Regarding my videos, they will simply be unlisted and still viewable in a public playlist. The future content will be centered around mostly indie and older racing games. Regarding the drama part of the video: Some people in the comp scene have already commented, but KZread buries negative comments and so they're not visible. I don't want to abuse my platform and they should at least be able to share their side of the story, so if anyone is interested, I could make a followup covering all their responses on my second channel. Regardless, no side will ever come to an agreement, and it's not possible to provide concrete proof for many of the arguments. UPDATE: followup video kzread.info/dash/bejne/mohoqLlwetjZc9I.html

@Tronscrolls

Ай бұрын

I believe you man, This evidence seems pretty damning

@jreezy524

Ай бұрын

Bro, we would love a follow-up video. Most of the people watching this video can relate to what you say to some degree, and we're all sick of these big corporations scamming us every chance they can.

@skgamer-zs6en

Ай бұрын

pls give me pirated fh-4 link fitgirl repack is taking too long to install

@Sandman72346

Ай бұрын

@@Tronscrollsif you want to know for sure go ahead and reach out to people in the competitive side to give their screenshots of proof, I’m sure they will be more than happy to provide it

@Tronscrolls

Ай бұрын

@@Sandman72346 Hmm I just might

turn 10 hires people who just turned 10

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

Or more like turned 7.

@thenuvolari9834

Ай бұрын

They were just built from the ground up, not ready yet

@Kipe._

Ай бұрын

their employees are probably Chinese kids in a sweatshop being forced to learn how to program, and the teachers teaching them how to program are underpaid and constantly on crack

@hhaste

Ай бұрын

mentally*

@cromo5641

Ай бұрын

😅

I saw a review for FM that said "If this wasn't the only Motorsport game on Steam, everyone would be playing FM4" and I couldn't agree more.

@allenjay896

Ай бұрын

It deserves to get shif on.

@NVegianP

Ай бұрын

id be playing fucking fm7 if it was on there

@Bigbigpoopi

Ай бұрын

Forza Motorsport 4 did have the best sounding Ford GT

@BigE1205

Ай бұрын

​@Bigbigpoopi FM4 just had the best of everything at the time

@AnekoGT

Ай бұрын

It is Solely because FM4 is the best game on the franchise. It has a shit ton of content compared to this atrocity.

The fact you can get banned from A SINGLE PLAYER GAME is seriously dystopian.

@meyers0781

4 күн бұрын

already happened recently to a Sony PS5 user who got banned while playing Baldur's Gate 3 over a Fortnite purchase dispute. This is a live service issue, not a Microsoft issue. Not solely. And also even if Valve is more lenient about stuff, there's always chats pretending to be support team that would ban you unless you follow their orders, which lead to a stolen account. GOG is our only hope.

@kpegc

Күн бұрын

@@meyers0781 Can't wait for the day forced DRM becomes obsolete.

Thanks a lot for the mention! The effort seems to be gaining traction, I think we're going to get answers on this problem one way or another.

14:18 Say it with me If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.

@iyadkamhiyeh527

Ай бұрын

This is really outrageous, imagine paying 100 bucks for a game then you get banned from playing what you paid for!

@NeightrixPrime

Ай бұрын

What Turn 10 does is commit criminal and civil theft, at least in the US. It is NOT within their discretion to revoke access arbitrarily or under condition agreed to in EULA or ToS.

@lucasgamezz140

Ай бұрын

Even better. It says buy. I had this kind of shit in a business law course: If it says "Buy [Game]", and then says in the TOS that you are just licensing it... well the purchase is void. It was made based on a lie. Because you don't buy the game, you buy a license, yet the offer is for the game. Therefore, your intent to buy the game wasn't filled, and you got fooled, voiding the purchase

@xZeroGrxvity

Ай бұрын

@@NeightrixPrime EULA and ToS dont even matter either... some are unjust.

@Fusion05

Ай бұрын

​@@lucasgamezz140so you are entitled to a refund right?

Sony would make unethical amounts of money if they released GT7 on steam

@snoopyshultz

Ай бұрын

with all the ports coming from sony i think it's a more they would, but they cant port to pc

@Wiiillllson151

Ай бұрын

Yes they would but the issue is now that GT7 has the most realistic models on the market people would start sealing the assets and use them as mods. It's the fundamental flaw with PC gaming.

@ryangry_

Ай бұрын

​@@Wiiillllson151 even now they still did it sooo..... hard to do unless they always updating their encryptment which is pretty harsh

@Wiiillllson151

Ай бұрын

@@ryangry_ Did what steal GT7 assets off of PS5? Where?

@ryangry_

Ай бұрын

@@Wiiillllson151 internet is massive mate ;)

18:55, Competitve Trackmania had a scandal a bit ago where one of the top all-time players, Riolu, as well as a few others, were caught using slowdown hacks to set world records on thousands of maps (they were caught bc TM's replay system is actually functional despite TMNF being from 2008). Riolu's defense was essentially "I didn't cheat, and what are you going to do? Not believe me?" and assuming his name would stand against the clear evidence against him. Luckily, it did not.

@guestc142

Ай бұрын

Iirc he set the special medals in turbo, but I don't know if he used cheats there. This whole controversy really riled up trackmania lol

@pugzilla330

Ай бұрын

@@guestc142 Oh yeah, he also worked directly with the game devs/publishers

@KazzyMac

Ай бұрын

@@guestc142 iirc somewhere it was confirmed through the replay telemetry that it was a 50/50 split between legitimate and illegitimate for his medal times in turbo. i think it was wirtual who confirmed/exposed it.

@droid1008

Ай бұрын

@@KazzyMac and then wirtual was called out for cheating lol (which he did)

@sondernfy

Ай бұрын

@@droid1008To be fair, at that time Ubisoft Nadeo had no ruling for that case

GTA community is like Forza but even worse: >GTANet circlejerk with headadmin behaving like he's from Resetera >bullshit peddlers like mrbossftw >R* literally doesn't doing community outreach aside of controlled interviews I just wonder what will happen if GTA VI flops

@mr.soystein7849

Ай бұрын

GTA VI won't flop, regardless of quality.

@lumirairazbyte9697

Ай бұрын

It won’t. GTA is on the “to big to fail” on gaming, alongside EA FC, NBA2K, Pokemon, CoD, etc. Those will sell like hotcakes not matter how poorly and greedy are made.

@reinbeers5322

Ай бұрын

GTA6 won't flop at all, I think. Just impossible with the hype it has gathered from being thirteen fucking years in the making.

@racingraptor4758

Ай бұрын

Even if everyone drop GTA VI day after the release day one sales will be more than enough for R* to stay afloat. And I can see it being terrible ywt it will sell like Pokemon games...

@DemoniteBL

29 күн бұрын

It won't flop, but I have a strong feeling it's gonna suck.

You taught me how to tune, You taught me how to drive, all while being entertaining. You will be missed.

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

FM2023 also never had a race car events at all. Even GRAN TURISMO 1 has race car events. Like GT WORLD CUP.

@privateinformation2960

Ай бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 man i cut my teeth on Papyrus titles in the 90s. There is literally nothing on the market now that comes in any way close to how good those releases were physics and tuning wise. Forza is a complete fuckin joke in that regards, Horizon especially literally doesnt know what kind of game it wants to be, its not a sandbox game because youre stuck in your car and all you do is drive. its not an arcade racer because it has a full tuning .... thing ... and has a semi open world, and its not a sim racer because ultimately the 'tuning' on the car actually means fuck all and doesnt ultimately change how the car drives, it just shifts around the grip levels, or one thing ive noticed, is that your turning radius changes itself depending on a bunch of things.... not the car understeers and pushes out/oversteers turns in, it literally changes how far your fuckin wheel is turning which makes me want to punch stuff.

@SidneyTurnerOfficial

Ай бұрын

@@privateinformation2960 That might explain how my cornering became so bad after 'upgrading' my car.

@griffinfaulkner3514

20 күн бұрын

​@@privateinformation2960 Goddammit now I have the INDYCAR Racing 2 opening music stuck in my head.

polyphony/sony could just kill turn10 by bringing gt7 on PC

@KikuraKun

Ай бұрын

And we could reach 1 million players at peak. Edit: Though I've seen AC Evo teaser few days ago. We'll see how well this new upcoming game from Kunos do.

@gamtax

Ай бұрын

Kinda wish PD would do that just for trolling. Besides, FM exists because there were no racing games as good as GT back then for Xbox.

@rodrigo2silvanoob

Ай бұрын

Gt7 = gt6 recycled

@euphoriaggaminghd

Ай бұрын

​@@rodrigo2silvanoobbruh

@ftheweebs6799

Ай бұрын

@@rodrigo2silvanoob even that are still better than Today's FM

Die-Hard (used to be) Halo fan here. What you described about the Development behind Forza 2023 is EXACTLY what happened with Halo Infinite during development. Now, Microsoft's 18 Month work contract wouldn't be bad for games with short development cycles (1-2 years or so), but when you're dealing with games with YEARS of development already behind their belt (i.e Halo Infinite, Starfield, Forza, etc). It really shows when the new guy has to take 6 months of his 18 contracted just to learn the tools, let alone learn what the previous people were working at. It's a practice that has made me lose my faith in Microsoft and I pray to God the same doesn't happen with the new Horizon 6 or Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024. You made the right decision to leave the Forza community when there's so much better racing games coming out soon with more welcoming communities (GT7 to PC/PSVR, Assetto Corsa Evo, Test Drive Unlimited: Solar Crown, and so on).

@meyers0781

4 күн бұрын

idk about GT, i didn't trust Sony either especially after the PSN debacle. AssCor is great, just be careful of the Steam Community, some lost their account with bans and scams. I even made a Proton Mail address so it helps to avoid leakage-based hacking TDUSC is promising, but again, watch out of the Steam Community.

@satsumagt5284

Күн бұрын

I believe their 18 month stuff will be the cause of a ton of enshittification. Can’t see it working out AT ALL

Honestly when I saw the trailer and heard "built from the ground up" and then saw the same wing we've had from the beginning... ya I called BS. I also quit playing when the transparency mod/program was banned... that people used to make photo realistic vinyls... yet other things are still not fixed, patched or banned. Sigh. It's a shame to see you go, but I 100% understand why. I myself honestly don't know if I'll buy another FM game in the future at this rate... Guess I can only hope Solar Crown isn't a failure like TDU2...

@mohidafzal3283

Ай бұрын

I remember the vinyl mod drama, their lame excuse to ban it was that it would give PC players an unfair advantage over Xbox players, but they won't bother making a vinyl creation system cause that's too much to ask

@superninja252

Ай бұрын

@@mohidafzal3283 the program wasnt banned, is still on limbo for 2 years already

@AirBRUH

17 күн бұрын

I have not a single hope for solar crown man, they've delayed the game so many times. The gameplay reveal was a disaster, the physics and ai looked ass and the driving looked mediocre at best, just another simcade handling model we've seen 1000 times before this. The map looks alright though.

It's not just misleading. The marketing flat out lied. They claimed they had to rescan the nordschleife and remake every track because the old models weren't detailed enough for the physics. The nordschleife, asside from the trackside detail, is the exact same mesh as FM5

@williamsuharja6687

Ай бұрын

They just throw 3d tree and that's it lmao

@somerandomdude2085

Ай бұрын

​@@williamsuharja6687don't forget the random light posts that completely ruin the immersion of racing at night lmfaooooo

@rosaria8384

Ай бұрын

​@@somerandomdude2085 As well as the unnecessary added graffiti that doesn't even appear in the real world, and also the missing Metzfeld tree. Forza disrespected the Nordschleife.

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

​@@williamsuharja6687more like 1.5D car models.

@SnowChickenFlake

Ай бұрын

That's just plain waiting for a lawsuit

By the way. A small brazillian studio by the name of Reiza Studios managed to get the license of some of the LMDh cars like the Cadillac and BMW and LeMans for their sim-racing title Automobilista 2. Not only they managed to do a very faithful recreation of these cars but also implement the most important aspect of them: the Hybrid system, which is STILL mysteriously absent in FM despite the hybrid system being almost 10 years old at this point and many other titles managing to replicate them. Makes you think

@rosaria8384

Ай бұрын

They even made the real Project Cars 3 tbh

@simeonyves5940

Ай бұрын

@@rosaria8384 Agreed. AMS2 is the true PCARS 3.

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

​@@simeonyves5940and PROJECT CARS 3 is basically Real Racing 3 should've been.

@simeonyves5940

Ай бұрын

@@purwantiallan5089 The Game that was called PCARS 3 was not even meant to be PCARS 3... it was indeed an Arcade Spin off Inspired by RR3, Forza Horizon, NFS SHiFT and PGR, that was going to be called PCARS Turbo! It was Ian Bell who made it a Numerical Sequel, and in doing so killed PCARS, and SMS, Stone Dead!

@SALEENS7GTR5

Ай бұрын

There's also a fantastic fan made mod in AM2 that uses IndyCars and implements them better than iRacing

Forza veteran here, completing every title since fm1. Switching to assetto corsa a few years ago, was the best move I made. I'll still play fm7 just for the multiplayer and having populated lobbies. AC and the upcoming AC Evo, will be more than enough.

It actually makes perfect sense to add Korean cars in a lunar new year update, since Koreans also celebrate lunar new year. It's not exclusively a Chinese holiday, contrary to what most people think.

@superninja252

Ай бұрын

pretty much most of east asia, execpt japan (even if adopt the animal year thing) celebrates it

@dso3635

18 күн бұрын

Thing is, Koreans have been trying to use the "Lunar" to get rid of the "Chinese" New Year for years, which makes many Chinese people uncomfortable. So maybe T10 was trying to please both groups, but the addition of the free Korean cars and paid Chinese car pack seemed to have the opposite effect.

This game being 6 years in "development" is crazy to me. They literally recycled everything from the older Forza titles, added 3 new things and called it a new game. And the worst part is that FM is a current-gen exclusive but it doesn't take advantage of the extra processing power. FH5 on the Xbox Series X looks absolutely gorgeous, but FM manages to look worse than FM5, somehow. Like, how do you manage to make a current-gen game look so bad? They could've released the new FM on past gen too and it would've looked "fine". If the Xbox Series X looked like the trailers and pre-release footage, you could at least excuse it being a current-gen exclusve, but no, it looks like shit. And I don't really mind games being a platform for car advertisement, if it is done right. I would love to see something similar to Need for Speed Porsche, where you actually learn and go trough the history of the brand instead of the game just being blatant advertisement. But that's asking too much from lazy Forza devs who can't be bothered doing something actually cool.

@seP4

Ай бұрын

just a poor raytracing implementation. all that processing power is being wasted

@kireta21

Ай бұрын

more like 5 years of development hell, followed by Microsoft giving Turn10 iron-clad deadline. Turn10 realised they're cooked, so they stitched assets flipped from previous games to what was possible to complete in time.

@seP4

Ай бұрын

the early private playtests took place on xbox one. it was never going to be BFTGU

@GamingRecords1

Ай бұрын

@@seP4BFTGU?

@IIIIIIXploitIIIIII

Ай бұрын

​@@GamingRecords1Built From The Ground Up

This hatred was built from the ground up 😤

@enju257

Ай бұрын

your comment was built from the ground up based on a video and his hatred that was built from the ground up on a game that was recycled from the ground up 😂

@M16_Akula-III

Ай бұрын

​@@enju257what

@st0zzers

Ай бұрын

Your comment was built from the ground up because his hatred is basic fact and knowledge on a game that was recycled from every aspect with no improvements and the toxic community racing leagues being toxic towards other players 🤣

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

​@@st0zzersKeke Tang while playing FM2023: BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP, DESU.

@kyperactive

Ай бұрын

@@st0zzers This comment was not built from the ground up, I wasnt hating his hatred for this game 😎

Unironcally found you from the driving in Tehran video. I feel like moving away is the best move. You have a lot of potential for other style of videos man. Keep going at it

its sad to see your forza videos go, even though your newer videos are a lot more fun (i have been saving the videos to a playlist so i can watch them later :) )

We are 100% in an abusive relationship with turn 10 , they keep telling us they can change and things will get better but we keep getting beaten up with broken games its been the same for years now

@UItimateGuitarCovers

Ай бұрын

That is so true

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

​@@UItimateGuitarCoversseems like FM2023 rivalling LoveLive School Idol Festival 2 Miracle live, NHL 15, F1 22, and FC 24 in terms of how broken the gameplay truly is.

@SALEENS7GTR5

Ай бұрын

Hate to shatter your bubble, but that's most game studios owned by shareholders. Lie, manipulate, "listen", fix something to tide the community over, and then leave everything else to rot. Actually, that's most corporations, as they continue to charge you more for less and worse products.

@MadKiwi22

Ай бұрын

@@SALEENS7GTR5 true turn 10 have been doing it since forza 4

@rosaria8384

Ай бұрын

@@SALEENS7GTR5 spot on

You can tell the reason he he took so long to upload but came with him cooking

@bionazariwe

Ай бұрын

he ain't cooking, bro straight up roasted the shit out of them

@timetobargeinandgivemyopin7260

Ай бұрын

What?

@tabibchy8005

Ай бұрын

He really cooked

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

The replay data in FM2023 is very broken like BIG RIGS OVER THE ROAD RACING.

@yak-machining

Ай бұрын

"he he" 🕺🏻

*Gets banned* *makes baller ass video calling out those who banned them and how there company sucks*

Thanks for your work and investigation. Just so you know, I contacted UFCQC and another french customers right protection society to ask about a hypothetical lawsuit for false advertising. According to french law and european law and of course MS terms of services (which isn't much relevant considering the Kelsen Law structure we have here which put contract rights below national laws and then make everything in the ToS irrelevant for us) and see how it goes, either stuff happen or doesn't, but we'll see about that. Have a good one mate :)

@meyers0781

4 күн бұрын

DMA/DSA was just a start, the final obstacle is CDA 230 (which is not only keeping UGC out of platform responsibility, which is to some extent, good, but also gives all the task of policing content to the corpos who owned the platform, which is as bad as it sounds), which corporates touted it's the "most important law*" (*loophole) but the US Govt are reluctant to repeal it just for the sake of sweet, sweet corporate tax income (not to mention the corporate spend billions, especially to activists, to promote CDA 230)

This puts into perspective how different GT's approach to its game was. GT Sport was, in fact, built from the ground up for next generation of consoles with very little of legacy stuff carried over (mostly the VGT car models). This explains why GTS had very little cars and tracks compared to previous entries (which reused a lot of cars from past generations) but it built a steady collection of cars and tracks that were built considering the 2, 3 games into the future and, lo and behold, they not only were reused in GT7 (as they were intended to) but improved upon as the physics and graphics engine were revamped for GT7 and new cars were added. Despite our feelings towards the direction of the single player portion of GT7, it's an amazing title and one that actually changed a lot of things from it's sibling game. You can see this if you play both titles back-to-back like I did.

@Fusion05

Ай бұрын

What's wrong with the single player mode?

@BDozer666

Ай бұрын

@@Fusion05 Watch Roflwaffle's video "How I Lost Faith in My Favourite Game (GT Critique Complete Series)"

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

​@@Fusion05singleplayer modes in GT SPORT and 7 are ONLINE ONLY even in offline mode.

@brokentilebench

Ай бұрын

​@@Fusion05The Cafe setup is a literal snooze fest, which is worsened by how slow and stupid the AI is. Mission races, license tests and circuit experience challenges are super fun though

@i_love_musique333

Ай бұрын

​@@brokentilebenchmost of the "licenses" don't even give you access to any new events

that ban deserves a lawsuit wtf

@seP4

Ай бұрын

thats why we're going after ubisoft

@Zippy_Zolton

Ай бұрын

@@seP4 I started doing everything I could the moment his latest video dropped

@WanganTunedKeiCar

Ай бұрын

@@Zippy_Zolton What is this referring to?

@Rage_Spammer

Ай бұрын

@@WanganTunedKeiCar Ross at Accursed Farms made a video detailing the legal actions people can take against Ubisoft shutting down The Crew. Basically comes down to France and maybe a couple other countries, US is a lost cause though. But, if any of these initiatives succeed, it could possibly scare companies away from essentially stealing people's games after they've purchased them.

@Zippy_Zolton

Ай бұрын

@@WanganTunedKeiCar the original comment? the ban he got for getting a glitch that was out of his control among Microsoft just not liking him for speaking the truth the other thing? look accursed farms up, huge deal happening

Holy cow man, what a sad and corrupt community. Everything surrounding this once great franchise has turned shit. And for what? Terrible player numbers? Fake positive reviews? What a sad legacy to have. I really believe the forza era is over. Time for something to replace it now.

6 years ago, as a PlayStation player, I would be kicking myself for not buying an Xbox to play Forza Horizon 4 or Forza Motorsport 7 Now, Im just here giggling at this pathetic excuse of a company with The Crew Motorfest and Gran Turismo 7 doing whatever the hell Forza ISN'T doing.

@pendremacherald6758

15 күн бұрын

I wouldn’t about The Crew.

@VintageCR

14 күн бұрын

bro i can't even play the crew its crazy. everytime i start the game, it simply refuses to go past the main menu. how is this better then any forza title? its been 4 months since i bought it, and still no improvement. such a overrated poorly optimized piece of trash game. yes im playing on PC, yes my pc is beefy, exceeding the recommended hardware by miles.

@bottomtext593

14 күн бұрын

@@VintageCR pretty sure that's a software issue on your PC cause it works just fine for me and everyone else

@Soxynos

10 күн бұрын

Well since the last update, the game has become kinda unstable. I played with Akor and some of his friends during two of his streams, and needless to say, each version of the game has his problems. Me on PS5, my game crashes when I spend too much time in the livery editor and sometimes in the middle of grand races. Also, I get a lot of glitching textures (tires, liveries, car interior). Akor on PC has game crashes in the middle of grand races as well, and when trying to invite friend through the game menu. One of his mods, Who's on Xbox, has connectivity issue and no engine sounds very frequently. Worst part is, before the last update, everything worked just fine. However, it's not unplayable, far from it.

Genuinely praying for turn10s downfall 🤲

@rosaria8384

Ай бұрын

Same. They don't deserve to develop further since this is what they chose to do Edit: Turn 10 should have been shut down in the recent layoffs tbh, but no

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

Turn10 Studios i belive gonna be shutdown in 2024 because of how awful FM2023 truly is despite Luke Reilly gave it an 8.7/10. RIP TURN10.

@FranquitoMV2004

Ай бұрын

Where do i sign?

@racingraptor4758

Ай бұрын

They used to be good. But as it is with every big game studio nowdays all the old devs left and they re just riding on their brand without any passion... they all have to go to make space for new passionates

Oh man I cant wait till 12/31/9999 when SP4 finally gets unbanned

@rishovthegamer93

Күн бұрын

His 20th-90th grand children will play

Thanks for all the work you put into all the videos that will be unIisted. I hope they learn from the current state of the franchise, it’s an absolute confusing mess. And yes, absolutely more than just a sc@m

Thank you for these videos, hopefully the playlist will be visible on your channel somewhere.

Turn 10 has successfully made both of us give up on the series and stop making videos.

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

Turn 10 Studios: BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP. Ren Hazuki to FM2023: R U SURE ABOUT THAT?

@FranquitoMV2004

Ай бұрын

Im sorry for you man😢

@MrHerbs666

Ай бұрын

I miss the days when the worst we had was team drama and laptimes. Fm4 was the goat. Fm6 was ok. I also just hate that I recognized the gamer tags talking trash about sepi. It's embarrassing tbh

@AhmadGalalYT

Ай бұрын

I'm on the verge of giving up too, retired

@rosaria8384

Ай бұрын

I'm about to uninstall FH5 tbh, if it weren't for my many pending photography projects

I hope those words “Built from the ground up” haunt them forever.

@privateinformation2960

Ай бұрын

"It just works!" "Yes the game absolutely will have multiplayer" "What? You guys dont have mobile phones?" Yeah if people havent noticed, publishers treat you all like retards.

You know what I pre order this game then just before launch i refunded it. That was the greatest thing i ever did to save money. It cost me 5,000 something Indian rupees for the standard edition which is enough to live through a day. The trailer screemed "bad game with bad UI"

10:25 Yup, there's no MOTORSPORT in a MOTORSPORT with a MOTORSPORT title in it.

The most painful 70€ of my life. I regret every fucking euro

@No-vq1iv

Ай бұрын

Enough to request a refund? Because otherwise your regret means jack shit.

@happydemmoman

Ай бұрын

@@No-vq1iv "i regret every fucking euro" what do you think that means? of course he's gonna refund the fucking game jackass

@NVegianP

Ай бұрын

i made this mistake too. im a child with fuck all money and i absolutely loathe whoever priced this shitty game. i ended up buying fm7 for €30 with a key

@NikosM112

Ай бұрын

You and me both. I could've used that money to go travel for a weekend out of my comfort zone and actually experience life. I'm not buying another aaa game ever again in my life. I'll stick to esports titles which are free such as rocket racing, revolt and trackmania.

@AbdAbdAbdAbd

Ай бұрын

wear the pirate's hat next time folks, ill keep on seeding FH5 for anyone who wants it🏴‍☠️

I've been following your videos from before FH5 came out and I've always enjoyed your content, providing a bit of comfort when I was stressing at Uni. It's shit with everything that's happened with PTG and the witch-hunt against you from T10, and I can see it has taken a bit of a toll on you with the change in tone of videos you used to make. I hope this move treats you well and I wish you all the absolute best for your future endeavours Sepi.

@seP4

Ай бұрын

it's fine. could be a lot worse

@fastestmonkey6259

Ай бұрын

@@seP4 Heck, we should be thankful fm turned out as good as it did, I got a gut feeling in a somewhat parallel universe it would have been just fm5 with a different name! i'm sorry to see you go sepi, you will be missed!

@ShivanshEdla

Ай бұрын

@@seP4 Ik you probably won't respond to this, but are you going to put the old forza vids on your second channel or delete them permanently?

@xasumiji

Ай бұрын

@@seP4 Just like how Clarkson would say "Still.. Could be worse"

@SpearmintSerpent

27 күн бұрын

@@fastestmonkey6259 FM5 with a different name would have been a genuine improvement.

Another thing that has been normalized is games getting better through their live service span, instead of being functional on day 1

@iAmCodeMonkey

16 сағат бұрын

This should be higher. Agree 100%

That "totally unbiased and fair" ban is a blessing in disguise. Who the hell would want to play FM anyways? I look forward to seeing your videos on some wacky obscure racing games in the future

We lost a legend today. The farther you go into Microsoft the more corruption there is.😢

@TurboAlice

Ай бұрын

It's always been like that with Microsoft.

@Housesider

Ай бұрын

@@TurboAlice Legit. Bill Gates himself, if you read up on what he was actually like outside of his public nice-guy persona, was an almost cartoonishly-evil despot at times during the early days of his career. He's far from the only one in silicon valley who was like that, but still, can't say I'm too surprised at M$ being such a terrible company when it was/is ran by such morally bankrupt loonies.

@purwantiallan5089

Ай бұрын

​@@TurboAliceMicrosoft in 2000s: Challenge everything. Microsoft in 2023: DESTROY EVERYTHING WITH "BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP".

They probably gonna annoy KZread with emails to take this video down because “our game is built from the ground up.” Honestly, if this is the standard for today’s racing games, then the genre is screwed.

@NikosM112

Ай бұрын

Play futuristic esports title racing games such as revolt, trackmania and rocket racing. I don't bother with aaa racing games anymore.

@advadv-lb8in

Ай бұрын

Not just racing but for all games and it makes me sad

@xninja2369

Ай бұрын

@@NikosM112 💯

@Zhawn7

Ай бұрын

​@@NikosM112 Wait, Revolt has an eSports scene?

@rosaria8384

Ай бұрын

The genre is already screwed for years now.

And this is why piracy exists, because why "PAY" for something that will never be yours in the literal sense, not to mention the game is not finished, it's a buggy mess and people working on it are complete deekheads... YAAAARRR FTW. Worst money I have EVER spent in my life.

Really going to miss your Forza content, still had some hope for a return. You were hands-down the most useful resource for technical stuff and there isn't anyone quite like you out there. Your tunes always were so much fun to drive competitively. Genuine shame how you've been mistreated. Best of luck in the future!

remember when games only took 2 years tops to develop and they were amazing?

@tandris1085

Ай бұрын

yea, if fh3 was developed in 2 years, how was this made in 6 years

@liesideways

Ай бұрын

They were also made for CRT tvs and ran at 720p

@hertzwave8001

Ай бұрын

@@liesideways crazy in hindsight how those werent uncommon during the fm3 fm4 days

@liesideways

Ай бұрын

​@@hertzwave8001i mean to say game dev has changed, games aren't being made for crt monitors anymore so no point in comparing. Most Wanted 2005 was 2.9 gigabytes in total but in Horizon 5, the combined data of four cars can be more than that.

@De_kaid

Ай бұрын

@@liesideways Eh, file size just isn't a comparison point at all tho, just bc they use multiple uncompressed 8k textures for a plain yellow car doesn't mean that they're much higher detail. Most recent example is the Star Wars Battlefront classics collection, those devs increased the games filesize to a ridiculous degree with barely a noticable change...

a note about braking, irl braking is very consistent for drivers as you basically train to brake as much as possible without locking wheels, so basically every real life race driver brakes to the limit of wheel lock nearly perfect (not all the time, but the consistency is up there)

Please leave the old videos as they are. You have been an excellent resource for me for info to help my racing and tuning in FH4 and 5 with tools I don’t have

@RealThomasFoolery

Ай бұрын

Yeah, he should at least reupload them on a different channel or whatever.

@TheTimoprimo

Ай бұрын

@@RealThomasFoolery The videos will be on a public playlist.

Well, that's that, I guess. I have had a lot of controversies in the course of playing FH5, but nothing as big as yours. It's strange, but I do owe you a thank you for helping me realize that the Forza community is not exactly a good place to be around in. I avoided super competitive Forza racing becasue I want to avoid controversy, and even that isn't enough. I feel bad that you are being targeted in Forza since back in the FH4 days. From just playful ramming to actual drama to target harassment is insane, while actually provding useful in game information as well as good criticism to the game. Yet, other people are jealous/can't accept negavtive feedback and decided to silence you. In the end, I want to say thank you for improving my playing experience in FH5. I understand your decision to leave Forza behind, as it is clear that you have suffered from enough unjust hate, accusations, and bullying to you from this community. I hope that you're able to find something that you truly like to do, and move on in your life. I wish the best for you, and even though your Forza content will be gone soon, I'll definitely stick around for your future uploads. They are very good videos and do way better than your Forza videos. Take care Sepi. I wish you all the best. 🙏

@seP4

Ай бұрын

thanks, but to me internet drama is just tiring and time consuming. could be a lot worse

@shogunmyoung9932

Ай бұрын

@@seP4 True. But whatever it may be, moving on from this is the right decision. It's not worth your time sticking around in a community that despises you. Also I'm looking forward to your future uploads. They are really good and I like them.

@linkfreeman1998

Ай бұрын

​@@seP4at this point, let it be known that playing multiplayer games with crappy fanbase is a bad idea. Might as well not to play them at all.

@FakeJeep

Ай бұрын

I think the drama exists in every game regardless of genre. I've been up there in Halo, Destiny and Mech Warrior communities... and the more your name gets noticed, the more you get involved and the more you learn... the more drama appears. God I still remember being a new clanner and wanting to know what all the drama was about... until I was high up and could only sigh over group voice at the drama. The petty shit they're doing against Sepi though? Really BS.... legit makes me not want to buy another T10 game.

@linkfreeman1998

Ай бұрын

@@FakeJeep the hard but surely way to enjoy the games minus the drama is not to try and connect with the community. U decide whether the game is good or not by using game reviews and or ur own experience.

People calling trigger locks cheating are essentially calling a good 25% of the competetive community cheating. a lot of people have it built into their gamepads, and nobody speaks out against it when they do it

@yoyogavri7253

Ай бұрын

Yeah…

@BrunodeSouzaLino

Ай бұрын

Imagine these people entering inside a race car and being all confused when they see bolts behind the pedals which are used to limit pedal travel....

@BrunodeSouzaLino

Ай бұрын

Real race cars do have travel limiters on their pedals as well.

@abrokenpal

Ай бұрын

I stuck a toilet paper under my right trigger

@zenksren8206

Ай бұрын

It's like calling using turbo buttons on the Turbografx/PC Engine cheating, they're literally a feature of the official controller. If they want to complain to anyone, complain to their daddy MS for making it a feature of their controllers, oh right, they don't want to bite the hand

I remember getting my new PC and after having been a Sony loyalist sonce birth who wanted to play Forza for the longest time, I went to get FM7, found out they had removed it from the store, and then decided I no longer wanted to play Forza, because if im going to spend $70 on a game I want to have fun while doing it.

What was advertised has not been delivered to paying customers of the product and there is no projection on if it will ever be provided. Also known as Fraud.

This goes beyond simple bad game design this is straight up a crime.

man its like we never left high school instead the headmaster got shot and the new headmaster is a toddler

As a former forza and current Gran Turismo fan, I’m disappointed in FM. I wanted forza to succeed to entice competition so both Sony and Microsoft can learn to improve and engage creative avenue with updates and future game releases But due to Turn 10 and Playground Games + Microsoft/ Xbox current gaming mindset and incompetence, it’s sad to see a studio fallen.

You have hit the nail on the head. This is clearly an advertisement and not a game. Probably why they couldn't delay again cos the contracts with the companies would run out and they would have to pay them. Microsoft's over reliance on contractors is gonna end them if they don't stop using them.

FM is worse than GT for gaming. The basic penalty mechanic is enough to set these 2 titles miles apart. In GT you have penalty serving each lap, thus forcing bad players to the back and not ruin further the good player's race. In FM it just adds a credit penalty which will be then added at the end, so you can have a bad player forcing good players off track in the top spots, sending those bad players way back to the back of the pack over and over, ruining their gaming, and that aggressive player to receive a moderate pentaly that may set them back maybe one place or two. People have literally stopped qualifying because of the murder fest in the first corners where top grid placed players get collected by the angry horde behind...and this doesn't stop because that angry mob continues to fight in the top places even after lap 2 or 3.

@LickmaBalls-bs7if

Ай бұрын

the only problem with the GT's penalty system is that a 0.5 sceonds penalty could be a 1.5 seconds penalty since it makes you brake at the start of a straight line and in GT sport there were dirty players that when they served their penalty would try to get themself hit so like that they would gain an advantage (I played GT sport since release and peaked at A(close to A+ or S)for driver rating and S in safety rating) GT's penalty system is still garbage considering the 2020 or 2019 era when they had a nice penalty system and ruined it for the rest of the game (at the end there were no penalty at all for contact hopefully the community was great)

this is more than a scam!

@mr-monk273

Ай бұрын

Yeah

@hexafluoride9899

Ай бұрын

This is a fraudulent scheme!!!

@Payday5

Ай бұрын

10 years in the joint made you a fucking scammer

@Callist0

Ай бұрын

fr Chris Esaki needs at least 10 years in the joint

@Payday5

Ай бұрын

10 years in the joint made you a frickin scammer

4 times the graphics, 16 times the physics.

I wish other major racing oriented KZreadrs could bring this stuff up, so as to maybe fix some of the issues that plague the Forza series, and also the gaming industry as a whole. Obviously none of them ever will, as it would hurt their reputation with Turn 10 and that means less money for said content creators. It just feels like they're too afraid to speak against the developers/publishers, even though in the long run it would benefit them and the community as a whole. At least quite a few people are chiming in on the situation with The Crew, and the blatant theft of the 'online only' practice may be ended or at the very least altered in some way.

Sony should see this dumpster fire and give us GT7 for PC.

@Eat-MyGoal

Ай бұрын

Pity, but I reckon they'll plan on benefiting from more PS5 sales to disgruntled FM players who want to flip to GT7

@linkfreeman1998

Ай бұрын

Dont bother. We need more things like BeamNG instead.

@PCTutorialz

Ай бұрын

@@linkfreeman1998 beamng is a sim tho

@snoopyshultz

Ай бұрын

i think they want to but i think it's technically impossible or would cost too much money to port it to pc to even make a profit. maybe the next one they can develop from the ground up for pc/ps

@De_kaid

Ай бұрын

Kinda difficult when their own game is a similar dumpster fire, you can still only access like half the content of GT Sport (not even including multiplayer, the vinyl editor that would've worked fine without internet or the hidden LAN option they used for tournaments), so why trust those people?

“Built from the ground up” ☝️👷

@yak-machining

19 күн бұрын

"build from the ground down"

i would love how sim racing compares to pixel perfect runs people do in trackmania without using bots. its same issue.

Please dont delete your forza videos. I watch them time to time.

@SALEENS7GTR5

Ай бұрын

Others will probably reupload them since Sepi announced they're taking the videos down.

@SpearmintSerpent

27 күн бұрын

He is unlisting them, they will still be available, just in a playlist instead of on his channel.

Sepi, I want you say thank you for what you contributed to the Forza community, or at least my Forza knowledge. No other person has had more effect on my understanding of the game than you did in your videos. You have won me many Open championships. I get why you are ditching it though after what they put you through for no good reason.

Growing up on Forza Motorsport, literally starting on the first game when I was like 6, and seeing how the series has risen and fallen is sad. What a game, what a history, ruined by greed. A common occurance in the modern world of game development.

Forza Motorsport bftgu should be a case study on bad project management and business decisions for all to study

1:32 that screenshot looks like it came from some old nfs like undercover or even carbon/mw

@Zentafix

Ай бұрын

funny enough Carbon Redux (fan mod) looks better then this junk xD

Y'all aint getting mad enough about the 18 month contracts to avoid paying benefits. That's beyond greedy and scummy. It's just outright exploitation. And the products are suffering for it.

Everything about this video, from the subtitles explaining every detail, to constant evidence to back up what you're saying, its pretty good stuff! every inch of that game/community just reeks of a long dead franchise. sad but inevitable

Found a comment where you said you'll continue making content It seems many people received this video as a farewell to your audience, which I don't blame them for I was a lil confused too Glad you'll keep posting stuff every now and then! I'm here for the creator not the specific content series

I'm still pissed at myself for pre-ordering this shit.

@flee4urlives

Ай бұрын

me too

@FakeJeep

Ай бұрын

I learned my lessen preordering games after Halo 5, Cyberpunk and so forth... DON'T PREORDER GAMES. -stares at halo 5 limited edition box with disdain-

@TurboAlice

Ай бұрын

The red flags were already there, not sure why you still insisted on pre ordering it.

@agentdiamond9211

Ай бұрын

​@@FakeJeep I preorder Monster Hunter, but that's something else entirely.

@SALEENS7GTR5

Ай бұрын

Destiny 2 Lightfall taught me to never preorder again. I didn't do it much before that, but what is expected on launch and what we get has gotten so much worse in the past 6 years

To be fair, I never expected this game to be better than FM7. Just look at how the game industry itself had a major downgrade. Before 2018+/- they actually wanted to evolve, make better games, and do everything that was possible with the hardware they were provided with (Rockstar is a great example of it). Now, look everything after around that time (especially after 2020), companies only care about cutting costs and corners to make the laziest game possible for the biggest profit they can get. There's no passion for making games anymore. They just make any live service lazy game, sell for full price, and then expect people to be happy with it.

I remember trying the new motorsport with my friends a couple months ago, i was super excited because i had just gotten the new xbox. I was so disappointed I can't explain it. I really don't race competitively like you to avoid people like who you mentioned in this video, but it was so bad. There were days we couldnt even get the online to work so we could race together. I used to love playing motorsport, but now I stick to horizon, and even then I play way less of that than i used to when, say horizon 3 was still being updated. I think that was the last one I had thousands of hours in. I will always have fond memories of the forza series, but I am at the point where not only are the quality of my favorite games are going off a cliff, but I have less and less time to play xbox. I think it will only be a couple of months until I also just give up and move on. Sad to think about, but we've all got to move on at some point, and I am just about ready to leave forza for good. I'll probably still occasionally play the games I already have, but I can't see myself buying any more forza titles let alone renewing my gamepass subscription thing every month anymore. I watched your videos for a couple years now I think, not sure when I first watched you. But farewell sp4.

ill be honest, ive been using AIO to fuck around in online lobby's, we are talking max acceleration and speedhacking around corners. I've been doing it for over 3 months and fuck all has happened to my account. The fact that I can ram some poor child off the track at 500 kph and nothing happens is such a glaring issue with whatever system they have going on behind the scenes its honestly astounding that these people host professional tournaments. To this day I've had 2 bans on my Xbox account both being in horizon, 1 for adding cars early and the other for setting ridiculous speeds on speedtraps, both of which lasted for less than a month each. Genuinely disgusted at the lack of moderation. Makes you think they really don't care about their games

@tandris1085

Ай бұрын

further proves that forza devs just hate sepi

@zamn3710

Ай бұрын

I've been reporting a couple of known cheaters since the past few weeks and yeah, they just throw the same copypasta at me that action has been taken, just for me to meet them the next day cheating their ass off. It's rare nowadays to find a lobby that doesnt have atleast one cheater or rammer. Tickets also stay open for weeks if not a month atleast.

@rosaria8384

Ай бұрын

This is why I keep playing solo since launch

@Hoshino_szr

Ай бұрын

I have used speed hacks and cheated wheelspins in FH as well. Absolutely nothing happened. The funniest part is, I did it with a free trainer that I found online

@zenksren8206

Ай бұрын

Well this takes a shit all over that one smooth brain's comment here saying "Hurrhurr complaining about getting banned for cheating lol"

the thing THE MOST ANNOYED ME, is that when Forza 8 release, THEY BLOCKED me from installing or playing forza 7, this is really a dick move, i have a CD with the game and unninstalled briefly to make room for forza 6 (digital) witch worked fine, but when i re installed, i simply couldnt... this has nothing to do with internet connection OR disk state, because it was in perfect state...

@electricboltz9028

Ай бұрын

wait so if I buy a physical copy of fm7 and go to insert it into my series x your telling me it won't do anything?

@PedroHenriquePS00000

Ай бұрын

@@electricboltz9028 when forza m. Released yes, it didnt do anything for like a full month, now it came back to normal

@electricboltz9028

Ай бұрын

@wd5vd I can also confirm the game works for me too. so I have no idea what happened to the other person. probably they got banned or something

thank you for all the great and critical content. I hope i can still use your tuning guide videos, they help me a lot when trying to build my own tunes.

Its a shame that Forza Motorsport series went downhill. Almost feel like regretting getting a series S. Anyway I’ll wait until GT7 comes out on steam or hop on AMS2.

@rosaria8384

Ай бұрын

Highly recommend waiting for AC Evo, while getting AMS2. Forza needs to be put to rest at this point

1 thing i hate about the forza franchise both motorsport and horizon use total players in the ads, but they never use the current player base because it probably isnt even 1 million a day but they will say 15 million people play horizon 5 even though 14 million of those accounts are probably game pass users who played the game for 10-20 minutes and haven't touched it since

Modern gaming is irredeemable.

@michaelvelez6699

Ай бұрын

Evenn scammers studios like Turn 10 that is the example of these damage

@rosaria8384

Ай бұрын

True!

@haaxxx9

Ай бұрын

Thank god that I still have my 360 and my PS3, brand new consoles lost all of my interest now.

@namesii1880

Ай бұрын

It is. But thankfully you can easily ignore everything these massive studios put out and still have more good games to play than you have time for.

@racingraptor4758

Ай бұрын

Thats why it has to go trought crisis (already is deep in one) and fall (its going to fall very soon) so it can be reborn again thanks to passionates.

Psss both forza horizon and fm can be easily pirated and u will get all dlcs and u will be able to play normally like players that bought the game

Yay, waiting you on weekly dose of crashday matches, man

not all games need to be live service its shit

oh boy, i really only have one question sepi, what can we expect from you going forward. sim racing? other video game genres? or maybe video essays?

@seP4

Ай бұрын

indie and older racing games

@Joe_Mama911

Ай бұрын

@@seP4 alright ill stick around

So I raced in the FM7 Enduro community you’ve brought up from 2020-2023. My team was usually a high B low A lobby team and we would spend hours perfecting tunes for the various enduros only to be getting gapped by over a second consistently per lap. There would also be people who were never anything special but then all of a sudden would be massively quicker. Yet anytime we tried these “Pro tunes” they were horrid to drive. With some of the stuff you brought up it makes me wander about stuff. Thanks for the video tho as it sums up how me and 95% of my team feel. Cheers!

All these elitism for a game that barely follows actual motorsport traditions. These people are shooting themselves in the foot because us in the Assetto Corsa community are laughing at these pricks who think they're any better. If they like to stare at someone's gameplay to prove if they're cheating or not, why don't they just invest that time into playing a proper simulator like iRacing or rFactor? Either way, the game is going down the shitter. Horizon has the upper-hand now and would probably become Forza's identity.

please dont unlist the other videos :(

@tbsmoke1463

Ай бұрын

AGREED!!!!

@seP4

Ай бұрын

they will be in a public playlist

@kaly_osu

Ай бұрын

​@@seP4 that's good, they have a lot of useful information that no other channel has

i abandoned forza when 5 ended up being so soulless. i'm so sick of turn10, and this just sheds more light on things. i know you're unlisting and leaving forza behind, but your content is always really great in the time i've been subbed (few months i'd guess), so i really hope you find a new game and/or series to call home and keep posting, and i hope you find it soon.

Hello, Sepi, i'm a big fan. Can you please tell us, when new episodes of "I Cheated in Pro Forza E-sports" series come out? I thought you'll make a videos about another cheating in FH5 and FM Logitech event.

@seP4

Ай бұрын

every point i made in the previous video still stands and sadly nothing has changed

@ChaserX90

Ай бұрын

@@seP4 did you not record you cheating on your main or your alt then? shame, I was very excited for this video!!

Bro this is a whole ass documentary, congrats

The story behind this game is somehow worse than the story behind driving in tehran

@rosaria8384

Ай бұрын

Sepi even called this the game that followed Dr Sami's footsteps in the ending of that video. It makes more sense now

@flehbury908

Ай бұрын

@@rosaria8384 yeah i remember that

WAKE UP SEPI FINALLY UPLOADED

Bro the drama is insane. But you stay cooking sepi🔥

I was one of the few who was invited to test/play this game in the beta playtest server and this game is absolute garbage, I feel betrayed, completely out of my mind for buying the $100 game, I’m glad I haven’t played this game since November

you know, its probably for the best to forget about forza franchise entirely, it was made as a cashgrab in the first place, a simple attempt to rival an actual passionate studio that makes great games and cares about their playerbase. so it was getting worse by the year, by each release, after all, forza motorsport died after 4, and horizon after 3. now that being said, i wish you the best of luck in your other games video making shenanigans, hope you keep your enthusiasm about the racing games genre and help improve it in some way or another, also sorry if you had a stroke reading this lol

@seP4

Ай бұрын

thanks, i'll try

@ShivanshEdla

Ай бұрын

I completely agree. Although I think the devs were passionate in the first couple games, it has taken a huge tumble ever since the XBOX One era started with fm5

@liesideways

Ай бұрын

What's your problem with Horizon 4?

@audi-71830

Ай бұрын

​@@liesideways it ruined future Forza titles by showing PG and T10 that casuals are going to eat up the least amount of content they could possibly be given and they will defend it no matter what, that's why FH5 is basically the same as FH4 and is probably also why T10 didn't care about FM

@aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21

Ай бұрын

Well, the creator of gran turismo said he's looking into the future so he doesn't care as much about the playerbase now But all the playerbase is really doing is begging for a gran turismo 4 remaster, if I was him I'd probably ignore too

I don't see how Motorsport will keep getting updates for years at this point. Pretty sure it'll get abandoned before the end of the year. I hope Horizon doesn't end up like this in the future

@s0ciopath_

Ай бұрын

if a single trailer for fh6 has built from the ground up in it ima just not play it but i hope it will be good cuz the current creative director is making fh5 great again

Honestly, I know it's old, and EA pulled it off the store, but Project Cars 2 is a superior game. It has absolutely *glorious* graphics(some of the best I've seen in any sim title), very satisfying handling, and amazing throttle inputs. It's good enough that I can manage to *not* be shit on a controller. On top of that, PC2's replay system is a visual spectacle, and it shows everything-from accurate telemetry within the car, gaps, tire heat, etc. And, on top of that? You can turn off the HUD, racing lines, positions, telemetry, everything, for a more raw experience. I will never understand why EA ditched Slightlymad's pet project, because it's genuinely fucking incredible. I really hope that Ian Bell's new pet project, GTRevival, is as good as Project Cars 2, and hopefully, better.

@Chris-sm2uj

Ай бұрын

Ian Bell is a hack and GTRevival will be terrible

Hello. I just found this video. I don't know who u r, and can't prove how accurate this video is since I'm just a casual gamer. I've never bought a Forza game before but have played Fh4 and Fh5 a little bit. however even with all this in mind, I'm surprised how deep this apparent scam lore goes. hats off to u for being so dedicated to ur craft, such that u pick up even the tiniest issues from what I can judge. it's a bit understandable how much frustrated u have become seeing as u know a lot about how big of a scam this is. we can't see that bcoz we r casual players who only saw the surface and thought that it's a fine game which just needs updates and polish. but from what I saw in this video, the scam tunnel is DEEP! thank you for exposing everything. I probably won't be buying this game now even though I had plans before. but what do u think about Forza Horizon 6. should I look forward to it as I'm just a casual who wants to enjoy racing games? thanks for any advice and ur efforts 🙂

At this point - Why not just quitting it and leaving the dumpsterfire behind. I am not any longer playing FM, just like so many other people. And I'm close to quit FH5 as well. It's kind of sad, as it's the franchise that literally formed my childhood and young adulthood. But maturing is realizing that there is more or there. Edit: Okay I should have watched the video first to the end. Great choice, but kind of sad to see you removing the truth from KZread. I have learned much from your videos and would love to see them somehow preserved.

21:40 there's no way to understand if a lap is cheated even with telemetry tbh, in ACC many tournaments ask for it but you really can't tell much considering the cheaters run such light ones that those could be easily mistaken for driving/setup differences. So guys sepi is right, cheating is borderline impossible to find out in racing games without an anticheat

@St1llUnkn0wn

Ай бұрын

Wouldn't recording base stats of every car before the race and running a simulation based on telemetry can tell if there's something off? (Assuming server's tickrate remain consistent)

@podio_km4g532

Ай бұрын

@@St1llUnkn0wn server tickrate on ACC is kinda low and the game is non deterministic. Plus replay data suffers more or less of the same problem FM has, we have minor speed discrepancies but those are enough to fuck up everything

@St1llUnkn0wn

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@@podio_km4g532 Ah, atleast we know the solution is literally right there(?). We're only missing devs that really care about their game.

@podio_km4g532

29 күн бұрын

@@St1llUnkn0wn ofc it's right there, iracing does have a working anticheat