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@francoise4308

4 жыл бұрын

Socialism Yeeeee

@silvesby

4 жыл бұрын

@@francoise4308 Ah yes, a mega-corporation and monopoly is a perfect example of socialism.

@mensch1066

4 жыл бұрын

When will supporter podcast #9 be posted here on KZread for those of us who don't use Patreon but support the channel through KZread?

@memer7987

4 жыл бұрын

You guys should branch out and create a Bitchute channel

@makinemecku5424

4 жыл бұрын

You should try joining watchnebula with other educational youtubers.

Anyone else notice how the belt things from his pants or something that go over his shoulder line up almost perfectly with the wall?

@amulyagupta441

4 жыл бұрын

I can't unsee it now

@tz4058

4 жыл бұрын

I do now.

@silvesby

4 жыл бұрын

Oh no. It looks like he's strapped to the wall.

@danbalam0218

4 жыл бұрын

First thing I noticed.

@Nikolapoleon

4 жыл бұрын

"belt things from his pants or something that go over his shoulder" Really? Do you mean suspenders?

Why does KZread demonetize history channels wtf

@BoostedPastime

4 жыл бұрын

Because they don't want us to learn what really happened. They want simple narratives not in depth explanations and huminizing mainly Germans.

@Dimetropteryx

4 жыл бұрын

@@BoostedPastime Cool story, but not true.

@brendanwoods7278

4 жыл бұрын

Yiutunes algorithms and terms of service have a hard time deciphering when something is being used for educational purposes and sometimes finds that videos containing "controversial material" (which remains as yet undefined to a large degree) are targetable for demonetization. Basically the Algorithm finds things that can be perceived as controversial, regardless of what manner they are being discussed, and demonetizes the channels that sponsor them. There is more on this from some smaller History channels such as the Armchair Historian and if you go back a few months here on the Great War, they discuss this in greater depth. I believe you can find it under something like "+100 videos demonetized" or something to that effect

@justinlabrosse8506

4 жыл бұрын

History is a strong message. The whole quote "History is written by the victor" applies more now then it ever did in society and politics because they dont want you too think that they do anything wrong. You say something people dont quite understand and next thing you know your being called a racist lol

@Spongebrain97

4 жыл бұрын

@@eurosensazion well no cuz it attacks ALL history channels

In 1970 I found a history book written in 1919. The last chapter was on the Great War. I remember this for one reason. The author stated that if the Treaty arrangements didn't solve all the problems after the war, a new war was certain.

@ildikoszolnoki1997

4 жыл бұрын

Neville Chamberlain, Nagy-Britannia miniszterelnöke 1938-ban kijelentette, hogy: „A Trianoni Szerződés eredménye Európában nem a béke, hanem egy új háború félelme”.

@maxpower3990

Жыл бұрын

While true that statement is also meaningless. Europe is the most blood soaked ground on the Earth. The Europeans nations barely needed a reason to start a war.

I find it rather funny how Ferdinand Foch's comments about how the Versailles Treaty was just a 20 year armistice is often seen as a comment on how harsh the Versailles Treaty was, when Foch though that it was too lenient on the germans.

@darthplagueis13

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe. Nevertheless he was also aware that the treaty could not warrant permanent peace because in itself it was a delayed declaration of war.

@lavrentivs9891

4 жыл бұрын

@@darthplagueis13 But he wanted a further dismantling of the german army et cetera. So using it as an argument that the Versailles treaty was too harsh is taking the quote out of context.

@vksasdgaming9472

3 жыл бұрын

It was too lenient to stop Germany from rising as great power and too harsh to calm people's minds. Failure because it was a compromise between two extremes.

@criscabrera9098

4 ай бұрын

@@vksasdgaming9472no the treaty had nothing to do with Germany rearming the allies were not willing to fight when Germany was breaking the treaty had they gotten involved when Germany was still weak they would of lost so much the allies disunity and inability to fight when at the start is what lead to another war

@thelvadam2884

2 ай бұрын

​@@criscabrera9098 The humiliation was a breeding ground for national socialists to spread their ideology and hate Especially the behavior of the French Rhineland occupation and the causing Hyper inflation pushed people into the arms of Hitler

“This is not peace. It is an armistice for 20 years” -French Marshal Ferdinand Foch on the Treaty of Versailles

@vincentwitt1810

4 жыл бұрын

ive seen this qoute everywhere for years. Crazy how he was exactly correct

@tdzida

4 жыл бұрын

Fun fact Foch thought the treaty was too lenient and that it won't stop Germany from waging another bloody war.

@shawngilliland243

4 жыл бұрын

@BHuang92 - Marshal Foch made one of the most accurate summaries of the Treaty of Versailles. Thanks for posting it!

@jackthorton10

4 жыл бұрын

A storm was slowly building, in my opinion, the second the ink dried on that treaty

@jamestang1227

4 жыл бұрын

Foch thought the treaty was too lenient on Germany and likely would have agreed with teh French president Poincaré that Germany should have been re-divided into smaller nations.

Singularity one of the most easily understood and explained presentations on the Treaty of Versailles and its broader ramifications.

"This war will be over by christmas" makes sense, at least economically.

@ludwigvanel9192

4 жыл бұрын

In the past, wars had to be funded from the king's limited coffers, but advanced financing (up to borrowing from unborn generations through inflation) meant that bankruptcy was no longer the immediate limitation it used to be.

@MarvelBoi24

2 жыл бұрын

Dhe Repar8ions R 2 Damn High

Keynes book about the versaille treaty is really intersting. He calls the great war the "european civil war" which is actually more fitting.

@youwilldie8835

4 жыл бұрын

@Harry Paul France? Austria-Hungary? The USA? Italy? Not related to queen Victoria (pretty much every minor power was though, except Serbia and Montenegro)

@Relugus

Жыл бұрын

I think if Asquith had gone to Versaile instead of Lloyd George, we might have got a better result.

@Testimony_Of_JTF

Жыл бұрын

Keynes was wrong on this tbh

90% of government expenditures towards war debt? Considering how devastated the other major European economies were as well, Germany would have had to discover and capture ElDorado to come out even.

@GlidusFlowers

4 жыл бұрын

Brian O'Neil IIRC correctly, Germany finished paying the WWI debt in 2010, so yeah, pretty much needed an El Dorado

@Nyctasia

4 жыл бұрын

@@GlidusFlowers - Given they paid pretty much nothing from 1919 - 1990 the debt is not as bad as imagined. They only restarted payments after Germany reunified, and had tried to default on the debt from the outset.

@Paciat

4 жыл бұрын

@@GlidusFlowers The smaller West Germany payed till 2010, while also paying WW I reparations. And all that while quite quickly recovering its own economy. And did El Dorado have coal and telephone poles? Cause France wanted a lot of those as reparations, so that they can actually repair the war damage.

@Nyctasia

4 жыл бұрын

@Fabian Kirchgessner - How about the deliberate desolation left behind the German armies as they retreated? Pure malice. If the terms did not suit, Germany had the option of continuing the war to a conclusion.

@Nyctasia

4 жыл бұрын

@Fabian Kirchgessner - Yes, and at Brest-Litovsk the Germans insisted Russia pay them, as well as stripping away about 33% of industrial Russia to form German puppet states. Versailles was no different. People are still fighting, we probably always will be for one reason or another, we are imperfect creatures.

You guys should make an episode about the "sister work" to this, "The political consequences of the peace" by historian Jacques Bainville. It was published in 1920, and fights Keynes on many groups. It wisely foresaw the dismantling of new eastern European states that succumbed to German or Soviet influence, etc... Bainville was mostly anti-German but it doesn't make his insight any less valid.

@TheGreatWar

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting, will have a look at that book.

@louishaumont8566

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGreatWar Would be great if you did! It doesn't receive as much attention as Keynes' work but it foresaw the annexation of Austria by a resurgent Germany, the Sudetenland crisis and a German-Soviet pact against Poland. Absolutely visionary since he was writing this in 1920. Bainville's outlook on the Versailles treaty was this: "it is too soft for what it has harsh, and too harsh for what it has soft".

@AgendaFiles

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGreatWar If you decide to continue this into the recovery of the Weimar Republic, 1924-28 "the Golden Age" as it's commonly referred to through the initial 1924 Dawes Plan, see "The Myths of Reparations" by Sally Marks and "American 'Reparations' to Germany, 1919-1933" by Stephen A. Schuker (the most comprehensive on this topic). Keynes is largely responsible for all the misconceptions of the treaty's outcome into their reparations.

@AgendaFiles

2 жыл бұрын

@@louishaumont8566 As stated by German historian Peter Fritzsche, the alleged "harshness" narrative is a "false memory" that the Germans only came to believe in after 1933, it being one of their most lasting achievements in propaganda.

@louishaumont8566

2 жыл бұрын

@@AgendaFiles Interesting, in which book did he write about this?

Great episode as always! I recommend taking a look at Kissinger's book "Diplomacy", he explains very well why Versailles was too lenient to give France safety and too severe to prevent resentment. Versailles is a difficult mix of classic European balance of power ideas and American idealism, which in the end pleased nobody.

@Nyctasia

4 жыл бұрын

The entire reparations issue was an add-on to the treaty in the first place, Britain was prepared to waive the debts she was owed from the war (having ended it a net creditor) but was herself in debt to the US, who was not prepared to waive the debts owed to her, so that meant someone had to pay, and the defeated nations that had also started the war were the inevitable choice for who to make pay.

@Nyctasia

4 жыл бұрын

@Teddles Peddles - No, Germany declared war on France and Russia. Britain was the only nation to declare war on Germany and did so because Germany refused to halt her sion of Belgium.

@MarvelBoi24

2 жыл бұрын

Dhe Repar8ions R 2 Damn High

Am I the only one who likes to see these old black and white videos so much?

Merry Christmas

What a great episode, brilliantly researched! I’ve been watching this channel since 1914-2014 and enjoyed every bit of it. The more I learn the more I understand just how catastrophic this war was. It irreparably broke the back of European-Western culture. It destroyed these great and cultured nations not just in terms of blood and treasure but it also destroyed the moral credibility of the West. What a shame!

@terraflow__bryanburdo4547

4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant episode and perfect reply!

@armedwombat6816

4 жыл бұрын

Their moral credibility? What are you talking about? The western powers were self-serving, war-mongering bigots (not to mention colossal asshats and idiots), even those who called themselves democracies. If anything, it showed their moral decay and how much of their so-called civilization was just a facade. I'm not sad they vanished. Not a 100% psyched about what replaced them, but I would not want to live in a world with a pre-WWI mindset.

@eoinh1

4 жыл бұрын

I don't agree. Most of them were uncaring colonial nations and quite undemocratic. Belgiums treatment of the Congo. Man-made famine in ireland caused by Britain killing millions.

I would like to express my gratitude to the supporters of the channel who make it all financially possible. Living on SSDI leaves me no disposable income and thus it is only through their patronage I enjoy TGW videos. A very sincere thank you to you all. Because of you I now realize WW1 didn't end in 1918 but only the Western front ceased fighting. Central and Eastern Europe would continue fighting for years to come. What a mess the Allies inherited! I'm no fan of Wilson but his role in the League of Nations was vital in giving the principle of self-determination to a continent in crisis. As bad as it was things could have turned out worse.

The only country that paid its debt without discounts or offsets in full from WWI was Australia. The debt was huge at 50% of GDP and took until 1936 to be paid. Interestingly, at the London Conference in 1953 the allied nations singled out Australia to receive nothing in German reparations, so it didn’t sign, which means that technically, Australia still has a claim on Germany from Versailles.

Count Albert Apponyi said when the great powers pronounced the death sentence of Hungary in 1920: "You dug the grave of Hungary but Hungary will be there at the funeral of all the countries who dug this grave to my country." Here we are ...

@DerDop

3 жыл бұрын

And what happened?

@xerxen100

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerDop The colonial empires collapsed, and now migration crisis , and so on...

Sad that so few people know "The Political Consequences of Peace" of Jacques Bainville. He predicted at the time the rise of a Germany relatively spared from the war and full of revenge against an exhausted France which with 40 million inhabitants is not in a position to make up against the 60 million inhabitants besides the Rhine. The Anschluss, the Sudetenland crisis, the German-Soviet pact against Poland, he had already said everything in 1920.

Thank you for all the content. These are great. The last one about the early days of the NSDAP was your best in my opinion.

Love the channel, I’ve been following it since 2016! Keep doing great work

Happy New Year! Thank for all your hard work...

All hail the commission for reparations from youtube!

@gmel3044

4 жыл бұрын

Hear! Hear!

@TheCimbrianBull

4 жыл бұрын

I second this motion!

@ottersirotten4290

4 жыл бұрын

Gott strafe KZread!

Thank you. I just discovered this channel. So much information in such a compact style. So much 'fascist' criticism and other slams are being thrown around, by people of all persuasions, that we have forgotten what The Great War was all about. Lots of parallels and so many differences. Your channel is a gift that deserves to be supported by many.

Another great in-depth video. You cover a lot of ground in a short time, but I don't think you skirt over anything. I learned a bit about John Maynard Keynes. Now I am slightly wiser. Hat's off!

Fascinated by how your suspenders and the background line up.

Keynes was a smart man and he was right about many things. Great episode as always keep it up Jesse!

@Talyrion

4 жыл бұрын

@CommandoDude One needs to look no further than Jacques Bainville to see that it's possible to foresee the events of the next decade with just as much insight (and arguably, an even more accute one) while still having a completely different take on WHY it would happen. "A treaty too harsh in its mild features, too mild in its harsh aspects" indeed.

very interesting and concise explication of the issues, events, and consequences of the T of V. Excellent narration.

wow another video only 2 days after the last one! thanks guys :)

10:04 Keynes nailed it.... That and the fact that article 231 was victors justice and simply a means to hang their debt on someone else to make up for their part in starting and prolonging the war.

@williamthebonquerer9181

Жыл бұрын

The entente didn't start the war and the central powers prolonged the war when it was clear they would lose once the Schlieffen plan failed

This page is awesome !!! Much love brother

Read the book 1927 by Bill Bryson. By 1927 the US had to deflate the interest rate we were loaning money to Germany so they could pay their debts. This started a run on money which did not end until the crash in 1929.

I've always enjoyed history, of all of the history KZread channels this is my favourite

KZread's garbage algorithms have ruined this platform. There needs to be a better alternative out there. Great video.

@shawnrileywest2826

4 жыл бұрын

Bit shoot my dude

This is nice and collective informative!

Congratulations for reaching over 1 million subscribers!

Greatest closing line yet!

If y'all would've made this video during my Junior year in high school, I would've aced my history final. Thank you nonetheless.

@TheGreatWar

4 жыл бұрын

Better late than never ;)

Thank you for your video's! Keep it up! 🙂👍

Can I say the year has been amazing and learning about 1919 is very interesting! Looking forward to 2020 and 1920!

I love you guys! Thank you for what you do in spite of the stupidity youtube insists on imposing on history! You all do God's work! Thank you again!

Germany: this is the worst peace treaty in the history of peace treaties, maybe ever

@TheArklyte

4 жыл бұрын

Laughs in Yalta... no, seriously, it gets worse every time:(

@mimile4462

4 жыл бұрын

Trianon was worse

@iminbreadbutfrench8625

4 жыл бұрын

Laughs in treaty of saint germain

@franzfred7511

4 жыл бұрын

it wasnt that bad. it was made that bad by right wing parties, for their own uprising. Do you know which peace was really bad? Than google for "the peace of brest-litowsk"....

This was a good video, it gave me something to think about.

Quality video!

Reparations from KZread!

@yetigriff

4 жыл бұрын

Reparations have been demonitzed

in 2010 Germany finished paying the reparations, after so many years

@rebecca4680

4 жыл бұрын

Alexis Escudero . But keep in mind there was quite a while in between when Germany didn’t pay its reparations. They weren’t non-stop paying out the nose ever since 1919.

@laynaTheLobster

4 жыл бұрын

@@rebecca4680 That's still quite a long time.

@darthplagueis13

4 жыл бұрын

@@rebecca4680 Probably the main reason why they are now done with it. Had they kept up payments throughout the century, who knows if they ever could've gotten their economy back on track.

@coryfice1881

4 жыл бұрын

Gee I wonder what happened between those time frames....🤔

@MrRemicas

3 жыл бұрын

Would have finished earlier if they didn't cause another world war.

Keynes sure called that one right.

@MrCmon113

4 жыл бұрын

How so? We never observed a world with his treaty. Might have been worse.

@jackkruese9929

4 жыл бұрын

Taxtro Fair point, a massive what if.... but very unlikely to have been worse

@josephahner3031

4 жыл бұрын

Of course he did. Who better to predict the results than the author of the sanctions. John Maynard Keynes wrote the section of the Versailles treaty containing the sanctions on Germany. He designed the sanctions to cripple the German economy indefinitely.

@CountArtha

4 жыл бұрын

Shame he was wrong about the Great Depression ....

@josephahner3031

4 жыл бұрын

@@CountArtha even more shame that neither he nor most economists since have learned from his mistakes.

J.M. Keynes wrote a lot about the consequences of the Treaty of Versailles. His writing about it are recommended to everyone who is interested in the history of WWI.

Studying the Treaty of Versailles, I would argue that it was pretty standard for the time. It was actually generous to Germany in some ways. It didn't split them into multiple states like Austria-Hungary, or deprive them of millions of people and massive amounts of land like Brest-Litovsk.

KZread should monetize good quality

@noxhuffinus3399

4 жыл бұрын

michael JewTube does not want us to see the truth

"The real aggressor is not he who first employs force, but he who renders the employment of force necessary". -- Birinyi, Trianon, p. 9, from Greacy, p. 150, quoted in W. E. Hall's "A Treatise on International Law", p. 110.

During the 19th Century, the Ottoman Empire was famously called "the sick man of Europe". By the 1930s, the new "sick men" were London and Paris, desperately trying to hold on to empires, long after the days of "empires" were over. All the events of the 1930s could be called "a bed they made for themselves at Versailles", and in 1939 they had to sleep in it. In 1919 there were 2 who were not invited (Germany and the new SU), and in 1939 there were 2 (note, *two,* not one) who challenged the New World Order set up at Versailles... Stalin gave Hitler a "blank cheque" to invade Poland. Hitler gave Stalin a "blank cheque" to invade Poland, the Baltic States, Finland, and Romania. And there was another world war.

Couldn't you make the video 6 seconds longer?

@adm0iii

4 жыл бұрын

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@leonidasvazouras1796

4 жыл бұрын

@@adm0iii I beleive you know that for some people the timer on the video is +/-1 second longer.

@adm0iii

4 жыл бұрын

There is one time to rule them all!

The braces episode.! With constant demonetisation should I watch ads or not, I often put myself through them for the sake of the content creators.

Man, Keynes was on to something.

I read Keynes book...what floored me at the time as a uni student studying economics was the ending....”...Our Sons will pay the price of this mistake”...or to that affect, I read it some 20 years ago (I couldn’t tell you the edition though)

Jesse parachuted in for this one, didn't even bother to unstrap from his chute.

That economic tactic reminds me of the phrase "neither a lender nor a borrower be".

Thanks

@thegreatwar Can you do a video about Boulanger(ism)?

They should've found a way to add 7 seconds of content and make this a 19:19 long video.

I have a feeling you won't have an episode dedicated to Treaty of Trianon.

Every episode is accurate...wow

hold up 2 episodes in a week? Lets GO

@TheGreatWar

4 жыл бұрын

Courtesy of KZread's unintuitive scheduling tool.

Ha! That intro: "Hi. I'm Jesse Alexander, welcome to the great war." Would the captain have received the new batch of cannon fodder in the trenches with similar words?

The great war who started a bigger war, and the end of Europe as a force.

I think the treaty of Versailles was overreaching and was a guaranteed path towards another conflict as you pointed out many foresaw a future conflict. It was a perfect backbone for a new party to build on and use as a just cause for new war on every nation that pushed the treaty on them. If you put yourself in a German shoes the idea of payback for such unfair demands was a perfect rallying call for war. Hitler took advantage of that and the strong history that Germany had that the allies very much wanted to erase like frederick the great.

@turkishbigdaddy3334

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly Keynes is one of the best economists to ever exist so his fears coming true not only proved him right for the first time in the public it also wouldn't be his last time, even after death. Even today, in my social sciences class we talk about Keynes and how his ideas helped save Europe from a deep crisis in 1967.

@justinlabrosse8506

4 жыл бұрын

@@turkishbigdaddy3334 sometimes people's ideas and knowledge about how the situation really is dont go unheard even though it is heard 50 years later and finally appreciated. It's like Edison and Tesla history paints a very different picture of what really happened to Tesla because of Edison.

@Nyctasia

4 жыл бұрын

The Germans were perfectly happy to inflict punative treaties on enemy nations, Frankfurt 1878, Bucharest 1917, Brest-Litovsk 1918 etc, so why should they have been exempt? A future was was pretty much inevitable anyhow, it is a long term European tradition to attempt a rematch as soon as you recovered from a lost war. The mistake was not enforcing the terms from the outset, if that had been done there would have been no German army to start another war.

@Nyctasia

4 жыл бұрын

@Fabian Kirchgessner - So the settlement in 1945 was somehow less punitive than Versailles? We have had no war since have we.

@varana

4 жыл бұрын

On the other hand, much of the consequences of the Treaty of Versailles for German politics were not the fault of the Allies. The German reaction to the defeat was based on illusions about the military situation at the end of the War that had very little to do with reality. Large parts of the old political and military establishment in Germany, together with dissatisfied citizens and political extremists, were all too happy to blame the defeat and the economic catastrophe on the new Republic - when in reality, it was these imperial military and political leaders who had been responsible for the War in the first place. And therefore, opposition to the Treaty was intentionally fueled and radicalised by esp. right-wing media hoping to abolish the new democracy, and never allowed to die down, because it was too useful in Germany's internal conflicts. As the "Golden Twenties" and Stresemann's efforts at starting a process of reconciliation show, the cause was not totally lost, and Germany may have come to terms with the Treaty at some point, and move on - like they did after the much more devastating losses after 1945. But that was very much torpedoed, with great effort, by the political right to damage the Republic. The role of the Treaty of Versailles in the lead-up to The Sequel was not just a result of its content but also very much a result of German domestic politics.

excellent... sorry tto hear of KZread's attitude to hiistpry surely one of the most important areas of study

Attach a Lame Guilt clause to that reparations demand. Force them to acknowledge their algorithms and other shenanigans have caused KZread to become exponentially lamer than it was five years ago.

@TheCimbrianBull

4 жыл бұрын

Also add a clause demanding Filthy Frank back! 😀

@markcantemail8018

4 жыл бұрын

Thrusta07 my Leg is Lame right now ,it hurtz to walk too much . But I do agree bring back Filthy Frank ( whoever he was ).

The reparations demanded from KZread should make those demanded of Germany in the Treaty of Versailles seem mild by comparison.

Even the French Gen. Foch stated "This is not peace. It is an armistice for 20 years"

@Tutel9528

4 жыл бұрын

İn fact he wanted to split Germany into several pieces like before 1871.

Never clicked so fast.

Your braces (suspenders) line up exactly with the object hanging on the wall behind you :-)

Heads up, your video did not come up on my sub feed. I only saw this because of the bell. I just triple checked.

Did anyone realize how the guy's suspenders ally perfectly with the wall frame?

Please make an episode of the short lived Banat Republic

Damn, Keyns made some pretty accurate claims.

yes

I wish I could support you on Patreon, I really do. But I'm strapped for cash at the moment, sorry. Please keep pumping out this great content though! It's important to preserve history.

@neilwilson5785

4 жыл бұрын

I do, so when you get rich, get it on.

@TheCimbrianBull

4 жыл бұрын

Get rich or die trying!

What would happen if the Treaty of Versailles was not agreed and signed? How would the countries who were at war that time responded and took action? If you were to rewrite the Treaty, how would you consider things? Any thoughts?

@clover4522

Жыл бұрын

I think the allies decreed that if the German delegates didn't sign the treaty, they threatened another war. Germany had no choice but to accept the treaty

@Rosa01010101

Жыл бұрын

They would have kept starving Germany with the blockade

Keynes (in this case) is pronounced "canes" not "keens".

Allied musical chairs before the war followed by economic ones, post. Nice.

Does anyone know the name of the intro?

It definitely seems like they wanted to carve up and parcel out Germany to cover the debts, but realized they had no moral license for such obliteration. They essentially forced a choice on Germany... decades of poverty and likely dissolution, or renewed conflict. Hopefully future peace treaties aren't cursed with such a lack of foresight. Hopefully we listen to the future versions of Keynes and Foch.

@adrien3019

7 ай бұрын

Do you realise that Keynes and Foch were opposed ? Foch wanted a much harder treaty, to make sure that Germany would never again be a threat.

Just wanted to not that his braces perfectly align with the background

I would say Article 231 was far too harsh on Germany: *The Allied and Associated Governments affirm and Germany accepts the responsibility of Germany and her allies for causing all the loss and damage to which the Allied and Associated Governments and their nationals have been subjected as a consequence of the war imposed upon them by the aggression of Germany and her allies.* Because regardless whether Germany was truly responsible for the the war, there is no way any country would accept those conditions without there being long-term consequences for everyone

This man is strapped to the wall

@TheCimbrianBull

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed he is. 😁

Odd that Keynes criticised Versailles as too harsh on Germany given that he was the architect of the economic sanctions in the treaty.

I think that the problem of starvation in Germany was not so much due to the blockade of foodstuffs directly but more of the use of phosphates in the explosives industry rather than as fertiliser. Of course many of those extra phosphates needed could have been made up of imports from Chile amongst other countries. I have parts of the Economic Consequences of the Peace and because of what happened later, one tends to assume that Keynes was correct. However I would argue that given the presentation of Versailles by the nationalist right as a 'diktat' (as was Brest Litovsk or the 1871 Versailles Treaty) had more to do with it and it was the subject of the lost territory which fuelled the right more.

Keynes is pronounced "KAYnes". Every economics student just heard nails on the chalkboard.

Do a video on the list of countries who did participate in WW1, but didn’t sign the Treaty of Versailles.

@amirmokrane366

3 жыл бұрын

I think the Treaty of Versailles was dedicated to Germany only

KZread must pay reparations for lost ad revenue!

I haven't watched a video in a while, what happened to Indy?

@BoostedPastime

4 жыл бұрын

I know I miss him its not the same

@herbwag6456

4 жыл бұрын

I prefer Jesse.

@TheCimbrianBull

4 жыл бұрын

"In a while"?! Now that's an understatement if there ever was one!

Should have went into the critics of the book.

Wait when is the ottoman treaty coming!

@jessealexander2695

4 жыл бұрын

Sevres, August 1920.

@juanzulu1318

4 жыл бұрын

@@jessealexander2695 well, i guess he means the comparison in face of what Turkey needed to endure, financially and in regards to territory.

Otherwise a peace agreement would have been necessary, to which everyone agrees, and not a peace dictate, which is unilaterally determined only by the victorious powers, unjustly!!!

Can I mention that Keynes is pronounced “canes”?

Damnit, I was about to go to bed. Oh well...

@itzninjacatmc5773

4 жыл бұрын

JägerLange same

@rukeyazu8669

4 жыл бұрын

Same.

@Gradius6

4 жыл бұрын

Same.

16:20 Isn’t that what he said? That people wanted vengeance and they were letting that control them?

After all the Great War didn’t give any nation a sustaining success, none of the empires survived. At last only France was able to hold on to Alsace and Lorraine. But all successors of 1918 lost their colonial empires during the next 60 years and the UK even lost Ireland. To my opinion even the USA and Russia didn’t become relatively powerful by succeeding in WW II. The Treaty of Versailles was just an Illusion and it’s not the question if it was too harsh, but if it reached the aims of the Successors. I fear it didn’t.

@howardbaxter2514

2 жыл бұрын

The Treaty, like the war, was a complete mess. It helped no one and only did harm to a plethora of countries and empires. The Great War is a fitting name for WWI, as it was the greatest mistake in modern history.