IF ANYONE HAS ACHIEVED ADULTHOOD...WITHOUT TRAUMA..BE THANKFUL. ARETHA WAS A LEGEND AND NO ONE CAN EVER TAKE THAT FROM HER.😔

@lalat5899

10 ай бұрын

No one’s trying to take anything from her. 😅

@PlusVK22

10 ай бұрын

Everyone's had some type of trauma on some level. Some worse than others.

@missamerica2694

10 ай бұрын

Being raped and impregnated by your father is not typical childhood trauma ; this is demonic!

@malcriadamedina5358

10 ай бұрын

Such a twisted way of thinking. No one is taking anything from her for having been abused as a child...

@AHLIYON

9 ай бұрын

She literally had a period in her life where she was alcoholic. She has definitely had some trauma but she didn’t let her trauma Overcome her. That’s the difference.

Sexual abuse from fathers to daughters probably is the most horrifying trauma there is. I hope she had some type of person or therapy that helped her internally. Invisible injury is something else.

@LalasKitchenCo

10 ай бұрын

Yes it is. Nothing compares and the trauma lasts a lifetime

@successmanifestation2769

10 ай бұрын

I was touched by my father and trust and believe that pain of betrayal never goes away. I have huge trust issues and I don’t trust anyone around my daughter, especially men.

@NatureHeadSupreme

10 ай бұрын

@@successmanifestation2769 yes, I relate on top of physical abuse. I hope your healing stays trending upward. Hardest recovery ever.

@latema.k

10 ай бұрын

@@successmanifestation2769i’m so sorry to hear that mama!

@lightskinssj9815

10 ай бұрын

Don’t know a lot about her but for the time period and her being a young women/ girl most likely overlooked by family in regards to her father but I assuming

Celie said it best, "A girl child ain't safe in a house full of men"!!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼👀👂🏼🙋‍♀️🏃🏽‍♀️🏃🏽‍♀️🏃🏽‍♀️❤

@LTAries88

10 ай бұрын

That was Sophia

@Darkandlovelyqueen1

10 ай бұрын

she said not safe In family men

@letitiaabuckley7968

10 ай бұрын

@@LTAries88 Thank you! Sophia, Celie it still is TRUE!!🎯

@letitiaabuckley7968

10 ай бұрын

@@Darkandlovelyqueen1 Thank you. What was said is TRUE!!!🎯

@CearaSulierLove

10 ай бұрын

That’s sad…. But it really is all about how you were raised… I was practically raised in the same house with 5 older male cousins and never felt anything but safe & protected around them…. We were raised in the Pentecostal COGIC Church, and No our family of course wasn’t perfect although GrandDad was a Pastor, Nana District Missionary and all that lol…. There was still “mess”…. & some stories of distant “kissing cousins” that I’ve never met from way back & stuff like that…. But I truly believe in the Spiritual warfare, strongholds, & generational curses, etc… that mess is real… but I agree, in a lot of cases that statement is sadly true… but not all. That stuff runs deep & way back…. Also, gotta know what kind of people you are marrying into as well….. People are weird behind closed doors man…. Scary…

Damn her father was a wolf in sheep’s clothing. That was a sick man to do that to your own daughter.

It sickens me that all these adults in her church and around her sat back and allowed the abuse of a child and refused to report it.😢

@KeithEasley-vc1mb

10 ай бұрын

This is a loe

@lulugoulart5014

10 ай бұрын

That is what churches do! Allowing priests, preachers and pastors do whatever they want.🤮

@Bri-nc8yp

10 ай бұрын

This is why I don’t go to black church’s… we black people are degenerate outside the church and even more degenerate inside the church.

@KNByam

9 ай бұрын

Those adults hold a preacher up as though they're God. All the women in the congregation want to be a preacher's wife, so there's a lot of philandering.

@ForevaLaTrelle

9 ай бұрын

Ppl treat pastors like a god in a lot of churches. Like they can do no wrong. Where I live, there’s a church where the pastor had to register as a sex offender got messing with young girls in the church. And ppl still choose to go there like nothing happened. Just sick.

It’s awful how the church has historically been a hub for soo much abuse. Folks are tied to these buildings and institutions where they are being mislead, exploited and abused. The church is literally the cause of soo much hurt, specifically in our community.

@CammieCakesz

10 ай бұрын

The church hasn’t done anything but be there. It’s these wolves in sheep’s clothing that use God and the church to manipulate people! Stop blaming the church and start holding the PEOPLE accountable! The church is just a place to gather to receive the word. Ppl come to the church already broken and is full of sinners. God didn’t tell these ppl to be wicked and if you were spiritual or religious you’d know what they do is the opposite of what they preach! That’s why it’s important to know God as he provides discernment.

@alegria1094

10 ай бұрын

And that’s all because people don’t read the Bible and start following man with false doctrine and make them gods by, putting them on a pedestal on the place of God

@lamarx1271

10 ай бұрын

@@alegria1094 the slavemaster’s Bible?

@Dr.Elaine1

10 ай бұрын

@@lamarx1271Slaves masters were in Ethiopia?

@Dr.Elaine1

10 ай бұрын

It’s also awful how the family has historically been and currently is a hub for so much abuse.

The fact that her family is still hiding and covering this up is horrific. Regardless if the father and Aretha are no longer here- the family needs to air it out!!!! To protect their future kids

@eritreayamini6801

10 ай бұрын

maybe they did ..without putting it on social media

@myaalexander354

9 ай бұрын

There’s no one left to threaten “future kids.” The predator is dead. At this point, all exposing this would do is humiliate Aretha’s son. Who would want the world to know their grandfather is their father? He’s a victim too and victims deserve privacy.

@everythinglaurenlex5873

9 ай бұрын

@@myaalexander354 you have no idea WHO the predator is actually because they never confirmed it. Reread what I said. It can even be someone who was Aretha’s age… we don’t know. Victims do deserve privacy, but the community and family should know who to have their kids around and who shouldn’t be around. Especially if it was someone Aretha’s age that could still be alive

@myaalexander354

9 ай бұрын

​@@everythinglaurenlex5873 Sorry I misunderstood your comment to be in belief that the father was the predator. But you're right, if the culprit is still a threat, I agree they should be exposed. But if it was the father, I don't think they owe us that info at the expense of the son's privacy.

@alexishogan6342

9 ай бұрын

Just because it’s not public to use doesn’t mean they are hiding it

Trauma causes depression, loneliness, isolation, embarrassment it gets stored in your cells and I believe Aretha had a food addiction because of this..

@newbeginnings3603

10 ай бұрын

I do too. She supposedly was an alcoholic too. I think she traded one addiction for another. The church ruined her mental health . I believe she kept a lot of secrets out of respect for the church.

@user-lj9ms7fy1w

10 ай бұрын

Facts!

@susandoig4192

10 ай бұрын

And respect for her father

@incognitonegress3453

10 ай бұрын

N NEITHER deserved an iota of it.

@BlackCulturalPreservation2023

10 ай бұрын

Exactly

This was so common. This happened to my aunties in their childhood. Sad how men especially men viewed as men of God abuse their children and families. Glad my mother kept from my daddy’s side of the family. Also, my step dad was a well known pastor in my childhood church. Church is one of the first things I disowned once I became a mother. Church was an interesting experience for me and it wasn’t even that traumatic just didn’t line up with personal growth.

@auspiciousexhibionist

10 ай бұрын

My grandmother is messed up mentally because of things like this because her aunt and uncle were heavily apart of the church.

@SirenScorpio

10 ай бұрын

It's sad the blind coverage given to "men of the cloth" for the idea of faith... In the south (and possibly other places) it's an obvious mental stronghold and to imagine it's been ingrained for generations. I feel like ppl need a better understanding of the difference between faith and religion so they won't be manipulated.

@jessicalee3546

10 ай бұрын

As a victim myself, I can definitely speak on this. I beg you please understand. These "men" are not men of God. These men belong to Satan. For anyone who uses the word of God in such an evil way is definitely not of God. Please dig in to the scripture yourself. I promise you, you'll see that God is real and he's never left you. He's been with you through it all. He is alive. Please please read for yourself. Go in to it with all your might and he will reveal himself to you. Jesus is the only way to heaven. God bless you and keep you.

@ladyshorty6989

10 ай бұрын

​@@jessicalee3546amen 🙏 🙌 ❤

@donnapollock

10 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry to hear this sad news...

The scary thing is that Clarence is a special needs person. And it's typical for children born through incest to have particular birth defects, including his. This is terrifying. That biopic could've been a whole other movie, had it explored things people have really been wondering.

@amo2464

Ай бұрын

But the biopic was intended as a scandalous and salacious take on her life. It was a celebration of her talent, voice, music

Any time I hear stories like this it makes my stomach turn and I want to puke🤢it sickens me to my core when I hear how a father took their daughters innocence and have a child at that...My God, Im speechless I can imagine what she went through mentally. My heart hurts terribly for her and the other ladies. Its stories like these why I just cant step in a church anymore.

@Im.A.Potatoe

10 ай бұрын

It makes them feel empowered I'm guessing

@nitely2345

10 ай бұрын

It’s not Gods fault that evil men will disguise themselves as his followers and use that for evil. A lot of us were saved by the word and can attest to how it helps people everyday. It’s just sad that so many evil ones will wear the robes and carry the Bible’s and then deter others from finding God.

This is the generation that preaches to us about morals 😓.

Sexual abuse is horrifying. Do not act as if she was a willing participant with her father if that’s even the case! Let her rest in peace.

@alee111

10 ай бұрын

A child cannot be "willing" full stop. Legally or literally. Especially when they've been groomed since birth.

@malcriadamedina5358

10 ай бұрын

No one is acting like that. What sick mind do you have that you took this video to mean people thought she was willing. Children cannot consent, it's rape. She was raped.

@IsabellGreen

9 ай бұрын

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@woodymajjet2644

9 ай бұрын

Right the media is so messy can't stand em

Her childhood was so sad. It amazes me how grown people thinks it's a good idea to take advantage of young people smh. It looks like her dad was her child's father so sad.

@emilystevens6335

11 ай бұрын

i don't believe that. the real father was likely some old preacher covering up his own dirt by lieing on her father.

@CourageUnderFire87

11 ай бұрын

@@emilystevens6335 I think so too! Probably another famous preacher and Aretha’s father told her to keep quiet about it. “ Church” people

@emilystevens6335

11 ай бұрын

@@CourageUnderFire87 A child who has been molested by her father, and the family rarely are in unison supporting their father.

@akeishaharris

11 ай бұрын

He was

@millennialodyssey5956

11 ай бұрын

I think he was too. If she claimed he was the son of her second son's father she could have said that all along but she didn't. All that time she hid it and I think that supposed will was either planted there by someone else or she made it in hopes people would stop saying it was her father. As a victim myself I have talked about things happening to me but I have never disclosed who did it to me. Only a small number of people know my predators by name and they are family. It's just something I don't like disclosing to strangers. Victims deal with things their own way and I understand her not wanting to tell because of who her father was and because it was her father.

Who wouldn't wanna be known as Aretha Franklin's baby daddy. My point is if it was really that "boy" from school he would have came out by now I mean🤷‍♀️

@TeKeyaKrystal

10 ай бұрын

this is a very good point

@incognitonegress3453

10 ай бұрын

The ONLY logical point

@JaeLshae30

10 ай бұрын

Exactly

They offered Damon Wayans the part of CL Franklin in ‘Respect’. He turned it down because it is implied that he raped his daughter. He didn’t want to play a pedo, and I understand. He told Marlon about the part of Aretha’s husband, and Marlon accepted that part.

That's Way She Was So Messed Up Mentally & Physically.

@MeMe-hu8wx

11 ай бұрын

why she neglected her health and had her boobs look so broken down and hardly wore a bra?

@genevaj6469

11 ай бұрын

She did not smile much Seemed said

@Tracy1753

10 ай бұрын

How was she messed up mentally?

In the respect movie, the first scene was of her father creeping into her bedroom waking her up. Of course, it was so she could come downstairs and entertain the guests, but it was a subtle hint.

@sweetreny1155

11 ай бұрын

In my opinion no it wasn't a subtle hint I don't believe he had nothing to do with her pregnancy. I do believe it was one of of the younger guest that came over to his party he thrown that night.

@IamLaniya

11 ай бұрын

@@sweetreny1155Have you watched both films and looked at any of her interviews? So many tell, tell signs. If her first son was from some random guest at a party WHY keep his identity a secret? It doesn’t make sense. She reveals ALL of her other sons dads but not the first one? Then has all of his birth information sealed? Come on now, you have to be smarter than that.

@Yepyep341

10 ай бұрын

@@IamLaniyastill no proof it’s her fathers so let it go

@jaistylzhairsalon7783

10 ай бұрын

@@IamLaniyaI agree with you. It’s always been suspicious, however when I saw her oldest son at the funeral, he just seemed a little OFF & it sealed the deal for me!

@l.d.9164

10 ай бұрын

@@IamLaniyaFACT! I only watched the movie wit Jennifer Hudson, but you can tell how the Father was acting whenever another man of her interest came around. It’s sad & we have to stop sweeping things under the rug, because it PROTECTS the Abuser‼️

He was sick...only demons do this...he should have been run out of town. Where was her mother? Who could just let this happen nasty..

@RuthLessGemini

11 ай бұрын

He was ran outta Tennessee!

@handbagmammi

11 ай бұрын

The devil comes in many forms.

@bdjordan7879

11 ай бұрын

Her mother died when she was ten.

@jamicamonroe

10 ай бұрын

He ran the mother off and she later died

@TeKeyaKrystal

10 ай бұрын

@@bdjordan7879goodness gracious . what a rough childhood.. your mother dies when you're 10 , then you're raped into becoming a mother when you're 12.. Lord have mercy on Aretha's soul

Aretha's Oldest son CLARENCE has severe mental issues, maybe mildly retarded. THATS the smoking gun for me! His Mother is his half sister and his daddy is his father and grandfather! Ladt I heard he's been in a "home" for mentally disabled adults for years. And she left money for his care!

@christinalovett3472

11 ай бұрын

😮

@OHoneyPot

11 ай бұрын

This!!

@Shaylaset

11 ай бұрын

I was wondering this , wow that’s crazy

@CourageUnderFire87

11 ай бұрын

Or maybe it was another family member uncle or cousin?!!

@radioog6945

11 ай бұрын

Omfg

I suspect that with in the family they know who is the father of her eldest son. I also believe that's the reason her mother left the home for good.

@IamLaniya

11 ай бұрын

Basically abandoning her girls and leaving them with a predator.

@traveonsmith256

11 ай бұрын

​@@IamLaniya she wanted to take them he wouldn't let her

@rayedel1975

11 ай бұрын

Aretha's mother was already deceased when Aretha became pregnant.

@rayedel1975

11 ай бұрын

@@IamLaniya no. Barbara was already deceased.

@JaeLshae30

10 ай бұрын

@@rayedel1975yea but he could’ve been abusing her before she finally got pregnant

If this story is true, Aretha should not be judged. A young teenager who has an overbearing and prominent father has course of resistance That woman was talented but had a hard life. Let her rest in peace.

This is why you cannot trust these church pastors. If they're not sleeping with their congregation, they're fleecing them of every penny.

@Yepyep341

10 ай бұрын

U better not trust people period tf

@lynntaitt-kj8lc

10 ай бұрын

@@Yepyep341 Preachers are PIMPS of the cloth. It's a good racket for a low-life black man. He gets to get the money, and the p****.

@ReturnJaguar

9 ай бұрын

They becoming pastors & bishops like getting high school diploma r GED

My father molested me when i was young. I dont know the exact age it started, or how long it went on, but as an innocent child I stopped it. Now as a grown woman I have to get therapy

@nogoofystv

9 ай бұрын

You pulled them pantys down to the ground and gave daddy that 🐈

@ctcocoa

9 ай бұрын

Im so sorry you went through this !!!! Please get therapy && learn you were a precious baby who did not deserve that ❤ Sending so much love hugs and kisses

@kdmurray3999

9 ай бұрын

@@nogoofystvyou need help.

@leebutler2228

9 ай бұрын

@@nogoofystvMAN WTF WRONG WITH YOU BRO SHE WAS RAPED AS A CHILD BRO

@tamekastrickland9743

8 ай бұрын

​@@nogoofystvThat's just low down and pathetic for you to say.🤡

This is more normalized than we realize. I hope she found peace in her latter days. 😞

@iBOXRIVER

10 ай бұрын

No not normal. Not even common. Just weird

@Naiki29

10 ай бұрын

@@iBOXRIVER IN FACT IT IS COMMON. DO YOUR RESEARCH ON CHILDHOOD TRUMA AND ABUSE. YES IT IS WEIRD. BUT FOR THE OLDER GENERATION THIS IS REALLY COMMON. IDK MAYBE YOU HAVENT BEEN THROUGH NOTHING OR ASKED YOUR PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS QUESTIONS.

@iBOXRIVER

10 ай бұрын

@@Naiki29 It is NOT common. Especially when taking into account RATIO, in regards to the 7 billion human beings that exist. If this type of thing is normal to YOU or your family. Then speak for yourself and not the rest of humanity👋🏾

I did know Aretha personally. I was not close to her, but I also knew some of her family as well as some, who were very close to her. I like to believe she trusted me on one level or another. And so, whatever the true parental facts concerning her sons, I think it hurt her when ppl speculated and whispered behind her back. I felt bad for her. If just some of these things actually occurred, losing her mother at such an early age. Having to be on front street as a young star even in the church world. Having her weight issues most of her life and finally living with an illness that ultimately took her life (and lemme also say that this Queen went out on stage in front of thousands of people although her body was feeble and visibly frail), I loved her so...When horrible things happen to ppl (even celebrities) it's not cool to pounce, kee-kee, poke fun and point fingers at them, right? Show a little more love to others and perhaps when your time comes, more love and compassion will be there, waiting for you...

@EWFIRE65

10 ай бұрын

Well said

@sassyk471

10 ай бұрын

If you knew her personally why aren’t you saying who her son’s father is?? It would put all this gossip to rest finally

@ladyshorty6989

10 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@redvelvet9876

10 ай бұрын

Your right. We all want to know though. I would never laugh at her or judge her. She had been through alot.

@jossyj1

10 ай бұрын

@@sassyk471Not her place and not our business….

I can believe this. It’s sad but I can definitely believe this

@seanettecoaxum3269

11 ай бұрын

I can believe it why I am a living witness I was adopted everything about me change why everything about me change because my mother was 16 years old when she had me and my biological father is a uncle or a cousin crazy😢 and I don't know my father's side but I'm to still trying to find his side I found my mother's side I did ancestry I'm still searching my father out crazy😢

Terrible and heartbreaking 💔. What a strong person she must have been to survive such challenging things

She was raped by her own so called father . That's why her body looked so mature . It was also said that he raped another young girl at his church and got her pregnant . This is where most of the predators are at , in the black church .

@Kre8iviT27

11 ай бұрын

Yep. He had a baby with another 12yo girl. Just disgusting!

@faithsdollsville2662

11 ай бұрын

What about white churches? Predators are wherever humans are.

@WayneGrizzly-kx1zi

11 ай бұрын

Definitely the white churches too

@peculiarstar4261

11 ай бұрын

Oh no not just in the black church. First of all predators know no color. The devil knows no color.

@Jazzy-mt3ht

11 ай бұрын

We know that, but we're talking about how perverted and nasty a lot of black men are to women in their family and everywhere.

I picked up on that energy while just watching the movie. So I know Detroit folks knew what was going on.

Oh my goodness. I never knew she suffered such abuse at a tender age😢

@myalistjourney4742

10 ай бұрын

You still don't know. Don't be dumb enough to believe anything posted on KZread for money.

@oncetwice5942

10 ай бұрын

I didn’t know either. I just found this out today 😢.

@crystalharris-thomas1939

9 ай бұрын

During this time period in the 60's when young girls had children at a young age out of wedlock, it was not uncommon for them to name their male children after their grandfather/ fathers. It was seen as a way of asking their fathers forgiveness. She endured a lot, she made mistakes just all of us do. God still forgave her and showed favor. May Ms. Franklin rest in peace.❤❤❤ May her family have peace as they grieve the death of their mom/grandmom.

This brings me back to her song A Rose is Still A Rose for some reason

I always thought that the relationship between her and her father was weird. He had other children, but always took only Aretha with him. He left the other kids with his mom while traveling

@Jazzy-mt3ht

11 ай бұрын

You have to be careful whenever parents start becoming more closer to a particular child. They start favoring and grooming that child.

@jamesgeorge5276

10 ай бұрын

That's because Aretha could sing, her voice stood out above all the other children!! He would take her all over the place and make her sing!!

@theettabell153

10 ай бұрын

Aretha learned how to play men early to get all What she wanted. He put her up front and gave Her spotlight

@DreG884

10 ай бұрын

​@@theettabell153if she learnt that was probably from the bad influences and bad parenting she received when she was a CHILD!

I've ALWAYS felt he fathered her child since I 1st heard & read about it. So despicable.

It is appalling that they would have the nerve to type that she at 12, had a child with her father‼️ it's sickening to think that a CHILD can do such a thing! If it is true, SHE had nothing to do with it!! She was a child. He was the adult. Don't get it twisted by trying to misconstrue that she had these babies because she was willing and wanted to. She was RAPED‼️‼️taken advantage of, And should not of had to go through what she had to endure in her young life‼️

@trinitricia6310

10 ай бұрын

Facts!

@kaylandry3142

10 ай бұрын

This a billion!!! Thank you.

@AngieHart67

10 ай бұрын

😢

@malcriadamedina5358

10 ай бұрын

No one is saying that, just you.

@cherylfisher5037

9 ай бұрын

I believe that Aretha Franklins father did rape her and got her pregnant at the age of 12 and then at fifteen. I think it's a damn shame that it happened to her because the adults around her should have protected her. Thereby forcing her to grow up before her time. A child being forced to carry and have children while they're still children themselves is beyond horrific. My own father tried to molest me. He didn't succeed because I prevented it from happening. But if I allowed him to - he would have raped me. He is now deceased - good riddance.

This happened to so many of my cousins and finding that out as an adult has irreparably traumatized me. The delusion, the enabling... it's all sickening. That I was never sexually abused in my family is nothing short of a blessing but it shouldn't be surprising to have remained without that abuse. It shouldn't be a common occurrence for every woman I know to have some sort of sexual trauma endured at the hands of men that they were born around and who were entrusted with their care and development. Black women never get to be black girls first. They never get to exist as children or stay in a child's place fr, and it's somehow always their fault rather than the clearly depraved and abusive men lingering, pushing the same fast nature onto young girls that they use to justify the abuse. This is why the struggle of black men takes a backseat to the struggles of black women in my mind. They do nothing but perpetuate trauma and outsource their own damn healing responsibilities. I'm over it

@Belinda-nb3pm

5 ай бұрын

Stop hating the ladies that make the babies.😢

This gives a new meaning to, "only one who could ever reach me, was the son of a preacher man".😢

A DNA test will solve the question of whom her first two sons' father or fathers are. Do not even need to exhume CL Franklin. Test the two eldest children and compare to the DNA of Aretha and if they are 'too much her son's', meaning a restricted been pool due to incest, everyone will know. Clarence looks TOO much like his 'grandfather'. Also CL was on the down low too?! This just gets worse and worse with his legacy and he had someone tamper with Barbara Digger's car? She wanted to get all of those children away from that monster! In addition, Carolyn was gay, why and how did that happen? So many questions.

@pprincess3669

10 ай бұрын

Whose Carolyn And What About Her?

@quidddaboss1061

10 ай бұрын

Aretha sister

@Yepyep341

10 ай бұрын

Where u got this information from?

There are a lot of monsters like this and these Mama’s are silent. Still today

@Jazzy-mt3ht

11 ай бұрын

I heard there are a lot of perverted mothers as well who help the father molest little girls. Some mothers have been caught sleeping with their sons. Some lesbians trying to fuck their daughters.

It's likely true: 1) Aretha named all her sons after their fathers. Her first son is named "Clarence"; 2) Aretha's first child looks like her father; 3) her first child has disability issues that are common with incest; 4) It's known that C.L. Franklin impregnated a 12-yr-old child in his congregation. Aretha was exactly the same age when she had her son "Clarence". It's just terrible. It's truly amazing that Aretha accomplished all she did in her life.

That’s really really nasty. 🤢

@sanplusthree

11 ай бұрын

Yes 😢

@Tracy1753

10 ай бұрын

He had an addiction.

this should be an example of how trauma, abuse etc does not have to break you. this little girl grew on to be great..

Disgusting behavior… the HYPOCRISY of ‘some’ leaders yesterday and today.

This is true; being from Detroit now living in Charlotte,NC...I do remember stories about this. I lived down the street from their church on Linwood ave on the west side of the Detroit. People don't remember that her Father and REV. J Cleveland( he is in your video ) knew each other well birds of a feather hang together ... Cleveland died of AIDS from sleeping with men and boys. Something that the Baptist Church tried to hide under the rug for years and from my knowledge this goes on at their conventions today in some places. Nice video tell the true shine light on the wicked.

@louiedangelo3843

10 ай бұрын

Damn, some sick fuckers “a wolf in sheep’s clothing”

This happens so sad but she is in a better place now ❤

So he was a pimp, a preacher, predator, drug dealer, and messed with his child just sick🤢🤮

@Jazzy-mt3ht

11 ай бұрын

Don't forget he fucked men in the ass and was a closet homosexual.

@susanwoodsnonprofitsolutio7216

10 ай бұрын

Well, he suffered for several years in the hospital after being shot in a home burglary.

@chriscooks5437

10 ай бұрын

Dont forget murderer who tampered with his ex wife's car.

@louiedangelo3843

10 ай бұрын

That man in hell.

@Ms.FullPotential

10 ай бұрын

Exactly!!

I think CL Franklin fathered Aretha’s first child at 12 years old and that is why he is a special needs person.

@TeKeyaKrystal

10 ай бұрын

that's what i've been looking in the comments for.. i'm surprised this video didn't speak to any mental or physical disabilities that is often the result of incest reproduction in humans

@boriqua1222

10 ай бұрын

Yes, the son is under guardianship and wasn't part of the inheritance proceedings. Even looking at him, you can tell he has genetic defects.

@ava7802

10 ай бұрын

Amen, he's well taken care of thou.

@JaeLshae30

10 ай бұрын

What kind of disability?

@jacquelineseabrooks7798

9 ай бұрын

Her youngest son’s special needs could also be the result of Aretha’s body being ill-prepared for childbirth at 12 years old; hell, she was a child herself. Furthermore, despite her father’s standing in the community, health care for young Black mothers, not to mention 12 year old Black mothers, was not optimal. No matter though, it’s just a darned shame that she was impregnated and had two children before she was 15. But despite all of that and then some more, she was, is, and always will be Aretha Franklin, the Queen of Soul.

Back in the older days. Everyone was so secret. and was scared to say anything. So we will never know.

It is known in Detroit that Reverend Franklin was her 1st sons father. But it also said that he would wear womens clothing and sleep with men and was very promiscuous.

@Marinegrunt0311

11 ай бұрын

They also say he preyed on young girls

@joy2theworld488

11 ай бұрын

SAY WHAT??😳

@detroit313diiiiva9

11 ай бұрын

@@Marinegrunt0311 They sure did

@detroit313diiiiva9

11 ай бұрын

@@joy2theworld488 Yes he would put on women’s clothes and would meet the men with some of the prostitutes he was pimping out.

@Marinegrunt0311

11 ай бұрын

@@detroit313diiiiva9 313 ok I grew up in Pontiac

That's how u know God is real. U can't play with him, u see how it ended for him

I know a 5 year old child that made a claim that their dad had touched their private parts and showed them how to touch it. The mom asked the dad because before her daughter made the claim she said her daughter was complaining of irritation down there and she noticed redness but thought maybe it was bad soap giving her a harsh reaction & he denied it so she took the child to be examined and a state investigation was launched after the child told the same story to the nurses, doctor, and police. An investigation was launched and the mom said the white male investigator told her that he didn’t think the dad did it simply because he was a single dad himself & “sometimes men had to do things that women may be uncomfortable with when it involves girl children” except that the child’s dad wasn’t single & she also said he stated that they may never know because the child was too young to say what happened although she told everyone the same story and never wavered. It turns out the Mom had threatened to kill the child’s Dad multiple times after her daughter told her what he was doing so he showed the messages to the Investigator when he came to speak with him to portray the narrative that the mom had put the child up to saying something so disgusting even though the child had interviews without the mom and told authorities the same story as she did her mom. He ended up filing charges against the mom for the threats she made and she ended up going to jail & trying to fight her for custody of the child now so that she may be in his care full time. I told her that the move he made about the threats was a coverup for the things his own child had said against him to paint her as a problematic mother he used that to hide his evil doings. She should have sued the state for not doing a proper investigation because the Investigator was clearly bias being that he was a single dad. He completely ignored everything the child said to doctors, nurses, and the police. The mom is suffering heavily from deep depression, suicidal tendencies, & isolation now because no one believed her & her daughter and allowed him to paint her as a criminal for making threats towards him which I totally understood based on what the child said. Its so sad it breaks my heart what they went through and he got off scot free & yes their are men who do those kinds of disgusting acts to their children & if a child ever says they’ve been violated please believe them & don’t protect the abuser because they will only continue and have more victims.

This is so wild!! I wish they would leave kids alone, it’s so sick 🥺😔

I believe that, it was her father. Otherwise her father would have beaten it out of her to, name her baby's daddy.......

It’s 2023 and folks are wondering who is the pappy and we have DNA tests. Have the son take a test and see who his relatives are.

@andrealucas7424

11 ай бұрын

We need "Maury", lol

@apriljohnson7447

11 ай бұрын

He probably wouldn't take one

I heard that Aretha had a terrible sister girl attitude now I understand why. Her dad was a hustler just like other men that are head of the c h u r c h.

@chriscooks5437

10 ай бұрын

Her nasty attitude is legendary. Chaka, Gladys, Luther & Patti have stories about her, to name a few.

A lot of times the TRUTH isn't UNVEILED until ppl are deceased for several reasons.

This has been addressed multiple times throughout Aretha’s life. Aretha and her siblings have vehemently denied it.

@TeKeyaKrystal

10 ай бұрын

really ? maybe if they would've offered another answer folks would've stopped asking if it was their father

@mirandam5746

10 ай бұрын

What are they going to say? Yes my father f’d my sister and impregnated her.

@cressapellom4205

10 ай бұрын

@@TeKeyaKrystalI mean it would be nice to know but it’s not really any of our business.

@rustyhowe3907

9 ай бұрын

@@TeKeyaKrystal Their family doesn't owe any fans ANY explanations.

@Teebee44

5 ай бұрын

Of course they did

That’s really sad. I never knew this 😢RIP 🙏🏿 Aretha

If she named all her children after their father Then she told it on him

@Jazzy-mt3ht

11 ай бұрын

The first child has special needs so we know he comes from her father incestuous ass.

@incognitonegress3453

10 ай бұрын

💅🏽

Honestly that right there from going through my own personal pain and trauma is the reason why I don't trust pastors, preacher's, and deacons and none of those type of people in church!

I wouldn’t be surprised if he did do something so despicable. After all, he had a child with another 12 year old girl. It’s disheartening to know he was such a disgusting predator. 🤮

@louiedangelo3843

10 ай бұрын

That man in hell.

@thelovelyvalc

10 ай бұрын

​@@louiedangelo3843I hope he is

@theinsightfulvisionary0197

10 ай бұрын

He really did!!! That's really fkd up!!!

The question i have is, what black father any1 knows, wouldn't want to kill the man who impregnated their 12 year old daughter? Idk any. Why keep the daddy a mystery? Why?

@chriscooks5437

10 ай бұрын

To keep his livihood in church ministry & related businesses.

@kmoney9112

10 ай бұрын

A father who also impregnates 12 yr olds ! He impregnated a 12yr old church Member! So sexual predators don’t see the wrong in their fellow peers.

This has S.A. written all over it. Aretha was a victim of abuse all her life. She knew no different because she was conditioned to this behavior by an abuser! If someone says different, then they are just like them. This is devastating to hear this happened to her. We obviously weren’t there so it’s all speculation at this point. However Aretha was neglected her whole childhood. 😢 what a strong woman she became.

The narration had me screaming!! Thank you for reading that quote by Ray Charles. I nearly died. 😂😂😂😂

Yes, I have always thought he was the father of his daughter's son. I think that is why Aretha sang with so much painful soul. I am 79 yrs old so I have seen a lot of this sort of horrible behavior covered up!

SHE TRULY LIVED A TRAMATIC LIFE SO SAD

SO SAD I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT HAPPENING BUT I BELIVE IT HAPPENED WHAT KIND OF MAN DOES THIS TO HIS OWN CHILD HE WAS TOTALLY SICK HE WAS BY NO MAN OF GOD

Rest in peace. Icon!!❤❤

Lord Have Mercy!! I don't know what to think! I do know it was very sickening reading this!! Man!! RIP Queen of Soul!!

I was waiting for somebody to say this. When I first heard about her story, I immediately assumed her daddy was the father.

I always thought this when I found he had impregnated a 12yr old while her mother was pregnant with her. I’ve heard about men like him during that era from relatives from that era and sadly enough… It wasn’t uncommon.

Yes from the movie I suspected the way he controlled her that it was him who got her pregnant

Watching the movie with Cynthia Erivo I got an EERIE feeling that her father was the father 🤢

@handbagmammi

11 ай бұрын

I liked that movie better than the one with JHud. It wasn't because of JHUD, I just think the first one was written better

@l.d.9164

10 ай бұрын

@@handbagmammiReally? I wanna watch that 1, but I’m not tryna pay for it, lol

@SheedMack88

9 ай бұрын

@@handbagmammi I like Jhud as well but Cynthia’s Version was MUCH BETTER in my opinion story and acting wise

There were a lot of grown folks in and out of the house. Rev Franklin was very popular.

Wow wasnt ready for this.

I had heard in the early 70’s the Aretha’s father was her first born son father… this was so sickening, 2 births under the age of 15 🤱🏽🤱🏽poor Aretha 😔🥺😢

I always wondered that 🤔

Please have respect for the dead. It was HER story to share not anyone else’s. If she didn’t share it for the world no one else has the right to. This is what’s wrong with the world now no one respects each other. God help us!

Glad somebody finally telling the truth/story

This is exactly why there should be stipulations on abortions. If its rape, incest, or harmful to the mothers health, they should have abortion rights. This is so sad. And yes I too was screaming, where's the outrage for this child from the adults, even the grandmother. Aretha was determined to stay strong.

@malcriadamedina5358

10 ай бұрын

Stipulations? No bb , children should not need to disclose rape for abortion. Abortion fee for all, regardless of circumstances or ability to disclose!

@oneinamillion8769

10 ай бұрын

​@@malcriadamedina5358yes abortion rights for all... period

@imanim6901

9 ай бұрын

That’s not fair on the baby though, it’s an innocent baby who knows absolutely nothing, if you don’t want to actually raise the child at least give it to a family that can.

@JesusisKing842

9 ай бұрын

So commit murder to a baby . to justify a rape ans commit another abomination to God . As someone who did this and the trauma and demons that came with it I can assure you killing the baby and herding a young child in an abortion clinic like cattle is the wrong action to take on so many levels. Also, stop trying to hurt the children that survived from being born from rape with the demon of murder (Molech ) speaking from within you .

@Kafkaontheshore9

9 ай бұрын

@@imanim6901just imagine living your life knowing that you’re were born because your mother got rap3d. I think it’s better to not be born at all. Life it’s already difficult as it is.

So sorry that happened to her May she rest in power

I know a man who did the same with his daughter. I don’t know how she forgave him. He gave her a child as well

THIS STORY NEEDED TO BE TOLD

@cflo1023

10 ай бұрын

No it did not.

@MiriamIsrael-cn4fx

10 ай бұрын

It is only gossip now let her rest in peace. All those people that was around kept quiet, why are they speaking up now. She was a child and nobody spoke up at the time to recuse at that time. But are now jumping on the gossip bandwagon.

@heavendolll

10 ай бұрын

@@MiriamIsrael-cn4fxit was actually in the genius movie version Aretha and I believe it . Aretha son is special Needs and I think it’s because the dad had a child with his own daughter. And he got a girl pregnant when she was 12 he had kids that age

Never visited this channel but have long known of this story and agree with the hosts conclusion. Dear Host, you are hilarious with those damn "allegedly" whispers. And the "did Ray Charles just say he saw something?" Dead.

Let her rest in peace God made her strong

This way too common especially among "Christians". How could you ruin a childs innocence. Then when you grow up, they wonder why you're an alcoholic or a drug addict. Most people try to numb the pain that was inflicted on them as a child. God bless the black church.

The day of judgement will be very interesting. May God have mercy on us all.

Yeah Aretha Franklin went to a lot and I heard about this story. He got up twelve or thirteen-year-old pregnant and left her see it feels a lot of secrets that they don't talk about.

@Jazzy-mt3ht

11 ай бұрын

The same way he got young Aretha pregnant at twelve.

People kill me talking about people who has passed on she's gone home to glory let her rest u didn't bring it up when she was living n if she was who took care of the child let her rest n peace ❤ 🙏

@reginamarnae5126

11 ай бұрын

That's what I'm saying

@kaushikiespinoza4035

10 ай бұрын

Yes lady I agree real thing millions of likes here sweetheart.

@bernadettejones7597

10 ай бұрын

Nope! Keep these conversations going bc it brings awareness to this sick stuff and young boys and girls need to know and be aware for themselves and for their children so that this trauma can be dealt with and rooted out (not hidden while more people suffer in silence) And It doesn't matter that she has passed. Now that she is free, I'm sure she doesn't care that we are discussing this and IF anything she is happy that others can be helped by sharing her story bc who the hell came to her rescue when she was 12yo? They say in passing over, we finally get clarity about things we couldn't see when living in this dimension. So prayerfully, she got some clarity and has no problem with this discussion like those here who may be getting triggered bc they themselves never had the guts to deal with their trauma. Those still in darkness will prefer everyone of us stay in darkness and not discuss this. Those in light see how it can help others.

@chriscooks5437

10 ай бұрын

No, you didn't seek the info while she was alive. There were blogs about it years before she died.

This is why the man was so damaged and sold her to the other men..pervert..He had to have known who and himself..so DAMN sad the jealousy and abuse..and the hate..

When the movie of the small child pregnant I was in shock 😮 Who else had access to the child No outrage from the father about it She took the secret to the grave RIP 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️ It was not her fault

This happened a lot back in the day. Just no one talked about it.

@shalini1949

10 ай бұрын

Amen🙌🏽🙏🏽

Absolutely Horrible...Considering I was Molested by SEVERAL FAMILY MEMBERS MYSELF

@pprincess3669

10 ай бұрын

Oh My God that 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

@user-bb7pd8hj8q

10 ай бұрын

Same

I need more tea on this topic. All this info is wild!

Wow that's interesting ❤❤❤

Aretha is my favourite artist growing up I understand what her father did was wrong for me I love singing both my parents passed away my mum died of cancer at the age of 80 so my mum didn’t had a good life so I would like to say Aretha reminds me of my mum in a way and I would like to do a life story about my life story as well growing up with my parents Aretha I will miss you but you are my inspiration growing up thank you R.I.P Queen of soul

That's like asking is Diana Ross daughter Berry Gordy .Back in the day

@tinawoodard2184

10 ай бұрын

He is.

Yes, I believe Reverend CL Franklin was the father of Aretha Franklin’s first child

I swear some of the most horrifying demons on earth are in church every Sunday...

It was said that the Reverend C.L Franklin was a national black pastor. Those are the ones who are the richest and corrupt. Aretha adored her father. If, her father is the father of her son, that is a great sin by the father. Mentioned in the Bible. A lot of black pastors, have been known to have ladies of convenience in the Church. And, the pastor's wives have to know about them? The late Aretha Franklin was indeed the Queen Of Soul, and was the first woman to be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. I repeat, the very first woman..Period..Rest in peace my Lady. It's God's responsibility to fix, what was wrong in your life. He has the very last word. In any matters. It's in the Bible.

@Deonce1971

10 ай бұрын

Who cares, sit down

@patrickhenry2845

10 ай бұрын

@@Deonce1971 Its apparent that you don't care? And, I am sitting down right now.