The Trade That Will Haunt the LA Clippers for Years

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Re-visiting and discussing the infamous Paul George trade and how it has set the Clippers back for years to come
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  • @frmjewduhh
    @frmjewduhh29 күн бұрын

    If SGA wins multiple championships and MVPs (which is very possible), this will go down as the biggest blunder in NBA history.

  • @TheMePercent
    @TheMePercentАй бұрын

    “Paul George over Me???” - SGA

  • @dash4800
    @dash4800Ай бұрын

    I see a trend in the NBA. New owner/GM cones in and wants to make a splash and sign huge names to try to buy a fast ring. They mortgage away their entire future, and then never come close to a ring.

  • @patrickjeffers7864

    @patrickjeffers7864

    Ай бұрын

    Yup..look at the suns smh

  • @CorePathway

    @CorePathway

    Ай бұрын

    @@patrickjeffers7864that owner still tryna gaslight everyone

  • @vulcanraven9701

    @vulcanraven9701

    29 күн бұрын

    Nets: traded their depth away and star center J. Allen for Harden who leaves team in shambles. Suns: traded depth away and ended up with the failed durant/booker/beal big 3 Clippers: traded everything for PG13. He never fit w/kawhi who is made of glass The only team who got away with it was LAL because they bought top5 superstars who fit w/each other and veterans like rondo and danny green & still needed 6 games vs a depleted 5th seed. The lesson is that mortgaging future only works if the superstars are strong fits and they can get playoff-level veterans who are willing to take discounts to ring chase.

  • @dash4800

    @dash4800

    29 күн бұрын

    @vulcanraven9701 idk if the lakers got away with it. I think they would much rather have all those pieces than the one hollow championship a bunch of mediocre seasons and no future.

  • @vulcanraven9701

    @vulcanraven9701

    29 күн бұрын

    @@dash4800 very true

  • @QuietNDrive
    @QuietNDriveАй бұрын

    I miss when PG 13 was on the Pacers.

  • @And.One.Hoops1

    @And.One.Hoops1

    Ай бұрын

    He was amazing on that team.....their best player

  • @QuietNDrive

    @QuietNDrive

    Ай бұрын

    For sure. I’m not even a Pacers fan, but I’m glad that they’re finally finding success again with Tyrese, Myles, and Siakam.

  • @redhood9042

    @redhood9042

    Ай бұрын

    They call him "Pre Injury P"

  • @Opium64

    @Opium64

    Ай бұрын

    No lie would be a good fit to go back

  • @Opium64

    @Opium64

    Ай бұрын

    @@QuietNDriveif u think about it every 10 years indiana has a near legendary team since the 90s have a combination of players and different eras

  • @dereksupernaut
    @dereksupernautАй бұрын

    when you get a chance to get the older, less talented, more expensive player how can you say no???

  • @Kanotoa

    @Kanotoa

    28 күн бұрын

    You trade for him so you have someone to blame.

  • @joebenson528

    @joebenson528

    16 күн бұрын

    SGA was a rookie when he was traded. NOBODY projected him as a top 20 player let alone MVP candidate. He was supposed to be another Tyreke Evans.

  • @PharaohsNews
    @PharaohsNewsАй бұрын

    “Is Kawhi gonna want to stick around at that point?” Kawhi will just sit out and collect checks.

  • @mehdinaghavi685

    @mehdinaghavi685

    29 күн бұрын

    He has been doing that for five years. He is an overrated fraud.

  • @Adog00
    @Adog00Ай бұрын

    Shai is so special man. Can’t wait to see more of him

  • @jamesdemler7364
    @jamesdemler7364Ай бұрын

    "Is Kawhi gonna want to stick around at that point?" Does another team have a better point of view for him to watch the play-offs from? Clippers have even put him up in the sky box to watch play-off games. Not sure what other amenities teams have to offer him---but i am sure he will test out softer seat cushions of all teams interested.

  • @jeffreymerlino4613

    @jeffreymerlino4613

    29 күн бұрын

    we just signed him to a stupid extension and he's pretty much a walking injury at this point but i could see a team like orlando, cleveland, sacramento or some team like that wanting him in a trade. and i would be all for it.

  • @begcoins
    @begcoinsАй бұрын

    We tried to tell em when it happened but Clippers obviously didnt know what to do with SGA. It took Sam Presti to really figure out how to use SGA much like he did with the original 3.

  • @vulcanraven9701

    @vulcanraven9701

    29 күн бұрын

    i disagree. he was a rookie but was already playing quite good as the season progressed. He became a better passer in OKC but he always was going to be a good scorer

  • @PharaohsNews
    @PharaohsNewsАй бұрын

    That 2019 Thunder team actually had a lot of really good players on it. Not stars, but quality role players and young legs off the bench. I really respect Westbrook & his heart, I feel like Lakers Nation was unfair to him & it wasn’t the best spot. But man he put a really hard ceiling on a team that should’ve been much better. They lost PG, Westbrook, Jerami Grant, Markeiff Morris and only won 5 less games the next season with their 3 best players being point guards. They also won 2 more playoff games.

  • @oolongtea4013

    @oolongtea4013

    29 күн бұрын

    yeah sabonis and oladipo went to the pacers and started balling out the minute they got there. to be fair, most rookies make a leap the next year, but i wonder what that thunder team would've looked like if they had gotten more touches.

  • @sunnyrobinson2128
    @sunnyrobinson212827 күн бұрын

    I see OKC with the top pick in the next draft 👀

  • @jonnuanez7183
    @jonnuanez718327 күн бұрын

    I couldn't believe it when I saw that yesterday...SGA for Paul George? Nothing wrong with PG. But yeesh what SGA has turned into while we're witnessing Paul's decline-well, actually the whole team.

  • @luisrodriguez-mb7cc
    @luisrodriguez-mb7ccАй бұрын

    One more thing, Superteams don't work unless you have team chemistry. You can't have too many roosters and not enough chicken. If everyone feels he's the team's superstar, Who's going to get in the mud to do the dirty work for the rest of the team? There are starters, and there are second stream players, and all need to know their place in the team.

  • @manzac112

    @manzac112

    Ай бұрын

    I think that's what people forgot about the Heat and the Warriors when they were winning championships. They had big threes, but both teams also had structure from top to bottom.

  • @luisrodriguez-mb7cc

    @luisrodriguez-mb7cc

    Ай бұрын

    @@manzac112 Structure has been a great part of all winning teams.

  • @michaelahurt

    @michaelahurt

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@manzac112 They had top 3 players and good role players and good injury luck. All the superteams that failed were missing at least one of those The top many roosters was really only a problem for one team -- the 2004 Lakers -- and that pre-dated Malone and GP. The reality is lots of teams win in spite of players not accepting their role but they do it because the team is winning. Kobe and Shaq were publicly fighting with each other and won anyway. Kareem resented Magic. McHale resented Bird. KD wasn't happy in GS. Pippen hated being an underpaid second fiddle and still takes shots at MJ to this day. Kyrie demanded a trade. Ray Allen doesn't speak to half the Celtics anymore. I could go on.

  • @joebenson528

    @joebenson528

    16 күн бұрын

    ​@michaelahurt The Ray Allen one us not fitting. They cut him off because he jumped ship to the Heat to become a role player.

  • @michaelahurt

    @michaelahurt

    16 күн бұрын

    @@joebenson528 Rondo and Ray weren't getting along way before that. It was part of why he left. But yes as far as I'm aware KG and Pierce didn't have a problem with him until he left. I could have framed that more clearly

  • @FupaDoncic
    @FupaDoncicАй бұрын

    That year with CP3. He’s always at his own pace.

  • @TraJonR3D
    @TraJonR3DАй бұрын

    THANK YOU! as a THUNDER fan I will ALWAYS remember who made all of this possible🎉

  • @bowtieguy377
    @bowtieguy37727 күн бұрын

    The Thunder Front Office have done a remarkable job with the balance and chemistry of players they put out now on the Court. I think they have a bright future and that future could be right now as well.

  • @rickDArula
    @rickDArulaАй бұрын

    That 2014 Nets team was freaking hilarious! I got called a hater for saying that at the time

  • @Vreys

    @Vreys

    Ай бұрын

    Lol, I was there too. What a time.

  • @blueredlover1060
    @blueredlover1060Ай бұрын

    The initial trade looked like a fleecing in the favor of the Clippers, and now it looks like the opposite.

  • @spencerwarner9268

    @spencerwarner9268

    Ай бұрын

    Them giving up 5 first rounders and SGA for Paul George looked like them fleecing the Thunder to you? I think even in the moment it looked like a lot but people justified it because they also signed Kawhi.

  • @russellwestbrookyellingatw9381

    @russellwestbrookyellingatw9381

    Ай бұрын

    It looked like a win win trade. What the hell are you supposed to get for Paul George cause they clearly got more than enough.

  • @4ktkaram395

    @4ktkaram395

    Ай бұрын

    People who actually watch basketball never thought the clippers won the trade because we all know Paul George is a playoff dropper

  • @musikkluvelectrobanger

    @musikkluvelectrobanger

    28 күн бұрын

    @@4ktkaram395 I agree, people who actually watch basketball knew this trade wasn't good for clippers. Shai was really good as a rookie and looked very promising against GSW before he got traded.

  • @4ktkaram395

    @4ktkaram395

    28 күн бұрын

    @@musikkluvelectrobanger I never thought shai would be an MVP candidate, but you could tell he was gonna be a good player, but I was shocked at the amount of draft capital, they gave up for a guy that disappears in big moments

  • @luisrodriguez-mb7cc
    @luisrodriguez-mb7ccАй бұрын

    Winning franchises in professional sports have two things in common: 1. They rarely make bad to horrible trades, meaning they always the exact players they need to win 2. They always end up with useful draft picks who end up as the hearts and souls of those franchises. Losing franchises do exactly the opposite, and their fans start to wonder why they never win. Bad front office management and bad ownership usually end up in losing franchises. Winning teams? The opposite

  • @manzac112

    @manzac112

    Ай бұрын

    Steve Balmer cares about the Clippers and is a good owner. The problem was they spent too much and got unlucky.

  • @michaelahurt

    @michaelahurt

    Ай бұрын

    OKC had them over a barrel since Kawhi wasn't going to sign without PG. And even still 4-5 firsts for Kawhi -- who was considered the best player on the planet -- and 3-4 for PG -- who had just finished third in MVP voting -- wasn't too high a price. (And that's really how you need to think about it because signing Kawhi and keeping SGA was not an option. Not that anyone thought SGA would ever be better than PG) If anything considering what teams paid for Gobert and Dejounte Murray shortly thereafter it was a steal. Sometimes you just get unlucky. That's life and that's sports. Hell Minnesota made a horrible trade for Gobert and needed like 5 different things to go exactly right to get here and now they are winning. It's all luck. San Antonio is a "winning" franchise because of f**king lottery balls. GS is a "winning" franchise because Draymond Green randomly turned out to be the perfect guy to play with Steph Curry, who himself was a lucky pick because he should have been drafted at 6. Detroit traded Grant Hill and asked for John Amaechi but Orlando insisted on Ben Wallace; then the same GM drafted Darko over Wade or Bosh. Chicago was a "winning" franchise because Portland took Sam Bowie. Denver drafted a 3 time MVP in the second round. Luck. Luck. Luck. Luck. Luck. Luck. It's all random. There are well run and poorly run teams but 90% if it is luck. Getting the right pick in the right year, being in the right place at the right time, and acquiring a guy who changes your luck.

  • @luisrodriguez-mb7cc

    @luisrodriguez-mb7cc

    Ай бұрын

    @@michaelahurt Excuse me? Unlucky? That's your excuse for teams not winning championships? Once, unlucky, twice, maybe, three times or more is pattern. So if you read you correctly then , Celtics and Lakers were lucky? Come on dude, get real

  • @TheQuintessentialBM

    @TheQuintessentialBM

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@michaelahurt It was a very bad trade because of PG13's playoff history. First and second round exits in which he played mediocre. The Clips gave away too much. I say this as an OKC fan. They should have sent only the picks and told OKC to walk if that wasn't enough. I say the same if some team wants us to trade our core players for one single player... for example, the Jazz wanted JDub and a ridiculous amount of picks for Lauri Markanen.... GTFOH!!!!

  • @michaelahurt

    @michaelahurt

    Ай бұрын

    @@luisrodriguez-mb7cc Considering 10 superstars account for 33 of the 43 titles since 1980, well, yes. If you weren't lucky enough to have one (or two) of those ten -- and aren't the Pistons -- you probably don't have a championship. Certainly bad owners and bad executives exist who make short sighted trades and continually mis-evaluate players. I'm not saying David Kahn, Ernie Grunfeld, Elgin Baylor, Isiah Thomas, etc. were secretly good executives. Or at Donald Sterling, George Shinn, Robert Sarver, Ted Stepien, etc. aren't awful owners. And there are good owners and good GM's -- Jerry Buss, Red Auerbach, Pat Riley -- but they are further and fewer between than we pretend. (Although good coaches are definitely a thing.) It's hard to argue with Auerbach who hand picked Russell and Bird -- trading to get Russ and drafting Bird a year early -- or that Jerry Buss was instrumental in making the Lakers the Lakers which led to Shaq, Kobe, LeBron and AD. And how Riley developed Spo and created Heat Culture. But I mean the Lakers dynasty was based on the then New Orleans Jazz signing an aging Gail Goodrich and then the league _post facto_ giving LA multiple draft choices as compensation -- part of the league's plan to kill free agency -- and then one of those draft picks turning into Magic Johnson. Oh and they had #1 pick not #2 because LA won a literal *COIN TOSS* But that is something other than luck? Seriously? The Lakers entire brand is built on something that was completely out of their control. (Of course the irony is the NBA later blocked LA from acquiring Chris Paul from the new New Orleans franchise which led to them getting Pau Gasol who helped them win two more titles.) Yes, teams are unlucky too. When Detroit gets the #1 pick in the year it's Cade not Ant or Wemby that's unlucky. The entire Markelle Fultz situation is wildly unlucky. So is Ben Simmons having a mid-career mental breakdown. So is Derrick Rose tearing everything in his knee. The KD, Harden and Irving Nets and the Kawhi-PG Clippers were both undone by injuries and a once per century global plague! How is that anything but unlucky?

  • @Orliz-dl4dq
    @Orliz-dl4dq27 күн бұрын

    SGA is Canadian! That's what makes this trade even more ironic. Clippers stalked Kawhi in Toronto. Karma at its finest!

  • @marlinesutherland5358
    @marlinesutherland5358Ай бұрын

    The Clippers are The Nets of The West so it only makes sense they trade a similar dumb trade. Im not sure which is worse. The Nets giving The Celtics Tatum & Brown or Clippers giving OKC SGA & Jalen Williams (there's still 3 more 1sts owned)

  • @And.One.Hoops1

    @And.One.Hoops1

    Ай бұрын

    Lol true

  • @stardragon1131

    @stardragon1131

    Ай бұрын

    They really are

  • @tims4502

    @tims4502

    Ай бұрын

    Hey as a Suns fan I take offense. We are just as much the Nets of the west as the Clippers are!

  • @michaelahurt

    @michaelahurt

    Ай бұрын

    It's the Nets and it's not close. We thought Kawhi was the best player in the world in 2019. People were comparing him to Michael Jordan. And PG was his Scottie. The idea you wouldn't trade the 11th pick in the 2018 draft and a bunch of firsts to pair the best player (at 28) with a top 3 MVP finisher (at 29) --- _NOT_ doing that trade would have been malpractice. Whereas KG and Pierce were 37 and 36. It isn't *REMOTELY* the same thing.

  • @vulcanraven9701

    @vulcanraven9701

    29 күн бұрын

    @@michaelahurt the people who compared kawhi to Jordan were imbeciles

  • @urbaindelva7869
    @urbaindelva7869Ай бұрын

    Can you do a video on the Miami Heat next? I think they're in a similar situation-not as problematic, but similar in certain ways.

  • @dankonishi9644
    @dankonishi9644Ай бұрын

    The trade also brought a player that just won a ring, Kawhi to the Clippers still in his prime. Clippers also made it to the WCF for the first time led by PG. Shai/Thunder hasn’t got there yet. So I wouldn’t consider this trade as bad as KG/Truth/Terry going to the Nets bad..

  • @vulcanraven9701

    @vulcanraven9701

    29 күн бұрын

    the problem is the PG trade set themselves up for failure. No draft picks, and two stars who dont even fit with each other. One of them has injury history. How else could it end?

  • @leaderboardsports
    @leaderboardsportsАй бұрын

    This is why the Bulls need to rebuild. They should have started already but that is now gone. The OKC pattern is a pattern that could be followed. Also, SGA was the first name I called during that draft when the Bulls pick came up and they selected Wendell Carter instead.

  • @manzac112

    @manzac112

    Ай бұрын

    And then they traded him the Magic, where he became a key contributor to a playoff contender.....Just damn....

  • @michaelahurt

    @michaelahurt

    Ай бұрын

    How exactly can that pattern be followed? They drafted Kevin Durant -- one of the top 15 prospects ever -- and then the best player in the world said he'd only sign with LA if they traded for PG who just so happened to be in OKC. And then they got the #2 pick in the year where the absolute perfect player for their play style was sitting. You might as well follow the pattern you won six titles with and just draft the best player ever. But you do need to rebuild. Unfortunately you're closer to where Detroit was when they started their rebuild than where OKC was in terms of assets

  • @universoullifebalance

    @universoullifebalance

    20 күн бұрын

    Da Bulls and Da Bears will always suck…

  • @ritchierich2793
    @ritchierich2793Ай бұрын

    The difference in front office, one recruits/draft players that wants to play in a functional role (or knows what the team needs and wants at the time) while the other recruits/draft basis of win Now and nothing less..

  • @Retrocollector84
    @Retrocollector8428 күн бұрын

    It looks really bad right now. These teams just throw caution to the wind and sign players who have huge red flags AKA Kawhi Leonard. Yes he was coming off a title with Toronto, but buddy was on his best behavior to get out of Canada. 😂

  • @bfns23
    @bfns23Ай бұрын

    Pg should abandon ship and do what kawhi should've done. Join the Lakers, they'll be unstoppable. If he truly wants a ring he'll join the Lakers. I said the same thing about Kyrie before he signed with Brooklyn, the smartest thing Kyrie could've done was join Bron and AD.

  • @TheSagitis
    @TheSagitisАй бұрын

    honestly it wasnt that bad, considering that you at least earned back multiple years in the playoff and 1 conference final from PG13. The big question is how to fix Kawahi

  • @jonathanjones2435

    @jonathanjones2435

    Ай бұрын

    i agree. the trade was fine. it's really been the fact that their superstar has been injured for years. what else really matters?

  • @farezjohnson508
    @farezjohnson508Ай бұрын

    The Clipps position is so crazy. All the analysts say they "must bring stars" into the new arena..but your stars are older...it's not like they have a core similar to OKC. I get that they don't have their own draft picks..but I wonder if they should trade their stars for future picks and decent players. In the meantime they can have a similar team to what they had in '18-'19 to be sort of competitive while they prepare to have new young guys come in from the draft. Do fans really want the "Big 3" in the new arena for maybe 3 years, if that long? Wondering...

  • @sharktooth7966

    @sharktooth7966

    Ай бұрын

    I would rather be stuck with a team like 18-19 clippers for the next 30 years than to have to root for PG13 for one more season. I can’t stand the fact he plays on my team.

  • @Blackfire-yo6zn
    @Blackfire-yo6znАй бұрын

    Okc has dynasty potential they could be warriors of this decade, meanwhile Clippers, let's just run it back see what happens. Will be interesting to see what clippers do after the Kawaii era comes to end.

  • @dancorn3422
    @dancorn3422Ай бұрын

    Chet is the most important piece after SGA on Thunder team !

  • @atsk3281
    @atsk3281Ай бұрын

    Well, Clippers should have won 2020 Bubble title! So, having Rivers as a head coach was same big mistake as that trade.

  • @franciscoherrera2662
    @franciscoherrera266229 күн бұрын

    Bro, nobody thought the Thunder lost the trade at that time. Clippers got clowned at that time and still are.

  • @marekboldin4386

    @marekboldin4386

    27 күн бұрын

    Clippers are a superteam who didn’t lose because of talent they loss cause of luck😂they were and still are better then any team on the west they just get fucked situations at the worst moments with injury if they’re healthy they beat ur fav team by 30💀only team who probaly could’ve competed with healthy clips is heat jus cause of Jimmy u don’t know ball

  • @Kevin-gh4vc
    @Kevin-gh4vc27 күн бұрын

    As a clippers fan I saw this stupid trade

  • @drewmeyer9679
    @drewmeyer96794 күн бұрын

    PG on OKC that first year was cold af . Top 5 player for sure. Then he became PG13^%

  • @PricefieldPunk
    @PricefieldPunkАй бұрын

    If PG joined the Lakers in free agency instead of resigning with OKC i wonder what that Laker team woulda looked like

  • @ParisPK

    @ParisPK

    Ай бұрын

    If PG did join, we weren’t gonna get AD. Glad he stayed in OKC

  • @d-HG_KOBE

    @d-HG_KOBE

    Ай бұрын

    Well we dont have to wonder if PG signs with Lakers this offseason

  • @SmokeyFox23

    @SmokeyFox23

    Ай бұрын

    Yea like bro said. If we got pg then we probably resign Lopez that offseason

  • @daveclark8337

    @daveclark8337

    14 күн бұрын

    He still would've been Wayoff P.

  • @swen1208
    @swen12084 күн бұрын

    7:15 You also forgot they have Presty who's really good at drafting.

  • @coachwalk7485
    @coachwalk7485Ай бұрын

    Could have mentioned Luka for Trae Young/Cam Reddish recent bad trade

  • @And.One.Hoops1

    @And.One.Hoops1

    Ай бұрын

    It's up there, but it would be much worse if Trae was an absolute bust

  • @michaelyoon9355

    @michaelyoon9355

    28 күн бұрын

    It's pretty hard though to judge talent when they are raw though.

  • @ChristopherStaMaria-cp6uy
    @ChristopherStaMaria-cp6uy16 күн бұрын

    i just cant see why that trade will haunt them. Okc hasn't won anything since that trade. I honestly can't see OKC winning chip in the next 5 years because of Luka, ANT and Jokic

  • @caleblaw3497
    @caleblaw34979 күн бұрын

    As a Warriors fan, I really hope we don't trade away our future for Durant or someone similar. Let Klay and Green go and rebuild. Keep Curry for role model for the youngsters

  • @hpmagazine810
    @hpmagazine81026 күн бұрын

    That wasn’t a bad trade in 19. PG was coming off the best year of his career in 2019

  • @andrewtataj497
    @andrewtataj497Ай бұрын

    ThEy ShOuLd HaVe LiStEnEd To DoC RiVeRs aNd KePt SgA!!

  • @therealwavysoles
    @therealwavysolesАй бұрын

    When the clippers first did this trade I knew it would back fire. Charlotte shouldn’t have traded the pick either

  • @pauls9011
    @pauls901120 күн бұрын

    Clippers have been cursed since they left Buffalo. Second time they have blundered. Traded first round pick to Cleveland which happened to be number one pick. Cavs drafted kyrie and helped them win in 2016. If SGA wins in OKC then Clippers are seriously cursed

  • @tonybayarea
    @tonybayarea29 күн бұрын

    So Basically the Clippers are screwed for the next 6 years/seasons until 2030. If they don't win a Championship while Kawhi Leonard is still on the team. And the Clippers are moving into a New Arena next season. Could you imagine if Kawhi is the only All-Star on the team next season. Paul George, James Harden and Russell Westbrook all walk in Free-Agency this Summer. That would be Crazy 😳.

  • @nazdalaan
    @nazdalaanАй бұрын

    OKC one of the best organization of all time

  • @Damianoutlaw

    @Damianoutlaw

    29 күн бұрын

    What have they won?

  • @Phoenix-pm2qr
    @Phoenix-pm2qr28 күн бұрын

    The biggest mistake wasn't getting PG, but Leonard. Always hurt, and it effects how consistent your lineups can be

  • @listo393
    @listo393Ай бұрын

    When you're listing off examples of bad trades, why'd you leave out the one you called "the worst trade in NBA history'?

  • @JTMont21
    @JTMont21Ай бұрын

    The thunder have so many picks and such a solid team that they don't need half if them

  • @hdihiiehei
    @hdihiiehei29 күн бұрын

    kwhi with sga wouldve been insane

  • @abw1317
    @abw1317Ай бұрын

    Its a bad trade but far from one of the worst. With PG they did have some form of very limited success. I dont think SGA becomes who he is without going to OKC. The Clippers arent known for making good decisions though lol

  • @JoeJTSJoe
    @JoeJTSJoeАй бұрын

    In Sam Presti we trust. Thunder up! ⚡⛈️

  • @JuanVilorio
    @JuanVilorioАй бұрын

    Sam Presti and whoever is the GM of the Tampa Bay Rays have made a profession of fleecing big teams

  • @CarolinaBlood704
    @CarolinaBlood704Ай бұрын

    Again: Kobe refused to play for the Hornets. Stop rewriting history.

  • @DzzO
    @DzzOАй бұрын

    This trade unbalanced the NBA. They paid the price of Kawhi and PG to OKC.

  • @KKOPPONG
    @KKOPPONG28 күн бұрын

    The PG trade needs context that people always conveniently sweep under the rug. The trade wasn’t for PG. it was for Kawhi & PG. you weren’t getting one without the other. There isn’t a single team that wouldn’t have made that trade. Look at the Cavs. They did something similar. When they got Bron they traded Wiggins for K Love…it’s the same move besides the fact that it didn’t work out well for the Clippers. Lakers too did the same to get AD and that too delivered a championship. I don’t blame the Clippers organisation. Everyone in the league was gonna make that exact same trade.

  • @brandonl2637
    @brandonl2637Ай бұрын

    Well I said that before they made the trade

  • @jdwilmoth
    @jdwilmothАй бұрын

    We are still waiting to see playoff p

  • @stardragon1131
    @stardragon1131Ай бұрын

    The irony is this trade looks terrible because of kahwi’s knees

  • @LS-pv4dh

    @LS-pv4dh

    Ай бұрын

    The irony is this yrs playoff seeding. The direction of the 2 teams.

  • @vincentbernal635
    @vincentbernal63528 күн бұрын

    Is SGA still SGA if he didn't get that one year of mentorship under CP3 in his one year with Oklahoma?

  • @idkmybffjill9682
    @idkmybffjill9682Ай бұрын

    At the time it was a known overpay rationalized by the signing of kawhi ie trade for pg you get kawhi for free. Kinda like how we know it was an overpay for Gobert even if it’s currently working out well

  • @And.One.Hoops1

    @And.One.Hoops1

    Ай бұрын

    Yep exactly, and I don't like the narrative that the Gobert trade was good deal because the Wolves are finally playing well....that was still waaay too many picks for Gobert and it will come back to bite them

  • @Chikage773
    @Chikage773Ай бұрын

    As a bulls fan, for the love of god AK do not, I repeat, DO NOT trade for any of the clippers stars let alone any other older star in the league. Twolves were built from the ground up, Okc a rebuild that went well, denver built from the ground up. Boston built from the ground up. Can we please see a youth movement in Chicago. Bruh, if we never decided to skip the movement and kept wendell, Lauri, gafford while letting them develope next to pwill, coby and ayo, we probably would've been atleast an 6th seed in the playoffs at this point. But we decided to trade our pick for Vuc, sign a 2 guard in derozan who dont play defense, and build around ball hog lavine. Can i be the Gm for just 3 years for the chicago bulls.

  • @jjleeeee
    @jjleeeeeАй бұрын

    Hindsight is 2020. Most GMs would have made this trade.

  • @Bewbscueser
    @BewbscueserАй бұрын

    When this trade was made the overwhelming consensus was "you do it every time" to which I said...why? At the time the Clippers made this trade to secure Kawhi and justified it by saying the comp was really for Kawhi and PG. I absolutely would have called Kawhis bluff. He wasn't going to the Lakers or back to Toronto. The compensation was staggering and even with Kawhi and PG there was no way that having those two was worth removing flexibility and the possibility of crippling the franchise for an entire decade. The Clippers will be playing in a state of the art arena in front of empty seats for a long time.

  • @And.One.Hoops1

    @And.One.Hoops1

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly, like why is it a situation where you HAVE to do it?

  • @listo393

    @listo393

    Ай бұрын

    Imo 2 things really hurt this trade for the clippers: 1. Presti likely knew they were in on the Kawhi sweepstakes and could milk them for more just cause of that 2. As he says in the video, PG just had an MVP/DPOY level season so just by himself was a hot commodity

  • @TheQuintessentialBM

    @TheQuintessentialBM

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@listo393 and PG wanted to leave, so 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056Ай бұрын

    Hard to fault the clippers for trading shai, nobody thought he would be this good and he wouldn’t have played enough to get this good if they hadn’t traded him

  • @And.One.Hoops1

    @And.One.Hoops1

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed, but throwing in all of those picks for one player was a mistake, even. despite PG having an incredible season

  • @alexshirley6096
    @alexshirley609628 күн бұрын

    Doc rivers was happy to get rid of SGA he’s lying when he said he was hesitant to trade him he did it in a second he would’ve done anything to get kawhi Leonard and to soothe his ego SGA for Paul George is going to be remembered as the worst trade in clippers history maybe nba history which by the clippers standards is saying something

  • @JD-xr3gi
    @JD-xr3gi27 күн бұрын

    i like PG as a dude, but I really have no idea where was his reputation coming from as a player. i know he got some great games here there, but... y'all know what i'm getting at.

  • @Native722
    @Native72212 күн бұрын

    Lawrence Frank the Clippers GM needs to be fired

  • @joeldriver-sp2rg
    @joeldriver-sp2rg29 күн бұрын

    SGA will bring OKC a championship within the next 3-4 years and that could very well come right now with the way they're playing. Sam Presti, the GM for the Thunder, will go down in history for arguably the stupidest trade ever made in the NBA giving away Harden who was an MVP level player. That trade cost OKC a dynasty. They would have gone on to win multiple championships and the Warriors dynasty never would have happened. Outside of that debacle though has been absolutely excellent and looks like he will redeem himself.

  • @stump4522
    @stump4522Ай бұрын

    The issue was PG has max contract and 2 more years in OKC. PG force his way out. Sam Presti ain't going let PG walk with out something in return. Shai will never be developed as he was today if he played with Kawhi. Look at the current Clippers youth member so many miss opportunities. Bottom line PG wasn't worth that much picks and he wasn't that guy. Even if they made to WCF.

  • @sting114
    @sting114Ай бұрын

    This trade is why the days of getting a haul for an all star is over. Maybe three 1st and expiring contracts or two 1st and one young player. Four or five 1st and swaps will not happen again.

  • @And.One.Hoops1

    @And.One.Hoops1

    Ай бұрын

    Completely agree, I actually made a video on why this type of trade will never happen again, regardless of the superstar. Too risky when it comes to injuries

  • @idkmybffjill9682
    @idkmybffjill9682Ай бұрын

    Pg13 career accomplishments: when he was young he almost beat prime lebron once, never actually did tho.

  • @ballinwitac6090
    @ballinwitac609016 күн бұрын

    What is up with their swap with Houston and LA in 2025

  • @stanbennett9097
    @stanbennett9097Ай бұрын

    That’s hindsight tho bro bc at the time of the trade you was only getting kawhi if Paul came so it was really PG and Kawhi for shai 🤷🏾‍♂️ shai is a hell of a player now most definitely top 5 but at the time he was still pretty much a late lottery prospect with hella talent/potential.. idk win win for both squads

  • @And.One.Hoops1

    @And.One.Hoops1

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed, but it wasn't just for Shai.....5 first round picks and two pick swaps to go with it

  • @Kevin-gh4vc

    @Kevin-gh4vc

    27 күн бұрын

    He was a hell of a player in the clippers but guess not good enough

  • @drexlspivey3047
    @drexlspivey304718 күн бұрын

    No haunting. It's what they do. They just be clipping.

  • @spencerwarner9268
    @spencerwarner9268Ай бұрын

    As a Thunder fan I will forever love the Clippers for taking PG (who didn’t want to be here), in exchange for Shai and J-Dub.

  • @NikoStark1
    @NikoStark1Ай бұрын

    You gonna have to make one how the Timberwolves trade actually worked out. And how WE were all wrong 😂. We all called it worst trade in decades. Crazy they are winning even without Gobert.

  • @manzac112

    @manzac112

    Ай бұрын

    Having better chemistry, great defensive coaching, and most of your players progressing perfectly will do that to a team.

  • @And.One.Hoops1

    @And.One.Hoops1

    Ай бұрын

    I did make a video on how I was wrong about the Wolves, but I still think that was a horrible trade and won't pay off in the long run when you consider how many picks they shipped out for a player over 30 that isn't a superstar

  • @NikoStark1

    @NikoStark1

    Ай бұрын

    @@And.One.Hoops1 I must’ve missed it. We were all saying that too lol. But you know what, I would rather do that than trade for Vooch. At least Gobert plays defense. Vooch doesn’t play defense and has lost his offense. And Wolfs are close to a chip. We can’t say that.

  • @Sense71
    @Sense71Ай бұрын

    Don't forget the Lakers, they got rid of their future core and future picks for Anthony glass Davis and now they can only sign mediocre players with 1 yr contracts or rookies

  • @cooper2132

    @cooper2132

    29 күн бұрын

    they won a ring though. you rather get 1 ring in 10 years than be like the clippers and have 0 rings in 60 years

  • @Wonkzzilla
    @WonkzzillaАй бұрын

    OKC has 15 picks & swaps! Most in the NBA.

  • @lewis20002000
    @lewis20002000Ай бұрын

    Call it the Kawhi gamble, and I have to say, at the time, I would of been that gamble.

  • @nazdalaan
    @nazdalaanАй бұрын

    So they lost SGA for PG13..omg bro

  • @Brian-co1nr
    @Brian-co1nrАй бұрын

    Ballmer could’ve had shai opening up his new building. New threads new logos new everything and a promising future now they still got no banner and time is ticking kawhi and pg getting old 😭

  • @justmytwocentsdontgetmad
    @justmytwocentsdontgetmadАй бұрын

    I can't really say trading Shai is a bad trade for the Clippers. It's just that with the Clippers roster at that time, Shai would not have grown to be the superstar he is today if he stayed in LA. What's really disturbing is how many 1st round picks the Clippers threw away to get Pandemic P 🤦‍♂

  • @stump4522

    @stump4522

    Ай бұрын

    The issue was PG has a huge baggage with OKC. Max with 2 years left. Sam Presti isn't going to let PG walk with out something. Even if Shai stay. I doubt Doc Rivers care about development him. Shai to OKC was best for him. Bottom line PG wasn't that guy. Or worth that much trade. Even if they made to WCF.

  • @justmytwocentsdontgetmad

    @justmytwocentsdontgetmad

    Ай бұрын

    @@stump4522 I've always known PG was never going to be "the guy" since back in his Pacers days. It won't matter what team he's in, he just doesn't blend well anywhere.

  • @diamondkev1
    @diamondkev1Ай бұрын

    No! I knew that was the worst trade immediately when I heard about it. Lawrence Frank is a bad GM

  • @reallee819
    @reallee81927 күн бұрын

    But take kinda long because that thunder rebuild but least shai for pg-13 yep we know won the thunder because might go western conference finals this year

  • @ianm8218
    @ianm821829 күн бұрын

    This trade is not looking good now,It’s looks like Shai will get a ring before the clippers do

  • @Gurenn83
    @Gurenn83Ай бұрын

    Balmer needs to trade his star players. Clippers are not going anywhere with those injuries.

  • @prahumac
    @prahumacАй бұрын

    All kawhi needs is to be healthy and that's a what if question?? If he is then it definitely the narrative for clipper nation becoz no body can stop him from winning the championship and that's for sure

  • @raz_van__
    @raz_van__29 күн бұрын

    you're wrong when stating that no one could have known how valuable sga would be..doc rivers knew 😂😂😂

  • @And.One.Hoops1

    @And.One.Hoops1

    29 күн бұрын

    Lol no he didn’t

  • @wolfjrjr17
    @wolfjrjr17Ай бұрын

    In my opinion, this is the worst trade ever not the Rudy trade

  • @mrot777
    @mrot777Ай бұрын

    Clippers are cursed. Hope nothing happens at their new stadium.

  • @bn9983
    @bn9983Ай бұрын

    Bucks trading Dirk for Robert Traylor

  • @zachhoff9876
    @zachhoff9876Ай бұрын

    Doc Rivers knew.

  • @LS-pv4dh

    @LS-pv4dh

    Ай бұрын

    I doubt it. He jus b chattin. Heeza meat head 4sure!!!! 😭😭😭😭

  • @cooper2132
    @cooper213229 күн бұрын

    hometown curse is real. when players play for their hometown, they usually fail like melo with knicks, griffey wih reds, so far the clppers starting lineup is made up of la born guys and they choke 24/7

  • @Joseph21459
    @Joseph2145910 күн бұрын

    Bro it's so my other favorite team clippers never healthy like they are a great team

  • @KearySneed-pe5wn
    @KearySneed-pe5wn26 күн бұрын

    It’s the clippers man what u expect

  • @CorePathway
    @CorePathwayАй бұрын

    Paying multiple 35 year olds max contracts is the best way to not win anything.

  • @nomercyinc6783
    @nomercyinc67832 күн бұрын

    neither team has gotten any closer than thever ever been either either player. okc and the clippers arent championship material. expanded playoffs doesnt bring better play to the playoffs. mediocre teams dont belong in the playoffs at all. wildcard teams dont belong in the playoffs

  • @ArmyLT09
    @ArmyLT09Ай бұрын

    Bulls still look to have a worse future than Suns and Clippers unfortunately

  • @Phoenix-pm2qr
    @Phoenix-pm2qr28 күн бұрын

    Imagine Pippen, Kemp, and Gary Payton on the same team? Jordan would never beat them. He'd be abused and locked down

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