❗VERY IMPORTANT - READ THIS❗ As I learn more about Motorsport's physics engine, I will add addendums to this pinned comment. •Suspension tuning • Suspension tuning was largely overlooked in this guide. What Forza Motorsport likes is for suspension to be tuned according to the weight balance of the car. For every 1% weight distribution toward either front or rear, we add 4 kgf/mm spring stiffness. In the case of the Porsche 911 GT3, with a 43/57 weight balance, this means that we add an additional 28kgf/mm on the rear springs. •Aero/Anti-Roll Bar Balance • Forza appears to suffer from a bit of the old rFactor 2 physics exploit, where a person can drop the rear aero level way back, and offset the loss in grip by also dropping the stiffness of the rear anti-roll bar. So far in my testing there appear to be diminishing returns here, but on faster tracks you can certainly gain lap time by dropping the rear wing a fair bit lower than I did in the video, and offsetting that by also dropping back the rear anti-roll bar. • For gamepad players • You MUST use 'Normal' steering (not 'Simulation') in order to be able to control tunes that rotate this much. For RWD cars, you may get more stability by setting Differential 'Acceleration' between 50% to 60%. Likewise, you may want the 'Deceleration' set between 20% and 40%. • For everyone • I've been told by a few sources that 'ideal' tyre pressures in Motorsport are between 1.7 to 2.2 bar. I've run a ton of tests, checked telemetry and lap performance, and so far I *always* get the best performance when my HOT tyre pressures are at 2.2 bar. Will keep you updated if this changes.

@Kader3636

7 ай бұрын

Thank you Ermz for this

@Starmast3rmusic

7 ай бұрын

You the best, ermz. 👍

@epicfiend1999

7 ай бұрын

40% decel 💀

@Harmonic14

7 ай бұрын

Not true on normal steering - all the top players are using sim, although normal isn't much slower at all. Also, tire pressures are actually more sensitive in this game. Before, you'd set them to 28.0 or so and call it good. Now, you need to make sure the middle temps aren't too hot or too cold, which is still fairly easy with telem

@rafaelribeiro99

7 ай бұрын

Question, are you playing with or without TC and ABS?

1:56 antiroll bars maximize, pull back rear 5% for grip 2:21 do the same to aero for tight tracks, if long straights take away more downforce 2:50 front better turns 2:54: rear better stability at speed 3:01: diffs acceleration: maximize for max pwr to wheels, 3:27: especially for rear engine cars to wheel spin on throttle 3:33: higher the decel the more understeer, less means more oversteer 3:45 RWD: decel set

@invanityofficial

2 ай бұрын

goat

I was so ready for you to be wrong like all the others that make "tuning guides" then use IRL logic. Thank you for giving people *real* information that actually works in Forza.

@michaelw6277

7 ай бұрын

Other sims have the same disconnect when it comes to how different settings impact performance. Even iRacing is not perfect. Years ago I got a tune from a guy who would provide them in exchange for Twitch subs and I was surprised at what I saw. It drove great and went fast but I couldn’t imagine a setup like that on a real car… although I’m not an engineer so maybe I’m just wrong.

@MrSirGiuseppe

7 ай бұрын

​@@michaelw6277 I mean there's been a lot of people who've built rather loose race cars (not sure if that's what you were referring to). A lot of fwd guys in older cars try to make the car oversteer as much as possible, which leads to less than ideal street manners lol

Dude you’re the man. I’ve been looking for a no nonsense tuning guide with results proven… I’ve been getting consistently whooped in qualifying despite being able to keep up and even gain positions through the race. Been getting some bad luck with ramming obviously but I felt like it didn’t matter how good of a lap I laid down I’d still be p5. I’ll try this out tonight and start tinkering to see if I can get anywhere

@TheRealNaika

7 ай бұрын

Raceboy77

I love this game so much. Online racing brought emotions I didn't know I was still capable of at 33.

@marc-andrehogue114

7 ай бұрын

You should get into sim racing then, im 34 and getting into sim racing gave me emotion i had back when i started playing game on pc 20 years ago. Its expensive but so much rewarding.

@mindkiller76

7 ай бұрын

@@marc-andrehogue114 I barely have time to play Forza as is.

@TheFormActually

7 ай бұрын

@@marc-andrehogue114 I get more thrill in FM than in ACC..... I mean, In FM it's constant fun, in ACC it's stressing out over setup and track conditions and then I get few great moments. FM is super condensed into pure fun... As much as I love AC and ACC something about FM that just makes the online racing enjoyment complete and super accessible...everything is like few clicks away. Simple and effective. And I know I'm not an isolated case.. pretty much all of my friends that play acc, iracing, rf2, ac said the same thing....

@theundertoker35

7 ай бұрын

@@TheFormActually definitely, I've not been on iRacing or ACC since Forza came out - I reallly enjoy booting it up and jumping online without any set ups or anything - this tuning guide will hopefully keep me at the front of the grid so I can avoid a lot of rammers and chaos at the start, it's not perfect and the dirty driving can be a pain but I'm still enjoying it. Had a few races over the weekend where people squeezed me into walls and stuff though, feel like it's getting worse as the days go on...

@Ermz

7 ай бұрын

Me too! Even though those emotions are mostly anger.

This is almost what I was looking for! I was looking for somebody to start with a base car and then go through the full upgrade and tuning of that vehicle! As I'm just starting out, I'm not sure what the "ideal" feel is for a vehicle in sim racing! Obviously, there's preference, but there is still an "optimal"/proper way to do things that I would love to learn as a foundation! I don't mind longer videos, especially when they're as informative as this. Even if you were to go much further into depth and drop a 30-60 minute video, I'd watch the whole thing multiple times! Thank you for this! I definitely appreciate all of the time and effort you put into the video!

As someone new to the FM series, thank you for creating an ACTUAL tuning guide, unlike other vids out there that just paraphrased the in-game description and didn't even bother to show us an example. I've been pretty frustrated since day 1 until I've watched this one right here!

It's always interesting seeing how different people tune.

@stefans4562

7 ай бұрын

And this guy wants his GT car to drive like a welded diff gokart.

@car-nivores

7 ай бұрын

@stefans4562 true but think about it, he uses a wheel, I use a controller, he is driving a Porsche, I would drive a vette or viper. Different strokes for different folks.

@Standgedicht

7 ай бұрын

Video game go kart mode. Diff at 100...yo...@@stefans4562

@Ermz

7 ай бұрын

@@stefans4562 loose is fast, baby.

@MrKeeyt-jm3ji

7 ай бұрын

Look if I’m not BARLEY out of control with my car I ain’t racin because I ain’t pushin. I’d rather have too much machine by just a bit leaving NOTHING on the track. So tunes like this to me is perfect. But like ol boy said, different strokes 🤷🏽‍♂️

Your differential settings might be causing excess inner tire wear and oversteer. 100% setting means that on throttle the wheels are locked together in speed. Meaning if you’re on power in a corner, the inside wheel will try to match the outer wheel’s rotation, spinning and cause oversteer. On GT cars I use around 30-40% accel and 10-20 deccel for RWD Axle and 55% accel and 1% deccel on FWD axle. The inside tire will be able to rotate. This allows for getting on power before your opponent in most cases. Max % diff settings very good for drifting though!

@TheRealNaika

7 ай бұрын

In formula 1, use high diff for high speed corners for stability and grip, mid/low diff for slow corners. So all depends on track and driving style. Ofc in formula y adjust for most corners mid fly

@josephhodsall8371

7 ай бұрын

I second this. High diff setting will help you put down power for sure, but it also makes the car oversteer on the throttle. This is very noticeable in RWD rally cars.

@jammaschan

7 ай бұрын

might just be how the Forza physics work though since quite a bit of other settings don't follow real world logic either?

@josephhodsall8371

7 ай бұрын

​@@jammaschan More likely is that people think that, because they don't understand car setup. I tune the same way in every simulator, but I guess physics just works differently for me XD

@jammaschan

7 ай бұрын

@@josephhodsall8371 Forza aint nowhere close to a sim, and the physics seem downright unrealistic imo

Your guide is great, thank you! I've been playing Forza since it first came out over 20 years ago and think your guide is the best I've come across in that time. I've always understood the basics of tuning, but your succinct guide with adjustments and immediate discussion on effects really helps pushing to the next level

By far the best tuning guide so far. To be expected from a great content creator tbh, but you told us what the good range of stuff actually is, the other videos, the guys just say stuff that most people already know

Sooooooo helpful. Have gone from (online) mid-pack to top 3-4 average just by learning from this single tutorial. Thank you very much.

Wow man!!!! U finally made me understand the differential. I found .9 for a 1 minute lap. I went from using the vw in touring cars and would consistently finish in the top 3 but it was a struggle. Now I can take any car in that class and dominate. It’s like night and day. Thank u thank u thank u!!!!!

been trying this tune on the same Porsche and its giving me great results, the second you left off the gas the car gets massive rotation, you can overtake almost everyone, talking about S 4844 skill level

Thank you so much for this video. I was finding this game very frustrating with the massive under steer. But since I’ve started using your set ups it’s made me love this game.

Have been super competitive using this guide as a base line, very impressed

This is exactly how i tune my cars, except the aero. Full on Front and as low as i cant get away with on the rear is my way to go.

@someweeb3650

7 ай бұрын

In previous forza titles I found a lot of cars just want the number equal on both sides, I'll see if tuning out the understeer in this game causes me to want more rear downforce once I get it.

@Ermz

7 ай бұрын

I've heard this from a few Forza players. I'm going to try tuning low rear aero combined with low rear anti roll bar, in case aero doesn't work like reality. If the Forza engine is broken in the same way rFactor 2 was, this would result in max grip, oversteer and speed.

Thank you for making a guide I've been looking for one that goes over the more important tuning options my m8 handles even better than before

Your content style is very satisfying

Thanks for the setup guide, you made it easier for me.

Great info, thanks! Although I would highly recommend folks check out the anti-dive anti-squat settings. You can get a lot better braking performance out of most cars reducing the default anti-dive. If the rear tires are sliding on the throttle, reducing anti-squat is a one-click fix. and you can leave your damper settings to deal with bumps. and if your rear tires AREN'T ever sliding on corner exits, increase the anti-squat until they're right at the edge of sliding and you get instantly better acceleration. I treat the damper settings like the fast bump/rebound in ACC, and the anti-squat/dive like slow bump/rebound.

I was skeptical, but your tips worked.

finally the guide i want to see but wont use since i am lazy...

Nice work man some really nice pointers in there 🙏

This is what I have been waiting for 😍

Great vídeo, thanka for the tips and the way you explain them, jt helps a lot! 👊🏻

Been waiting for this one. I have some knowledge from GT7, Anti Roll bars are a MUST for better turn in, and I know what afew of the rest do, but I definitely need this

@natas12rm

5 ай бұрын

Front is for turn in and rear is for mid turn and exit

i would recommend trying out -2.2° of camber on the front with that porsche. it felt like the front tires had a considerable amount of extra grip with the extra -0.2 degrees.

This made the game playable for me, thank you

I personally believe the car leveling was put in place to help drivers get to know their car better and understand how certain modifications affect different aspects of their vehicle. I don't find any issues with the car leveling system as I am big on rivals stuff so it's super easy to start off stock, take down a good chunk of a leaderboard and then go back and upgrade and continue the mission to own everybody else

@crazygem9994

7 ай бұрын

There needs to be a driver level cap where carpoint and carlevels don't matter anymore ie: driver level 100, 150 ect

@MrSirGiuseppe

7 ай бұрын

Theres some discrepancies with the tuning availability for certain parts (although its nothing different than their older games). Like the suspension upgrades for one - the description for the sport suspension refers to single way adjustable coilovers..that means we should be able to adjust the height and 1 type of damping (compression or rebound, preferably rebound). Then the race suspension could unlock complete tuning of the suspension. Whichever person(s) did the descriptions for the different upgrades seems to be a real enthusiast..all of the mods are about as accurately described as they can be for a 3 tier system.

@dnegel9546

4 ай бұрын

Man f that.. you ever try getting a E class car into A class. Takes hours to do. And accomplishes nothing because by the time its in A class its nothing like it was part by part.

Great vid. What are the next guides planned?

Very concise guide!

Outstanding thank you Ermz 👍

Actually a huge help thank you 🙏

Love it... Another video specific to FWD? Thanks

The first thing I do with every car is drop the diff deceleration setting to 0 and only increase it as necessary (5 for mid/rear engine RWD car). With that most cars start to present a more natural behavior when you close the throttle to tighten your line mid corner.

Man, your video is a game changer. So far the experience has not been good: I don't know how to tune and the guide videos I've seen look like I need an Excel sheet. The tunes available online? I was convinced the game sucks donkey balls because I had a five star tune on the Porsche 919 and it felt like I was driving on ice with summer tires. After watching this video, I can spend a few minutes tuning a car and suddenly it starts behaving like it should. And driving feels fun. The devs should give you a medal. I was almost ready to quit this game.

yeeeees i was waiting for this!!!!

Car looks like it is drifting more around the corners then actually planting into them and carving into it... You can tell by how it looks and watching your steering wheel as it is not steady when you are taking corners, it's jumping around because you have to make multiple adjustments to keep yourself from spinning out...

@jamesdenton6370

7 ай бұрын

I’ve just rewatched it and yeah…you’re right.

@SDTuts

7 ай бұрын

Which ultimately will kill tires faster in longer races. AND there's more to tuning, like how weight distribution and the difference between front / rear tire width affects handling characteristics, downforce mainly being tuned for high speed turns, while suspension for low-to-mid speed ones.

@matthewgriffin1484

7 ай бұрын

I agree but it seems that’s just what works for him. Tuning is very subjective, what works for some people is not necessarily the best for you.

@MatthewRindahl

7 ай бұрын

This is how drivers who prefer oversteer drive. You can see it a lot in carting. I think this is too much for me personally but the whole idea is to get the car to rotate quicker so you can be on throttle earlier

@rustyc6805

7 ай бұрын

Negative toe is wheels pointing out from center

The best video 4 setup yet...Thx a lot! Can you make it one also for the LMP cars? Like the Cadillac of the intro?

Your tune seems very twitchy. What i like to do is find a nice middle ground for anti roll bar and spring settings. You can use the formula [(max value - min value)×wt ratio + min value] here the wt ratio is the wt distribution of your car. If it is 55ft and 45 rear and your max and min values are 13 and 1 respectively then it will be [(13-1)×0.55 + 1] (this is for the front, for rear multiply it by rear wt ratio which in this case is 0.45). Which will give you a nice middle ground. Then you can fine tune it to your liking. You can do the same for bump stifness and the rebound stiffness is 60 percent of bump stiffness. So bump stifness multiplied by 0.6

@AbstractNoise

7 ай бұрын

Not berating your tunes. I read my comment again and it came across as a lil condescending. Just wanted to share some additional knowledge where you can use your wt distribution to tune your cars.

@josephhodsall8371

7 ай бұрын

Hold up, hold up. Bump damping should pretty much always be lower than rebound. Too much bump damping causes poor turn in, and not enough rebound damping causes inconsistent grip. If your bump damping is stiffer than your rebound, one of these things is definitely happening. Possibly both! Just my two cents : )

@matteusmaximus

7 ай бұрын

yeah and the rollbars are totally irrelevant as well :D so no calculations necessary. If it was realistic you would need them to make the car stable. You can set both anti-roll settings to zero in every single car and they're all totally fine without. Which is what i was doing for a while, thinking that I was getting max grip on the outside tires while cornering, but ironically, since I guess the grip calculations are completely out of whack, he's right, you actually get better cornering speeds with the rollbars at max stiffness.

@josephhodsall8371

7 ай бұрын

@@matteusmaximus You misunderstand how rollbars work. Soft roll bars give more stability, which is why rally cars, trophy trucks, and other offroad vehicles have soft rollbars. On a track, you need grip more than stability, so racecars run stiff rollbars, which you can easily see by how they don't roll very much in corners. Not trying to dunk on you or anything, just trying to help out a fellow sim racer. Understanding this stuff makes driving much more enjoyable.

Every damn car is understeering! I knew I wasn’t crazy! Increase the rear bump and front rebound! Thank you! 💪💪

@austinryan4393

7 ай бұрын

Go into your settings and change your deadzones, Forza has a crazy ass 24/100 setting stock lol. I dropped mine down to 5 since I have an older controller but if yours is newer you can go to 0. Doing this legit dropped my lap time on Hakone Club by more than half a second and put me from 90th on rivals to 33rd.

@Standgedicht

7 ай бұрын

Yep. this helps a lot.@@austinryan4393

@Harmonic14

7 ай бұрын

​@@austinryan4393stock deadzones are completely fine. There's not much time, if any, to be gained there. It's just preference on how it feels

@Charmer4856

5 ай бұрын

@@austinryan4393 steering linearity is also missing unless you’re on a wheel. Would help dramatically if it was available to controller players

Really nice video! Maybe one more for the fwd cars?

Great stuff thank you for sharing. Can you make a vid for how to get off the starting line quick, especially in the faster cars. Also how to defend against all the people spinning you out. I make through 1 is every ten races without getting taken out but some amateur.

EPIC ! I had problems tuning in the cayman GTS, it was not rotating at all and completely understeering under power. I made the setup following your info a heureka, the car is now rotating monster, the changes of direction in low speed are insane, no sign of understeer, just what u expect porshe to drive like. I dunno who makes the basic setups but they are just dog s**t.

Your tuning guide help me get my first podium finish. You should get paid. Thanks

Note. That Porsche is a pretty gripy car coming out of turns that’s why he needed more oversteer. Also player skill matters you can probably run a store tune good but if you can spend the time to do your own it’s much faster because you can keep adjusting over time.

This is a fantastic video... I normally like to race using the Touring Cars, would the same principal apply here to those cars and other classes too?

Big help sir! New sub. Ty! Damping ratios are so difficult for me as other than being 1/3 of bump no other help is given. I wish the game would do a better job of explaining settings! Heck I’d love a racing school mode or something like that!

Ty. I love this car too

very nice video, I'd like you to explain driving techniques with the wheel in Forza, it'd be really good, thanks

Why on earth are you maxing the front ARB in a car you’ve identified as understeer heavy? You’ve just made it more understeery. Stiffening the back will increase oversteer but it’s opposite for the front. By maxing out the FRONT ARB, you’ve effectively decreased your front grip on mid to high speed corners. Fix understeer: Corner entry: lower front springs, lower front bump and rebound (or do opposite on rear) Mid corner: increase rear ARB, decrease front ARB, increase rear diff lock, decrease front and rear deceleration lock; can also stiffen suspension and increase camber in older or non-racing cars

very nice overview, a few little differences to adjust to from fh5, reeeeeeaaaally wanting to see an explanation of the suspension geometry pls? I've tried to play with it but I normally do more harm than good when I do.

Tuning is OP in spec.. i keep an eye on tire friction and adjust tire pressure alignment and Aero to suit.. tweak slowly as tire ware is a big factor... Gear Ratios i do a lap and if im not using all the gears ill tune it till I am. Toe is a weird one.. RWD you want stability on straights and turns so it doesn't drift. FWD id go for a more turn in rear but add rear aero to compensate for the loss of stability

Excellent

Thank you very mutch !!!!

I haven't tested yours yet, but I use 20.x-21.x (as close to .0 as possible) rollbars (so +1 rear) and 70-30 diff as a general setup and it works pretty well. I feel like 100% diff lock shouldn't work, it basically means fixed diff, which is good for drift cars, not so much for racing.

Me watching this knowing full well I don't have Forza. 👁️👄👁️

I've heard from the fast guys that it needs a low downfoemrce setup to be quick and makes it loose and hard to drive. It's not a noob stick like the corvetter

And this comment will ........BE FULLY MAXED OUT Jokes aside in really appreciate this because im clueless when it comes to tuning, i knew it wasn't me that was driving slow it was these default tunes that have made me slower, now that im familiar with tuning insee my lap times improving and im increasing the AI difficulty to help me improve my overall driving Thanks again definitely subscribing

nice video mate, thanks! can i use this tips for all cars?

Found that most laptimes u can find in late breaking and or good mid corner grip, this game likes V style driving it seems

Thanks!

5:30 I think you got that mixed up. IRL race cars pretty much always have negative front toe/ toe out to get rid of understeer and positive rear toe for stability. Edit: Nevermind, it's just the wrong way around in the game😂

@Ermz

7 ай бұрын

Correct.

For the a game that doesn't use a photorealistic filter or look, the game does look damn good

Subbed bro

This is my fav car in the game, too. I applied your settings and loved how the car feels right away. Question tho: did you have upgrades applied up front or did you start from the GT spec values? Because with the GT settings, no matter how hard I try, I’m not getting anywhere near the 00:50.3 not even close. 😢

could you create a guide also on FF FR and MR layouts? the theory is in this one but Does it actually apply in this Simulator? :D

Excellent video, thank you :) Ermz

Thanks

Been waiting for this! Thank you. How much of this applies to playing with a controller?

@duesenantrieb8272

7 ай бұрын

the same??? what does you controller have to do with your cars tunig .... you gotta tune how it feels best to you taking note of his tipps there

@Ermz

7 ай бұрын

@@duesenantrieb8272 For gamepad race with 'Normal' steering to keep the car controlled with this much oversteer, and consider making the Differential settings a little less extreme if you're having trouble with twitchyness.

@panher

7 ай бұрын

@@Ermz Thanks for the reply! Been having quite a few tankslappers with steering set to simulation, so I'll try normal for a bit!

Nice video. Would these settings work on Forza LMP cars? (Early, P1 and the Cadillac LMHs)

Hi, liking your fm videos. Quick question, your car settings, would you think they would work on my cheap ass logitech g920 wheel?

does the suspension tuning segment also work for proper sims like assetto corsa?

Thanks. Very good setup.

No adjustments to brake bias? Cars default to 50/50 but i found 55-63 front bias helpful trying to get a little more front grip while trail braking. Thoughts?

Slamming ride height down to the lowest settings isn't always the best move. On many cars with race suspension, this can actually cause your car to become unstable when driving over curbs on corner entry or exit.

This guide is giving very different information (differential, stiffness) to some of the others I’ve watched. I guess I just gotta try both ways and see which feels best for me.

@Standgedicht

7 ай бұрын

This guide here turns the GT car into a videogamish go cart. Has nothing to do with GT Cars.

i'm new to forza and i've seen a lot of tuning guides but they never show what performance upgrades to use are they not important as long as it unlocks the tuning tabs and maxes the car's PI class?

Do you normally drive with the cockpit view or hood view?

Do you know if changing the brake bias will also affect tire wear? Like if farther back bias uses more rear tires on breaking therefore more evenly distributed wear?

@Ermz

7 ай бұрын

I think this will only be the case if you're not running ABS and often lock the tyres. Having more even brake pressures can avoid locking, which will reduce tyre wear. The only other impact I can imagine is that if you move it rearward, the extra oversteer under braking might avoid scrubbing the fronts (big issue with default setups).

@TheFormActually

7 ай бұрын

it does, but for cars for 911 GT3, I always move bb toward back.. like 70%, to reduce the back spin outs during trail braking..

On Logitech g920 it's so hard to catch the car do you drive that on your wheel?

Cheeky bit of Northlane in the background!

This is why I find the best tuner online and just use their tunes. I'm not a mechanic and can't be bothered. I just want to race.

So I play on wheel and I notice that wheel is more consistent when it comes to conserving tires. It is definitely harder to control oversteer. So I wonder how this applies to wheel.

Im not sure why but I've probably watched this video a good 10 times over while tuning my cars and I gotta say that ever since my cars have never done worse. Cars that use to be stable and fast are squirrley and unmanageable. My touring cars are being dominated by less than skilled drivers and im starting to lose interest in even figuring out how to get my tunings back to what they were. Idk if its just my experience but I've used this video as a reference for every tune I do. I was better off just blindly learning on my own tweaking one thing at a time and feeling how it effected the car. Btw, are all these tuning tips under the assumption that were using a steering wheel/manual trans setup? Is any of this viable for a controller?

For my experience in this FM the dodge are the best car. Witch gt car is better in your opinion?

Hmmm, a bit of an oversimplification of suspension in the Forza context, I can see how Forza isn't a sim, but if your car bottoms out it's a whole heap of pain. This is especially so with bumps as Forza kerbs are notoriously made out of ice. As for the camber, you can validate your choices by checking tire temperatures as you corner. This is more difficult than previous Forza games as the telemetry is simplified, but even if Forza isn't a sim one could assume the logic refers to having a better contact patch into its math. As for the PSI, it was 32PSI (2.2Bar) on the previous Forza games, but I'm not finding it the same this time around. I often run 28PSI front and 24-26PSI rear when tires are warm and the difference between that and 32PSI is night and day - this is all with race tire compounds. I would hazard a guess the feel of a tune between controller and wheel is massively different, it was on previous Forza games, but I don't have a wheel for Forza to confirm. It's possible this tune works great on a wheel, but it could be another picture on a controller.

I will watch this to have faster cars in FM2,FM3 and FM4

I've always been a fan of GT n Forza both, more GT overall but there's been times I picked Forza over GT like Forza 4 vs GT5, I haven't gotten Gt7 yet but have been playing this Forza alot, what are some of yalls opinion, which of the 2 is better this time around?

Camber is grip in high g forces, less camber is more grip in low g forces

You need to make small adjustments just as ya would in real life then on to max this out max that out 😂😂😂😂😂subbed

"The car has an understeer tendency" Proceeds to max front anti roll bar 🤦

@I_AM_ENTR0PY

7 ай бұрын

He did that right but for the wrong reason. In Forza, for optimum performance you want an overall stiff front, with a loose back. This means stiff ARB in the front, soft in rear, stiff springs in front and soft-er in rear (this is for most cars. Porsche RSR requires front softer springs and rear stiffer bc of engine layout). Max downforce on front, minimum downforce in rear. This means that when you turn in, your rear will naturally rotate to follow the front under power. This guide is good for beginners to make their cars driveable, but it is utter non-sense when it comes to advanced tuning. @ermz

@asdowo111

7 ай бұрын

​@@I_AM_ENTR0PYCause I was wondering that a 911 is a rear engine rwd car which supposed to be exhibits oversteer tendencies. So like you said, minimum Front Arb and Max rear Arb. But the more I watch youtubers discussing tunes, they tend to max front arbs anyway especially on RWD cars. Is this somekind of meta tune lng Horizon 5 or something?

@I_AM_ENTR0PY

7 ай бұрын

@@asdowo111 yeah there’s a meta around ARBS right now. 911 seems to be 35 front and 40 rear. Don’t ask me why.

They pushed the realism setting to a solid +48 over 50

Heya Jake, what is the base car? There are so many, would love to just start with the exact same car, make the incremental changes you are making and see if I can "Feel" the difference in the tunings the way you can in my wheel setup. There are So many Porche 911 GT3's lol.. 2021 911 GT3, 2019 911 GT3 RS, ParkPlace 911 GT3 R, 2016 911 GT3 RS, 2007 911 GT3, 2004 911 GT3 EDIT: There is a hint with Car balance at default of 43/57 So I've been looking into them trying to find Porche GT3 with that balance at purchase so I can literally start on my tuning journey the way you have here in this video. Thanks in advance for any help on this. I appreciate the content. Ill be ARound!

@marksutherlandjr.2121

3 ай бұрын

Bump.. Just checking in to see if n e one knows the title car.

So this is a "drifting" tune, im looking for a racing tune. Thanks for the video though.

@whobedankeykang9856

7 ай бұрын

….no this is a racing tune I literally shows the lap improvements. Anyone who actually races knows it’s faster to steer (slightly not a lot) with the gas in a gt car to make the car rotate and point the correct way so you can hold momentum through the corners and have faster exit speed vs turning the front tires too much and having that grip on the front slow you down. Look at the top of the screen where it tells him he’s scoring 10/10 in every sector

@Standgedicht

7 ай бұрын

He turns it into a slidy go cart. That`s not racing tune.@@whobedankeykang9856

@uwu_demon5494

7 ай бұрын

@@whobedankeykang9856Have you ever actually seen any GT racing in real life? The cars are setup for grip driving and they dont like drifting at all.. You can tell that when you look at actual GT3 races that most of the time when they lose traction, they just spin out, they are not setup at all to "rotate with gas" They are setup to grip as much as possible, not slide around.

You seem to be correcting in the middle of every turn. That feels like it would be a handful to control. I've been trying to get the 911GT3 to feel as close to how it does in gt7, which for anyone who doesn't know, the car just does what you want and feels like it has infinite grip. Is the maxed diff the issue?

@Ermz

7 ай бұрын

It'd be the relatively high rear anti roll bar, and the reasonably low differential deceleration setting. You can easily make the car more stable mid-corner by adjusting these two.

@nsin121

7 ай бұрын

Hey! thanks for the suggestions@@Ermz . Love the vids. Keep it up, my friend.

Me being a first time "racing sim" player (not new to Forza), I took to Kayalami Grand Prix to see if somebody such as myself with little to no tuning experience and a controller can benefit from this guide. Here are my results: I used a GR Supra, PI 800. I drove Kayalami 4 times and averaged my time. First go was no tune. Average time was 1:52.7 with a best lap of 1:50.8. Second go was just with PSI and roll bar changes. Average lap was 1:51.2 with a best lap of 1:50.3. Third go was everything changed, my first attempt. Average lap was 1:50.75 witha best lap of 1:50.5. My fourth go was everything changed, but more fine tuned. Average lap was 1:50.2 with a best lapt of 1:49.3. Each time, the car did feel different around the turns and I got a better understanding of what I should look for when tuning. I plan to test this method on at least three more cars, all while writting down my own notes and comparing times. At a first glance, a lot of the tips and explanations in this video are easy to understand unlike other's I've tried to watch or read. Truly, that's what a turning guide should be. Show people the ropes and what to look for, then let them free to find the changes themselves. Still more testing to do but looking at my first results, this video does seem to provide some great instruction. :)

does anyone know the exact model he is using? is it a GT 3-RS? a normal GT 3? wich version? or does all of that not matter in the game? help would be much apreciated.

I swear based off your sarcasm that you was trolling. Boy I was wrong as hell lol.