and organizations, some of whom were truckers, to end blockades at Canadian border crossings and the gridlock of parked commercial trucks and trailers shutting down part of Ottawa (for I think over two weeks?) That sounds like a very non-violent way to pressure the convoy to disperse, to me. The protesting truckers did not have to get vaccinated, but there were very disruptive public safety measures they had to comply with if they refused, which would have made it impossible to do the exact same job in the exact same way they had pre-pandemic. While Canadians had some privileges taken away during the pandemic in the interest of public health, adults do have bodily autonomy and may refuse vaccines.

This podcast is why we need scientists and doctors and other people (hello, media!) who actually have people's best interest at heart. The question is how does one find those professionals? Ideally, it would be social media...

When this man said "work with companies" I was like bro. Companies before covid during and after did not care about workers. Especially the "essential" workers. If you aren't profitable for them, you are disposable.

@soapdude1

Ай бұрын

Depends on the company. My company gave everyone unlimited sick days if you tested positive for Covid.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Idk who said it, but I agree.

@EinsteinsHair

Ай бұрын

I looked that up thinking it might be Shakespeare, or similar. The French Abbot, Bernard of Clairvaux, said something that translates as "Hell is full of good wishes or desires" in the early 1100s. In 1670 "Hell is paved with good intentions" was a known proverb. The current version was listed in a book of proverbs in 1855.

@lesliewolfe7643

Ай бұрын

@@EinsteinsHair interesting 🤔 I like people that actually seek out knowledge, just for the sake of knowing. That's right up my alley. It's funny how many popular sayings end up being a misquote of something else.

@ipickedanamealready6953

20 күн бұрын

I don't think they had good intentions and that's the real problem. They are already getting ready to roll out a bird flu vaccine in they can get away with it.

The answer to your question of how you stop misinformation is not to censor it. We need to teach kids in schools to be critical thinkers. Not just to take what everyone tells you as fact. How to evaluate information and trace it back to sources. Don't take someone's regurgitation of the info as fact. Go as close to the source as possible. If you ban the conversation, it will cause mistrust of those causing the ban. If an organization wants to be trusted, they must tell the truth and over time they will build a trusted image.

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

There’s a fascinating report called “The Firehose of Falsehood” put out by RAND. Worth a read. Short version - if people are overloaded with options they will fall back on what their peers want to hear and stop caring about what’s true.

@deanmcdougall5331

Ай бұрын

Problem is conspiracy theorists, especially anti-vaxers don’t have the capacity for critical thinking or source assessment.

@cherriberri8373

Ай бұрын

This is what I say all the time, but the issue is that it will never happen unless an incredible complete overhaul of how the internet works and the education system as a whole happens. And something needs to happen to give people the free time to pursue knowledge about this- people aren't gonna just stop having opinions about things they don't know about, so they need the time to research info if this ideal future were to come about realistically... so realistically it just won't happen.

@nomandad2000

Ай бұрын

It’s a slippery slope. Like his RFK example where 84 kids died and 5500 people got sick with measles.

@CptVein

Ай бұрын

How do you plan on doing that when kids are homeschooled or going to religions school? What's the plan until only kids who were taught critical thinking are left? Cuz right now, there are still a lot of people who arent kids, who do not possess critical thinking and have an effect on others. What about them?

Hi Dr. Mike, I am a recent graduate who wants to become a certified chemical engineer. I have been watching your videos since the COVID pandemic and I just want to say THANK YOU because have been a huge help to everyone who needs information on health, culture, medicine, myths, etc. I have learned plenty by watching your videos and I was also fact-checked by them on some things I thought I knew. I would like to, in the future, become a KZreadr who makes videos about industrial processes, more related to chemical production, refineries, oil transformation, and also on safety prevention (CHAZOP, HAZOP, FMEA, risk assessment, etc). Nowadays, with all the incidents occurring in chemical plants and other facilities, the need for medical information is important more than ever. I do not know if my comment will ever be seen, but I would like to know your comments on that (from a medical standpoint). Not only the risks but also the medical causes and effects of said accidents. Thank you!

What people do not realize is that the public panic they created caused some people to become so traumatized that they, to this day, are not able to go out into public for fear of getting sick and dying. I am one of those people and are working through this and get out more than just to the doctor. Seniors being told by authorities that stay inside or you will die instantly causes panic and trauma for some.

Maybe you should have some of the Dr's who spoke up and out on the responses and risked their careers by following data over pharma/gov orders.

@firefly10241

Ай бұрын

Some of the doctors were crazy AND NOT following the science. Its why some nurses got fired as well as doctors. If your not going to pay attention to the updated science THEN WHY be in the medical field? ANYBODY in the medical field also have to have vaccines every year because they are around patients. ITS NOT new. Even going to college they make sure you are up to date before even getting in the program.

I think the media and the government need to stop treating the general public as though we cannot understand complex issues. Transparency and honesty are the best ways to help our public be informed and *participate* in the solution.

@jackierubinstein548

Ай бұрын

exactly, who are them to tell us what we should be doing when we know how to take care of ourselves

@BygoneT

20 күн бұрын

The public genuinely doesn't understand complex things that's why they don't say thing as they are.

@dharmaslife

20 күн бұрын

Yes and I will still make the best personal decision for me thank you very much

@katepeterson7544

11 күн бұрын

Except the general public does NOT understand complex medical information or this wouldn’t have turned political. It would have ONLY been a public health issue and people would have vaccinated themselves and their families. Instead we had every lay person acting like they understand immunology and pandemics. Thanks to politicians….

@viktorgabriel2554

9 күн бұрын

@@BygoneT so you are saying you are stupid in Northern America since my government told us everything

I really think both of you should debate the other side, refusing to do so, while the other side seems eager to do so, does no favors for your arguments. Debate is a fundamental part of the scientific process, if strong, valid, non-partial scientific studies exist to back up your view, why be afraid to debate?

@nolancheck1465

25 күн бұрын

Studies and research are a fundamental part of the scientific process. Debates are just entertainment.

@BrokenGlass2024

3 күн бұрын

Because they can't debate the truth

Having already had two very mild cases of Covid, I felt that the risk to me was minimal and therefore the only true reason I would be getting the vaccine was for political or economic (my job) reasons. I refused on principle to inject anything into my bloodstream for any reason other than medical. It had everything to do with government overreach. Though in general, I think the vaccine is good and those who need it should get it.

Honestly it's really frustrating that "go back to work" is prioritized in a country that doesn't have free healthcare and where employers are predatory toward their employees. Go back to work when you're actually feeling better. It took me a month to get over COVID the second time. I'm still coughing. If I had to be driving to work it would have taken longer.

@sathvamp1

Ай бұрын

Actually... SO many people do NOT realize that healthcare is NEVER overall "FREE". Even where "healthcare ITSELF" seems "free", it is STILL COSTING those, even SAME, people, either money from their OTHER sources (like upfront out of their paychecks)... OR it's costing OTHER people money even if it's not costing money for certain people. SOME such people do realize that, BUT I always wish to clarify the semantics so they don't forget how things actually work.

@aaronpascall7827

Ай бұрын

Were you 'vaccinated'?

@peter65zzfdfh

29 күн бұрын

​ @sathvamp1 I don't think you realize how misled you are. For instance, the US spends more TAXPAYER money per person on healthcare than any other country. People THEN spend more employer money on healthcare than any other country, and still in many cases have higher deductibles than any other country. While countries with heavily socialized healthcare result in people seeking treatment *earlier*, when it's *cheaper*, and negotiating better rates with pharmaceutical companies so they pay less total for the medication. So overall FREE doesn't mean completely free, but it does frequently result in substantially LESS money being spent, even by the taxpayer, and results in life expectancies nearly 10 years longer than the US where it costs more than any other country in the world, at all levels. It's not a case of just shifting the cost from the individual to the taxpayer, it's actually just cheaper (for literally EVERYONE) AND more effective. The lack of 'free' healthcare in the US for many people actually results in more of other people's money being spent on emergency care that need not have even been an emergency if those people had access to healthcare earlier. The private system also results in people paying more just in deductibles for the same medications vs other systems where the taxpayer pays it all at a much much lower rate..

@Nicogs

22 күн бұрын

Le me guess you are living in an third world country? Like what did u expect?

@sathvamp1

22 күн бұрын

@@Nicogs Uuuhhhh actually I assumed he was talking about the USA (I live there).

"How do you debate someone like that?" You don't because you can't. You can't debate with willful ignorance anymore than you can reason with crazy. Good call to walk away from that one.

@cebruthius

Ай бұрын

Just cowardice.

@agwarden

6 күн бұрын

You bring the studies in hand and show it during the debate. Really not difficult.

In the 80’s, my parents forgot to get me vaccinated against the measles because we were moving to another country. A year later, I caught it and almost died. I went legally blind in one eye as a result and lost half my body weight. So, measles is no joke and it boils my blood when people say “I’d rather have my kids get the measles than have the jab.”

@user-vh3sb4mg3s

Ай бұрын

That's fine for you but that doesn't mean I have to be vaccinated. It's your personal decision. If you feel so strongly about it, be upset with your parents for being so forgetful.

It is so hard to trust your doctor nowadays… I had a doctor for my daughter that told me to give her omeprazole forever practically… and i read that shouldn’t be given for long periods of time. I know we have to do some research but that should be the duty of the doctor.

I really appreciate Dr. Mike's pragmatism and general ability to understand this topic from multiple angles, he's great

Dr. Fauci said to not attend baseball games, wear a a mask, and socially distance. He then promptly went to a game, did not wear a mask, and did not socially distance. It was a horrible look, and there is no question as to why trust is completely gone.

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

IDK, I personally felt reassured when I found out he married his Ethics Chair.

@0my

Ай бұрын

He gets paid royalties

@maddilong135

Ай бұрын

He probably just wanted a better seat and didn’t want to get there early

@mjouwbuis

Ай бұрын

Also he never advised to take a good daily dose of vitamin D (good for immunity in general, and airway infections in particular) but does take it himself.

@mellie4174

Ай бұрын

​@@mjouwbuisbecause studies show that it gives zero benefit unless you are deficient. In people who already have a normal level, which is most people, it has zero effect!

My first vaccine dose of Pfizer was awful. Heart palpitations going wild and it was quite painful. Should have to just gone to emergency at the time in hindsight but i just went to the doctor's the following day. Thankfully these palpitations calmed down when seeing a doctor but I was quite concerned i might be getting the heart condition issue related to the vaccine. The dose also came with aching muscles, which was not fun

@peter65zzfdfh

29 күн бұрын

One of the problems with this is that nocebo is a huge impact. If you tell people that this is a possible side effect *more* people will experience it. The symptoms are easily confusable with moderate anxiety.

@BrokenGlass2024

3 күн бұрын

​@peter65zzfdfh😂😂😂

Did not stop infection or transmission. Phizer executive admitted to European Parliament was not tested to verify it stopped 5:35 infection or transmission. Yet some still say it was helpful. Really?

Public health has always treated its audience as idiots. They never trusted their audience with the strict truth, and tried to suppress disagreements with their narrative rather than holding an open discussion. They never tried reporting real science, which amounts to as much information as possible. They only acted on behavior change, not education.

@kekort2

Ай бұрын

💯

@ms.donaldson2533

Ай бұрын

Public Health was CREATED at Johns Hopkins in 1917 by Rockefeller funding and then again in Jerusalem in 1918. Johns Hopkins is still a "Public Hospital" meaning you do NOT need insurance to be treated and they have financial assistance that ranges from free to low-cost health. ELIMINATING every NATURAL born bloodstream in the world.

@labtechtech

Ай бұрын

"Public health has always treated its audience as idiots" Well? Were they proven wrong? 😂

@Johnnyiswhere

Ай бұрын

@@labtechtechexactly.

@X_iCjay

Ай бұрын

Same point my point exactly

All you need to know about the pandemic is who made out with the most money. That will give you almost all the answers you need to understand it.

@amyalewine

Ай бұрын

Dr. mike never mentions Event 201. He never mentions the WBAN. He never mentions Covid symptoms are the same as radiation sickness.

@lindazeisky3845

Ай бұрын

Exactly 💯

@user-dd3gl4rl9q

Ай бұрын

For a novel virus you need a novel way to launder taxpayer $$.

@user-ul2wl9ss5x

28 күн бұрын

Yes. Follow the money and find the truth.

@Nathanielhiggerson66

26 күн бұрын

You mean the people who told you vitamin C or other ”natural” bs would cure it? they made a f-ton of money scamming and spreading disinformation

Did he say there were 12 groups out there that were better funded and able to get information out than the federal government? Or did I misunderstand that statement. (Which I am willing to believe). Why do people struggle to understand that forcing people to do anything is the best way to get people to lose trust?

@gribbler1695

Ай бұрын

He was talking about the so-called disinformation dozen, RFK Jr being one of them.

@CrAAAstastic

Ай бұрын

@@gribbler1695 and they are better funded than the federal government? I don't necessarily care who was being spoken about but rather the phrase "better funded and able to get information out" ... I just don't understand how any group could be claimed to be better funded than the US gov't who literally controls what information could even be seen during the pandemic (and has had to backtrack on a lot of said "misinformation")

@gribbler1695

Ай бұрын

@@CrAAAstastic Are you kidding me? The govt has no control over the garbage that is put on social media and fake news sites, which are responsible for a huge amount of false and damaging information that still stacks up.

@ipickedanamealready6953

20 күн бұрын

They definitely weren't better funded. Most of them lost money or carrer opportunities because they were doing what they believed to be the right thing. Which was to warn people about the harms they were seeing and what they found in the Pfizer vax trials. The trial info that they had to sue for because the fda didn't want the results getting out for 75 years. Sounds super safe and effective if you ask me

@BrokenGlass2024

3 күн бұрын

​@@gribbler1695disinformation dozen, MSNBC, CNN, Fox news and other newspapers?

The biggest issue in my opinion was the fact that they decided to give a one-size-fits-all recommendation for the vaccines. People didn't consult their own personal medical professionals and neither did they need to in order to get vaccinated. Instead people went to TV personalities, Late night show hosts, and politicians for their medical health information, not their personal health care providers. I would never have gotten vaccinated from covid if I knew more about these "vaccines". After my second dose of Moderna I was hospitalized for a week because of myocarditis. I would have preferred if they either spread out the doses or lowered the second dose for me (or at least gave different recommendations for different cohorts). I was also required by my university to get vaccinated if I wanted to teach there, so it was either starve, move back in with my parents, or get vaccinated.

26:14 I wish air quality had been pushed harder. Improved air quality in public spaces would have been a net good in a bunch of different ways and it wouldn’t have infringed on anyone’s bodily autonomy. If we’d put air purifiers in every classroom so schools would stay open that would probably have helped lower rates of all respiratory infections and would help with the (increasingly regular) wildfire smoke pollution. Heck if done right it could have even been great for the economy!

@meghanlazerson997

Ай бұрын

It was and is in Germany. My kid’s classroom has a monitor and they frequently open the windows. I’m at the university and windows were opened for 5-15 minutes every hour (yes even in the winter).

@donotcare330

Ай бұрын

100% agree. We ran UV air cleaners around the clock at our house. Public spaces should have been REQUIRED to of had UV air purifiers every X amount of square feet.

@rl42382

Ай бұрын

My kids are in private school and put air purifier every where they reopened school in fall 2020 to get students back to school

@leighfei

Ай бұрын

​@@rl42382 My law school also redid the entire air filtration system before fall 2020

@axileus9327

Ай бұрын

You can’t make money on that.

The fact that one and only one "expert" throughout the entire ordeal was regarded as the only credible source of information (while everyone else was being shunned) was questionable.

@indianasb59

Ай бұрын

Can we please talk about the fact that the mRNA ‘vaccine’ is a RNA modulator and NOTHING at all like the normal vaccines. That’s where the conversation needs to start.

@NeuroJ12

Ай бұрын

Bingo! Everyone else with a different opinion was not only disregarded but was canceled and shunned by the medical community.

@evilsharkey8954

Ай бұрын

There were other experts out there who weren’t talking out their backsides or pushing unproven treatments. They just weren’t in the public eye as much. Fauci did what he thought was right, but he’s just one guy. They should have had whole teams poring over all the news, publications, and even anecdotes to search for anything they might be wrong about or missing to investigate it.

@jeffchastain2977

Ай бұрын

We only had one expert who was willing to present information that disagreed with what the Oval Office wanted to hear.

@Gabriel_F4924

Ай бұрын

people need their leaders and who were you gonna trust otherwise if everyone is right.

The first big issue with Covid messaging that I remember was the message that "masks won't do any good." I remember thinking there's no way they know one way or the other at this point. Then, when they flipped and recommended and mandated masks, there was a HUGE loss of trust that still has not returned.

@Stephanie90m

Ай бұрын

I remember that too! That was the message late 2019 and I remember people saying it's a virus in China, no way it will come over here

@wolverinero79

Ай бұрын

They only said masks don't help because they were worried that they'd run out of masks in hospitals, so they lied on purpose to save the supply. Ironically it was only later discovered that masks really don't work that well in public situations (they work great in labs and hospitals with trained professionals, but not the public) at a time when they'd convinced everyone to wear a mask...which caused so many other problems such as child developmental delays.

@JohnA...

Ай бұрын

They also leave out the MAJOR part of the mask topic. That the only masks they are talking about are the N95 masks that has a static filter and are only supposed to be used for a short time before replacing them. The only reason "masks" were going to help at all with something like covid was because of that static filter, if they aren't that kind of mask they do no good, they also do ZERO good if you don't use them properly to start but you didn't see anyone speaking up telling morons to stop wearing them off their noses.

@ellim1585

Ай бұрын

I remember thinking, because it came at the same time as “hospitals don’t have enough PPE”, that they were saying that to try and keep ppl from going all toilet paper hoarder on masks

@jessehill9357

Ай бұрын

Mask hoarding was very much a thing at the time and there were rumors that wearing a mask would pretty much give you immunity from the virus. So my impression was that they were saying that masks by themselves wouldn't be effective.

Frankly, I started to have serious doubts about what the government was advising around June 2020 during the BLM Riots ... when rioters seemed to be given a pass on masks and the 6-foot rule by the politicians and the media. I am not an Anti-vaxxer ... but I have serious questions about how the Covid vaccine was created and deliberate downplaying of its side effects by the politicians and media.

@jonny555333

Ай бұрын

I mean, the side effects are relatively rare and minor compared to the side effects of covid. Without a doubt, the benefits of the vaccine outweighed the risks.

@danielzhang1916

6 сағат бұрын

I had no reaction to both shots, just a little soreness, took a nap and was fine, I read comments online that some people were out for days, but I didn't feel anything, many family and friends had no reaction either

That was a phenomenal conversation to watch, especially as a medical student. Terrific display of understanding nuance in medicine and giving advice on conveying important health measures to the public despite ever-changing data. I loved every second of it!

I disagree with many of the points that were made here, but I am grateful to see them being discussed in a logical manner and with an appreciation for why the pushback happened which isn't laced with hysterics and insults. This is a major step towards understanding and mending the rift that abuses of power like the pandemic created.

@sepehrheidari8352

Ай бұрын

What is it you disagree with

@TanyaSapien

Ай бұрын

@@sepehrheidari8352 That's bait.

@pata-tata557

29 күн бұрын

@@TanyaSapien only if you want it to be. Looks like an honest question to me

98% of the comments under this video are saying things that would have been censored and/or harshly criticized during the pandemic by the government, media, and social media platforms. That right there is a huge reason why trust was lost.

@Gal.pal.

15 күн бұрын

YES

@Gal.pal.

15 күн бұрын

Never forget, it was becoming totalitarian

This is probably my favorite episode yet. Two really compassionate, educated, and honest individuals. Thanks so much!

I swear, the Covid-19 era was just felt like a multi-year long fever dream….or acid trip.

@tdssupport5064

Ай бұрын

"was"? a third of the country just got it in Dec-Feb.

@schex9

Ай бұрын

Felt like I was living in Nazi Germany

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

I shook Covid off after a long weekend. (Assuming the stupid PSA test was accurate).

@beneficent2557

Ай бұрын

@@schex9 at least the trains ran on time. These jokers can't do anything.

@beefstu84

Ай бұрын

​@@schex9 I must have missed the part when people were rounded up and executed?

If you think people who were seeing it in front of them couldn't deny it then you haven't really been seeing what is going on. I volunteer as a firefighter emt in a rural red county. Other EMTs who were picking up and transporting people who were dying and died of COVID were absolutely still denying that it was going on. Their other arguments as to what it was were non-sensical or even just outright contradictory. They would recognize the 'covid cough' and then upon hearing their neighbor they transported died deny it was COVID. They SAW it, but the media they consumed and the politicians telling them were trusted more than their own eyes.

@missZoey5387

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@belfieldsucks

Ай бұрын

incredible... just wow, how can someone not trust their own eyes.

@Jkjoannaki

Ай бұрын

Yeap, pretty much. Always been thay way, especially since 2001

@kathleen8092

Ай бұрын

So many wild deaths in ICU. Denial until the end. On Bipap, refusing intubation, gone by dinner. Almost once a week for a couple months.

@evilsharkey8954

Ай бұрын

@@belfieldsucksBecause they trust their favorite pundit, politician, talk radio host, etc. more.

Thank you for holding this podcast. It's shocking to hear the inside scoop of what really took place behind the scenes of the pandemic era. Furthermore, I'm so happy that y'all discussed how misinformation and oversimplification has negatively impacted the lives of many. Most importantly though, I love how you constantly opened up the space to recognize that science is truly ever-expanding and that there will never be a 100%. I really hope that there comes a day when people will come back to trusting science and being ok with the MOST right way rather than a RIGHT way. You're amazing 👊

I was sat in a doctors surgery back in the days (pre xonvid)when you actually could! I remember a poster saying how they cant treat a virus lol anyone else remember these posters?

@anniroc1101

24 күн бұрын

Yes, doctors always said best thing to do was support the immune system to fight it…. which is probably why frontline doctors were advocating for vit C, VitD, zinc and various off label antivirals antiinflammatories until they were banned from doing so… to eliminate competition for the highly profitable EUA “vaccine”

This is coming from a completely scientific point of view. I’m a long term nurse that works with a worldwide population. I’m not sure if the breakdown of our medical system or what part of covid has impacted my patient population but I have seen accelerated cancers, accelerated Parkinson’s, and other rare autoimmune diseases. I honestly have no idea why I have been seeing this trend but I hope our medical community has the opportunity to heal so we can work together to improve our medical system and the way we disseminate information. The pandemic has challenged my love of medicine. I really enjoyed the content of this interview I will be interested to read the research in the next ten years.

@mac.8184

Ай бұрын

I felt deeply for the medical staff, doctors, nurses, during COVID. My heart broke repeatedly for all of you. I worked with special needs kids in the school system and that is a story of it's own. It certainly showed the worst and best of humanity. 💜

@judymills2362

Ай бұрын

The Trend? Its the jabs 😮

@sdzielinski

Ай бұрын

You are not the only medical professional who questioned the science and the health institutions during and after the pandemic. Reusing masks! Wearing garbage bags! Replacing well-tested vaccine technologies with the novel mRNA technology!

@ktakashismith

Ай бұрын

You had a ~2 year period where people were avoiding hospital visits like the plague (forgive my choice of words). Of course you're going to suddenly see people coming in with more advanced disease when they've been given ample reason to avoid preventive screenings or in-person visits to manage/investigate symptoms of chronic diseases.

@kp50065

Ай бұрын

@@judymills2362 I am honestly open to any research but have noted things over these last few years in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals that I hadn’t seen previously. I would love to see more research into the virus I just wish it wasn’t such a political position because most healthcare workers just want healthy patients and to provide good guidance. The mistrust and division this has caused just makes me so sad to see. Being over a facility when this hit I keep hoping the ripple effects to stop which I understand is naive and simplistic.

I almost died from COVID in 2021, so this was a very interesting video. Glad to see Dr. Mike having a real conversation about it.

@yensteel

Ай бұрын

Two of my colleagues had their parents die as soon as they caught it. They could have retired and lived a few more decades.

@vampiric4real

Ай бұрын

bahahahaha no you didn't

@danusdragonfly6640

Ай бұрын

@@vampiric4realSo COVID is not real to you but *vampires* are?

@astawolfe

Ай бұрын

​@@danusdragonfly6640 they're a troll, ignore them

@journeywithnichole986

Ай бұрын

Curious if you received any vaccines?

I might get backlash for saying this, but I never got my vax or boosters. I am in no way anti-vaccine but I felt like I was watching an awful game of political tug-of-war when everything was going down. I caught COVID once in 2021 and again this January. I got tested immediately once I felt something was off and followed all mask/isolation recommendations. Seeing post-vac complications in young, healthy people such as myself still has me on the fence about it. If I’m going to get a mild infection either way why take the risk of some other complication occurring? I would rather reserve those resources for high-risk individuals. Like it was stated in this interview: the vaccine was supposed to reduce hospitalization and deaths.

@bruha321

Ай бұрын

dogs are dumb

@chaleej5571

Ай бұрын

The vaccine DID reduce hospitalization and deaths. Truth is truth. That's just one of the reasons why the "Red Wave of 2022" crapped out so completely. Six figure deaths in one specific political party because so many of them were bad at science and fell for the Russian/Chinese bots on the internet like complete suckers...

@chaleej5571

Ай бұрын

"I felt like I was watching an awful game of political tug-of-war" The funny thing is, both Biden and Trump completely supported the vaccine. Trump wanted desperately to take credit for the rapid development but the inbreds supporting him decided it was garbage...

@thewholeworldiswatching

Ай бұрын

You realize Covid itself causes even worse complications? It's literally SARS. Also, our vaccines are terrible and do not protect against any of this, only death.

@danielzhang1916

6 сағат бұрын

I had no reaction to the shots at all, just took a nap and was fine, a lot of comments online said they were out for days, most people didn't have complications, I only got covid once in 2022 and was fine after 3-4 days

The trust was already on the block and they will never get it back. How do you communicate it? Stop trying to complicate it! Be direct be honest be transparent

@nolancheck1465

20 күн бұрын

They are! But doctors and scientists are surrounded by a bubble of politicians and reporters who communicate the doctor's message, and that is where things go wrong.

@augustuslunasol10thapostle

10 күн бұрын

Except your Americans are known to go hog wild when a medical institution says “ i dont know” because your general population has sooo many misconceptions about science

Oh these comments gonna get spicy. Grab the popcorn 🍿

@Doge-kq7bc

Ай бұрын

First and Fr

@A_Fabulous_Killjoy

Ай бұрын

True. 🍿

@georgiasomething2064

Ай бұрын

Not me actually eating popcorn rn

@RideforZeke

Ай бұрын

Real tho

@Lyn_Marie_

Ай бұрын

I’m SO ready !🍿🍿I’m also hungry.

The pandemic really showed deep, serious problems with our media communication, with how people dictate policy, with how the public views science, and most importantly with our capitalist culture and our medical system. Same goes all over the world: I think if China and the US weren't like the way they are, we wouldn't have a pandemic. The profit of the plutocrats and party line triumphalism always comes before human lives.

@yensteel

Ай бұрын

It became politicized. Much harder in the US than other countries.

@Wth969

Ай бұрын

Agreed with yours points. Chinas lack of care for their population and vanity related to being embarrassed over allowing an outbreak to spread did as much damage as crack pot US politicians

@Wth969

Ай бұрын

If both countries would have been run by real adults covid might have not even happened at the scale it did. Especially if the us cdc and Chinese orgs would have actually worked together to control the spread in China when it was discovered

@Alexander42099

Ай бұрын

Guess who made the virus smart guy.

@mondise

Ай бұрын

@@yensteel in South Africa as well just a mass number of citizens refused treatment and this was before the vaccine, however those that refused going to hospitals, i tell you survived of course they treated it but at home and those that went for treatment didn't and that really was what opened the eyes of many, making them refuse vaccines but because the government wanted numbers so they exercised their power and took away the basic right to education if you were not vaccinated you were not allowed access to higher education. Whether you believe me or not covid was planned and they knew these vaccines were going to cause more harm then any good. In this world nothing is as what it seems, we are all being toyed with

The one great thing about the Ken Ham/Bill Nye debate was that both sides were incredibly kind and respectful. They were so respectful of each other’s ideas, even though they disagreed, I love watching debates where people don’t get negative, don’t attack, and don’t get overly emotional other than passionate about what they believe in. So it was a really great debate to watch.

If you want people to trust the medical profession, then maybe don't act like you know more than you do. Also, don't deceive, bribe, coerce, or otherwise manipulate people into doing something that they really do not want to do. Just a thought.

@jordanwhite352

Ай бұрын

But there are a lot of people who know more than you do. It might just be you have an ego problem?

@giga_architect

Ай бұрын

@jordanwhite352 they certainly didn't seem to actually know more than me when they told me initially that a medical product would guarantee that I cannot become infected with a certain infectious disease only for them to have to walk that back a few months later. In fact, that was a pattern I discovered time and time again. Information that I was being given by ostensible professionals and experts turned out to be less than accurate months later. It wouldn't be such a big deal, except for the fact that people's livelihoods, careers, and reputations were destroyed over all of this horrendous advice as government officials ceded their authority to unelected bureaucrats. Also, similarly qualified experts with different advice from that being offered by the "approved" experts were ignored, suppressed, and smeared. There's no excuse for any of this.

@pata-tata557

29 күн бұрын

@@jordanwhite352 mate, you want everyone to lay down their rights just because the governmental agencies coercing them might "know more than they do?" Why have any rights at all?

@jordanwhite352

29 күн бұрын

@@pata-tata557 and again, this is exactly what the right wing did during age hell before they knew how age was transmitted every conservative Christian promoted and war masks because they're only interested in a disease when it's an interest to their bullshit and not when it actually matters.

@peter65zzfdfh

29 күн бұрын

@@pata-tata557 I'm fine with people having their own rights as long as they're not impacting others. That ends when your rights impact my rights. It's the same thing when untrained individuals who *think* they know more than the professionals want everyone else to lay down their rights because of their *rights* which are based on nonsense.

Paul Offit is the real deal. You couldn't have a better guest on this subject.

@gamerbrat885

Ай бұрын

unless you are talking about cigarettes lol

@jmt3996

Ай бұрын

​@gamerbrat885 what's his stance on cigarettes? I couldn't find any articles/videos with him talking about them.

@bosoxdanc1

Ай бұрын

?@@gamerbrat885

@jiaswan22

Ай бұрын

@@gamerbrat885are you mistaking Dr. Offit with Dr. Gundry? They have a passing resemblance, but totally different people.

@alynunez4421

Ай бұрын

@jiaswan22 I agree! He does look similar to Dr Gundry BUT Dr Gundry is a quack! The interview he did with Dr Mike & Dr Ballardo (sp?) was so difficult to watch. Dr Mike & Dr B were so Patient even though we were all thinking the same thing (that he is full of 💩 basically & just trying to sell books). Dr Offit is totally opposite! He’s very science based!

Man. Dr. Mike talking about not getting together for thanksgiving reminds me of CDC and safe sleep recommendations WHICH I WAS ACTIVELY A PART OF. When I had my first child he would not sleep on his own, in any way shape or form. I knew what the safest sleep environment for him was, but WTF do you do when your child doesn’t sleep in that environment? I had to research the deep corners of the internet to figure out what the heck to do, because what we were doing was waaay less safe than “safe” cosleeping.

@myaccount3402

Ай бұрын

Children don't want to.sleep on their own...it creates anxiety issues most carry into adulthood...

@SaraWilsonBasturk

Ай бұрын

At some point I figured I was more likely to kill us falling asleep behind the wheel than my baby was to die during cosleeping with precautions.

@AnaLucia-wy2ii

24 күн бұрын

The US is the only country that pushes the narrative that cosleeping id inherently dangerous.

Thank you Dr Mike for bringing us very informative information as well as your own spin to your channel we love to watch you in Mississippi!

This mess was due to a whole confluence of forces : Distrust of the Chinese government A particularly volatile election year Modern tendency to place science above every other consideration (discussions regarding mental health and social risks were ignored) Opaque reasoning given for policies (aka infantilizing the public) Vilifying those who expressed reasonable concerns (see politics) Mixed messaging (e.g. Taking a run alone on the beach is bad, but public protests in large groups is fine, as long as you're outside. Or masks bad, masks are important, you need the right masks, now you can wear any type of mask, now keep wearing masks even though the science that you're supposed to trust says it isn't actually doing anything....) (once again, politics) Social media Etc.

@peter65zzfdfh

29 күн бұрын

No one ever said protests were fine. The problem is lacking the capacity to stop them. Protests here were stopped during outbreaks. And runs alone on the beach never were, you could do that any time during the pandemic. One major thing that happened here was a major IMPROVEMENT in most people's mental health. (Yes there are exceptions). Part of that was due to being able to work from home and better government support. Suicides dropped significantly. Masks they just learned over time that they were more effective than they thought a poorly fitted mask would be.

@BrokenGlass2024

3 күн бұрын

​@@peter65zzfdfhactually that's false

As someone who watches lots of debates, the best way I've seen to deal with people jumping from wrong statement to wrong statement ("Gish Galloping") is to simply ask a question that you know the answer to, that you know they know the answer to, that disproves something they said. And don't progress the conversation until they answer it. i.e. "the sky is red, the sea is purple, the grass is blue" "Ok so then why is it that in all of human history it's been depicted as blue, blue, and green?" edit: i'm a new grad RN who uses this and Motivational Interviewing when trying to get people to slow down and discuss one thing at a time

@clairbear1234

Ай бұрын

This is very interesting, where did you learn this. I’d love to read a book on this kind of thing

@BeeWhistler

Ай бұрын

You say simply but that would be incredibly challenging for me. But then, there's a reason I hate debating.

@clairbear1234

Ай бұрын

@@BeeWhistler simple doesn’t always mean easy.

@Jkjoannaki

Ай бұрын

Colors categorization is just that and the human eye receptors and brain work differently from human to human. We only can give a general light wavelength of each nouns mentioned to say what they are, what they are is different than how people perceive it. One is objective to the subject, one is perception of the subject.

@juliabuonincontro8617

Ай бұрын

Yeah the iconic example of this in public discourse these days is the question “What is a woman?”

I learned more in the first 20 minutes of this video than in the last 4 years. I can't believe this is 2 hours. Fantastic interview!

@hackerkiller2131

Ай бұрын

That’s the beauty of looking back.

@mimosveta

Ай бұрын

go back to cia basement troll

@BombshElle_7

Ай бұрын

​@@hackerkiller2131Facts

@triciacofman4716

Ай бұрын

Don’t believe everything said in this interview.

@GagnierA

Ай бұрын

@@triciacofman4716 Care to elaborate?

I agree with most of what is being said. My only disagreement is when he talks about not debating RFK Jr. The reason you debate someone is not always, or even mostly, to convince that person. You're debating them to convince the audience of your side of the argument. If you aren't seen as trustworthy and you only talk to other people who agree with you completely, then people will continue to see you as untrustworthy. If you instead talk to and debate people who have radical viewpoints that differ from yours and you can show that their view is clearly wrong, then you make yourself seem more trustworthy and them less trustworthy. At least to the audience. Sitting in an echo chamber makes you and your position look weak.

@zarbins

Ай бұрын

Very well stated and I would love to see that debate. I appreciated the conversation with Dr. Mike, especially the nuance around approach, transparency, trust, etc.; but there is also a lot unaddressed.

@trevinbeattie4888

25 күн бұрын

I disagree. A debate only has value when the participants acknowledge the basic facts of a subject and are discussing in good faith the nuances and aspects they feel are consequential. If a participant is not acting in good faith, does not recognize well-established facts, and/or has little to no knowledge of the subject matter, then you find yourself in the position of having to counter a slew of logical fallacies and falsehoods which is exhausting and a waste of time. It’s better to ignore such people than to take them seriously.

@dylanharnettmarshall9700

22 күн бұрын

Yet you assume he's telling the truth about the reason he won't debate him. That's not necessarily the case.

@augustuslunasol10thapostle

10 күн бұрын

While you are right I wouldn’t want to debate someone like ben Shapiro because he isn’t interested in reality of facts only his feelings

Highly recommend Dr John Campbell for his incredible work and vast knowledge on Covid and vaccines. Brilliant truly brilliant.

@gribbler1695

9 күн бұрын

Garbage and misinformation from the nurse.