The Unbelievers Q&A Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss & Penn Jillette
On Stage, Gus and Luke Holwerda, Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss and Penn Jillette.
Event Producer: Stephanie Guttormson Operations Director, RDFRS
Event Producer: Robyn Blumner Executive Director, RDFRS
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Richard , you open my eye, i was a theist but now i am proudly a new atheist.
@luciferdiablo2509
4 жыл бұрын
welcome
IMPRESSED with Dawkins' wife knowing that she hand-paints all of his ties. Astonishing and beautiful!
@ophiolatreia93
3 жыл бұрын
Seems weird paint on a tie
@NachoMan154
2 жыл бұрын
But behold. Don´t make the Painting too Tieny xD
@spybubbble
2 жыл бұрын
That’s so sweet! Too bad they’re separated now.
Religious nuts particularly hate Lawrence Krauss because he says things like "forget Jesus, stars died so you could be born." Which is a powerful statement.
@chrisa4800
9 жыл бұрын
+Eru Illuvatar Part of the problem is how atheists and theists talk to each other... If I call you an idiot are you going to listen to what I have to say?
@BruceWayneofCamelot
9 жыл бұрын
Chris A If you have something constructive to say, yes.
@mercedesbenz3021
8 жыл бұрын
+Eru Illuvatar That's literally fucking awesome. That statement made me stop for a moment, dude, *_shit!_*
@livingvancouvertime2723
4 жыл бұрын
@Randian Winn The amount of fuel runs out, isn't that obvious?
@bevanhartley4090
4 жыл бұрын
@@livingvancouvertime2723 he said the purpose of the star's death is not evident, not the cause of the star's death (fuel running out). The original quote sounds a bit like the death of a star has a purpose or intention to give rise to us. Whereas we are more of a by-product
richard dawkins open my mind to reality if it wasn't for him i don't think i would have come so far on my journey to atheism, i didn't think anyone thought like me till i found out about him
@OSRS_KQs
8 жыл бұрын
+greenytaddict I would love a 1 on 1 discussion with Dawkins. He has repeatedly hinted at a deeper understanding of things that he knows people just aren't ready to hear. Listening to him describe phenotype properties involved in evolution is so deep and multidimensional. He obviously has a tremendous depth to his logic which has uncovered things that almost nobody is ready to grasp.
@blacklyfe5543
8 жыл бұрын
Who is him?
@darkside69rawkitty1
8 жыл бұрын
I can honestly relate with everything you've said. It was spot on
Somebody get that man a tripod, I felt sea-sick watching this.
Is the camera man drunk?
@Dazzletoad
9 жыл бұрын
Patrick Carta Omg I am half way though the video and only now just scrolled down and saw your comment, which was literally, word for word, my exact comment that I spoke at the beginning of the video. Hahaha ^^
@DocumentaryHub
9 жыл бұрын
Joseph Taggart LOL :D
@dudesayingthings
9 жыл бұрын
Patrick Carta I think he's jst trying to make it more dynamic, but i still Lol'd :D
@acetate909
7 жыл бұрын
It's hard to focus when your mind is constantly being blown.
@tyroga
5 жыл бұрын
Late reply, but looks more like he forgot his tripod and spent the even handholding the camera... poor guy.
Super! This stuff energizes me when I'm feeling down on the world.
Looking forward to watching this later on when i got time, some of my favorite people :)
What a beautiful moment was the part of Richard's tie!
Knowledge is knowledge,why cant we see it as such.Knowledge based on science,reason and evidence is just about right but knowledge of self upon which all knowledge rest is equally valid.Knowledge of self has no religion,its all about you/i.without this you/i everything is meaningless even if they exist. Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss are great people,we must learn from them.They have so much to contribute and i have indeed learnt from them esp Richard Dawkins..
Richard Dawkins is so adorable @ 29:10 - I wish I knew him personally.
@candeffect
5 жыл бұрын
Dawkins supports 'mild' pedophilia.
@tag.1835
3 жыл бұрын
@@candeffectyea sure and he works for illuminati etc
I hold my lighter for Christopher "The Hitch" Hitchens.
@ironhazes
5 жыл бұрын
You're holding (up) a lighter......? Care to explain? Unless this was sarcasm, in that case: touché.
I was delighted to hear Dawkins give a nod to the great Carl Sagan!
That was nice. You know, a lot of these talks are better than the movie.
Just stellar!!
What an awesome gift for Dawkins from his wife.
Lawrence Krause is so authentic!
Thanks for sharing.
We do not all have a sence of awe. I live.
18:45 LOL!!!! "Mr Teller" PJ: "Doesn't matter to me..." Awesome
@saerain
9 жыл бұрын
You mean his name isn't Pennand Teller?
@realjuancho
9 жыл бұрын
LOL...
Nice little talk. I wish the camerapeople could have decided on their zooming. Having the zoom constantly go in and out even while focusing on one person talking is distracting.
I came here for Dawkins and Krauss, but I loved Gillette's comment that we should respect people. I loved that comment.
WHY IS NO ONE CHECKING ON/CARING FOR THE CAMERAMAN !!!!! HE IS OBVIOUSLY HAVING A SEIZURE !!!!!
@misshazel2106
5 жыл бұрын
Faustivious 🤣🤣🤣
@eulyssey
3 жыл бұрын
😂
Mr. Teller that was great
entrancing video
Dawkins is spot on at 46 mins
Dawkins has interesting thoughts on why north America still has such a problem with the persistence of religion. He suggests that it might be the free enterprise, competing nature of American religion, in contrast to the boring, imposed from above, state religions of Europe.
@mrkrabappleson
8 жыл бұрын
+Breandán Mac Séarraigh State sponsored religion seems like AT LEAST an equal "problem" to me. Europe has religious PUBLIC schools too. Combine that with the fact that the U.S. officially ejected religion from government LONG before Europe did along with the fact that Europe still has the fucking "Divine Right of Kings" nonsense and the U.S. comes out looking pretty damn good. We also can't forget that some of the largest most outspoken atheist groups come from the U.S.
@breandanmacsearraigh6938
8 жыл бұрын
I'm full of admiration for Jefferson's separating of state and religion and yes, Europe still hasn't caught up. We don't really have 'divine right' of kings anymore. But my point was that although we have many state-sponsored religions in Europe, people don't seem to take religion as seriously here as many people do in the southern states of the USA.
@FactStorm
3 жыл бұрын
His theory on this holds weight..it makes sense imo
32:17 ... It is remarkable to hear an atheist materialist like Richard Dawkins stating that he wants to know/discover the "nature" of consciousness ... This statement of his is on the one (ideological/philosophical) hand rather enigmatic and on the other hand rather promising. ..... Who knows what the future may bring ? ... One thing is certain ... Science and philosophy (!) are fascinating and exciting ... :)
The idea that our politicians are among the brightest of us has been increasingly difficult to support. Certainly they have often been the wealthiest among us, but ignorance still abounds in their ranks.
Excellent documentary film by two extremely talented film makers. This Q & A session was hugely entertaining and informative. However, please, please, RDFRS can you find some people at the venues you visit who know how to hold a camera still. The camera movement is annoying and detracts from the concentration one must exert to take in what the speakers are on about.
the question at 14:45 that richard was addressing they were talking about natural selection and being able to predict the future of a species undergoing natural selection i think a simpler way of answering that then the way dawkins put it is thats basically what artificial selection does to a degree it shows potential and of course very real paths a species can go down.
It's a good video, but the quality is horrible. There's probably plenty of videographers out there that would shoot it for free.
I love that the advertisement prior to this video was an "explore God" commercial 😂😂😂
@troublebunnie
9 жыл бұрын
I'm also clicking it so they have to pay an Atheist 😁
@dangagne3347
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a big reason why I pay for YT Premium. Can’t tolerate opportunistic advertising such as your example.
@troublebunnie
3 жыл бұрын
@@dangagne3347 well this was before YT premium existed 😁 but I get it
I fucking love these people.
This video is from April 2014
44:00 Dr. Dawkins points out the problem with using the word spiritual. Can't be spiritual when you don't have a spirit.
@saerain
9 жыл бұрын
Sam Harris would take umbrage because he prefers another definition of "spiritual", but I think that's a real disservice to people who really do mean something related to a spirit.
@NoWay1969
9 жыл бұрын
Kyle Rybski I agree. I like Sam a lot, and agree with him often, but I don't like that word at all. It just creates confusion.
what if we change it from "the theory of evolution" and just start calling it "the model of evolution"
@tilemacro
3 жыл бұрын
Then you validate the idiots who dont know what Theory means.
@haghendowdy4750
3 жыл бұрын
@@tilemacro but you reduce the amount of new idiots if we're only teaching the kids the "model of evolution" so eventually the old idiots die off and the new adults have only learned evolution as a measurable truth which is poetically- exactly how evolution works6
@onekerri1
9 ай бұрын
Because it's only a theory, as in, not proven.
Can I ask what they mean when they say that human consciousness was an 'accident'? define the word 'accident' - was it not meant to happen or were they just referring to how nearly impossible it was that we are, let alone living in the universe, but also have required this intelligence, knowledge, awareness and Consciousness? Human evolution is so fascinating and Beautiful. I am so grateful to live and especially in the same time line as these guys and also the wonderful Derren Brown :-)
The mud dauber is truly an extraordinary creature.
Questioner: We HAVE human minds, we don't need to simulate them!
Anyone else learn more from this than they did from the movie?
I played the video and thought that was Paul Heyman in the middle.
about the AI question: Biological Brains evolved in an environment in which their goals were set to eat, mate and survive in generel. Even if you use evolutionary algorithsms to create AIs this would be a form of breeding. so the only goal of this evolution would be "to be liked by humans" which could translate to "appear as humanlike as possible". The need to survive for example is nothing that puffs into existence in a Mind when the factor of dying has never had an influence in his evolution.
the host sold some books to Joey in Friends show. 50 greens it was
0:46 that literal fedora tip
What film are they talking about?
@elizdonovan5650
4 жыл бұрын
Saw on a reply to another post that it was called THE UNBELIVERS. Try Netflix. ☘️🌝🌲
@giorgostzormpatzakis4455
4 жыл бұрын
It is also on youube: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kX6TudakpLfgdaw.html
@seangraham5143
3 жыл бұрын
@@elizdonovan5650 I have never heard about the "be-livers" movement, but I "believe" I would be on the UN-be-livers side of things. After all, I couldn't even imagine someone wanting to be a liver. Just saying😉
Is one logically inconsistent if one condemns factory farming but condones vivisection ? Given his disapproval of the former (see R.Dawkins podcast “Yes Animals Feel Pain too”) I wonder what his stance is on the latter. I’ve yet to see anyone ask him this question.
I love that he addressed the word theory. It’s should be string hypothesis!
What could life look like in the future? What creatures could evolve in 100 million years, for example, given what we know about life on Earth and the principles of evolution? Will similarly strange and unusual creatures evolve in the future? I believe in the Darwinian theory of evolution, and I have many questions, including apes today, after millions of years, what will be their evolution?
Love the audio, but camera work is suboptimal
52:00 recode of evolution sys 10 (Mac) req see blind watchmaker-climbing Mt probable [biomorph]
Really looking forward to seeing this movie, as far as I can tell it isn't available on UK Netflix yet. What is extremely encouraging to see is the groundswell against religion. In an ever more connected world we see that the problems that face us have their roots in religion which after all has been the guiding 'wisdom' behind our ruling classes for millennia. We desperately need to move on and religion will no longer be able to suppress science despite the best efforts of the media corporates and the neoliberalists. I'm quite sure the Pope would like to silence Dawkins as he did Galileo if this were possible today. We face major problems and our very survival is in doubt, causality is certainly in religion and belief in the supernatural because we don't commonly adopt rational discourse and behaviours. The greatest evil (I don't use the word lightly) that religion does is to delude people and rob them of reason through fear - it is the tool used to instil faith through abuse of the imagination. It is corruption on a global scale.
I’m sorry, but the appalling camera-work started to give me motion sickness and I gave up at about the 20 minute mark. Up to that point the content was excellent.
For Science’s sake can someone tell me which film are they talking about?
To add more to the answer to the last question from the biologist teacher about the Biomorphs program, here are some working re-implementations of the original Dawkins' program, in various languages. Some are ready-to-run apps and do not require you to be a developer in order to run them. There is even an Android app! Non-exhaustive list: Linux / Windows executables: www.rennard.org/alife/english/biomgb.html Online app: www.emergentmind.com/biomorphs Another online app, written in JavaScript: mtzynb.github.io/ (program sources at github.com/mtzynb/biomorph) Program sources in Python: gatc.ca/projects/biomorph-evolve/ The "Blind Watchmaker" app for Android: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alec.blind.android&hl=fr&gl=US
EXCUSE ME WHAT FILM ON RADIOHEAD?
what movie are they talking about??
I don't know how you can ascribe to the idea that man knows enough about the Universe to BELIEVE in science rather then just using it to navigate along with all things we experience and call yourself "unbelievers". And yet here are Dawkins and Krauss holding to the idea that humans are just another form of life and yet so special that we can trust our understanding of the Universe to other humans.
@mercedesbenz3021
8 жыл бұрын
+Irish Druidess Hmm, well, looking at the computer/phone you typed this one- humans have a pretty stellar track record due to their "understanding universe." We make three basic assumptions: 1. The universe exists. 2. We can learn something about it. 3. We can follow models of predictability. These seem to work, my friend.
@irishdruidess7391
8 жыл бұрын
I guess it depends on what one believes is important as to how one views our "track record" if we look at accomplishments we find the things we have been successful at. If we think about what our purpose is what the point of existence is, we have done very little to progress. It seems to me that today their are people who believe in science rather than just using it as a tool to navigate life. Science does many noble things, providing an accurate model for existence and purpose is not one of these.
@mercedesbenz3021
8 жыл бұрын
Irish Druidess The PhDs I know acknowledge science as a _tool/method_ for navigating and succeeding in/facilitating life. Science doesn't have a "mission to understand the _purpose_ of life;" we'd be assuming that our giant chemical-reaction-selves _have a purpose,_ which would shift a rather scientific discussion into one of philosophy. Anyway, you wrote a fantastic comment, Irish.
@ChrisJones-vf8dy
8 жыл бұрын
+Irish Druidess As a humanist I don't think humans need science to give us a purpose we give ourselves purpose be it family, hobbies or a career. Just as we don't need to say God has a purpose for us.
@irishdruidess7391
8 жыл бұрын
These things may be true. I think that we all look for purpose in many different areas. Science is great for helping humanity live longer and easier lives, this being said the purpose of science for people who believe rather than use science seems to be a kin to religious beliefs.
What film??? I would love to watch it if someone would only be kind enough to educate me.
@unnefer001
7 жыл бұрын
The Unbelievers. It was on Netflix several months ago when I saw it. Not sure if it still is.
@elizdonovan5650
4 жыл бұрын
unnefer001 thank you.
best part is 15:30 .... does he believe in God?
It seems to be impossible to change the ignorant from using the term "Theory". It seems to me it would be easier to have scientists to change the name of a more proven idea. "Theorem" seems to be a better choice, as it would be less confusing.
Surely those of us who are atheists should have a short and useful summary of fundamental beliefs? For starters : 1. An atheist is one who believes there are no gods ( G Oppy) 2 We come from dust and thereto will return (Dawkins) 3 Death is the end and " Has dominion" (Hitchins)
@schmetterling4477
3 жыл бұрын
Why would I believe in facts? They are facts.
What movie were they talking about?
here is what comes to mind when someone asks me does god exist - the more knowledge your consciousness absorbs, the farther you grow from the illusion of reality. 'Reality" being the materialistic power-struggle over green velvet paper, and those within that realm who blindly follow within this "reality". I think the people who know what I'm talking about, will identify with what I'm about to say. Once you've TRULY broken through that illusion, you go through a phase where you no longer see "purpose" in life. Not in a depressive context. You still desire life, but you no longer feel as if you have a real "purpose", because you've broken the illusion of "reality", and it wasn't meant to be broken. Since you can now see outside of this "reality", you begin to feel cursed. Almost regretful that you broke this illusion. You do not regret the knowledge, but you regret the outcome of understanding the knowledge itself. You're now free, but the freedom seems virtually useless. I went through another phase two years ago. I began to focus more and more on every single present moment of my life and began to train myself to never let a single moment go by without experiencing it and capturing it. Love and Fear, are the only two real emotions, everything else is just a variation of those two basic emotions. Joy and Depression, are only variations of Love and Fear, and once you understand that, you begin to realize that the complexity of the human mind can be broken down and you will begin to truly truly truly understand yourself for the first time ever in your life. So, what is happiness? Is it purpose? Is ignorance bliss? Is it enlightenment? The journey to enlightenment? Personally, I believe happiness is the ability to fully exist moment to moment in a balanced aspect. Being able to exist happily in every present moment, makes the past one with the present, and the future able to co-exist with the present. It's quite amazing how music can translate thoughts for us
What movie they are talking about?
If you can't describe consciousness how can you rule out spirituality.
@livingvancouvertime2723
4 жыл бұрын
There's NO evidence for a spirit.
What is the title of the film they refer to?
Is that Emery Emery @ 8:00 ?
22:20 How much are you willing to bet creationists are going to quote mine this?
@ThePharphis
9 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@pumajlr
9 жыл бұрын
If you are going to be too cautious in your words to avoid quote mining, then you have to remain silent.
Fedora tipping intensifies
Damn, I've seen this one before, thought it was new
wtf lawrence skipping out to do what?
Was Einstein a believer?
A evolutionary conscience becomes self aware like skynet.
Yeah but the hats and stuff,
What a panel…only missing sam harris… and the late great Christopher Hitchens.
The camera man is fucking things up
what film are they talking about?😂 sorry for my stupidity
@andyDZ
8 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Sprenkels The Unbelievers.
@Ryan_2112
8 жыл бұрын
+Bajumeru ah thanks!
@Shady-Shane
8 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Sprenkels that made me giggle, not stupid, funny; but the clues in the title
@Ryan_2112
8 жыл бұрын
+shady shane 😂😂😂
Lawrence looks a lot like Teller...until he talks.
Does Sam Harris and his justification of torture appear in the "Unbelievers" ?
Camera person is making me nauseous
oh shit! 18.45 in.... "Mr. Teller" damn dude, you done fucked up :D
Celebrities are tastemakers? To whom?
@acetate909
7 жыл бұрын
Rob Haskins The vast majority of the population.
At 11:23 Lawrence flushes his intelligence down the drain.
29:05 All Atheists are pirates
Please in spanish language 🙏
buy a tripod please
Lawrence Krauss hogs the mike
Last question did suck IMO
We generally don't do any of this stuff in the UK or even most of western Europe. We generally don't do believer, non-believer or agnostic. If we had a term for our general position it would be NO POSITION. We generally don't own a bible, read a bible or go to church except for traditional weddings and funerals. We might put CofE on a birth certificate or census form but only because that's what it said on ours. Only 1 in 60 Brits go to church. The NO POSITION is the position we hold wrt having a favourite colour or number or wrt UFOs or ghosts. We might watch a TV programme on UFOs or ghosts but only for entertainment. Sorry I have forgotten to use the word generally but please accept that I always mean generally. NO POSITION means not going there, not checking out the cosmological argument or the argument from design. We have never heard anyone say hallelujah and if we did we would move away from them. Even our churches don't sell anything other than BELIEF and FAITH and haven't really done anything other since Soren Kierkegaard. Neither do we read Darwin or Dawkins on evolution. We just take Plato's advise "if you have a medical problem, see a doctor". That is, we don't read medical books if we have an illness, we trust the NHS and medical science. Similarly, we don't try to audit physicists, chemists or Dawkins. We are just happy that there are millions of scientist in thousands of disciplines doing their core business and giving us cures for Ebola and Zika.
@thoserusskies115
8 жыл бұрын
+David Lilley pretty much the same here in Russia. hardly anyone goes to church, only for a funeral service etc. and I simply can't understand how such books as Ancestor's Tale can be shocking or mythbusting to anyone. to me it's just a much more thorough, detailed, analytical, more adult and more interesting version of any biology textbook for middle school. the Russian comments under American animated videos on evolution generally say "that's just like a chapter from a children's textbook, why is that news?" or something along those lines.
@davidlilley4637
8 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed.
@thoserusskies115
8 жыл бұрын
David Lilley I didn't mean to sound cocky, But that is the true evidence that religion has been holding back the Western society in areas such as school education at least.
@davidlilley4637
8 жыл бұрын
+Those Russkies I am also impressed by your English. I often say of evolution that it is just our history and "history is bunk". Popper even went as far as to say evolutionary theory doesn't pass the falsifiability criteria because it cannot predict the fittest, though he later mellowed this by admitting that one could be a scientific historian. I hope that your reading has included Popper's Open Society.
Is it safe to assume all those dudes wearing hat indoors are Americans?
Camera man needs to be fired
Has Dawkins and other rudely adamant atheists considered and allegedly refuted the Transcendental Argument for the existence of God? It’s seems to be faith to always be able to trust in the objectivity of the universe.
@schmetterling4477
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they all have considered all the arguments for god and they have found all of them lacking even the logic of an average three year old.
@skylarhillman7137
3 жыл бұрын
@@schmetterling4477 cute! ad hominem
@skylarhillman7137
3 жыл бұрын
@@schmetterling4477 I suspect you yourself haven't done much research, reading, and pondering. "logic of an average three year old?" Some of the greatest thinkers of all time have rationally believed in the existence of God, or at least a higher power. Do I think some arguments for god are weak, yes! For example, the Anselm argument is incredibly weak for me. But not all arguments are. I would encourage you not to reply back as you think that all theists are stupid for believing in God. You new atheists type only like insulting theists.
@skylarhillman7137
3 жыл бұрын
@@schmetterling4477 If one is being honest both the theist and the atheist are utilizing Occam's Razor with their judgment. Neither the theist or atheist have seen whether or not there is an ultimate being, supernatural events, or an afterlife. The most neutral response with claims of the transcendent is agnosticism.
@schmetterling4477
2 жыл бұрын
@@skylarhillman7137 If you believe in Santa, that's your problem, kid. I don't have any reason to be as foolish as you are.
Interesting interview, pity the lighting is so awful - poor Dawkins looks like he’s sporting a Hitler mustache ! The dodgy camerawork doesn’t help either ...I’m feeling seasick watching this .
It's hard to take back the word "theory" because the word we *should* be using, "hypothesis", just kinda feels awkward.
@livingvancouvertime2723
4 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. Evolution is a fact.
IS THE GUY WITH THE ODD LOOKING HAT, TRYING TO HIDE THAT HE IS A MUSLIM AND ITS A BRIMLESS STYLE HAT THAT THEY WEAR ???????????????
I hope Mr Dawkins will respond and help me answer this question. anyone else who has a reasonable, rational, answer, I would appreciate it, contemplate it, credit it and possibly adopt that answer as sufficient ,only if the responder kept to certain, polite rules,,no profanity, name calling or unrelated to the subject, intentionally inflammatory or derogatory remarks,,please, I signed up here to learn ,not feel , please teach, dont preach. Anyways,,,, Mr Dawkins, 30 minutes into the video you said something that shocked me, you said, " I don't believe that we can have an absolute right or wrong, I don't think there can be absolutes in morality", ( I hope I quoted that correctly), .I must respectively disagree,, and I must honestly admit I did not know you held this view.. I thought we were looking for, gathering consensus and specifically defining morality, in order to objectively but absolutely , judge actions, ideas, dogmas, laws, and the like. I agree absoluteness is very hard to find, cultural diversity makes it almost impossible, but the way you said that with such certainty,,,well ... and I hope you understand I think you're like this too, my little "bell of truth " (ie: truth rings) went dead silent, after ringing continuously for a half hour. or how it does since the very first time I saw on KZread a new word, clicked on it just out of curiosity, and flipped the universe upside down. The word was...... Hitchslap, ,,... my question .which is more of a challenge,, can you refute this moral absolute,,,,,,,,,, to kill for the sole purpose of a perceived pleasure to be gained at the moment of the killing is wrong, IMMORAL ALWAYS ........ I see in my mind the wealthy, big game hunter , African safari type, in his trophy room of death, and him saying phrases like " thrill of the hunt" or pleasure of the kill", this also applies to many, regular everyday hunters, all the way down to the nasty little brat with a BB gun shooting birds and cats for fun. it's not the kill it's the reason for it that it is immoral, and I believe it is absolute. Thank you in advance for suffering through my long windedness.
@lastofmygeneration
9 жыл бұрын
Well, I think that this is a good question. The issue with morality is that you could ask 100 people this question and get 100 different responses. Morality is ultimately cultural and subjective. It depends on very many factors. I think that establishing legitimate moral absolutes might be possible, but we all have to agree on the method and come to a worldwide consensus. Obviously this will not happen anytime soon... mainly due to religion, among many other factors. Relative Morality allows humans to adapt to new social contexts and ideologies, thus increasing cooperation among different "tribes." How do you propose we arrive at these moral absolutes? Do you think everyone will fall in and recalibrate their moral compass?
@truthtrumpsdumbness638
9 жыл бұрын
Great question , Mark Having seen many of Prof. Dawkins presentations , I think its safe to say that he didn't mean that there are no absolutes in morality - His point has always been that those "absolutes" cannot be determined or dictated by a religious book. So most reasonable people understand that killing for fun is unacceptable, by means of appreciating the "Golden Rule," which anyone can understand - i.e. we wouldn't like anyone to kill us or members of our family for fun - and therefore, our innate empathy informs us that killing others for fun is unacceptable - it's easy logic The higher point that you make is that only those who don't "get it " seem to need to grab hold of religion , in order to tell them what everyone else understands, already - Such characters who can't refrain from causing suffering or death to others, without the threat of a greater authority or a deity, are by definition ....psychopaths
@markhambleton7019
9 жыл бұрын
truthtrumpsdumbness thanks for the response, I really like your playlist at your site. Lots of older vids I haven't seen, people I've not heard of. Funny one minute, thought provoking the next. nice job, had to subscribe to make sure I can get back easy, only about a third through. Everybody else should check it out, over 500 videos ,highly recommend.
@truthtrumpsdumbness638
9 жыл бұрын
Mark Hamblteton Mark, what a lovely comment - bless you :))
@acetate909
7 жыл бұрын
Why can't all comments play out like this on you tube? Good question BTW. I was going to attempt an answer but I see that what I was going to offer has already been submitted.
Why is the bloody camera moving back and forth and zooming in and out and shaking and going round and round so much? Couldn't we listen to these important people talk without this mindless camera gimmickry?
Why does atheism have to become a movement?
@livingvancouvertime2723
4 жыл бұрын
Atheists are open to learning God botherers are not very curious.
I'm a fan of Dawkins, Krauss and Jillette but the film The Unbelievers was fucking terrible. It looked like it was made and edited by a high school student for film class. Such an amateurish job, it was very disappointing. Also, was it so hard to get someone who owns a tripod and knows how to operate a camera to film this event?