It took me three years to get over losing my son, 2 years to get over losing my best friend. 5 years losing my husband and I'm two years into the loss of my mother still grieving pretty heavily monthly. It is beginning to get better

It feels like it never ends because it never ends.

@JoelManrique

4 жыл бұрын

So Trueee

@EdwardMongillo

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@JoelManrique

4 жыл бұрын

@@EdwardMongillo I shared my experiences here kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHyGk9yfd9udaJs.html

@matthewmetz3655

2 жыл бұрын

My working definition of love is “a deep or profound longing affection or appreciation toward something or someone without which your life is incomplete.” When you lose something or someone you love, you lose a part of yourself. You can heal, you can grieve, you can experience something akin to recovery, but you’re never whole again. So no. It never ends.

@ThePrimordialChronicles

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately true.

there's nothing worse than grieving someone and thinking that you aren't really grieving them because you haven't experienced all the stages. Thank you for this video, I hope more people see it

"and that soggy casserole that your neighbor made for you." Perfect timing

@arrgghh1555

6 жыл бұрын

Huh? How can a casserole not be soggy?

@lazerwing3022

6 жыл бұрын

Abbie Crawford aren't casseroles normally liquid? Why describe it as soggy It's like saying keep looking for cold ice and dead corpses

@deborahhanna6640

6 жыл бұрын

Casseroles are generally baked; leaving them to set to firmness on the surface. There may be sauce or broth underneath along with noodles or vegetables. When they sit too long they become watery or the noodles become spongy & disintegrate. Casseroles are generally depressing because they are so associated to funeral food.

@MelissaSchwartz143

4 жыл бұрын

haha I love the "perfect timing" bc it WAS perfect timing!! well played

@justinrodriguez4291

3 жыл бұрын

wasn't that funny

watching Sci Show is a way i keep a lasting relationship with someone I lost. I always feel closer to him whenever I watch this channel.

No one ever thinks about how a serious and bad break up (or divorce) is grief too. You are grieving the loss of the future you thought you had, you're grieving the loss of the person you are no longer with, grieving the loss of the most important relationship in your life and if that relationship had been the most important relationship for years it will be even worse for you. That relationship died and that's a very painful thing to deal with. To our society it doesn't seem like as big a deal as someone dying but in a lot of cases it is just as painful as someone dying, if not more, because the person who died in most cases didn't choose to leave you. All break ups hurt to some extent, some more than others, and that hurt you're feeling is grief.

0:40: "It's a totally normal process... and it's different fir everyone." THANK you! There is no 'one way to grieve'! Take your own time, and get help (if you need it).💓

1 Cut. 2 Marinate. 3 Season. 4 Cook. 5 Dehydrate. The five stages of beef jerky.

@alexcaffrey983

6 жыл бұрын

Master Therion Mmmm that’s one way to deal with grief, lots and lots of jerky!

@celinak5062

6 жыл бұрын

Master Therion +

My dad passed away 5 years ago last month and the only family I have a live right now is my mother. When my mother passes away I will have zero family! I am middle-aged but I still find this a scary proposition, to be completely alone on this planet.

@deadpanacea

3 жыл бұрын

*Stay strong, girl.*

I only know the five stages of getting arrested

@Ash-wu2yz

6 жыл бұрын

What are they?

@jeffbyrd6003

6 жыл бұрын

Awww hustle hank should be a hustler, notta failed criminal :'(

@sebastianelytron8450

6 жыл бұрын

This is too funny. All that's missing is a Rustle Hank and a Bustle Hank (am I missing any letters?)

@harleyfroment1989

6 жыл бұрын

Muscle Hank.

@chainsawhank9984

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Hank, I'm Hank, how are ya bro?

The hardest grieving process I had was for one of my rabbits. She was always there when I was sad, laying next to me and letting me pet her, and I had her when I was 15-24 years old, which was a very hard time of my life. She was so kind, and when we played (she loved to play 'noseball', like soccer but with her nose) she was so mischievous and funny. So when she was gone everything felt very different. It took long time to deal with the grief.

I have a friend that definitely has Persistent Complex Bereavement Dissorder. After 5 years she still regularly breaks down when thinking of her mother's death and has regular dreams about it. To top it off, her father died recently. I'm glad that even though my own loss of my brother was hard, it gives me a good knowledge to talk to other people who have lost love one's. I love hearing stories about her mom and dad, because I know how lonely it can be when people don't want to ask or listen because they're scared you'll just cry immediately or act awkward when you mention them. But, even after 16 years I still have bad days where I just cry, when missing my brother and the potential of who he could have been just rushes over me. Grief is weird

My brother passed few months ago and I will suggest that the stages is somewhat correct, at least for me. But I think it would be hard to study through interviews, because I would also had said that I had accepted the passing just after the funeral, but I really don't know what that meant. When he passed everything felt unreal and i floated between in a state of reality and a dream, conflicting thoughts of future and the present. Like a foot in the common sense of thoughts, but also a deep suppressing feeling of it. Just a week ago I felt total acceptance, but the recent days I felt more present to the reality of him being gone and cried like never before. It's really complicated as you say, but also I kind of can relate to the 5 stages.

@deborahhanna6640

6 жыл бұрын

Condolences.

@macktheripper7454

6 жыл бұрын

Anton Andersson I lost my dad recently, check out ajahn Brahm grief talks here on KZread

@LittleLadyhawke2

6 жыл бұрын

Sincerest sympathy. I just lost my brother last month as well.

@kAntonta

6 жыл бұрын

LittleLadyhawke2 I'm sorry for your loss, maybe they are together somewhere we cannot phantom. Time will tell. It will get better. And thank you kind strangers.

@synolve

5 жыл бұрын

Anton Andersson Sorry for your loss💗

"Freud had a lot of ideas, and they weren't always great" - Quoted for Truth!

Thank you for clearing up the common misconception. I got tired of "What stage are you in?" when my father died. As a wonderful woman (one of my best friend's mother) who said this when she lost her second husband to cancer, "You grieve how you grieve. Don't let anyone tell you how to grieve. But please be as healthy as you can while you do it." Much love for everyone who's been through it. [And the answer to the question, "Is there anything... ANYTHING I can do?" is quite simple. "I want my father back you son of a (beep)!"]

@deborahhanna6640

6 жыл бұрын

Thessalin Imigo toils in grief for 20 years. Feels.

@deborahhanna6640

6 жыл бұрын

*Inigo

It makes a LOT more sense that the 5 stages were initially applied to the dying person. I am curious, though - is there much research on grief when it comes to losing a pet? I'd be interested in learning more about that.

I only know the 5 stages of SWOLE!

@vanessadacringe3301

6 жыл бұрын

wut🤔

@illustriouschin

6 жыл бұрын

try again!

@weezerboy6910

6 жыл бұрын

Is that,Hank? Hank is on steroids!

@iancarreras9893

6 жыл бұрын

I thought you got your muscle naturally you traitor

@c.jhamblin5759

6 жыл бұрын

Im just waiting for hank and john to adress you in a video

Psychologist can only suggest that you can go through however many stages of grief, but only that person who has lost a loved one feels the heartbreak and can most likely never get to stage 2. No acceptance no matter what anyone tells you is ever accepted 😥

Her face when talking about Freud - the disdain basically leaps off the screen!

What a perfectly timely topic. We just had the funeral for my Dad and my reaction has not looked like the Kubler-Ross model. It's been a lot more like the Task Based Model you described. I kind of felt like something may be off with me, but it's good to understand that there is not as much empirically based. I'm also a very resilient person in general, so this helped me gain some much appreciated perspective. Thanks. :)

@alexcaffrey983

6 жыл бұрын

Sean Sullivan I’m sorry about you dad, and I hope your doing well. Keeping productive is definitely useful in grieving and work can keep you grounded so you don’t drown in your sorrows. Work, especially cathartic types of work can be a very healthy outlet for loss. You sound like you have a good handle on things and I’m sure you’re indispensable to your family right now. Well wishes.

I've found that grief works differently for me. I sort of just get angry until apathy takes over and I find something else to think about.

Oliva and Hank are my favourite presentors of sci show, keep up the great work

It's really a shame that disenfranchised grief isn't that accepted. I remember when my ex's parents got divorced. It really affected me but I couldn't have the chance to properly grieve over that loss because "they weren't my parents and I don't know what it's like so what right do I have to be sad?" I hope this does one day become more accepted in society. We all deserve the chance to grieve and heal.

when i lost my best friend i feel like i got a bit angry at first, but then i was just really depressed. i still am, it's been a little more than a year, i haven't gotten to the acceptance stage yet i think.

I deal with premature grief... Where i feel grief for things that just where born because just knowing mortality is a thing pushes me to think about what it will be like when everything I care about is gone..

I've lost my mother, two years ago in summer...some people don't understand that sometimes I'm sad. I move forward but sometimes the pain is terrible.

In the past four days since my loss, I've jumped around from denial, anger, bargaining, and depression in no particular order. Sometimes I feel a mixture of more than one at the same time. The different stages seem accurate to me, but I think the order is different for everyone and based on the nature of the loss itself.

People are so different, and they react differently depending on the relationship to the person that they lose. I don't see how everyone can ever fit into one model. Really interesting video, Olivia. Thanks for sharing it with us.

I hope those "Ask me about my cigar" hats show up in your merch store soon! Great video!

I grieved 2 years before my mom's death. Her lifestyle of hoarding and being hospitalized for declining health as a result. I felt more at peace when she died. I cried more when she was alive. All the pain. The only hauntings are dream that I have a lot. Otherwise, I moved on well. Maybe a stage or 2. That was all.

I read the comments and not many people commented on the actual video and the nice lady delivering it. I just wanted to say BRAVO! EXCELLENT! Very well done. It was hard for me to keep up only because everything that you said made me think and I had to keep rewinding, but that's on me. I'll just rewatch it. Very good job. Thank you.

Thank you for being such an awesome host, Olivia!

My husband died 4 months ago. I’m in the “anger stage”. I am so pissed. Angry at him for leaving me here, angry at the whole world.

@imainx5883

6 жыл бұрын

Missy Deville I'm so sorry I hope you come to heal

@ChrisJohnson-lh9qb

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry I know how it feels to be lonely without the person you loved, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life goes on because death is inevitable and we'll all have to face it someday, I lost my wife 3yrs ago to a cardiovascular disease, I felt deeply devastated with grief, but that's the past now, time is indeed the best healer. I'd love to talk to you more if you don't mind! it'd be nice if you just say hi, here is my number +17866678266 or rather you can send me your gmail address so I could reach out on you.

I really really REALLY liked this video. It is very helpful to understand the various ideas and theories concerning grief and that there is no one-size-fits-all model. Thank you very much for doing this one. Cheers, Russ

Who would've thought that Freud would've studied something without relating it to sex?

@dshe8637

4 жыл бұрын

Thanatos and Libido were both joined, according to Freud. You don't think he'd have left sex out of death, do you?😒

@KnakuanaRka

3 жыл бұрын

This was a really incredible episode, I love how much detail you guys went into, very well done! Thanks SciShow, for such an informative video! :)

It took me a while ( 7-8 years) to get over the loss of a significant other. I guess I worked thru my greif, but stayed stuck on it too long. I am over it know. Thanks for talking of the inevitable for us all!

A very well done video for such a delicate subject. I really couldn't see Hank doing this video on such a sensitive issue. Good job Olivia. I'm grieving at the moment at the loss of my best friend and this video although not the answer to grief, it certainly helped.

Brace yourself edgy jokes are coming.

@johnbagel2560

6 жыл бұрын

By the way I am a hypocrite

@deborahhanna6640

6 жыл бұрын

Dang.

@thstroyur

6 жыл бұрын

I thought winter was coming

I've never really experienced the whole 5 stage thing for any of the people or pets close to me that passed away. I felt sad, and moved on, but never denied it, was angry about it, or bargained about it.

@baemheadshot86

6 жыл бұрын

hellcat1988 same here, really felt bad about it too. Stupid when i look back at that weird time after she passed. Was feeling like a disconnect between what my brain was expecting and what i actually felt like. The dangers in generalization i guess

@macleandancy8029

6 жыл бұрын

hellcat1988 yes, which is why majority of the video explains it depends on the circumstance and the individual. Discounting the Kübler-Ross models application to grief.

@dlee645

6 жыл бұрын

Me too. I was sad but moved on. I have never experienced the 5 stages. At first, I thought there was something wrong with me, but as I grew older, I came to the realization that the 5 stages were a bunch of nonsense.

@gordonlawrence4749

6 жыл бұрын

It has been argued that this even applies to relationships. I was told I would go through grief when I finally got divorced from my x-wife. In reality I was extaticaly happy.

I'm kind of wondering why this wasn't on scishow psych instead? Not upset or anything, just curious.

@marilynlucero9363

6 жыл бұрын

Probably because they are explaining the truth about how it works in theory instead of how it works in a practical matter. Not sure how to explain it, but I would think the way they would talk about it on SciShow Psych would probably more be like explaining where /how in the brain triggers what when it comes to the 5 stages of grief, sorry for being this vague, my knowledge isn't big enough to explain it better, lol. Hope it made sense.

@RicardoMoralesMassin

6 жыл бұрын

Cross

@RicardoMoralesMassin

6 жыл бұрын

Promotion !

@MercyS26

6 жыл бұрын

There's a Scishow psych?? I didn't even know, going up subscribe now!

@DemonaruMusic

6 жыл бұрын

Well I gues +Mk S. 's response proves +Ricardo Morales 's response. lol

This hit me way too close to home. Having lost 2 grandparents and a friend/coworker over the course of 2 years about 2 years ago, and then afterwards suffering from stress and depression caused by it.

I've accepted death a long time ago. When a loved one dies, I only experience depression at the definite state. How long I'm depressed depends on the bond I had with the person.

DABDA. Denial, Anger, Barga- holr up. Dab? DABDA ON 'EM

This video comes at a time right after a member of my community passed away suddenly. I didn’t know them directly, but I’ve seen the impact it has had on the people around me. The grief and trauma that it has caused is a lot, but we’re working though it together

My uncle died and my aunt had to some extent already accepted it before it happened. They had known it was coming for years and he had lived way longer than expected. Knowing beforehand influenced her grief process a lot, and allowed her to figure out how to readjust her life financially before he became unable to be the breadwinner. That also helped because finances can be a big problem and cause a lot more stress, worsening the process.

It's like y'all made this video for me. Two years ago on the 21st, my grandmother passed away. It was my first time dealing with real loss.

A psychologist I went to a while back explained that five-stage model to me but in different words. And he thought that the reason for my state of mind was due to a break-up even though I've been carrying a lot of baggage for half my life and didn't know it until then.

This is so interesting! Most I've enjoyed from Scishow recently. Go team ft. Olivia!

I'm on the 4th stage right now. But sometimes, I still have the feeling of having 1st. 2nd and 3rd. Idk. But thanks a lot for this video.

Thanks for the slower, more serious tone of this episode. I wasn't a fan of Olivia at first but she's slowly growing on me.

Time really does heal all wounds. Sometimes it just takes a considerable amount of time.

Interesting as currently grieving my dad who passed last summer. Ajahn Brahm has some great talks about grief

*googling "robot chicken giraffe"*

@ssarahyim

6 жыл бұрын

actually where I first learned it....

This came at a perfect time. I was just questioning this when I didn't go through the "bargaining stage" of grief.

The thing is, the 5 stages don't just apply to death. It can apply to any sudden and unpleasant change in your life. I myself have gone through these stages many times. Not to say it's a perfect model, but I think it is a fairly good model. Perhaps it can just be added to a list of potential grieving/coping mechanisms, not to tell people what to do, but to identify how that specific person copes with loss/unpleasant change so as to better treat them psychologically.

I just lost my boyfriend of 5 years last month :( I'll never be able to get over it he was such an amazing person and always put a smile on everyone's face. He is the first person I've ever lost & the only person so close to me.

@annaasatiani5950

3 жыл бұрын

I saw you wrote this post 2 years ago. Please tell me how are you feeling now?

@itzAurora_Xoxo

3 жыл бұрын

I want to know how ur feeling too...I'm sorry for ur loss 😞

Sudden death is more difficult. But long, drawn out death that one in my opinion is much easier.

@SRBOMBONICA86

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely ,my mom died after a long difficult illness ,I feel sad ofcourse but very relieved also

In 1980 I was 7 months pregnant with my son when my mate was run down by a drunk driver...I was standing beside him at the time! I still feel grief ... every day!

@deborahhanna6640

6 жыл бұрын

beth98362 R condolences. I am wondering when they will do some kind of study of long-term grief. My situation is not same but not too dissimilar from yours. Feel mostly stuck in rage for the last 6 years. I don't feel like mental health people properly acknowledge that some situations don't allow for the regular 5-stage greeting card write-off. Nor do friends or family always, even if they share the family member who passed.

I have been grieving for 8 years, there is no right or wrong way, or how long it takes, each person is individual and we all grieve in different ways....Big love....Coping With Loss - KZread

@ChrisJohnson-lh9qb

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry I know how it feels to be lonely without the person you loved, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life goes on because death is inevitable and we'll all have to face it someday, I lost my wife 3yrs ago to a cardiovascular disease, I felt deeply devastated with grief, but that's the past now, time is indeed the best healer. I'd love to talk to you more if you don't mind! it'd be nice if you just say hi, here is my number +17866678266 or rather you can send me your gmail address so I could reach out on you.

3:20 That's the face of a true skeptic. Proud of you, Olivia !

These videos have been quite ironic... I lost someone recently... this video helps though. Thanks scishow for these videos explaining these topics.

If you've seen All That Jazz, you know well enough abut the Kuebler-Ross model.

Awesome job editing Josef! Thanks for taking a break from your hard work to welcome me back to MT and for sushi with Bridget and I... ☺

My beautiful cousin lost her battle with leukemia and passed away today. I love her so much and will miss her always!

I have a question. Have you recently gone through that yourself. I felt it by the way you were talking. And if so....I'm proud of the strength you had. You shot the video and posted. I know it may be something we all go through, but the resiliency and strength despite of..thats special. Love the show. Love your specific episodes as Well. See you next time.

This is why SciShow is awesome. They use science to point out flaws in science. I did my own reading about the "5 stages" of grief and came to the same conclusions. It annoys me that Hollywood perpetuates this myth because then people still think it's a real thing.

From my own experience of grieving, I can say that the dual process model is much more accurate that the ridiculous five stages thing.

I’m dying inside

@Bandodogg

6 жыл бұрын

matrices are really annoying o

@weezerboy6910

6 жыл бұрын

matrices are really annoying I'm dead inside

@rufusneumann9703

6 жыл бұрын

i'm dead outside

@deborahhanna6640

6 жыл бұрын

I am schroedinger's cat.

@raosprid

6 жыл бұрын

And outside, too.

I've lost a few loved ones, but each time I went directly into the 5th stage. I lost them all to lung cancer (yay for smoking) so I knew they were going to die and about when it would happen. I got to accept it before they died and I got to say goodbye. A sudden death like a heart attack or car crash isn't something one can prepare for, which probably makes it harder to cope with

Olivia, you handled this tough subject perfectly.

My gold fish/my only true friend, Timmy, died recently. Prayers appreciated RIP TIMMY

Having a more flexible model seems to make sense , even though as a foundation, Kubler-Ross’s five stages is a great place to start. Grief is very different from person to person, and yes, the context, the unique relationship, the other dynamics surrounding the loss. Grieving is work, so , although I don’t care for Freud’s perversions and world view, the idea of working through grief, rings true.

Mussel Hank: i only know the five stages of BEEF

@sirkarlf

6 жыл бұрын

Sorry I killt yo doggo :(

It was very well elaborated. If you replaced death with loss of someone close. I would gather the physiological processes would be coherently equivalent though again it all depends how close the lost person was or how mentally resilient the griever is. Anyways, great stuff! Thanks for the sum up.

It's not grief.It's horrific trauma when you have promised your husband of 39 years not to allow him kept going by machines..having to be there alone, being stronger than you ever imagined and watch that finality of that last breath when it happens.....having those memories for years never stop that movie in your head...I just miss my mind joined best friend.

This is so well written and researched. I have seen some horrible, dogmatic interventions from unskilled social workers 'helping' children deal with grief. Working through a program from a book (!), they proceed doggedly and brutally, regardless of how the child wants to deal with it. It can be inhuman!

This made me think of a really good book I discovered last year in the wake of a personal loss, by Lucy Hone. It was called "Resilient Grieving: Finding Strength and Embracing Life After a Loss That Changes Everything." And I do recommend it. She talks about stuff like identifying your character strengths and finding out how they could be used to help you in your grieving. Managing your energy levels. And taking the time to notice and foster positive feelings (such as gratitude and humor). I do feel like it helped me through the more acute state of grief. Largely by keeping it all in perspective and having the vocabulary to describe how I was handling it.

I like the way this lady speaks. Her voice and words are clear and she is not as rushed as others. Just my opinion.

The dual process model seems to be similar to coping with divorce. While divorce is objectively viewed as less deserving of the feelings that grief from death evokes, what they both share is a certain sense of separation, which can leave one sort of lost and searching for a way out of the woods. That vulnerability can sometimes lead to poor decisions, but it can also to leave a person convinced that an aggressive campaign to 'get back on the bike' will rid them of the confusion and loneliness. Good video, SciShow.

My dog died eight days ago. Thank you so much for making this video!

Heres a good question, now can you experience the 5 stages of Grief before someone dies, so probably when someone dies you won't go thru the 5 stages !

@Lucario7771

6 жыл бұрын

Sometimes people who have time to grieve before the actual death feel a sense of “relief” when it actually happens, like with chronic illness indicating death in a certain time frame.

Do an episode about if people really become more like the people they are dating

You can trust me when I say there wasn't a single part of me that "denied" I was seeing what I was seeing. Everyone watched while my loved one was dying, because they were showing it on the news as it was happening. The only thing we DIDN'T know is if he'd gone out on a business run, like he did sometimes, so we didn't know if he was inside the building or out somewhere and couldn't get in touch with us because the plane smashing into Tower 1 knocked down communication all over Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and Northern New Jersey. But we know now he was in the building. Anyway, I never felt a sense of denial but the anger has never stopped; it's just that it's cold ire instead of burning rage.

This is interesting timing, I have three friends who had a grandparent die this week.

That double theory is a nail on the head

This just happen to me this night with a bother / sister that was never born.

My grief experiences have been the first 4/5 stages of grief, then instead acceptance, I fluctuate between looking at old photos of my lost loved one and trying to get my life in order.

While I studied Freudian Analysis, it was my understanding that she can out saying that one does not move smoothly from stage to stage, but they can bounce around between different stages at pretty much anytime, in no particular order.

I swear you guys read my mind or something. My dog died suddenly today and this video came out shortly after. There have been several times since I subscribed that you guys have uploaded a video about something I was thinking about that day. It's kind of creepy.

I learned it as "The 5 Stages of Receiving Catastrophic News," with the example of what you'd do if your car didn't start. First you try it again. Then you get angry at it. Then you beg it to start. Then you bemoan being late to work. Then you finally deal with the reality.

Loved the end, love to see you smile Olivia, my sweet gorgon.

I love Olivia Gordon! She's compelling to listen to and explains things so well.

My grandfather whom I was the caregiver for passed away the other day. I feel like it's a bad dream I can not awake from. I lost my father 16 years ago, and I still feel grief. May love be with anyone who is dealing with this process.

What about a grief model bounded by temperament? I would imagine a person high in neuroticism would experience an entirely different sort of grief in entirely different proportions than someone low in neuroticism, and I imagine a highly conscientious person would be far more task-oriented in the face of grief. I need to go back to school...

The five stages are about people who are dying, and studies try replicating results of people's reactions to dead family members? What?

@KnakuanaRka

3 жыл бұрын

Blizzard Kiehn Yeah, people sorta forgot what the model was originally supposed to be about. \_(“/)_/

I get mesmerized when she speaks

Ive read "on death and dying" the big take away i got from it. Was that most people live their lives seeing others suffer, and say "better them than me" ...when it easily could be. Also, the idea of "i worked when i couldve been living my life." Putting off goals or dreams then realizing time is up. ...i feel like its absolutely important to find a balance. I watched this video because i lost my dad in January. I feel like i need to step back and reconfigure myself and how my disabled mom should proceed. She lives alone now. Im at a loss. Literally and figuratively. I dont know what to do. Every decision feels foolish and right at the same time. If he was here id ask him what i should do..but if he was here i wouldnt have to ask.

This video perpetuates a common misunderstanding. The Kubler-Ross model a) isn't meant to be sequential (subjects move in and out of various stages) and b) isn't prescriptive. This latter point also means that not everyone goes through every stage. This is how Kubler-Ross is currently used. Finally, non-psychiatric medical doctors rarely do very much for the grieving process (nor should they necessarily), much of this, in a hospital, is handled by the chaplain's office. (And not just for those who are religious)

This is one of my new favorite episodes.