My 2 favourite nutritional experts in a video !!!!!

@bonwrentaylor2743

4 ай бұрын

Dr Will may be a nutritional expert, Johnathan Wolf however is not ....(I also like them both though).

@billywade4916

4 ай бұрын

@@bonwrentaylor2743 hopefully tim spector is there (who i really meant, too much anticipation)

Think about it this way: almost all the animals our forebears hunted and killed were not fat in the way that farmed cattle, fish, poultry, or lamb are. They existed in their own food chains, where getting fat meant getting eaten. What modern farming has done is remove predators from the equation, giving us meats that contain vastly more fat than you'll see in any game animal. Add in the food that these animals are fed - the lowest quality corn money can be, ground up vegetables that are unfit for human consumption - and you can see why these foods might be unhealthy.

@beantreats

4 ай бұрын

Well put

@annakissed3226

4 ай бұрын

Yes, your correct stockade farming as practiced in the USA by Big Ag is terrible and should be banned. Which it largely is in Europe. Most Ruminants live on grass. And yes your right we have genetically engineered Ruminants via selecting animals with 'acceptable' traits. But that is as nothing to how much plants have been completely changed. If you compare a natural cabbage/brussel sprout/broccoli/kale? To the what we eat now, it would be considered inedible given that you would first need to strip it of all its woody bits, its thorns, it's hard scaly outer, and then you would need to cook it for a lot of hours at high heat to kill off all the chemical weapons its produces to kill anything that tries to eat it.

@ellie698

4 ай бұрын

Good point!

@brucejensen3081

4 ай бұрын

Yes, did depend a bit on climate, with fat stores, but basically correct. They also didn't eat much energy dense carbohydrate. The argument you put forward is that we should be eating like a kilogram of protein per day and very low on other macros. I don't think that would be optimal

@mikecrawford9537

3 ай бұрын

Wild bison still have a lot of fat (more or less seasonally), in the areas of their body which are designed to store fat. This fat would have been the most valuable part of the animal. It seems obvious that our ancestors ate a lot of fat. There are plenty of humans who eat plenty of fat with no issues at all, it's the carbs which are the issue.

I do not understand. Many times it seems as if the doctors don't even want us to see clearly . Honorable exceptions . The exception is you Dr.Li. Thank you. ❤❤

1:08 Dr. Li, this seems to be at odds with a video ZOE did last year about the ketogenic diet where Christopher Gardner actually explained how the amount of fat in your blood (triglycerides) increases when you eat carbohydrates, and goes down when you eat a high fat diet. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYiXxauyeM3ehrg.htmlsi=QJ5n4vC369BsCr-N Around the 24:25 mark. Since you are specifying blood lipids, it seems both can't be true?

@ajayrbhat8056

4 ай бұрын

same doubt....

@gregorygreene1940

4 ай бұрын

Welcome to the world of YT nutrition. There is a study both favorable and unfavorable to every single measurable metric out there. You are at the mercy of what the presenter cherry picks for data. Usually done in order to promote a book, diet, or supplement. Sadly, YT has become the great equalizer of all data. So much so that you can't draw any conclusions from it.

@Caladcholg

4 ай бұрын

​@@gregorygreene1940​true that. YT or not, you think one channel at least would be able to keep it's own 'story' straight, if that's what's going on.

@davesmith826

4 ай бұрын

The great equaliser is Gil Carvahlo (Nutrition Made Simple)). No one comes even remotely close to him in terms of objectivity and data-driven analysis. @@gregorygreene1940

@followyournature

4 ай бұрын

When you see the word "truth" in the title, you can bet it's not actually the truth. There is actually no single doc or medical professional that knows what is happening in our bodies... because every "body" is different and there are tons of factors to take into consideration, such as environment, physical activity, and on and on.

Eliminating meat and coconut oil from my diet dropped my cholesterol by about half. Despite fasting for years , my body couldn’t handle saturated fats. This advice is science based. Thanks.

Wish this guy would give more evidence based commentary. "All of these conspire together to thwart the natrual resilience of our circulation"

Would love to see you folks do an episode on specific ultra processed food ingredients and if they're good or bad. Whenever I read ingredients lists I'm still not fully sure what I should be looking out for. I used to avoid "Guar Gum" because of its name, but now I'm reading that it's a form of soluable fiber and actually beneficial for controlling blood sugar. Please breakdown common ingredients like gums, acids, enriched flours, etc. It would be a delight to get more insight on this! Tim Spector and Chris van Tulleken would be perfect for discussing this topic.

@annettestephens5337

4 ай бұрын

Best and most natural way to control blood sugar is.....don’t eat much sugar / carbohydrates. Eat unprocessed fatty meat and keep carbs to low amounts and blood sugar will stay lowish and stable without the need for any blood lowering additives

@julliannedlc

4 ай бұрын

@@annettestephens5337 I'm aware of this and am trying to limit sugar and carbohydrate intake when I can. Guar gum lowering blood sugar was just an example of how some processed food ingredients might have benefits while others don't. My apologies. I'd just like to see an episode breaking down common processed food ingredients is all. Thank you for your insights!

@annakissed3226

4 ай бұрын

​@@julliannedlc​@julliannedlc go look at Jason Fung on time restricted feeding & fasting. It doesn't matter if your carnivore or vegan, fasting can help massively. I am currently on a 1 week fast because I am on antibiotics. Bacteria cant eat Ketones so it kills the infection faster. However, antibiotics do damage our biome so I will be re-establishing the gut biome by eating lots of fermented foods e.g. kimchi, along with lactobacillus & Kefir Yogurt & eggs, blood, asian & indian meals etc

@annteather2826

4 ай бұрын

I wondered about guar gum; it sounds horribly processed, but Guar is a vegetable used in Indian cooking. I think I would much rather cook the whole guar.

@bobadams7654

4 ай бұрын

Chris VT covers much of this in his talks. Latest ones I've found are 2 Norwegian podcasts. He always says, if you don't find it in a regular kitchen, then it's upf.

Dr gunthry has a commercial that I see on KZread all of the time where he says you should have about three table spoons of olive oil a day 🤔

@roch369

10 күн бұрын

Dr. Gunthry is a quak.

All very confusing when these Doctors have different views and advice

I had very low cholesterol until I went though menopause. Total cholesterol was 2. I don’t eat UPF. Then about a year after menopause it started going up. At 6 I started taking satins having tried being vegan for a year. This seems very odd.

Does he actually say why circulating fat in the blood from diet is bad?

@kopiec6565

4 ай бұрын

Because high levels of lipids in blood will create fatty deposits and block your arteries

Predictably, in demonising Sat fats you go after meat but not all that cheese Tim seems obsessed with.

the thing is, if one has fats in the blood, how do the wonderful carbs get into our cells ??? Also, @Peter Rogers MD has done videos on oils, fat, blood sludge. I prefer HCLF. #love my carbs #no carb phobia here

@brucejensen3081

4 ай бұрын

Carbs are the preferred source, but will deplete rapidly. If you want to last longer than 5 minutes, you need some fats for sustained energy

How on earth does greese, go into your blood stream?

@simonround2439

4 ай бұрын

|t doesn't

@kopiec6565

4 ай бұрын

Of course it does, just not directly but through the lymphatic system. What do you think happens to the fat you eat after it gets digested, how does it get absorbed?

@ImYourHuckleberry205

4 ай бұрын

@@kopiec6565 a hundred years ago they would call that dirty blood

@kopiec6565

4 ай бұрын

@@ImYourHuckleberry205 no but lipids are after they are broken down, which is what he refers to if you weren't trying to listen to him in bad faith. Saying grease doesn't get into your blood is like saying that sucrose doesn't get into your blood, just because it's first broken down into its components.

@k8eekatt

4 ай бұрын

It is taken in through capillaries (small blood vessels) lining the intestine. First it is broken into tiny droplets with bile, in the small intestine. You can actually see droplets of fat in the blood under a microscope trained on circulating blood in the vessels. It makes the red blood cells stick together, and clog up little passages.

Some people watch a lot of stuff, they are pretty educated. Zoe has these scientists, but they only know one thing, and the interviewing is not very probing. For instance this guy seems to be taking quite an old fashioned line with blaming animal saturated fats on atherosclerosis and heart disease, but there's no questioning of this. What about the rise of seed oils and the concomitant rise in obesity, diabetes and heart disease? What is his proof? Wouldn't a more challenging, scientific debate be better?

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Ugh, I'm more confused and unhealthy than ever! How do I lower my blood pressure? Loose weight! How do I lose weight? It's complicated!

I’m getting so confused with Zoe, I’m not sure you’re being totally clear what you mean here because at face value this seems to conflict with other content. And sadly the daily diets series was seriously lacking nuance or understanding of the arguments at hand. Still love this pod just a little disappointed at the moment.

It seems like there are some comments by AI bots on here 🤔

@StephenMarkTurner

4 ай бұрын

you mean comments like "Dynamic presentation style keeping the audience captivated and engaged from start to finish" - lol

@brandon3872

4 ай бұрын

@@StephenMarkTurner Lol yes, these bots aren't quite sophisticated enough to go unnoticed 😅

@Caladcholg

4 ай бұрын

Wait until you see the one that mentions how great the 'pixles' are. I really hope these 'automatically post a generic compliment' bots aren't 'hired' by Zoe...

@ricado372

4 ай бұрын

Not just bots. This channel is being targeted by trolls spouting disinformation. I caught one out the other day. He goes by nudger5 . When I started calling out his nonsense, he blocks messages . What I haven't worked out yet is why and whose interest it is to pay him. But clearly, someone's feeling threatened by this channel.

@Caladcholg

4 ай бұрын

@@ricado372 haha, what video was that on?

I hate these videos that stop practically in mid-sentence. Is there a way to tell when it's just a piece and not the whole thing up front?

Whats with the bots?

No. It is the continuous grains, sugar and industrial seed oil consumption. A one-two punch to our glycocalyx. I eat a plate of spaghetti, and my blood pressure goes up. sigh.

He's not finishing sentences in the context of how the sentence began. Jumping around all over the place.

Very biased. Mixing processed foods with red meat. Was looking for the discussion about fat? Fat does not go straight into the blood it is digested and broken down to monoglycerides and fatty acids, then into the blood. Very disappointed in this video.

Zoe, your losing your way, please stop lecturing ppl and help ppl

This was interesting, except, right at the most important part, it's cut. Totally unprofessional, insulting, and counterproductive; to say the least.

Why does this finish halfway through a sentence 😡😡😡😡😡

Can't go with guy downside of fats this guys says...

I learnt nothing from this

Oil is not in your blood...lol... Fats that are broken down are carried through your body are present but it is NOT oil like in your car engine..lol This is just a click bait line for us ignorant ones.

Makes you wonder how we survived as a species for 100s of thousands of years eating meat. I love the informercial style of questioning to feed the answers too.

@tomscum61

4 ай бұрын

We didn't actually eat that much meat. Aside from shell fish which was easy to gather. Meat was occasionally available rather than daily.

4 ай бұрын

Carnivore propaganda

@Fitzrovialitter

4 ай бұрын

​@@tomscum61Thanks for the insight; congrats on your 100,000 years of experience.

@Caladcholg

4 ай бұрын

@tomscum61 right, we didn't eat everyday. Even nowadays, once your stop mobilizing your insulin, you wonder how you even did the corporate 'eat morning, noon and night' routine we all grew up on.

@PETROS_GGG

4 ай бұрын

@@tomscum61 "occasionally available" OK, 50 or 100 thousand years ago, meat was so "occasionally available" that our ancestors in caves carved-painted hunting animals as an "occasionally available" sport...

What a stupid - it didn't even finish.

@musicloverUK

4 ай бұрын

It's a 'short', the full length video link is in the blurb

Lol…

This guy knows absolutely zero.

Misinformation and disinformation

Bull#hit

Utter nonsense. This guy is out of the stone age. My lipids are spot on and I eat meat every day. I practice intermittent fasting though.

@alessandro3139

4 ай бұрын

Like those saying smoking is bad for your health! My friend's grandfather smoke 2 packs per day and is 104!

@jimhignett6993

4 ай бұрын

@@alessandro3139 No, not at all.

@alessandro3139

4 ай бұрын

@@jimhignett6993 Why not? He is 104 and is totally fine, smoking two packs per day since he was a teenager! If you think smoking is bad you are clearly out of the stone age!

@jimhignett6993

4 ай бұрын

@@alessandro3139 Don't be ridiculous.

@alessandro3139

4 ай бұрын

@@jimhignett6993 I'm glad you realized that your fallacious way of reasoning, which takes one lucky case and generalizes it to the entire population, is absolutely ridiculous!

I totally DISAGREE with this information. Yes I have more fats in the blood than I used to, but that’s because I eat a high fat ketogenic diet. If there was no fats in my blood I would have no energy. I am using that fat for fuel. My blood pressure is normal.

@TheFreeMelonSociety

4 ай бұрын

Yes.. but the point is.. it is a very physiologically impairing thing in the not too long run, for one to make the unfortunate decision to eat tons of fatty foods and so few of the more appropriate fruits and vegetables. This has been so thoroughly tested its baffling how many people are taken by the same atkins style diet that left a war-path of dead bodies in its wake. . The problems with choking your body tissues with fat have far more potential implications than just blood pressure, and a normal blood pressure is no insulation against the weight of biochemical tumult that a diet so absurdly rich in fat cultivates in your body. Anyhow, we re all trying to be healthy and doing what we feel is best. Sending best wishes for your health. God bless

@off-the-record6613

4 ай бұрын

Yes ..but you are fat adapted....if anybody reading this, if you're not fat adapted, DONT eat fat.

@stevelanghorn1407

4 ай бұрын

Heart disease is relatively low in China, Vietnam, Korea etc and they eat plenty of fatty red meat, like fatty, greasy Pork for example. What they don’t eat (yet!) is masses of processed carbs and sugar-laden fodder that we in the West habitually consume…or are “offered”@@TheFreeMelonSociety

@Kathryn-Alexander

4 ай бұрын

There's a long-term downside to chronic adrenal exhaustion. As the body measures glucose, not fatty acids, as a fuel, when we rely on fats for energy the adrenals will keep secreting cortisol. That's a known fact. It can make you feel great to begin with, along with the adrenaline That's also released. The other hurdle is managing the acidity that's generated from these diets. The kidneys are limited in their capacity to eliminate acids and they have a daily threshold and what then occurs is a state of chronic acidity that is buffered by the bones. So we may not see the effects for 10 years or so in our own bodies.

Truly dreadful video. Talking about fat rather than the particular foods Lumping all fats together Perpetuating the likely saturated fat myth No mention of things like keto Saying red meat is bad when (unprocessed) it isn't All in all appalling. And I don't even eat meat so I've no axe to grind

Propaganda, last video for me, to many contradictions with other views even their own. Science is a debate, where you have opposing views where you make your arguments, propaganda is one eyed with no challenges to the speaker. This is very British, polite commericals nothing is challenged. Name the last guest challenged, if you cannot theres a problem.

@semi-mojo

4 ай бұрын

Science is not debate wth

@Caladcholg

4 ай бұрын

​@semi-mojo then what is it? How do you even know what to look for?

@bobadams7654

4 ай бұрын

@peterjgreaves can you explain a bit more about the unchallenged contradictions you've noticed?

@hannahmulligan1103

4 ай бұрын

The science is not up for debate. The problem is science is not properly understood by the general population. The general population has little understanding of how research works. This channel discusses what the majority of RESEARCH IS SHOWING US. What the results of the research compiled are. If you have an issue with that, you aren't looking to learn. You are looking to cherry pick from the conversation what you would like to believe. People who 'debate' science back and forth usually use one or two studies to back up their point and miss the overwhelming amount of research showing the opposite. Sometimes research as adds on and provides a greater understanding of a topic. That's different. The conflicting information you are likely thinking about is research that can be added on - there are two different types of LDL cholesterol. Pattern A and pattern B. One of them is associated with disease and the other is associated with a lower risk of disease. A high fat diet in items such as Grass fed butter, bacon, cottage cheese, etc. Increases the beneficial pattern. Regardless of this though, a high fat diet combined with a high carb diet will result in higher triglycerides and weight gain. I think the reason the channel is not condoning a high fat diet is because they encourage a high fiber diet. Fiber is a carb. If you were eating a high fiber diet, you would likely be eating a high carbohydrate diet. It wouldn't be beneficial for your health. They also do not tell people that they cannot eat bread or carbs. Most of the listeners have not cut carbs from gluten containing items. To advice them to eat a high fat diet may be harmful. Hopefully they have an episode where they get into the different patterns of LDL cholesterol. :) I think that would fill in some missing peices and add to the conversation.

@hannahmulligan1103

4 ай бұрын

To determine what type of pattern you have, you would need an advanced cholesterol panel completed. You can ask your doctor for this though they likely won't complete it. You'll have to pay for it privately.

My blood pressure is good, 112/70 from recent check up 👍I am omnivore because God allowed the consumption of meat for a reason, probably due to the effects of the Global Flood on vegetation and animal life. However, in the Bible, the Levites, since their service at the temple took them away from the benefits of year round farming, were allowed to consume parts of the animal sacrifice as food. They were not to consume the fat from animal sacrifices. That was to be cut away from the meat and cooked separately as an aroma. This does not mean that God was tasting that or needed fat for himself. He needed that ancient nation to be healthy (those that adhered to the laws) for the birth of a Messiah, which would not arrive for a few thousand years later. That law of not eating the fat, did not apply to the entire nation but served as an example to the nation. Other nations had their own laws or customs on how to eat meat, which is why many of them suffered from health problems. They did not bleed meat properly or raise them properly. They also did not understand the ecosystem in the way that knowing how animals eat, their microbiomes and what would be healthy to consume for longevity. The problem today is not necessarily the fat but mostly, how the animals are raised. Animals are raised to be fattier because they are fed corn and soy (GMO and organic plants, normally not part of their intended diet). That is what God did not want Ancient Israel to do. He did not need them to be experimenting with livestock and hurting their health to get the most flavorful cut of meat. Pasture raised, grass fed, grass finished with no added soy or corn was how they ate their meat. They are leaner by nature but the modern processed food world complicated the assimilation of fat in people by adding excess sugars, GMO produce, altering genetics of animals, excessive processed carbohydrates, pasteurizing milk, etc. Now, for many, their systems need a resetting.