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@SingularityHRT

3 жыл бұрын

I have made this Guide on Succession taking a much deeper look at how each step is calculated and laid out. Do have a look. forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/succession-laws-explained.1419049/

@velociking20industries42

3 жыл бұрын

So, if I hold an empire title, and 50% of another empire, it will create that empire for one of my other kids? I was confused cause I held almost all of a kingdom title, and when I died, that title wasn't created, perhaps because I didn't have any personal domain land within it so that kid would have de jure land?

@SingularityHRT

3 жыл бұрын

@@velociking20industries42 It will be created if You have more than 50% of the De Jure counties under that Empire and if You have atleast two Eligible Children. You need not hold any domain there.

@attrition0

3 жыл бұрын

Meneth has indeed confirmed the title succession trick is a bug to be fixed (same rules should be treated as a single succession)

@WildGhiron

3 жыл бұрын

Even if gender law does get fixed there's a simple workaround I'm using on my current playthrough... it might also be a bug to be fixed, but I doubt it. By taking Scandinavian, Tanistry or Saxon elective laws for the secondary duchy that would be lost upon succession you can choose your realm and primary heir to receive everything. You can force other counts to vote as you do (hooks, diplomacy and dread) or you can simply have more votes than they do by increasing development on your own counties (being the only voter if you hold to every county on that duchy works best though). *What the game is currently doing is giving both duchy and every county held by the former duke to the elected person. I don't think that is a bug unlike the gender one because the election itself is much broader and not limited to your offspring.* This is particularly effective as my domain is always the same it is 100% developed for the current culture level for every regular, duchy or special building. In effect this is primogeniture... with partition law. But better, only opinion boosts and no penalties. *To sum up; under **_Partition_** you keep your empire, main king, main duchy and main county capital title (and every barony that you hold on that county) by regular sucession and hold unto the second duchy and its counties by establishing a simple election law, voting for your Realm heir and making sure he or she gets elected.* As a side note, this system also helped me to keep together my second empire title when I unawares conquered too much land in Italy under Confederate Partition. Had to establish elective succession, kept it together for two kings in a row (which required much diplomacy, many executions and a lot of blackmailing... electors for a duchy are no more than 7, for a kingdom it's a different matter...) and once Partition was available I just deleted the secondary empire and kept everything together under one single title.

I didn’t know you’d need a bachelor in history to play this game successfully

@Makrateli

3 жыл бұрын

History? More like math

@DuffmaneB

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I felt like I should take notes and make flow charts.

@vardansimonyan966

3 жыл бұрын

i would say u need an MA on medieval history

@AStrangeTree

3 жыл бұрын

I mean it’s pretty simple. Like he said, the fundamental idea of confederate partition is the notion that all kids of the king deserve an equal inheritance, and the game will attempt to distribute titles to that end

@WillayG

3 жыл бұрын

To play any paradox game you need a triple major in history, mathematics and law. The developers just assume everyone has those.

Im a old school ruler. All my annoying heirs disappeared

@ReconQ8

3 жыл бұрын

That’s intriguing

@ankittakle5244

3 жыл бұрын

@@ReconQ8 I see what you did there...

@demonetized6837

2 жыл бұрын

That's the approach I've had to take until watching this video. My offspring will breathe freely (if at all) now. No more need to imprison everyone and sacrifice them to Odin.

@fengwang4742

Жыл бұрын

I let all younger sons be monks so they do not have to slaughter each other. Inner peace at last.

3:14 Cause of death: "He Debug." God I love Paradox games lol

@spaska12

3 жыл бұрын

He probably used a cheat to kill him for the video thus the message. Funny as fuck though

@josephdawson9461

3 жыл бұрын

kill

@EriIaz

3 жыл бұрын

Insecticides are toxic enough lol

@2Scribble

3 жыл бұрын

He Pug He Hug But Most importantly He Debug!

This really hurt as a powerful tribal. One minute I hold the Empire of Russia, a great deal of Scandinavia, and 12 holdings, all of a sudden my 14 children divvy everything up and I'm left with 1 holding, and Scandinavia goes independent. And with the really low levies tribal vassals offer, went down to a fourth of my army.

@CanadianStig990

3 жыл бұрын

This is the essence of this game. Is to make yourself as powerful as possible when the ruler dies. (Without using exploits of course). Managing Succession is a key aspect of this game. And it was how it was in real life back in time too.

@DoubleBizzy

3 жыл бұрын

14 children?!? But your renown, oh yeah!

@jvy012896

3 жыл бұрын

Thats the best part. Not every game has to be about world domination, and painting the map with your kingdom.

@NZIGNANTI

3 жыл бұрын

@@jvy012896 Painting the map with your dynasty is much more pleasing.

@admontblanc

3 жыл бұрын

@@CanadianStig990 which is why at some point kings realized that it's actually more advantageous, in dynastic terms, to have less children, and to make bastards as a side hustle as insurance policy. Funny how the "cheesy exploits" are actually historically accurate.

Me: "I'll just destroy all my secondary Kingdom titles, so all my sons stay Duke vassals..." Game: "Haha, free Kingdoms for everyone!"

@ungegelter31

3 жыл бұрын

Literally what I'm trying to figure out.. Started out as the Jarldom of Oppland, counquered the entirety of the Kingdom of Norway and founded it, worked my way up towards Sapmi, and when I died, my heir got Norway and the second in line got the Kingdom of Sapmi founded for him.. How can I die in peace without letting the realm be splintered? I just wanna make an empire

@Marconius6

3 жыл бұрын

@@ungegelter31 I don't think you CAN, that's kind of the point of partition succession. You basically just have to declare war on your sibling and take their crown by force.

@ungegelter31

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marconius6 well shit... I didn't do all that conquering just to lose it?? How am I supposed to ever get the Empire of Scandinavia up and running when my sibling is given equal forces to mine?

@molybdaen11

3 жыл бұрын

@@ungegelter31 You could disingerit them if you are heard of the dynasty. Otherwise send them into battle or use the "special inherritant rule" trick in this video for your 2 duchys.

@ungegelter31

3 жыл бұрын

@@molybdaen11 costs a fortune to disinherit them tho :o I guess I just need to be very careful about how many claimants I'm creating :P Although I'm not playing like the guys I see in videos. I run at 5 speed most of the time and pause a lot unless there's battles that need to be carefully controlled

Ah yes the "i don't know what i'm doing" game

@molybdaen11

3 жыл бұрын

"Where did england gone? I just # around with the queen and her daughters for 20 jears."

@bvansenu

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, CK3 is ever so much more user friendly than the last one. So much easier to manage everything.

@0michelleki020

3 жыл бұрын

@@bvansenu True, but the brutal defficulty of CK2 is one of the appealing things tbh.

@comicsans1689

3 жыл бұрын

@@bvansenu Yea, I found CK3 much easier to get into and I'm enjoying it more than CK2. It also helps that it's more feature rich at launch.

@WarlordM

3 жыл бұрын

@@bvansenu too easy

This game has pushed me to murder my own kids in an attempt to keep my empire alive after my death, 10/10 makes you feel like an actual medieval king

@Respbury

2 жыл бұрын

It doesnt make sense either

@CanBonamaVEVO

2 жыл бұрын

@@Respbury ottomans literally legalized killing ur brothers because of this how does it makes no sense?

@Respbury

2 жыл бұрын

@@CanBonamaVEVO Brothers killing each other for the crown ? yes that make sense but the Father killing his sons for making one actual heir? that doesnt make sense :)

@CanBonamaVEVO

2 жыл бұрын

@@Respbury suleiman the magnificent and some others did that too. Its kingdoms were talking about this is one of the costs being a royalty

@Respbury

2 жыл бұрын

@@CanBonamaVEVO You dont under fucking standd

fun fact: Slovenian culture gets house seniority in tribal tech, while Occitan and basque get high partition.

@denniswilkerson5536

3 жыл бұрын

There is Slovenian culture in this game?

@puruttyaaa

3 жыл бұрын

not slovien(former czech)?

@denniswilkerson5536

3 жыл бұрын

Jakab Gábor Róbert Right, I was gonna say, I knew they had Carantanian (Slovenian) culture added later on in CK2 but it not sure if they will add if they bring back 769 date.

@alexwillis2381

3 жыл бұрын

Czech culture. ie the Duchy of Bohemia.

@loungekiller

3 жыл бұрын

There is Slovien culture. Confirmed as I am currently playing the game.

Step 1: Own all counties in your 2 main duchys. Step 2: Attach a feudal elective law to both. (Because you own all the counties in both duchys you are the only eligible voter.) Step 3: Vote for your player heir Step 4: Profit!

@basic_avarage_person

Жыл бұрын

Or listen to me Step 1: married someone and have 1 kid Step 2: divorce Step 3: married again to someone useful Step 4: have the kid in their family

@extint3407

Жыл бұрын

@@basic_avarage_person but they are still eligible it just risks ending up in a different dynasty

@Chadius_Thundercock

Жыл бұрын

Why does like 5000 of my troops just disappear when I die? Even when I stabilize the empire and I’m friends with everyone again, I’m still like 3000 troops from where I was

@extint3407

Жыл бұрын

@@Chadius_Thundercock i think it's to do with vassal? When you get new titles , you also get the vassals with it. So when your parent or title holder dies. The titles are divided so maybe that's where you are losing them.

@ZumbaThirst

Жыл бұрын

@@Chadius_Thundercock Your player character's statistic and perks have a lot to do with all kinds of different things you are able to do and what you have. This includes but is not limited to your levy size. If your previous character had, let's say 20 points in martial and your current only has 12, your levy size will be drastically smaller. This can be compounded if your previous character also had perks that increase levy size, as it is unlikely your much younger current character has those perks. Essentially, a character who is at the end of their lifespan will have more points and perks tied to their lifestyle focus, and therefore be more powerful than young characters.

There's also one last way, which is accessible if you have the sadistic trait: assassination. Since sadistic characters can create plots against even their own children, you can kill them off if you have the intrigue or connections, all the while keeping the kinslayer trait off your character if successful. However, even if you aren't discovered, you do gain stress, and of course, this could hurt your dynasty size, meaning less renown for the dynasty. If you're feeling risky, you could also make them knights and send them into battle, hoping they perhaps die outright, or are maimed which will likely lead to death.

@Morteniusz23

3 жыл бұрын

The best way to kill heirs in battle is just creating only army of unwanted heirs and send them for raiding to any foreign country with any army. Killed heir without nessesity of having sadistic trait.

@TheDanielsSk

3 жыл бұрын

The army way was my way to go. I've always created a new army, sent only 1 knight that I wished to die (and maybe also forced one of my vassels that I dont like to lead the army), and sent the two dudes to die, always worked, one time my knight even killed 20 dudes on his own before getting his arm cut off

@whackedoutpoobrain

3 жыл бұрын

I'm super curious about how they will fix that exploit. It's extra queso supreme cheesy.

@brosmeister09

3 жыл бұрын

@@whackedoutpoobrain I assume that it would be done like eu4 where a army just nopes out if the enemy is too large in comparison (all dough that should factor in troop quality to some extent)

@scottbeale3241

3 жыл бұрын

Forcing you heirs into a trial by fire as knights is a win win. Either they die and you're left with less division, or they eventually become giga chads able to bitch slap people around

Another little trick, is being proactive with your grandkids. Confederate Partition doesn't let you give your heir land, but if your heir has an heir, it is fair game to give em all the titles you want. If your own succession is secure, but you notice your heir has way too many children, you can set their eldest up with a solid domain of their own before you die... If a primary heir happens to already own land, Confederate Partition can't take it away from em.

@sdarkpaladin

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, if your primary heir were to somehow die, then his primary heir will become your next character. Or at least that's what I remembered. So you can skip generations to keep your land intact.

@mortache

3 жыл бұрын

Just have one son and assassinate all but one of his sons! Live long and skip generations to rule! Disinheriting grandkids also cost half renown

@Naruku2121

3 жыл бұрын

@@sdarkpaladin Yeah....uh just becareful how soon your heir dies or you may find yourself a 3 yearold king, with a Kingdom of unruly vassals...Like I did. It went how you would think 3 rebellions all in a short period of time. Fortunately I had an over powered alliance who basically laid waste to everyone and some random vikings attacked in the middle of one of those civil wars and captured my rebellious uncle for a second(Literally was like a second they released him). Now I have 25 Prisoners all from various wars and 90% of them are vassals. So uh...that's nice.

@molybdaen11

3 жыл бұрын

@@mortache I did that - killed 6 of my sons and grandsons before i had only the one i wanted left. One month later they assasinated him and i was left with a baby, unable to hold irland together. Took me 2 generations to get the title back from my relatives. So if you go for that - always keep one son in reserve!

@mortache

3 жыл бұрын

@@molybdaen11 Nah i have a bunch of disinherited geniuses. You can restore their inheritance at your leisure. One of my great-granddaughters just became robust-intelligent-beautiful and my robust-genius heir is sooo gonna bang her lol

I had to watch this at 0.75 playback speed so that i could follow your ideas.. but that helped a lot.. nice vid!

@kekeslider

3 жыл бұрын

youtube please give us 0.8 and 0.85 speed

@locococo8961

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, I watch all vids on 2x speed, I guess I am just a maniac.

I wish I had knew about confederate partition a day ago. I conquered Norway, northern Germany, Aquataine, Italy, Afrika Egypt and some more with the King of Denmark. Then founded the High Kingdom (Empire) of Norway and enacted the Scandinavian succession law for this title. On my death my elected heir inherited this title, but another one of my family created the empire of Italia and put half of my empire into it. Turned out an easy subjugation war solved my problem, but I was really confused, why I lost half my empire.

It is my very first play through of CK 3. I will explain why this game is special if you’re interested. I played the tutorial and became interested in the story of Petty King Brian. I carried onward to his passing and took over his sons Brian II. In my early 20s my fathers death sparked me to realize that my dynasty would be in grave danger if I did not marry soon. I must create an heir. My wife was one of the most qualified women in the known world at the time. I was lucky to betroth her. She had exceptionally high lifestyle skills and at least 10 solid traits. I’ve yet to see anything like her since. I knew I had found the one. Within the first year or two of our marriage my lovely became pregnant with our first child. Soon to be my 1st son and rightful heir. I relished the opportunity to have a Prince and set my ideas towards growing the lands I would one day hand down to him. Though as life often does, it threw me a curve. Late into my wife’s pregnancy, it was discovered that she was having an affair with that bastard of a Franconian duke robert! Suddenly I came to realize the child … may not be mine. I struggled deeply with what to do. The laws didn’t allow me to punish the duke, but only my wife. I couldn’t bear the thought of imprisoning her, for if my heir truly lives inside her, I wouldn’t have them brought into the world in a jail cell. I wanted to murder her, but again what of my child? I decided to wait. I needed time to think and clear my mind. I would allow her to go unpunished and soon she gave birth to a baby boy. Who unlike his mother and her lovers brunette, had a head of blonde hair like mine. Surely this was my son… but the irking feeling nagged at me still. What if I’m wrong? I decided to let the baby grow up and see it through. Surely as he aged into a boy I would see in his face if he was truly my heir. So I forced myself to find forgiveness in my wife, yet not forget. Several years past and my boy grew to look more and more like me. I loved my son dearly.. yet I still could not shake the feeling. It haunted me always… it was during these early years of the princes life that began looking into the faith to try and calm my mind, and to change my ways. Thus I recognized my duchy struggling to maintain piety. Checking the religion tab I found that the catholic irish traditions expected me to have several wives. It said “since marriage is a holy sanctity, several marriages must therefore be even more holy!” So I sought out others. Enter probably the most memorable character I have ever experienced in a video game to my life, the lovely and vivacious Sadb. While the other wives weren’t memorable there was special in Sadb. While not rivaling my first wife she certainly had skills to hold her own, and more importantly traits to create a kinder hearted and more chivalrous line in my family. While I fought in petty wars with my neighbors, I regretted the brutal ways of my fathers ruling and the traits I had inherited from it. I knew that to maintain peace in my lands and the lands to come, a gentler approach would be a welcome change. And Sadb was going to help me do that. More years past and though my childbearing had been so limited my son now 5-6 was growing strong… although much more like his mother than me. I worried he may be treacherous but fought to combat that by making myself his personal guardian. I had finally found peace with the idea of my main wife’s affair and moved on from it. I defended my petty kingdom through a couple of rebellions from ungrateful vassals and focused on raising my son. I was looking to the future. But just as I had all but forgotten about the queens affair… my spymaster approaches me… that bastard of a duke Robert, and my queen were caught red handed in my bed chambers. She had done it again.. and I was enraged. I would not make the same mistake twice. By ancient Gaelic law, I challenged her to hand to hand combat.. and I swiftly ended her life myself in front of the entire kingdom. In these moments I was filled with darkness. I would begin a failed scheme to murder Robert as well. The people saw me as evil, but I knew it to be just. I would no longer allow my dynasty to be riddled with wickedness. I would erase it piece by piece with my axe. The rage brought on by my queens unfaithfulness drove me near madness. My goal in life was now clear. I would reunite Ireland under 1 banner, my banner, and change the future of our kingdom or die trying. But as God would see my plight, he saw it fit to send me a blessing. For as my mission began, my new Queen Sadb would offer me a son as well. A 2nd heir. Sadb and I would fall in love and eventually become soulmates. My boys being only 6 years apart would grow up and become crucial members of my council. The wars would wage on into their early adulthoods. I played it safe, I moved slowly and meticulously. Playing on diplomacy and building my armies. I replaced abhorrent vassals with some more trustworthy. I finally began to regain control over my small territory and Sadb would offer me several daughters to build alliances. I did not know if I would ever be powerful enough to fulfill my goals but my sons would. While my 1st son born of a treacherous wife would become much like his mother, even plotting to kill his brother and being a deceitful villain, his half brother my 2nd son would be like Sadb. He carried much more chivalrous and martial traits, even to the point I was forced to make him my Martial and commander. He was the greatest warrior in my kingdom. And yet life again would test me… for just as our small kingdom began to flourish and the time for conquest drew near… Queen Sadb died at age 40 during childbirth leaving behind our final daughter, I would justly name Gift of Sadb. I would marry off all of my daughters for alliances or to gain powerful knights in my court. But not Gift of Sadb. She was my light, and I would not share her until the perfect partner stepped forth, if ever at all. This was the first time I can ever remember that a game actually made me sad. I was heartbroken in real life. I became enraged… the time was now. I immediately set out on a vicious conquest, leaving a brutal bloodbath in my wake. For 20 years I would wage war on every ruler in Ireland not under my banner, and force them to join me by either will or death. Until I conquered Ireland and created the kingdom it always should have been in my family’s name. And as the war wrapped up and I was crowned high King I thought my troubles were over. But wickedness had returned to my court in a way I had never expected. Within the last several years of the war, I lost several courtiers, a vassal or two, and even my own newborn son to the hands of a nasty serial killer. They would leave their bodies splayed out on the ground, bleeding them out with a large knife. I schemed for years to find the killer but all of my attempts would fail. I knew my 1st son was wicked as his mother was, I knew he was a broken soul… but this? Surely he couldn’t. But I remember… I remember 20 years earlier uncovering his attempt to kill his own brother. I knew what had to be done. I had held on to this anxiousness for almost 40 years. It was time to remove him from the line… his brother, not him would be king. So I disinherited him of all his rights. And told him he would fight as one of my knights until the end of his days, unless I uncover that he is in fact the killer who has been plaguing my court for years… the very next day he was found, murdered by the killer. The 2nd of my sons to be stabbed to death in less than a year. Only this time the killer was suspected, and brought forth to my attention. Finally I had a name… so I approached the killer directly and she smiled evil into my soul… at last I knew who could commit such vile acts against my own family… my sacred daughter, the Princess Gift of Sadb. This was one of the few times I can ever remember in life a game left me absolutely speechless. I teared up. And in that exact moment I knew.. exactly what Crusader Kings was all about, and why this game is special.

@prodigyPT

Жыл бұрын

holy shit dude

@Kodlaken

Жыл бұрын

@@prodigyPT this should be added into the dictionary as an example of a "text wall"

@j.r.765

Жыл бұрын

How many characters is this? Probably the single longest YT comment I've seen. It should be framed in a museum.

@lucask841

9 ай бұрын

Bro played so much crusader kings he decided to draft up a new Magna Carta

@xtushar100x

3 ай бұрын

Feeling bad for your first kid.

Somehow in my fumbling around, I managed to carry out most of the tips mentioned in the video before watching it and thought I was doing it wrong haha.

@andrewshandle

3 жыл бұрын

I did as well, I feel much smarter than I should...well, until one of my heirs actually died before I did and my grandson became a bit of a power hungry jerk, but such is life. :)

@BadDayLp

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewshandle Ah yes, dying heirs are fun :D

Just FYI: Anglo-Saxons get a special succession type early game if they manage to get a hold of a kingdom title, which is a lot more manageable: Anglo-Saxon elective. It works pretty much like the Holy Roman Empire after that fact, but with a strong preference for dynasty members. Just thought i'd mention to those who want to play Ango-Saxon England. Elective sounds scary but it's extremely easy to keep your primary heir as the top candidate unless everyone just plain hates you. Good bye to splinterin'.

@marine3250l

3 жыл бұрын

Same w Scandinavian elective

@jimbo9305

3 жыл бұрын

On top of that, when you create or usurp a new kingdom you can change it to elective even if it isn't the same culture. I created Italy as Swedish Scandinavia and I still put Scandinavian elective for the Italian kingdom. I did that for every kingdom I made and always had my primary heir as the candidate. Even though I only had one county, I would always be the emperor and the king of any kingdoms I wanted. So it didn't matter to only have one county as I would have numerous kingdoms.

@ystudbeast3

3 жыл бұрын

So under that elective type your domain won’t be split correct?

@philm94

3 жыл бұрын

@@ystudbeast3 It might, but it's easier to manage. If you give each title the Saxon Elective law, they don't count at all in the even-splits and have their own succession (like the male pref law 'exploit') - and your primary heir can and likely will win every election. You may still lose county holdings doing this, but everything kingdom-level+ will stay with one heir.

I’m glad you made this. I’ve seen too many people in the community acting like the only options they have with confederate partition is to go on a filicide rampage. Yea, confederate partition is tough, but that’s kinda the point. Inheritance was incredibly disastrous for transitions during this time.

I have played this for almost 20 hours total now . i still have no clue what i am doing but i am willing to learn as it fun as hell . Nice vid

Before this video I sucked at CK3. Now! I’m still terrible but I know more. Thanks for taking the time to post.

Or even cheesier. You have an elective succession law for your main title and assure you have enough power/hooks to make sure your chosen heir gets the number 1 spot. Then you change your heir to someone else shortly before you die (the lifestyle trait that tells you that you are close to death is useful here, or having changed your religion so that you can commit suicide at will after the age of 60 it also reduces short rule penalty I forgot the name.) Now that the guy you want to inherit your main title isn't your main heir you can just give him all your other titles and switch back to voting for him making him your main heir, which lets him inherit all your shit and your main title effectively. (He also votes for himself now usually since he should be a powerfull vassal now making this a little easier.)

@ChrisSymble

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and you can do the same thing with Crown Authority Level 4

"Loving partitions" as a Pole, that part unnerves me 😂😅

@puruttyaaa

3 жыл бұрын

same as your hungarian former neighbour :D

@Rex1987

3 жыл бұрын

did you know that Polonium is named after Poland? it has no stable isotopes - just like Poland didn't exactly have stable borders in the last century ;)

@dariuss3558

3 жыл бұрын

*Poland-Lithuania left the chat*

Thank you for pointing out the difference between what your character wants from what you as a player may desire. Plus, trying to cheese partition succession is an easy way to get bored with CK3 as you only ever get more powerful. Also, doesn't marrying your extra sons matrilineally remove them from the pot? Still cheesy from a RP-perspective, though.

@OneProudBavarian

3 жыл бұрын

We as players have a very hostile relation with our secondary heirs, but our characters would probably try to create a future that enables a good life for all of them!

@richardmatthias6098

3 жыл бұрын

@Evalation Most of the time your more irrelevant sons would generally be your knights, which locks them out of leaving. I believe that they do leave if they have absolutely nothing to do at your court.

@kleinerprinz99

3 жыл бұрын

Actually real life royal families had pretty hostile relationships to each other, look at how the Frankish Empire broke apart, the three sons made their father give up rule and then after he finally resigned they warred against each other, also Charlemagne's mother poisoned his brother and they send a Lombard Princess to hell.. First World War was a family feud. All of the European Rulers were all relatives.. there is a family picture from 1900.

@hiimme12345

3 жыл бұрын

@@OneProudBavarian This is why I like non-confederate partition in many cases; all the sons get land and a chance to succeed but the empire as a whole stays intact

@DoubleBizzy

3 жыл бұрын

@Evalation I had this happen. I had like 8 sons and only 3-4 stood to inherit titles, so I got the popup that one was going to leave Court. Of course, he was my best Champion and highest prowess, so no, you may not leave! Here, get married and I'll start another county conquest for your honeymoon! And take your older brother with you to "see the cliffs".

my head hurts

This is the type of specialist guides we need. Wouldn't consider the game complete without tutorials like this or a complete wiki. Paradox could learn from you.

Thanks for this, very informative! As someone neglecting studying for the Bar Exam by playing this game, I especially liked your accurate little quip about modern law recognizing advancements on inheritance!

This is absurdly useful for early starts. Huge thanks for demystifying how confederate partition works. I've just been gritting my teeth and starting over every generation.

@jasonreed7522

2 жыл бұрын

1 method is measured expansion, basically only ever have 1 top level domain able to be created at any given time, and wait until after you survive a succession to try and blitz to an empire. The various cultural elective laws help but having too many elections to manage at once gets tedious. On the other side you can strategically assassinated the heads if other nations to trigger an explosion making it much easier to conquer their lands. (Doesn't work if an empire only holds 1 empire level title, which is basically all AI empires, but its a great way to make West Francia spit out Germany, Brittany, Aquitaine, and Italia)

The tip about PRE gifting titles to secondary heirs counting towards succession math/logic, was VERY helpful sir. :). Thanks.

Ty so much for video, just had my first successful transition! from tribal county chief into king with 5 duchies... domain wasn't upgraded much since most money went to buying titles and I did my best for the character to pass on as soon as my heir was 15yrs old (got him at 17, so it worked out great)... Thanks to your explanation I kept track of every change in succession tab, until I realized I just needed 1 extra county to balance everything, so I just conquered some remote county that had 100soldiers and my whole country remained my color and most importantly whole domain landed on heir!

Good job I appreciate your clear communication about the meaning of the information

oh man you just saved me soo much prestige with that male preference cheese

Another way is if your spouse gives birth to a son you don't want to inherit titles, set their education focus to scholarship when they are a baby and give them a scholarly education. Then when they come of age, ask them to "Take the Vows" and join the church, knocking them out of the inheritance race and giving you a small boost in your faith.

Please do more tutorials! You present the information really well!

The thing about gifting before you die in modern inheritance, is less about dividing equally, and more about taxing the recipient!

Thank you, OPB, for actually teaching people to understand the game and having fun while playing, not fighting game mechanics.

I solved this with Feudal Elective. I get to choose which of my sons is going to be the heir (I always apply it to all kingdom / empire titles). The rest of the inheritance drama I solve by either conquering new land or by forging claims on my vassals and then giving the newly acquired titles to my sons. Up to 3 sons is doable, more than that and you're gonna have to start "trimming" a little bit.

Great info as always @oneproudbavarian !! I still haven’t found any videos or posts even that explain when and why you want to spend gold to create kingdoms and dutchies.

I was waiting for this come out!

Commented on this previously, but commenting again on account of how useful this is.

Great guide. Thank you. Also helps that my game very closely matched the example Jorvik case!

Ck3 made me understand the ottomans succession madness

@haruspexaugur2439

3 жыл бұрын

That's why we legalized fratricide. For the benefit of people and to avoid this bullshit.

@BadDayLp

3 жыл бұрын

@@haruspexaugur2439 Bruh, dont you think you can avoid this shit without making murdering your brother legal? Just... a thought... :D

i've just been ruling with an iron fist for a while having like -90 tyranny opinion with 100 dread when i start a new character hasn't failed yet

You've been a godsend with these videos. A one on how to get claims would be cool

It’s a bit annoying that your realm gets carved up when your character dies. My current character has about 8 children so I’m going to lose loads of it when he dies. It will be easier once I make it to the medieval period so I can change the partition laws.

@cm16533

3 жыл бұрын

I was enjoying the game a lot until I realized this. This adds a big headache

@johnlynn9388

3 жыл бұрын

@@cm16533 I know my character died and I went from owning nearly all of Britain to owning one or two small provinces. Luckily my current character only has one heir so as long as they survive I won't lose any territory this time.

@jasonreed7522

2 жыл бұрын

Once you get normal partition atleast you can delete all top level titles that aren't your primary and not worry about shattering as badly. But until then you can strategically not be eligible to form titles, and theoretically you could dejure drift them into your main title but that takes litterally forever even with a really good chancellor speeding it up.

Great insight into succession,this makes the game much more enjoyable as tribal.

Very helpful. Took me about 15 starts before I I realized the basics here.

Nice video, i did not know about the cheese stuff. Something I found to also keep land together is to use elective on your top tier. En then just gift all land you want to keep + nominate your grandson. Because you can pretty much gift him everthing apart from your top title and capital county.

Also keep in mind that the more independent realms that you create upon confederate partition succession, the more renown your dynasty gets, as opposed to not generating any from dynasty members landed under you.

This was super helpful, thanks mate!

great explanation, thank you! i like how complex this game is...

The house head 'claim title' interaction is my personal favorite way to do things.

Great video! Thanks for the help

Solid explanation, I'd personally recommend taking the celibacy perk in the learning tree (if you're not a reveller) to help control heirs.

@alexmcneel8931

4 ай бұрын

My ruler is 'celibate' and still has like 20 kids

Thanks a bunch, vielen dank!

Finally! Thank you!

Amazing explanation, thank you very much

Beautifully explained, thank you :)

Title: The Ultimate CK3 Guide To Succession Video content: Only talks about Confederate Partition

@verkpunk

3 жыл бұрын

Well confederation is the absolute worst. The rest can be managed pretty easily

@Savaris96

3 жыл бұрын

Caue you dont need to explain how primogeniture or even tanistry works, the game does that for you easily enough

@jjaapp18

3 жыл бұрын

@@verkpunk ​ @Savaris96 Yea, but you guys are missing the point. Your opinions do not matter in regards to the point I made.

This is just a fantastic video. I gave my heirs crappy little duchies and now I get to continue my reign as a powerful king (average renown -1000).

@Yourebeautyfull

3 жыл бұрын

Yes once you get the hang of it how inheritance rule works, the game becomes much less of a hassle :P But many people just give up on the dutchy inheritance system because it gives them a headache and turn to desperate measures instead :D

When your realm splits up you understand quick 😀 I remember being frustrated at first. Watching to see if there is any other tips I don't know.

Super helpful, thanks!

The Ultimate CK3 Guide To Succession = PLAY BYZANTINE EMPIRE WITH PRIMOGENITURE LAW EARLY, ALL HAIL ROMA!

You can just force your kids that aren't primary heirs to be knights and then send them into battle. And by sending them to battle I mean only them, just create new army out of your children and send them against a doomstack. Perfect way to kill them without the game realizing.

beautiful video, nice work !

I'm going to start only having 1 kid and then get rid of my wife and stop making the babies. Maybe I'll have 1 extra kid as a backup. :P Had a close call on my latest Germania empire playthrough. I had taken Chasity vow because the decision tab recommended it and my emperor was pushing 70 and I was wondering why he hadn't had but 1 kid. Forgot to turn it off. Turned it off and found a new hot young fertile wife and pumped out an heir just in time for him to take over at age 6.

Third choice: don't have more than one heir at any time. Sire a bunch of bastards, legitimze the most promising ones, keep going down the list if they die.

@killinspecialist1965

3 жыл бұрын

thats kind of what i do sire only bastards and legitimize the best, move down the list if he dies ofc most of the time i just mod in primogeniture but when i dont thats what i do

@molybdaen11

3 жыл бұрын

That would be the king route, but doesnt that mean you have to pick a infertile wife?

@killinspecialist1965

3 жыл бұрын

@@molybdaen11 just dont take a wife

@rodrikforrester6989

3 жыл бұрын

@@molybdaen11 That, or don't marry at all.

@TheAsj97

3 жыл бұрын

@@rodrikforrester6989 But then you lose out on the spouse skill bonuses

Great video. Would have liked to see a section on strategies to designate your heir. For example, if you have 3 sons but you want to play as your youngest son, and not your oldest son (who is the player heir), how would you set this up? And then further, how would you distribute your titles before you die to ensure your heir will have sufficient power over his brothers. I think you touched on the last part throughout the video but it's still something I struggle with.

Quite useful, OPB, thanks!

Honestly, the best idea might just be to make all the heirs you don’t really want become knights and yeet then at whatever enemy you want until they die. If they get captured you can seize down their capitol or something to force the war score towards your end until you get the outcome you want. It’s hella cheesy, but it’s better than fracturing your kingdom. Also, I feel like it’s best to try and have heirs focus more on stewardship than anything else so that your domain limit is as large as possible for more direct control of your land.

Love this game, can't wait for DLC

@TheNignag89

3 жыл бұрын

Careful what you wish for *cries in CK2*

I’ve restarted this game more than 10 times already because I keep getting into many wars at once. But I’m finally getting it.

Needs to be available for some religions, or can be unlocked earlier. This is just crazy... A son would inherent everything in the classical era.

@laatmemetrustkutgoogle8896

3 жыл бұрын

??? 1.This isn't set in the classical era 2.even then the classical era consisted of poli 3. Alexander's empire was partitioned

@Ace-2000

3 жыл бұрын

@@laatmemetrustkutgoogle8896- Yes, No, Yes.

I inherited more than one county once. I was quite surprised!

My strategy is to find a single county that is worth building up and make it your capital. It will always go to your primary heir and will eventually make them more powerful than all of their vassals combined if you build the right infrastructure. If all you own is a single county within your kingdom, there is no chance of internal splintering.

Something that isnt mention in the game tooltips in addition to all the other stuff, is that partition will ignore De jure if you dont have enough duchies, or land to form duchies, and will hand out counties in your primary title before land outside of it. For example; Suppose your the duke of jorvik in the video, exact same situation, but instead you conquered two additional provinces in mercia, but not enough for another duchy to be formed. On your rulers death, instead of your hier getting the capital and perhaps east riding, you'll get the capital and one of the counties within the duchy of mercia, and your third son will take your two counties you own within your primary title and the other county in mercia.

Thanks OPB, this was really helpful! By the way, i'll be moving from Brandenburg to Bavaria soon, so prepare for invasion.

@OneProudBavarian

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to your new home!

great concise content!

Pavelkind is worst inheritance. Paradox hold my beer.

I'm trying to unite africa but I have to spend half my reign reconquering the 5 empires my siblings always get.

@Yourebeautyfull

3 жыл бұрын

Primogeniture will fix that for you once it becomes available... Until then, just make sure their inherited empires are weak enough for you to conquer them back and set up some strong alliances ;)

@kingkai2800

3 жыл бұрын

Add fedual laws so u can have an election

Great video, very helpful. Also, I'd add that faiths that have monasticism (such as default Catholicism) permit nobles to take the vows and become monks, which also revokes their claims to titles. You can coerce heirs to become monks (helpful with a hook).

I am more concerned over my ruler even having a child.

thank you for the Guide ^.^

Yep, I can see him be very very happy with confederate partition

I still remember my first campaign where I started in Yemen and I didn't bother with the tutorial and I built a nice little kingdom for myself only to have my character get assassinated by my children and immediately after my heir is forced into a civil war with his brother and lost and is now a just a vassal ngl I cried a little, but oh boy did I enjoy it when I got my revenge

@dinozauriukas100

3 жыл бұрын

Something similar happened to me when I was playing Lithuania, 2 factions decided to invade, a faction with my vassals decided to revolt, and some family fuckery was going on at the same time

Idk, when I did my Persia play through, I essentially would conquer a duchy, and give all the titles to any child that wasn’t my primary heir. And that worked until I got all the way to having more than 1 empire. This method also is a great way to ensure your dynasty grows to its fullest potential.

brilliant. ty

Wow thank you sooooo much

Danke! Exakt was ich gesucht habe. Ein Hoch auf Bayern.

Some Faiths can have their children take vows (either as a monk or as a member of a Holy Order, if one exists). Catholics at least can do this. Seems like a historically accurate thing to do, as well, IMO! :)

also if you hand out titles before hand if your the house head you can then use your minor hooks to change there feudal contract in your favor, if they get land when it all splits you don't have your hooks anymore

I also found a way which is a bit cheesy, but if you give your lands to your primary heir the other son will only get your capital(because you cannot give it away) and since you can move i just usually moved it to some random newly conqured province. This will also allow you to only split your realm between 2 sons and i would only recomend this when your current character is near death.

i like to imprison my unwanted sons and make them take the vows

*THANK YOU*

I roleplay in CK3. As the first (1066) king of Ireland I spent the dying days of my rule disinheriting 4 of my 6 sons and forcing the 5th to become a monk so my primary heir would inherit all my domains. This is my first playthrough so I guess time will tell if that was a good decision or not, but like I said, I roleplay so I don't mind either way. Left a like :)

@kaidenhall2718

11 ай бұрын

Well was it

I know this is an old video but thank you it was well explained and clear. And yes disinherit worked and also I had him in the dungeon and it only cost me like 300 prestige for some reason. Maybe you pay less since he was a criminal. He was a nasty brother to omg.

I don't know if this has been said yet. But, If you give your secondary heirs their inheritance early with High Partition, the game currently switches that secondary heir's succession rules to Confederate Partition, making their inheritance equal your primary heir's. I don't know if this is intended by the Devs, but I figured I'd share that. Had a generation's succession situation messed up in my Castilian Campaign because of this.

“Here comes the truly tricky part” me stoned and lost

THANK YOU! I do have one question, though: is the heir charged for the lower titles that are created upon succession or do they appear magically?

Ugh, it's Gavelkind all over again. Now I gotta remember what I forgot from CK2.

Hat der Bruder einfach noch bisschen Erbrecht eingebaut, nice move my dude