The Town Where Wi-Fi Is Banned: The Green Bank Telescope and the Quiet Zone

Tucked away in a valley in the Allegheny Mountains in West Virginia, is this: the Green Bank Radio Telescope, the largest steerable radio telescope in the world. And there are some rather special rules for the area around it...
Thanks to Justin Richmond-Decker and Mike Holstine at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank for inviting me over and letting us film at the Telescope on one of their maintenance days! For more about the Green Bank Observatory: science.nrao.edu/facilities/gbt
Want a tour? You can! (Although you won't be allowed up the telescope!) greenbankobservatory.org/visit/
On camera, thanks to MATT GRAY: / unnamedculprit - / unnamedculprit - mattg.co.uk
And thanks to DAN W: / iamdanw
And edited by Michelle Martin: / mrsmmartin !
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  • @Stjaernljus
    @Stjaernljus7 жыл бұрын

    that radio telescope looks like it's in need of some anti-aliasing.

  • @TomScottGo

    @TomScottGo

    7 жыл бұрын

    Several times during editing, I wondered why my footage was pixellated.

  • @timk6708

    @timk6708

    7 жыл бұрын

    SandyStarchild Exactly what I thought.

  • @DerUnbekannte

    @DerUnbekannte

    7 жыл бұрын

    took me a bit to realize it wasn't shitty youtube compression

  • @Xapper0

    @Xapper0

    7 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was censored XD

  • @davidmoore1253

    @davidmoore1253

    7 жыл бұрын

    Any idea why it's built that way? Is it just cheaper?

  • @TomScottGo
    @TomScottGo7 жыл бұрын

    And no, before anyone asks, I absolutely was not allowed onto the dish itself. Nearly got sunburn from it, though, it reflects a lot of light...!

  • @TrueFireAnt

    @TrueFireAnt

    7 жыл бұрын

    Did you have suncreen on?

  • @emojo1990

    @emojo1990

    7 жыл бұрын

    yup, factor 50, cos hes british and such

  • @DanteEsGrande

    @DanteEsGrande

    7 жыл бұрын

    i love the reason "because i nearly got sunburn" not anything else, that - how terribly british you are tom! xD hahaha

  • @wnnetwork

    @wnnetwork

    7 жыл бұрын

    glad to see a new video from you tom. im decent at english but yet i didnt understand why they have this telescope. i know sound travels in waves (so the conflict with wifi signals is obvious to me) but why a telescope. listen to extra terrestial life or what? if thats the case they better built in nevada or any other desert

  • @OsamaRana

    @OsamaRana

    7 жыл бұрын

    your microphone has a wireless transmitter right? What about that?

  • @Bready_Player_Bun
    @Bready_Player_Bun6 жыл бұрын

    Alternate title: "The Green Bank Telescope and the 'Shut Up, I'm Listening For Aliens' Zone"

  • @PointB1ank
    @PointB1ank7 жыл бұрын

    A software engineer meeting up with friends? Ha! Good one.

  • @echineziplays676

    @echineziplays676

    5 жыл бұрын

    (Angry Face)

  • @jmh1189

    @jmh1189

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@echineziplays676 denial

  • @Blitterbug

    @Blitterbug

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jmh1189 ...is a river in Egypt

  • @maarten9272

    @maarten9272

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Blitterbug lemon party

  • @palmberry5576

    @palmberry5576

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ikr

  • @JohnoLapse
    @JohnoLapse7 жыл бұрын

    I love how they gave you a Red helmet.

  • @Crlarl
    @Crlarl7 жыл бұрын

    Do police use soup cans and string to communicate with each other?

  • @veegaanmyooon44

    @veegaanmyooon44

    7 жыл бұрын

    No, crime is illegal there, so they don't need the police.

  • @ROFLMAOtheNARWHAL

    @ROFLMAOtheNARWHAL

    7 жыл бұрын

    This is a town of only about 140 people. Crime is probably almost non existent. The County Sheriff is probably in charge of any law enforcement that is needed.

  • @laxpors

    @laxpors

    7 жыл бұрын

    Makes sense.

  • @freshrockpapa-e7799

    @freshrockpapa-e7799

    7 жыл бұрын

    What if the county sheriff comits a crime?

  • @thany3

    @thany3

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes, they use wired comms indeed. Not sure about soup tins though, they may have upgraded to dogfood tins.

  • @daemonCaptrix
    @daemonCaptrix7 жыл бұрын

    Why is the snowy hill behind Tom so badly pixelated?

  • @iAmTheSquidThing

    @iAmTheSquidThing

    7 жыл бұрын

    Glitch in The Matrix.

  • @MachoManShark

    @MachoManShark

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's part of the telescope.

  • @holderheck

    @holderheck

    7 жыл бұрын

    he made a video about that has to do with how videos are compressed.

  • @dogsand8292

    @dogsand8292

    7 жыл бұрын

    Flyingvoxel nolond I hope youre joking

  • @rubenmartinez6701

    @rubenmartinez6701

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's using MS-DOS compression from 1993

  • @HamburgerTime209
    @HamburgerTime2094 жыл бұрын

    "Previously, on the Adventure Zone..."

  • @magic2174

    @magic2174

    4 жыл бұрын

    scrolled down til i found an adventure zone comment

  • @Rain0T

    @Rain0T

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@magic2174 an accidental crossover of two of my favorite things of content

  • @ChrisLC43

    @ChrisLC43

    4 жыл бұрын

    DUCK! PIZZA!

  • @austinp6177

    @austinp6177

    4 жыл бұрын

    Scrolled down looking for this, thanks.

  • @maya-zh1es

    @maya-zh1es

    3 жыл бұрын

    *Amnesty theme intensifies*

  • @justinrichmond-decker9037
    @justinrichmond-decker90377 жыл бұрын

    Wow, great video Tom! That software engineer you interviewed at 2:23 seems like a pretty awesome guy. I wish I had a job like that.

  • @VeXGamingLSRP

    @VeXGamingLSRP

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sure does.

  • @davidscann

    @davidscann

    5 жыл бұрын

    hey there! did you need to skip town to just watch this video?

  • @neskey

    @neskey

    5 жыл бұрын

    How did you watch this video ? IT'S FORBIDDEN !!! YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE A PHONE

  • @slice6027

    @slice6027

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's you.

  • @huntsbychainsaw5986

    @huntsbychainsaw5986

    5 жыл бұрын

    Noooo.... no!

  • @katinjegat
    @katinjegat7 жыл бұрын

    Country road, please don't take me home. There's no wifi there.

  • @ivandebekker3468

    @ivandebekker3468

    5 жыл бұрын

    West Virginia

  • @unusedaccountdonotreply690

    @unusedaccountdonotreply690

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dammit! You took my idea!

  • @KingdaToro

    @KingdaToro

    5 жыл бұрын

    There is internet. You don't need Wi-Fi to use the internet, just use a computer connected to a router with an Ethernet cable.

  • @luv3daysgrace1

    @luv3daysgrace1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Probably healthier.

  • @johnw2026

    @johnw2026

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing there's also no AM, FM, XM or even Short Wave radio, and no TV that's not cable, right??

  • @guywithknife
    @guywithknife3 жыл бұрын

    Re: no cellphone, I went for about 6 months without a phone a few years ago and honestly, I found it kind of liberating. Once I left work, I couldn't be reached until I was at home on wifi. Meeting with friends required setting a place and time. It really wasn't a big deal at all.

  • @bryanjensen2614

    @bryanjensen2614

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do the same when I travel abroad....I don't bother putting an international SIM in my phone and if you need me you can get in touch with me at the hotel when I connect to wifi again.

  • @eccentricorbiter1390
    @eccentricorbiter13907 жыл бұрын

    "My name is Ryan Lynch, and I'm a science."

  • @JOBoarder27
    @JOBoarder277 жыл бұрын

    I actually find myself in this area quite frequently. There's a very popular ski resort named Snowshoe about 10 miles away from this observatory that I visit numerous times every winter. It's quite challenging dealing with meetups, like trying to find friends after you've split up on the slopes. Like the programmer said in this video, it's all about planning to meet at certain locations at certain times.

  • @Chase_AM

    @Chase_AM

    7 жыл бұрын

    JOBoarder27 snowshoe has decent cell signal these days

  • @lam8138

    @lam8138

    6 жыл бұрын

    Chase Marshall as long as your on top of the mountain, you can get service from a tower in the next county over

  • @macefrank3342

    @macefrank3342

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just wait until the new Timberline opens, it’s going to be amazing!

  • @andrewembry5827

    @andrewembry5827

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had the exact same experience going there several years back. I wanted to meet up with my grandparents and they got very lost multiple times, so did we. We heard that they were trying to improve the signal there.

  • @Livetoeat171

    @Livetoeat171

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, that's the way we all did things before cell phones when we had phones on the wall and message machines. It really wasn't that long ago

  • @TheThomSirveaux
    @TheThomSirveaux7 жыл бұрын

    Spark plugs cause RF interference. This is something I actually didn't know.

  • @ConditionOfMan

    @ConditionOfMan

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it's pretty neat. Spark plugs use powerful bursts of arcing electricity to ignite the fuel, casting off EM pulses. Diesel engine fuel ignition is simply from compression heating the air-fuel mixture. When the diesel engine is cold, glow plugs are used, which are just heating elements that get the fuel up to a temperature where the compression will be enough to cause combustion.

  • @KuraIthys

    @KuraIthys

    7 жыл бұрын

    That makes me wonder about the possible kinds of interference from vehicles. Would an electric car be better or worse than the spark plugs in a petrol vehicle? I mean, clearly the diesel vehicles still contain electronics... Intuitively though you would think the electric vehicle would be even worse than the petrol one... But perhaps not...

  • @terminatord4

    @terminatord4

    7 жыл бұрын

    It compress's the air, then right before TDC fuel is sprayed in...Compressing the air makes it hot so when fuel is sprayed in it causes combustion...Just to be clear...

  • @vengefulenigma

    @vengefulenigma

    7 жыл бұрын

    i'm more interested in knowing if electric cars are allowed? I'd imagine not because of the motors which would cause interferance. I guess one place where having an electric car is more harmful for the enviroment? :D

  • @funkynicco

    @funkynicco

    7 жыл бұрын

    Electric car would be better than spark plugs because the spark plugs generate high voltage arcing. An electric car still have high switching noise though from IGBT driving the electric motors, and I assume that all motors in electric cars are brushless, otherwise they will also generate high amount of arcing. It also depends what other kind of technology electric cars have, since they're primarily electric, there is a lot of systems in it that may cause interference, whilst a diesel car doesn't necessarily need much electronics/computers to run. And in a field like this radio tower is at, I'm sure they only allow certain types of diesel cars that has been measured of interference as well.

  • @TN-lw5dt
    @TN-lw5dt5 жыл бұрын

    can't believe they made TAZ Amnesty into a real thing

  • @Cortalian

    @Cortalian

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was looking for someone commenting TAZ here!

  • @coyote-bird1801

    @coyote-bird1801

    4 жыл бұрын

    T N DUCK NEWTON!

  • @gametalk821

    @gametalk821

    4 жыл бұрын

    Was here to make a comment on taz

  • @evanholt1752

    @evanholt1752

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chocolate Crow Its a nickname

  • @JMon2021
    @JMon20215 жыл бұрын

    I heard about this due to The adventure Zone Podcast, the setting is a town inside the quiet zone and the telescope features prominently in the story. Note: The adventure Zone has two primary stories, one is The Adventure Zone: Balance or TAZ:Balance and the other is TAZ: Amnesty. Both feature the people playing either DnD or in TAZ amnesty's case, monster of the week, both of which are pen and paper RPG's.

  • @Cycl_ps
    @Cycl_ps7 жыл бұрын

    Can't believe you came out to WV, wish I could have met up with you. One of the more interesting bits left out of the video was how they deal with winter conditions. They move the dish into a near-vertical "Snowplow mode" so that all the snow and ice will slide off, rather than have someone climb up and shovel 2 acres of sloped surface.

  • @asj3419

    @asj3419

    7 жыл бұрын

    They are most likely trying to avoid damaging it.

  • @Odothuigon

    @Odothuigon

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Sigma 476 Most Useful KZread Comment of the Day.

  • @woodfur00

    @woodfur00

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Odothuigon Hehe, caught you typing out that name. Don't worry, I do it too.

  • @Odothuigon

    @Odothuigon

    7 жыл бұрын

    Linked reply never works for me. Not worth searching for the answer to yet another KZread glitch.

  • @UltimateRT

    @UltimateRT

    7 жыл бұрын

    The "linked replay" is just a google+ thing now. Now we have to use @user, like in the old days.

  • @noisytim
    @noisytim7 жыл бұрын

    "The wireless genie is out of the bottle" - that's actually quite the neat quote...

  • @evanholt1752
    @evanholt17524 жыл бұрын

    “There are cities in the quiet zone” If memory serves, there’s a town called Kepler quite nearby...

  • @emilyharkness9685

    @emilyharkness9685

    3 жыл бұрын

    glad someone else made a TAZ amnesty comment.

  • @Blasted2Oblivion

    @Blasted2Oblivion

    2 жыл бұрын

    A nice little town. Bit of a monster problem now and then but it has a lovely hotel.

  • @ambroseandersonmusic

    @ambroseandersonmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes!! Glad I’m not the only Amnesty fan!

  • @KJfourIPS
    @KJfourIPS7 жыл бұрын

    I've been there, with SARA (Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers) once. Quite a place. Fun fact: the reason the GBT has block edges is that each intersection is attached to a linear actuator, this allows the scope to distort itself into different patterns. There is a lounge outside of the no-spark region, and a checker cab as well as a volvo used going inside the sparkless zone.

  • @BigBaadMark12
    @BigBaadMark127 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if someone snitched on you for having a microwave 😭😂

  • @coooooooooool1000

    @coooooooooool1000

    7 жыл бұрын

    they find out pretty quickly

  • @Djorgal

    @Djorgal

    7 жыл бұрын

    There is no need to snitch, they have detectors (that's the point even).

  • @liesdamnlies3372

    @liesdamnlies3372

    7 жыл бұрын

    "Open up! We suspect you are sheltering an illicit magnetron!"

  • @sion8

    @sion8

    7 жыл бұрын

    "A 'Megatron'? No officer there's no Megatron here." >- Confused civilian

  • @cinrose5001

    @cinrose5001

    7 жыл бұрын

    OPEN UP!! SURRENDER YOUR MICROWAVE!! WE HAVE THE HOUSE SURROUNDED!

  • @antonydandrea
    @antonydandrea7 жыл бұрын

    0:31 looks like the engineers blueprints were extremely low res when they built it

  • @yellowflagracer6822
    @yellowflagracer68227 жыл бұрын

    i used to live in the panhandle of wv and my brother was able to go there for 2 weeks learning all about the satellite and other astronomy stuff. he says it was one of the coolest things he ever did. When i went with my family to pick him up, we got a tour of the facility and it definitely was one of the greatest things i have ever seen. and that was 6 years ago.

  • @kylepatterson971

    @kylepatterson971

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did that in 2019! Best two weeks of my life

  • @gabrielgomesbrito
    @gabrielgomesbrito7 жыл бұрын

    It's actually ridiculous, the amount of reliably good content this channel puts out on a weekly basis. Great work, Tom!

  • @Tahgtahv
    @Tahgtahv7 жыл бұрын

    I noticed many of you were wearing lapel mics. Normally, this would be just be connected to a transmitter pack, and transmitted to a receiver over RF. How do these not cause issues for the dish?

  • @TomScottGo

    @TomScottGo

    7 жыл бұрын

    They're connected to a recorder in each person's pocket! (We also filmed on a maintenance day - while smaller telescopes may have been operating, the big dish was being checked over. If it was listening, we wouldn't have been allowed within a mile with our cameras!)

  • @saxplayer1216

    @saxplayer1216

    7 жыл бұрын

    That answers my question. I was trying to figure out how you were allowed to have a camera if spark plugs are banned. Are glow plugs banned also?

  • @andykrew336

    @andykrew336

    7 жыл бұрын

    Glowplugs are just resistive heaters so they don't produce much noise if any at all. As an aside, I visited the GBT a few years ago, nice place with a cool visitor center.

  • @Motorman2112

    @Motorman2112

    7 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any issues keeping the clocks in sync with independant free-running clocks in recorders and cameras, or are you typically filming in short enough segments that it doesn't really matter?

  • @charliebruce123

    @charliebruce123

    7 жыл бұрын

    Back-of-the-envelope maths here, hopefully someone in the industry can weigh in with actual experience. Crystal oscillators can pretty easily be made accurate to 10ppm - if you assume 2 frames error in audio sync at 30fps before it starts getting noticeable, that works out to about 1 hour before you have to worry about clock drift, in the worst case (1 running 10ppm fast, another 10ppm slow). Less than I was expecting - I was expecting a day or two would be fine before needing a resync.

  • @hamishwoodland7424
    @hamishwoodland74247 жыл бұрын

    Heh. They can't watch this vid.

  • @TomScottGo

    @TomScottGo

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes they can! Just only on desktop computers, inside the observatory buildings... :)

  • @hamishwoodland7424

    @hamishwoodland7424

    7 жыл бұрын

    Agh. Intermixed feeling of being awesome that the great Tom Scott noticed me or annoyance that it was just to tell me I'm wrong

  • @kngofusa3275

    @kngofusa3275

    7 жыл бұрын

    Wired connections, I assume, are still allowed

  • @orestesbastos

    @orestesbastos

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well, you know when someone tells you you're wrong you get smarter and have a chance to learn from your mistake. :D

  • @trilith7808

    @trilith7808

    7 жыл бұрын

    They have the internet, just not WiFi.

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX174 жыл бұрын

    I've been there! It was super cool. I was part of a college team using one of the smaller telescopes to measure the curve of the galaxy's disk. It was so quiet... And at night, you can actually see the Milky Way in the sky, along with so many stars you'd never see anywhere near a city! It's also super cool going into their computer rooms -- they have basically a Faraday cage airlock, where you have to go in one big shielded door, lock it, and then open the other door to get into the room, and reverse of that to get out. Without your phone, you just gotta go to a computer if you want to contact anyone!

  • @adamroquemore6410
    @adamroquemore64105 жыл бұрын

    shout-out to the adventure zone amnesty!

  • @SilverEye91
    @SilverEye917 жыл бұрын

    The structure of the dish is playing tricks with me. It makes the shadows look pixalated. Like you are in front of a giant green screen and just added in some older video game in the background.

  • @brogandaugherty-kelly1062
    @brogandaugherty-kelly10624 жыл бұрын

    love from Huntington, West Virginia..LOVE YOUR SHOW!!

  • @kcolwell24
    @kcolwell247 жыл бұрын

    I got to visit this place as a field trip with the scholars program at U Maryland! It is amazing and MASSIVE. No photos can do it justice. We were lucky enough to get to sleep over and actually use their smaller radio telescopes to look for hydrogen in the milky way! Super cool, and the people there were very friendly and informative. A lot of people also had bikes to ride around the base in so as to reduce interference.

  • @davidfehrle8561
    @davidfehrle85612 жыл бұрын

    I pass by this telescope on the way to snowshoe to go skiing every winter. It is always a head turner and very fascinating. Thanks for shedding some light on these “no signals” rumors I’ve always heard about that place.

  • @stumbling
    @stumbling7 жыл бұрын

    Dear Ryan Lynch, How do I become a member of Science?

  • @Xentra4857
    @Xentra4857 Жыл бұрын

    I love that they didn’t just tell the doghouse guy that he has to get a new one. they actually bought him one instead

  • @EagleEye_137
    @EagleEye_1377 жыл бұрын

    It is really nice to see a video about the Observatory that gives correct information! Good job! Glad you enjoyed your visit here.

  • @UsePINpadtoCompleteTransaction
    @UsePINpadtoCompleteTransaction7 жыл бұрын

    wow... this is why your channel is so great! Learning about so many things on so many levels... Thank you!!

  • @morton_slc
    @morton_slc4 жыл бұрын

    Duck Newton sends his regards.

  • @rythespyguy7718

    @rythespyguy7718

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is what I came here for

  • @geckobrain

    @geckobrain

    4 жыл бұрын

    duuuuckkkkk newtonnnnnnnnnn.....

  • @evanholt1752

    @evanholt1752

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don’t you mean WAAAAAYYYYYNNNNNEEEEE Newton

  • @tob
    @tob7 жыл бұрын

    I was honestly expecting a drone shot there 😅

  • @ConditionOfMan

    @ConditionOfMan

    7 жыл бұрын

    "This is where I would have used a big sweeping drone shot to get the dramatic picture, but remote control isn't allowed here." @ 0:37

  • @tob

    @tob

    7 жыл бұрын

    ConditionOfMan I know, it was exactly before he said that I expected it, that's why it was funny ;)

  • @buddyclem7328

    @buddyclem7328

    6 жыл бұрын

    He could have used a telescoping pole and a Go-Pro, and maybe some tape.

  • @juri14111996

    @juri14111996

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ConditionOfMan use gps.

  • @ZaHandle

    @ZaHandle

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sticks: i lived

  • @Bouche4Dag
    @Bouche4Dag7 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the cooler subjects for these videos. Glad you make these Tom, keep them coming.

  • @Koshionos1
    @Koshionos17 жыл бұрын

    Hardest part of taking calls from West Virginia, explaining to people why they can't get Wi-Fi where they are at, if they are near that telescope.

  • @SMichaelDeHart

    @SMichaelDeHart

    9 ай бұрын

    Those that live in northern Pocahontas and Southern Randolph Counties are well aware of no wifi, cellphones, ect... So I'm surprised, because it's been a No Zone for years!

  • @austinp6177
    @austinp61774 жыл бұрын

    4:21 that's not a scientist, that's Ed Chicane!

  • @emilyharkness9685

    @emilyharkness9685

    3 жыл бұрын

    that's what I thought!!

  • @JimCorrigan777
    @JimCorrigan7777 жыл бұрын

    Shows like yours and Atlas Obscura are quickly becoming my favorite channels if not just for how composed and informative they are. With great production quality as well it's like watching the Discovery Channel back when it actually inspired interest in things like this.

  • @danwalker77
    @danwalker777 жыл бұрын

    Another great concise video Tom! Love them!

  • @RMoribayashi
    @RMoribayashi7 жыл бұрын

    If they are outfitted like FCC trucks they can use the Doppler effect to get the bearing of a signal just by driving. What used to take three trucks can now be done with one. Handheld direction finders switch a scanner between a pair of antennas a couple of hundred times a second. If the antennas are not both pointed directly at the source you hear the switching as a tone. You just rotate your hand until the tone disappears and that's your direction.

  • @Shako_Lamb
    @Shako_Lamb4 жыл бұрын

    I did a science summer camp there when I was in high school! I remember that any rooms inside the main building that had computers in them also had a vault door (seen at 3:18) and copper wire mesh over the windows, along with copper flashing visible wherever there's a break between the wall and ceiling. One of my weirdest memories from there was an old barn in the middle of a field (seen at 2:04) with a sign that says "RYEDUPLAGUEROUND" above the door.

  • @InsaneFirebat
    @InsaneFirebat7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to Tom and his crew for all these informative videos.

  • @FeasableOption
    @FeasableOption Жыл бұрын

    Coolest thing I've seen or heard of in at least the last 2 decades. Thank you Mr.Scott for your "Amazing places" series. 💛

  • @questocanale
    @questocanale4 жыл бұрын

    The thing about the diesel cars being the only ones allowed is interesting... I wonder if electro-cars have a bigger/lower impact than the gasoline spark plugs... (probably more:/).

  • @vanoroce64
    @vanoroce647 жыл бұрын

    I've been there! (And yes, up the telescope, too!). Tom, did you know a few miles from the NRAO / GBT, the National Youth Science Camp program has been held every summer since 1963? I'm a big fan of your talks, I think you should check it out and consider giving a talk or directed study there!

  • @macefrank3342

    @macefrank3342

    3 жыл бұрын

    Their new campus in Davis is amazing, it used to be owned by Canaan Valley Institute but was bought by NYSF and put to use by them. It is almost completely self sufficient in their water system, when you flush the toilets the water goes through a greenhouse full of tropical plants that filter the water until it can be used to flush again!

  • @sunnycyclist

    @sunnycyclist

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got to visit Green Bank during my time at NYSC!

  • @ferncat1397
    @ferncat13977 жыл бұрын

    This is so cool! That's another place in the list of places I want to work then.... I loved the quality of your video Tom! I especially liked that you talked to a woman there; it hadn't occurred to me how important representation is before, but it was kind of reassuring to see her, since I want to go into that field when I leave college.

  • @MuckG
    @MuckG7 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I just subscribed and started watching your videos and you're already making a visit to my home state haha

  • @sarahmccabe174
    @sarahmccabe1744 жыл бұрын

    “Hello Earth Scientist! I need to borrow your corporeal hands for a minute!”

  • @davethewiz6399

    @davethewiz6399

    4 жыл бұрын

    Looking for a comment like this!

  • @th3wh1t3rabb1tt

    @th3wh1t3rabb1tt

    4 жыл бұрын

    The greatest line in the entire series

  • @geckobrain

    @geckobrain

    4 жыл бұрын

    stan minerva

  • @emilyharkness9685

    @emilyharkness9685

    3 жыл бұрын

    perfect quote

  • @ambroseandersonmusic

    @ambroseandersonmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geckobrain stan Minerva!!

  • @PhilLesh69
    @PhilLesh693 жыл бұрын

    I lived near a bunch of tv and radio towers near friendship heights in Washington dc and I could unplug my telephone, lift the receiver and hear random radio stations faintly on the ear piece via induction.

  • @radiorob7543

    @radiorob7543

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Before fiber optic technology, AM radio interference was a BIG problem on landline telephones. Edit: I reread, and see you say you unplugged the phone. In that case, it would be TV or FM frequencies. Not AM.

  • @edscoble
    @edscoble4 жыл бұрын

    subscribed because you actually have proper captioning that enable I to enjoy your video, thank you.

  • @paulaclarke3421
    @paulaclarke34217 жыл бұрын

    Wow Tom, good video! Thanks as always x

  • @K3NnY_G
    @K3NnY_G7 жыл бұрын

    The part about diesel only is pretty awesome; great stuff.

  • @cyndie26
    @cyndie267 жыл бұрын

    I believe that an interstate highway, which I believe I was on once going to Virginia Tech for a visit, passes through the Quiet Zone. Cell phones work, but cell reception is very weak. Blacksburg is located just outside the zone, but gets 3G instead of LTE.

  • @brockm4047
    @brockm40477 жыл бұрын

    Well done. I visited the observatory a few years ago.

  • @euromicelli5970
    @euromicelli59707 жыл бұрын

    There are tours available to the public, and they drive you around the dishes (that's the main radio-telescope in the facility, but not the only one). However, mere mortals don't get to be that close to the main dish. Normally, you are not even allowed to bring in a photo camera into the observatory area, let alone a video camera or a cellphone. I've been told that even a conventional film camera has enough unshielded electronics (photometer, auto-focus) to cause interference. Disposable film cameras are ok. My understanding was that microwave ovens are actually allowed in-town but they need to be well built, properly electrically shielded, and are checked periodically. Also, as I understand, the staff hunts for old diesel vehicles in good condition; modern ones have too many electronically-controlled this-and-that. AM/FM receivers and other sources of electric noise are typically removed.

  • @RandomDude647
    @RandomDude6473 жыл бұрын

    4:09 Chuck McGill should've just moved here

  • @stumbling
    @stumbling7 жыл бұрын

    0:14 Me: Wow, that mountain is really pixelated...

  • @jldisme
    @jldisme7 жыл бұрын

    Damn! I am a huge fan, Tom. I wish I had known you were coming to Green Bank! I am normally in Guatemala, but my house in the US is about 400 from the NRAO Green Bank main entrance. And I have always found it hilarious to watch visitors twitch when they have smart phone withdrawal. Wish I could have met you.

  • @nathangehman7018
    @nathangehman70182 жыл бұрын

    One of my science classes took a trip there for 3 days. It was wild. We got to use some of the smaller telescopes there at night. We had shifts and were monitoring for certain things, I forget what exactly. It was one of the coolest places I've been. I think it was actually 2 years and a week before this video was posted roughly but I may be remembering that wrong. Fun fact, at the time that we visited (idk if this is still the case), that telescope there was the biggest mobile object made. It has little wheels and can be moved around on them.

  • @Morbos1000
    @Morbos10007 жыл бұрын

    When I saw the thumbnail with all the white behind you I thought this was another video from your Arctic trip!

  • @EastyyBlogspot
    @EastyyBlogspot7 жыл бұрын

    I do wonder if anyone has given a visible representation of what the world would like if you can see radio signals

  • @dndjxnskdbajd4561

    @dndjxnskdbajd4561

    4 жыл бұрын

    Theres an app for IOS that does that

  • @Genecaster
    @Genecaster7 ай бұрын

    I am lucky enough to have seen this thing in person, it truly is completely marvelous how big this thing is. Granted that was back in about 2007 or so when IoT wasn't a thing, and I'm not sure I even had a cell phone. We visited the museum there and went around to the various telescopes in a tour bus, we got within maybe 200 yards of the big one but even from there it completely towered over anything in the surroundings.

  • @laserbub
    @laserbub7 жыл бұрын

    In WV for another story and another testament to Senator Byrd's ability to bring huge money into the state. ;-) Green Bank and NRAO are very cool. I hope you got a chance to visit the shop where they build the receivers for the dishes. Way cool machine shop work.

  • @SeptexGaming
    @SeptexGaming7 жыл бұрын

    The top of the Telescope needs some anti aliasing :p

  • @flashbaggins427
    @flashbaggins4277 жыл бұрын

    So cooooooooooooooool And the timelapse at the end was beautiful, was that matts idea or yours? :p

  • @TreydaMonke
    @TreydaMonke2 жыл бұрын

    I go skiing here it’s great and a lot people on the east coast love to go there

  • @patrickdwyer320
    @patrickdwyer3202 жыл бұрын

    there's something about Tom Scott that just works, love you buddy, keep doing what you do

  • @SteveGouldinSpain
    @SteveGouldinSpain7 жыл бұрын

    Is it a no fly zone for conventional aircraft too?

  • @zechtyler1674

    @zechtyler1674

    7 жыл бұрын

    Steve Gould I'd say probably because of the radar on the plans and the connections with the airports and because of the military base as well probably

  • @icedragon769

    @icedragon769

    7 жыл бұрын

    No, actually, it's not. Aside from the 5-mile radius around each airport in the area, where you need to check in with the controllers as you pass through, there aren't any flight controls in the radio quiet zone. I checked a couple different maps, and none of them show any flight controls at all. Maybe it's classified as a "temporary control" and it happens to not be active right now?

  • @Tahgtahv

    @Tahgtahv

    7 жыл бұрын

    My guess is that radio traffic that planes use is very consistant, and is just part of the types of interference they have to deal with and filter out. (GPS broadcasting has been mentioned as well that would fall under this).

  • @christianbro2

    @christianbro2

    6 жыл бұрын

    Planes have ads-b which transmits all the time, not just atc.

  • @ellenorbjornsdottir1166

    @ellenorbjornsdottir1166

    6 жыл бұрын

    For gasoline aircraft? Yes, unless you're gliding with magnetos OFF. For Diesel, turboprop, turboshaft, turbofan and turbojet aircraft? No, but you aren't allowed to restart a turbojet, turboprop, turbofan or turboshaft engine in the deep-quiet RQZ.

  • @Yuoaman
    @Yuoaman4 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if Tom stopped by Kepler? 🤔

  • @SirReptitious
    @SirReptitious7 жыл бұрын

    Finally! A video where I already knew about the subject you were talking about. ;-p

  • @cormacsee
    @cormacsee3 жыл бұрын

    great vids Tom !

  • @kahlilsalome29
    @kahlilsalome294 жыл бұрын

    did someone say kepler west virgina

  • @kevincgrabb
    @kevincgrabb7 жыл бұрын

    "We have to plan in advance." haha, like people did for hundreds of years. Cells are great, but they're not ESSENTIAL if you plan things. Good on him.

  • @Alittlebitinteresting
    @Alittlebitinteresting6 жыл бұрын

    Going here this year for a college trip! This is gonna be fun

  • @dshack4689
    @dshack46894 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video - was going to ask about your video camera and radio mics, but found in the comments you'd mentioned it was a maintenance day, and you had hardwired mics.

  • @jdave1157
    @jdave11577 жыл бұрын

    It would be interesting to go more in-depth into how people like Chuck Niday directionally find causes of interference. I have only done a little research but basically they have to electronically spin antennas (switching between 4 or more) like a radar dish at incredible speeds depending on the frequency they are finding.

  • @michaelpeele5739

    @michaelpeele5739

    Жыл бұрын

    3 antennas placed a known distance from each other. Then there's a tiny difference in the time when each receives the signal. That difference shows the direction and distance. you can see it at 4:34. It looks quite homemade - nearly everything there is custom made on-site as a one-of-a-kind thing.

  • @michaelt8682
    @michaelt86824 жыл бұрын

    any guy wearing a tshirt that says 'moab brewery' without irony is my kinda guy

  • @Brian_Boxtruck
    @Brian_Boxtruck7 жыл бұрын

    Great video Tom. I've not seen anyone cover this spot as deeply as you have. Usually they talk about the weirdos that live there

  • @Blasted2Oblivion

    @Blasted2Oblivion

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like the weirdos at Amnesty lodge in the nearby town of Kelpler? Don't get me wrong, they are nice people. Just a little weird.

  • @Orbis92
    @Orbis927 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. It was really informative. I knew about the quiet Zone around green Banks, but I didn´t expect the local towns to have cell phones. I didn't knew that only diesel cars where allowed in a smaller Zone or dog house heaters to send out noise. I didn't even know that something like a dog house heater exists ;)

  • @LeoMRogers
    @LeoMRogers7 жыл бұрын

    the time-lapse at the end, how long was that in real time?

  • @Tahgtahv

    @Tahgtahv

    7 жыл бұрын

    It took a lot of searching (who knew stats on this would be hard to find). In normal conditions it takes 10 minutes to make a complete rotation (36deg/min). At seriously lower temperates (well below freezing), this may be reduced to half speed or stopped completely. See section 16.4.4 of here: science.nrao.edu/facilities/gbt/facilities/gbt/observing/GBTog.pdf

  • @Skidoodle18
    @Skidoodle184 жыл бұрын

    TAZ: Amnesty gang please tell me one of you is here

  • @kungfuminifridge856

    @kungfuminifridge856

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yee

  • @elshabopants7506

    @elshabopants7506

    3 жыл бұрын

    what's that

  • @Skidoodle18

    @Skidoodle18

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elshabopants7506 It’s a real-play podcast by the McElroy family. The story eventually takes one of the main characters to the Green Bank Telescope

  • @emilyharkness9685

    @emilyharkness9685

    3 жыл бұрын

    yup!

  • @Blasted2Oblivion

    @Blasted2Oblivion

    2 жыл бұрын

    Here

  • @linelotr
    @linelotr7 жыл бұрын

    The more I watch your videos, the more I realise what an awesome job you have. Thanks for sharing!

  • @jordanmetcalf9496
    @jordanmetcalf94967 жыл бұрын

    One of the main reasons I hated driving through WV as a truck driver. Nothing but dead space. Dont miss it. Nice landscape though.

  • @kanukulgood
    @kanukulgood4 жыл бұрын

    Griffin McElroy and the adventure zone made me search this up

  • @shelvacu
    @shelvacu7 жыл бұрын

    Why is the quiet zone a square? Isn't that like, not how radio signals work? If they don't want any interference above a certain "volume", then it should be a circle, all points within a certain radius. Radio waves don't care about which ways is north or west.

  • @dkamm65

    @dkamm65

    6 жыл бұрын

    A rectangle is a whole lot easier to work with on maps that use latitude and longitude. You could tell people that use of such and such is banned in latitudes ranging from X-Y, and longitudes ranging from Z-A. Try doing that with a circle.

  • @SecretAsian27

    @SecretAsian27

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think the silent zone is a circle but it’s just easier to enforce a rectangular quiet zone

  • @DLBBALL

    @DLBBALL

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just making a square that engulfs the entire area of the would-be circle is fine.

  • @lars1588

    @lars1588

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Sassy The Sasquatch Oi- you're right.

  • @comradesky5931

    @comradesky5931

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you are on the side of a mountain, the real "necessary" shape probably isn't going to be a circle, either.

  • @logankennedy609
    @logankennedy6097 жыл бұрын

    Tom! Good to see you in my neck of the woods! :D

  • @tyttuut
    @tyttuut5 жыл бұрын

    I went to check out that observatory. It's a really incredible sight. Of course, you can't have digital cameras out there, so now I have to deal with getting the film from a disposable camera developed. If anyone's ever out in WV, it's well worth a look.

  • @johnsobery
    @johnsobery7 жыл бұрын

    Some people are actually moving into the quiet zone because of desire to be away from the radio interference.

  • @Cycl_ps

    @Cycl_ps

    7 жыл бұрын

    From the area, there are a few people who believe the radio signals cause cancer, among other things.

  • @herrmannmunster

    @herrmannmunster

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tom says it in the video, at about 04:10 ;-)

  • @SticksTheFox

    @SticksTheFox

    7 жыл бұрын

    Could be true, but then again the universe and our sun causes a lot of radio-magnetic signals too... and thats quiet a lot more powerful...

  • @herrmannmunster

    @herrmannmunster

    7 жыл бұрын

    you're right to be suspicious. Electromagnetic hypersensitivity has been proven time and again to be an imagined illness. But telling sufferers that there is an area with no radiation makes them feel better, so why not?

  • @BoomBrush

    @BoomBrush

    7 жыл бұрын

    That's like the definition of the placebo effect.

  • @DanielCrowder
    @DanielCrowder7 жыл бұрын

    Every licensed American radio amateur knows about the National Radio Quiet Zone, but they might not know about what goes on there. Thanks for the info Tom! K7IVO

  • @felixromano3091
    @felixromano30913 жыл бұрын

    I just want to ad that the guards are really nice and sometimes replace equipment for free that cause interference

  • @MrEDMeaner
    @MrEDMeaner7 жыл бұрын

    It's a really impressive structure!!

  • @God-Emperor_Elizabeth_the_2nd
    @God-Emperor_Elizabeth_the_2nd3 жыл бұрын

    People “allergic” to wifi are absolutely insane

  • @Autumn_DeeDum

    @Autumn_DeeDum

    2 жыл бұрын

    At least they now have a place to stay, and are far away from normal people.

  • @sydssolanumsamsys

    @sydssolanumsamsys

    Жыл бұрын

    they're not insane. they have a relatively minor mental illness that causes them to have reactions when they believe they "should" have one.

  • @deathlis

    @deathlis

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sydssolanumsamsys Extremely minor, in comparison to a lot of people today. Half of society is off its rocker.

  • @MsPaintMr

    @MsPaintMr

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Autumn_DeeDum Lmao, you're one to talk about "normal people"

  • @Purin1023
    @Purin10237 жыл бұрын

    At least they seem pretty nice about the whole thing if they find something interfering at your house.

  • @CS2SkinInspect
    @CS2SkinInspect3 жыл бұрын

    I just realized that you have the best channel on KZread.

  • @grubs5558
    @grubs55582 жыл бұрын

    I lived in Morgantown. Use to come down here all the time with my dad for trips alot of military activity there it's something to see. The roads are banked so they can drive at higher speeds in emergencies.

  • @jim0_o
    @jim0_o7 жыл бұрын

    4:15 well every feeling is in your head really.. now leeches those you can feel on your skin.

  • @HerodotusVon

    @HerodotusVon

    7 жыл бұрын

    Jim R. Didriksen Some emotions have physical effects on your body, so no, not all feelings are in your head

  • @Babarudra

    @Babarudra

    7 жыл бұрын

    No, any sensation or reaction your body has is because of your brain. So technically, yes, all emotions and feelings are in your brain. Some are just perceived to be in different parts of the body.