You know what you’re doing bro Well it’s working

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

Yes he does know what he’s GYYYYYYYAAAAATTTTTTTT

@AdedokunAdebo

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@MusicallyMotivated.😂😂 he’s educating you while using eye candy soundbites. So annoying 😡

@shawnpitman876

2 ай бұрын

@@MusicallyMotivated. Doesn't need clickbaits? So you understand nothing about social media and how to monetize it and you wanna act like you do? Shut up.

@Antnee659

2 ай бұрын

They look stable. Nice low centers of gravity

@jovanygaytan1153

2 ай бұрын

Crazy that you’re sexualizing someone simply stretching, evaluate yourself

That hip to waist ratio

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

my brother in GYYYYYYAAAATTTTTT I noticed that too

@jerbsherb4391

2 ай бұрын

Had me feeling all kinds of ways

@devongee1776

2 ай бұрын

Built herself up quite well

@BABYsith420

2 ай бұрын

FOR REAL...

@johnabrossimow

2 ай бұрын

🫵🏻🤓

I ain't even heard a word that man said.

@gi-zg7fr

Ай бұрын

what man?

@masq808

Ай бұрын

i’m crying 🤣🤣🤣

@michaelelliott1212

Ай бұрын

Oh vanity is thy name.

@loneseeletso8447

24 күн бұрын

Something about statistics i think.. not sure

@YaNeK92

22 күн бұрын

Wait.. you're telling me there was a man who was talking all this stuff about the things? 🤔😂

static stretching is very useful after a good workout.. it additionally brakes the muscle fibers because the muscles are pumped up

Brothers we MUST stay focused ✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿

@Spartan-Of-Truth

2 ай бұрын

Shut up.

@princerak8881

2 ай бұрын

nah i want them

@urbanEzio89

2 ай бұрын

YOU can stay focused 💯

@sirelee5169

2 ай бұрын

😭😭 I'm sorry my brothers

@citizen320

2 ай бұрын

Focused on dat ass 😂

I do prefer static stretching after a workout and dynamic prior to!!

@Michael_B82

2 ай бұрын

I do static and dynamic prior to my workout

@j-rey-

2 ай бұрын

​@@Michael_B82 From what I've read, static stretching is actually more detrimental before a workout. Note, if you are about to play a full football game or something, definitely static stretch as well to reduce the probability of injury. But for a typical workout, static stretches will just inhibit your muscles' ability to contract quickly and effectively. Essentially, it reduces their "springiness," like an overly stretched rubber band. Dynamic stretches are the way to go before typical workouts.

@sonja4164

2 ай бұрын

Same here.

@tsong420

2 ай бұрын

Same same.

@MoralesCorner

2 ай бұрын

​@@j-rey-static stretches before a football game are not a good idea either for the same reasons you just explained

As a trainer dynamic stretching is all my clients do. Pain free and in control.

@TheFenixvolador7

Ай бұрын

Why?

You 100% cracked this strat on KZread wide open like a can of baked beans 😂😂😂

Very "well rounded" athletes. In whatever they decide to do I stand behind them.

@armando12.08

2 ай бұрын

😂😂

@BucketheadsBucket

2 ай бұрын

I'll stand infront to make sure they're goin the right direction

@yaboyjonez9476

2 ай бұрын

@@BucketheadsBucket thank you good sir

@zach2990

2 ай бұрын

I’ll be there for when either of you gentleman get tired, I think that call it a tag team ?

@tjdillashaw2703

2 ай бұрын

It’s one girl lol

Men of culture, pleased to be with you all once again.

@novitrix9671

2 ай бұрын

O7

@Testosteroneisnaturaltrump2024

2 ай бұрын

Vicky plamenova is her name

@scoobydooby6180

2 ай бұрын

@@Testosteroneisnaturaltrump2024 you are clutch

@Testosteroneisnaturaltrump2024

2 ай бұрын

@@scoobydooby6180 no problem

@KingMally89

2 ай бұрын

Here here sir 🫡🫡🫡

I own a tree service so I climb trees often and have been sore but this video made me realize I've only been static stretching so this video is incredibly important Thank You

Most important part about stretching is to never cross your limit! Stretching should NEVER hurt if it doesn’t you need to push less hard or maybe bend your leg a little for example. And do your stretching like a meditation, I learned this through yoga and since that it feels like I have got a new body

These comments are wild 💀💀💀

@PowerliftingAndPhysics

2 ай бұрын

He knows what he's doing

@stepbro3739

2 ай бұрын

The waist to cheek ratio is wild bruv

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

@@stepbro3739 my brother i depend on it to survive

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

Well the thing about wild comments is GYYYYYAAAATTTTTTT

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

@@PowerliftingAndPhysics he’s legendary, my brother

There are at least 2 problems with that study. First, 31 is too small for a sample size. Second, the average age for the study was 17.5 years old, which means the results would only be valid for teenagers. In addition to those problems, I have questions about statistical methods used. For example, for a sample size of 31, did they use nonparametric statistical methods or parametric methods?

@skoparweaver7692

2 ай бұрын

shut your mouth

@MG-jk8ez

2 ай бұрын

Its not the only study. There is a lot more. But the best way to find out is do it youself, you will see a difference

@Blake-pn6xm

2 ай бұрын

@@skoparweaver7692what’s the matter? Too many intelligent questions?

@katiemoseley8243

2 ай бұрын

​@Blake-pn6xm Basically, while the results are definitely true (dynamic stretching is better at reducing muscle tears than static stretching before a workout), the study he references was only done on a small group of people who are relatively young, which decreases the validity of their claims bc the results may not necessarily be applicable to the general population. Other studies with larger sample sizes have definitely proven the benefits of dynamic stretching, its just that he picked a shitty study to reference for this video 🤷‍♀️

@katiemoseley8243

2 ай бұрын

​@@Blake-pn6xmnvm, sorry i didnt see u were responding to a deleted comment!

Dynamic stretches are good for dexterity but it's been shown that it decreased your performance with weight training because it's over stretching you, so mild static is better. But either way most stretching should be done after weight lifting or before cardio.

Hate to break it to you but those girls didn’t post that video to show any kind of stretch or technique. They posted it to show off their good hair day and new gym shorts

I preferred the dynamic stretching 😊

@santiagocruz9426

2 ай бұрын

Heal static on the cool down, but dynamic seems to grease the wheels

@ashoc0

2 ай бұрын

I squat better with static stretching

Bro lured us in with that thumbnail. You smart bastard

@matthewtlapanco9705

2 ай бұрын

xD

@Dread873

2 ай бұрын

Yeah he def got me Lmao

@mycelia_ow

2 ай бұрын

You know, this entire comment section proves why OF models are so successful.

@legendfiregaming7701

Ай бұрын

I bet they got the gyatt

@nonamebp8310

Ай бұрын

He did us a favor, otherwise we wouldn’t be stretching the right way.

Thumbnail got me learning all these crazy knowledges i didn't know before, good shit.

Holy shit that hip to waist ratio 👇

@bhuvaneshs.k638

Ай бұрын

Perfect ratio....

@iggswanna1248

26 күн бұрын

@@bhuvaneshs.k638 thats exactly my thought

@JannWanna-ev3bh

6 күн бұрын

ew

Bro knows what he’s doing 😂

@jzndjs

2 ай бұрын

You got that right sis

@uniquegod1997

2 ай бұрын

ofc he does

@user-sg4ov7ng4h

Ай бұрын

or probably not cause he works out. y'all gross.

Men of culture, we are gathered together again

@sup3414

2 ай бұрын

Touch grass.

@user-hp8uy7jh8f

2 ай бұрын

What?

@Sleepless_Legacy1025

2 ай бұрын

Touch grass.

@tradingarsenal9767

2 ай бұрын

OMFG!!! THey are SO young, fresh, tight, tiny, sexy, perfect.... AMEN!!!

@GhostSeldom6230

2 ай бұрын

@@tradingarsenal9767 Touch grass.

when I first started track, I would get so nervous before the 800. For all the people who have ran the 800 you know why I would be nervous before that race. It’s literal death. So out of anxiousness I would stretch so much. 20 and even 30 minutes. my 800 Coach came up to me and gave me this theory. He said that our muscles are like rubber bands. If you put a rubber band in each finger and stretch it out and hold that rubber band there for an extended period of time it gets loose. It loses its pop. Even though the 800 is long distance race, it’s still a sprint. From that day that’s how I looked at all my stretching, and it has made me a better runner and athlete overall.

@jtango8095

2 ай бұрын

in my first 800 my lungs busted (i have severe asthma) I tripped, fell on my nose and broke it. In front of my crush and her friends

@rockmorales

Ай бұрын

So then, static or dynamic before an 800m run?

@NJ-jc9iq

Ай бұрын

@@rockmorales Dynamic always before running, static for after

@user-sg4ov7ng4h

Ай бұрын

@@rockmorales dynamic are better if you want to avoid injury and just be deeper in your stretch if i remember

I know everyone joking about men of culture n all that but this girl in the vid I follow and she’s genuinely an elite athlete. Her strength and mobility in what would be compromising positions for most is truly impressive.

@QthaKID

2 ай бұрын

What’s her @

Shout out vickyplamenova for the opening stitched video

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

GYYYYYYAAAAATTTTTTTTTT

@smarre12

2 ай бұрын

​@@lionelgrisbane-ud87shut up

@spastinakos7224

2 ай бұрын

Maybe thinking of pinning these comments they get lost pretty easily

@MarcelxDD

2 ай бұрын

This should be pinned 🤔

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

@@MarcelxDD the thing about pinning is GYYYYYYAAAAAAAAATTTTTT

I saw a few hearts 💕 in the intro 😅

@diegomartinex6563

2 ай бұрын

Lmao

@aiiseon

2 ай бұрын

LMAO NAH THATS WILD

I remember my biomechanics professor telling my class this in the 90’s at Fresno State and everyone thought he didn’t know what he was talking about. He showed us studies that showed this but most the class still didn’t believe him. It’s hard to change years of accepted principles, even with scientific evidence.

Dynamic stretching for warm-ups and static stretching for cool-downs is the way to go.

Small sample to actually conclude anything, but it's hardly a surprise that moving your body instead of holding it in a static stretch, improves the ability to move your body.

@Garycatgizmo

2 ай бұрын

Gyra

This is in line with what I've seen and read about stretching from experts and other studies. Static stretching lengthens muscles, and is best performed on fully warmed muscles, ligaments, and tendons, so nothing tears. For the best mobility, you need flexibility, strength, and agility, so using dynamic stretching to warm up is a good idea.

@alexfaundez

2 ай бұрын

Por fin un comentario bien planteado 😊

static stretching does three things, 1, short term joint mobility improvement. 2, long term joint mobility improvement over time. 3, discomfort relief. What it doesn't do, is performance improvement and muscle growth improvement. You only need to static stretch if your joints aren't mobile enough

I like dynamic stretching while I’m working out btwn exercises and static at the end when I am cooling down.

For most people, dynamic stretching is a workout by itself.

@bobertgallardo2029

2 ай бұрын

That's what I'm sayin 😂 some go from static as a warm up into dynamic as the work out.

@OneHuntiBoi

2 ай бұрын

It really shouldnt be though.

@greenytaddict

2 ай бұрын

Which reminds me of yoga

@sauravkumarpathak2125

Ай бұрын

​@@greenytaddictyes

Considero que en esta ocasión la forma de abordar el tema ha sido errónea. Se pudo comenzar por: "Existen muchas variantes de flexoelasticidad y cada una tiene una función diferente; por tanto se usan en diferentes momentos del entrenamiento, por ejemplo: 1. Si quieres mejorar el balance los estiramientos dinámica son la mejor opción. 2. Los estiramientos estáticos don ideales al final del entrenamiento. Validar la información con estudios es importante tanto como el enfoque que se le da. A pesar de que en algún momento trata de aclarar que los estiramientos no son malos se queda en el aire la impresión de que hacer estiramientos estáticos no es una buena idea.

@sarcon2780

2 ай бұрын

Y de la tabla, 3 de 4 son a favor de los estiramientos estáticos.

Static stretching is great for fascia (eg chronic tightness). Muscles only need a few seconds to stretch so dynamic works better for them.

I did static stretching before exercises for ages and felt negative effects. Dynamic stretches are far better. Static stretches are for after exercising.

My brothers in GYYYYYYYAAATTTTTTT we meet once again to stay absolutely focused

@lanacology

2 ай бұрын

Y’all are down horrendous in these comments. All y’all can think about. It’s actually sad

@Technoanima

2 ай бұрын

​@@lanacology You're mistaken. If it doesn't work, then humanity has bigger problems.

@Audest59_adadiking

2 ай бұрын

Ayo😂👊🏽🔥WE MUST STAY FOCUSED brothers💪💯

@supagreatman2826

2 ай бұрын

Fr tho

@Leigeobiz

2 ай бұрын

@@lanacologyfr ts is cringe Omds 😭😭😭

I let my weakness take over me 💀

@dolfandynasty2838

2 ай бұрын

We all did fam, we all did

@amgwireless3610

2 ай бұрын

🗣️“Nubile”

Absolutely should save the static stretching for after the work out.

I learned the benefits of dynamic stretches in martial arts training warm ups. Static stretches are best as cool down to improve long term flexibility and thereby reduce future risk of injury (and also increase striking range).

When the blue girl is up❤

@jah3219

2 ай бұрын

Bro…

@natking1u1z99

2 ай бұрын

Stop playing 😂😂😂

@snowfall221

2 ай бұрын

Touch grass, quit being a creep. Edit: the comment thread below just further proves how degrading men are to women.🫠

@usern4metak3ns

2 ай бұрын

that's what she's used for yup

@DanteArisen

2 ай бұрын

Its a joke not a dick, dont take it so hard lol​@@snowfall221

Both are beneficial. The worst thing you can NOT do is warm up and stretch. Dynamic is a combination warmup/stretch.

@VonRibbitt

2 ай бұрын

Eh, i, ve never warmup in my life and i have never gotten injured

@pedrodesu

2 ай бұрын

@@VonRibbitt you'll get there if you keep going

@VonRibbitt

2 ай бұрын

@@pedrodesu na not really

@aztecmeza9234

2 ай бұрын

​@@VonRibbitt I'd be more worried about mobility issues as you age. It's your life good thing about life is you don't have to implement anything anyone says.

@Jachammer93

2 ай бұрын

Warming up doesn't matter much for strength training usually

I personally enjoy dynamic stretches vs static stretches. It hurts less to move then to sit in pain. Static is good for cool down because for one I usually get to sit or sit in a pose so I get to rest as well as stretch.

Dynamic streatches to warm-up before exercise. Static stretches to not get workout pain after exercise.

Sad thing is for someone like me who is middle age and on beginner level dynamic stretching is already part of the exercise itself NOT just a warmup 😅

@blarghblargh

2 ай бұрын

Improvements come over time. Start easy, keep the consistency. That's way more important than hitting an arbitrary goal

I've always been confused by this. Dynamic stretching looks like a work out to me. Stretching is static stretching. I have done this for ages and got to the point that I felt like it was a must. However, balance wasn't a high priority. I have never noticed a lack of agility either. I am sure the study is correct but my own experience seems different.

@Boi33-mc4hs

2 ай бұрын

Yea I do YIN YOGA. It’s a practice of holding stretches for up to 3 mins. I have seen improvements in balance and agility. My mental health has improved and my ability to focus. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@captainspirou

2 ай бұрын

Dynamic stretching means light exercise to the maximum range of your movement. It should be part of a warm-up

Ancient news. Static is to improve flexibility long term. Dynamic is to increase performance directly prior. The body should be warm enough for at least a drop of sweat to form before either to reduce injury and increase effectiveness.

Those mechanic tips were spot on

Did track and field . We always did stretching after warming up

@a5a346

2 ай бұрын

Same ✅

That's a really small sample.

@BGeezy4sheezy

2 ай бұрын

Yeah doesn’t sound like a very serious study

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

Well the thing about small samples is GYYYYYAAAAAATTTTTTT

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

@@BGeezy4sheezy yea totally it doesn’t sound serious at all, I mean when you put it in perspective GYYYYYYYAAAAATTTTTTT

@Mii..

2 ай бұрын

​@@lionelgrisbane-ud87 why are you saying gyatt everywhere??

@MOE13576

2 ай бұрын

​@@Mii..he's a no life

Static stretching before training actually does correlate to higher injury rate. So calling it not harmful might be slightly misleading.

One could interpret that coordinating exercises increase coordination and hence agility. Static stretch to loosen up but do dynamic functional movements to warm up before performance

Love love love your videos can't believe these are free! Straight to the point and clearly explained without bias or withholding information.

In all my years in Sports they thought us to never ever static strech as warmup or after warmup. Always static strech after finished workout.

@milana2020

2 ай бұрын

In high school (New York) they taught us to do static before and after gym/ practice.

@milana2020

2 ай бұрын

Ofc it was wrong too

@Made-yv3gt

2 ай бұрын

Why was that?

Well this only shows that static stretching is bad for warming up before your athletic performance. Honestly, it's pretty intuitive. However, the question is how either of these styles contributes to long term-stretching goals (splits, kicking higher etc.)

I feel like static streatching before a workout also increases the risk of injury since your muscles are extra loose and you might accidentally go too far beyond your mobility range.

Well you also need to include the reason your stretching. If its a warmup before a sport then dynamic seems to be good but if its to increase flexibility static can be better in some cases.

My God!!! Lord I know I haven't been to church and a min. But I have received the sign that you are real!!

Shaolin monks have been dynamic stretching for centuries. When I first started stretching, they thought dynamic stretching was bad. Both have their place. Static yoga poses are great too.

Best warm up for me is 3-5minutes of rowing machine. Quick, easy, gets your heart rate going.

Bro i promise i’ll still watch your videos without the click baits, let them go 😭

Static stretches reduce elasticity in the muscle fibers, do it after lifting.

Dynamic stretching and easier variations of your current workout in low reps help the body prep for heavier load and or progression

Lemme rewatch to master the stretch routine

You shouldn't be skipping static stretching though, just don't use it for warm up. Static stretching is what unlocks more flexibility.

And when lifting weights static stretches actually increase likelihood of injury, so if you do stretches before a workout do active stretches if you want to stretch afterwards then do static stuff..

Dynamic is best unless you’re in recovery from injury/sickness/fatigue or a dynamic day. I like to finish my day by rolling out a yoga mat and lollin around on it, stretchin what ever feels good for a few mins. No program. At the very least it helps me crash asleep in bed and not wriggle n twitch.

Son : “dad did we win” Dad : “we all did son we all did”

@LegendJoe3063

2 ай бұрын

Literally meaningless

I hear everyone mentioning static stretching or dynamic stretching in videos but not a single one of them states what they are exactly.

Damn.. i use to write a thesis regarding effect of static stretching towards strength performance.. yup strength prfrmce also drop

He can't keep getting away with this!!

Needed this one today.

While I prefer dynamic stretching myself, I wouldn't base my decisions off a single study featuring 31 highschoolers... Hardly sounds conclusive! I've enjoyed your content, so please continue to keep yourself to a high standard

Warm up with light cardio, do some dynamic stretching.. then start your strength training. Easy. Leave your static stretching for after you've done a good warm up and light work out

Backshots with her gotta be the most stable thing ever

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

You GYYYYYYYAAAAAAATTTTTT it my brother

@K.I.A-2.0

2 ай бұрын

Fr

@elsereno4

2 ай бұрын

@@lionelgrisbane-ud87You need help.

@sonniowenbarnes4656

2 ай бұрын

💀

@Leigeobiz

2 ай бұрын

Yo what the fuck

In high school I had to lose 2lbs in about 2 hours to make weight for powerlifting meet. I jogged in sweats nearly 2 hours, made weight and then had the best performance of my high school career, even taking home highest total trophy for pound to pound. You’d be surprised just how warmed up you can get for peak performance.

Static stretching will mess you up, it works for long term flexibility, but it basically hurts your muscles and tendons and requires time to recover. All martial arts that have kicks require static stretching.

Can you do a playlist for best dynamic stretches for running/jogging?

Stay focused brothers.

@Ulas_35

2 ай бұрын

Day one and i see this video

@user-hp8uy7jh8f

Ай бұрын

Get a life

@vrjit

Ай бұрын

@@user-hp8uy7jh8f I’m repostin. It’s been s whole ass month since, Why you hating? Take your own advice 😂

They need to be facing the other way

@Tomtainius

2 ай бұрын

Go outside Rob

@valus1321

2 ай бұрын

Rob, go.

@thomasspielman577

2 ай бұрын

I'm with you Rob. These other comments pretend to be morally superior but they're dishonest. People shaming you are the same ones beating off to P*rnH*b tonight.

@bryanp5843

2 ай бұрын

Rob

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely my brother. GYYYYYAAAAATTTTTTT

Stretching just makes the pain worse by terring on your bands.

Static stretching is better for flexibility sports like gymnastics, while dynamic stretching is better for high impact sports like track and field.

Cameraman should have stood behind for a better angle

@bxi1547

2 ай бұрын

You dudes are really really creepy.

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

Yep. GYYYYYAAAAATTTTTT

@lionelgrisbane-ud87

2 ай бұрын

@@bxi1547well the thing about creepy is GYYYYYAAAAATTTTTTT

@bxi1547

2 ай бұрын

@@lionelgrisbane-ud87 And that’s exactly why women don’t like any of you dudes.

@user-qu7gq7io6j

2 ай бұрын

Go outside simp

Back shots go insane!! Not even king Arthur could pull me out

Doing dynamic stretching allows your body to open more than any other option. Try doing static, stretching, then squats and see that your range of motion isn’t correct then do static stretching in your range of motion will be better than it’s ever been as well as you will be more explosive.

Well yeah its common knowlage that static should only be done after a workout to return muscles to regular lenght and avoid/fix imbalances. Anyone who knows anything ab working out should know this othervise should get a personal trainer

Watched a group of senior tai chi participants dynamic stretching before their class this morning!

There's research (don't have the source saved, but it's through one of the major climbing channels here on YT - might have been Lattice?) that shows that static stretches as a warm-up has negative effects - but only for a short time. This was specifically in the context of climbing, but should have some broader applicability, and in essence the findings were that static stretches reduced power recruitment and overall performance (when stretching relevant muscle groups) for 10-15 minutes afterwards. After this, these effects went away entirely, while the other benefits for stretching stayed. So, if you're doing static stretches for a warm-up, make sure to do them early in your warm-up and follow them with warm-ups that match what you're planning to do to aid in muscle recruitment and power. And if you're warming up properly, those 10-15min will fly by anyway. Btw, did the survey you're quoting have a control group? 'Cause it kind of sounded like they had a "30s stretch (essentially no warm-up)" group, alongside two groups doing significant warm-ups, and that's ... uh, rather lopsided.

Your data is always awakening ❤ love it

A study with 31 sarticipants is basically useless. And stretching for less than 2 mins per exercise doesnt improve your mobility. It is only for preventing injuries

Lmfao seeing his face creeping in the corner with the countdown before he starts yapping after luring us all in with baddies.

Not only does it ruin the things mentioned, but if I recall correctly, it reduces force output of muscle groups by a noticeable margin as well. Meaning: You won't be able to hit a new PR on bench or squat if you static stretch first.

Did the UK military research this too. They found static stretching before exercise increased the risk of injury during the workout.

Actually you should mix dynamic and static stretches as well as active and passive in your routine

Increased blood flow and body temps matter! Otherwise you’re stretch cold, constricted rubber bands

The only reason I do stretching is better performance when running. Without static stretching it takes 20 minutes of running to feel more or less ok. I will feel some irritation in Achilles tendon, will end up with discomfort with harmstring.

I stopped static after i noticed pain increased. Did more dynamic and now I can run 5k in an hour. Been loving your videos. Inspired me to get my various fitness certifications this summer.

Static stretching is very good only if you are really sore and need to train.

The problem I see now is not the information but the source! I see these two young girls advising as many other fitness influencers do about stretching the wrong way! Unfortunately, they have thousands or millions or followers who fall for this and spread this bad information to others and it will never stop. For years we know now that static stretching is not the most adequate form before training but again. Fitness unfit influencers don’t care about what’s right or wrong for views

I'm pretty sure ANY stretching is good for you. I wouldn't go as far as to discourage static stretching even if dynamic stretching is better. People don't stretch enough.