Please keep up the awesome work. Invaluable information allowing us consumers to make an educated choice. The videos you're putting out will be relevant for many, many years to come.

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Appreciate it 👍

@yep.fishing

7 ай бұрын

And also exposing deceptive companies

So many new options to try now. Very eye opening. Keep doing what you’re doing. Hopefully over time, we’ll get a great database and resource to refer to when thinking about line for specific fishing application.

Thanks for this summery and hope to see more new lines here this year

This channel is awesome. Thank you very much for this content, absolutely invaluable.

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Appreciate it 👍

Excellent! Thanks for these videos.

Thank you for all your Videos... I've change my line to Varivas ..thanks to your video.. and the result so far is good....

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

That's fantastic, glad it's been useful 👍

Great Job!!! Waiting more tests for 2024.

Amazing , just amazing. Thanks for sharing your videos to us.. Can you please make top 5 budget lines

Keep it up, beatiful work

Love your work and channel, keep it coming Could you please put out a video on the berkley whiplash 8

Great job Tim Waiting test on Varivas 8 Pe Marking I am using it and think is awesome Happy new year🎉

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Thanks again! Definitely going to try and get my hands on some. Happy New Year !

I've been ice fishing with the Power Pro Ice-Tec 8lb for 3 seasons now and can confirm it is a great ice fishing line. The jagged edges of the ice holes have not cut it yet and I have not lost a fish due to line failure.

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Good to know thank you!

Thanks for sharing the video . I enjoyed watching this. May I have recommendation which you could consider to add more criteria besides your criteria’s - same size of braided fishing line - float and sinking line must be different in your test - X8 and X12 is not same - shocking strength - absorb water - water cut strength of line - long durability Thank you

Nice movie! Tnx 👍👍

Excellent work.... Job well done

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I've been a Power Pro user for over 15 years now. I never held any delusions that it was the best braid, but it always served me well at a reasonable price. Last summer, my best friend, whom I taught to fish, went on an international fishing trip to the wilds of Ontario Canada chasing smallmouth, walleye, pike, and musky. He asked me to help him get outfitted for his trip, and one of the things he wanted to do was re-spool all the reels he was bringing, just for the peace of mind that he's got all fresh line. Naturally, I steered him toward Power Pro... He wanted 20# on one of his reels, and he had some lighter and some heavier too. Once he began fishing with the 20# line, he said he was breaking off a lot... And it wasn't breaking at his leader knot either. It got so bad that his guide began to suspect the line was faulty... They stripped some line from the reel and were able to pull it until it broke with bare hands! So they tried to do the same with some 10# power pro and they couldn't break it. When he came home, we tried the same thing... Sure enough, I could break the 20# line, but not the 10#! We began to speculate why/how this could happen... Maybe they put lighter line in the package? Nope, the diameter of the 20# was definately larger than the 10# line and smaller than the 30# line. We figured it must be a bad batch, and got through quality control... Anyways, this is a long way of saying there's at least two anglers looking for a new brand of braid for next season, and we appreciate your work and sharing your findings.

@SetTheHook906

3 ай бұрын

If ever that happens with Power Pro or any major brand of line, always contact the company and explain the issue. Most companies will either refund your money or give you a replacement product. I did this with a fishing reel once!

@MrFishBlood

3 ай бұрын

@@SetTheHook906 thank you! I hadn't thought of that. Also, it may help alert the company to an issue. I will pass this advice along.

@charlesbeall2589

2 ай бұрын

@@MrFishBlood Common sense should've steered you in that direction....I guess not.

@redtobertshateshandles

21 күн бұрын

What's just as important as the line is the quality and smoothness of the spool it comes on. If that spool is rough where the line goes, then that line is damaged. I guess that the same is true for the factory equipment too.

i think you should test how smooth is a line and how well it handles saltwater after a trip or two. i know its not simple but it would make choosing braids so much easier

Thanks!

Great review! One thing I am more interested is the casting distance, and ability to avoid wind knot for thin lines among different brands with the same claimed diameter, but I guess without a sponsorship from the fishing line manufactures, it's almost impossible to do. I am speculating similar price of Japanese brand PE lines will have similar performance since they probably have similar manufacturing process and material unless one has a patented unique process/material.

@thelinelaboratory

6 ай бұрын

Casting and wind knots are a very hard thing to test reliably, there are a lot of factors that can impact both. I would love to be able to test every line of every strength rating but its almost impossible as you said. not only does it cost a fortune, each line takes a couple of hours to test thoroughly. One could assume that lines in the same range by the same manufacturer would be similar as they would probably use the same (or similar) raw materials and be braided in the same way. Saying that, even a slight change in the braiding process can result in a disproportionate diameter change, thus affecting the tensile strength calculation which means it would be different for that line compared to other weights of the same line.

Such valuable information. Much appreciated. Plz test the new Varivas 8 which is supposed to be better than the discontinued pe type II. Once again thank you.

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Yes absolutely, looking forward to testing that one 👍

Excellent work, I wonder how momoi ryujin will perform if you can get one.

Should be some ranking for line thickness to breaking strength. One of the main advantages to braid is its thin diameter and superior strength at those sizes.

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

That is precisely what tensile strength is.

If only the WFT gliss was more accesable. Bought 2x 300m spools of the 6kg still for a fantastic price and have spooled 3 of ny fsvourite combos with it.

Hi enjoying the testing of braided lines. Have you or will you be testing fluoro carbon leader under the same tests. Keep up the great work excellent channel

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Yes absolutely, we have tested a few but definitely need to increase the number of fluorocarbon and mono lines.

I love how professionally and unbiased your tests are made. However the only test you may not be able to do is longevity/durability. I have used the Gliss in 17kg, this "braid" is great to cast, super strong and very thin, but after a few times of use the line starts to split - the individual strands become loose, seems like the material/process the use to bind the strands is not strong enough and this line is not braided. Every time i went fishing I had to discard the first 10-20 feet. I think this is why such a great line was not so great after all and hence the demand fell.For me my go to line has been the Sufix 832 for a few years now.

@EddieLindsay681

7 ай бұрын

Yes and it's not abrasion resistant what so ever.

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

For the gliss, I have been using it a few times a week for about 10 months and have had no issues whatsoever with it.

Hey m8 just found your channel...where did those 4hr go? Lol. Was wondering how the tasline factory tour went? It is all i use and if im to be honest i like it but im starting to look for a more cost effictive australian made alternative. Very interesting channel.👍

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! I spent a fair bit of time down at Tasline and had some great discussions. I am definitely going to try to do a more in depth video on the manufacturing process when I get a chance. I have seen quite a few videos done on that topic but none went into the level of detail I would like to see.

Hello sir . Please help to spill the number that you use to count the psi so i know how to count just for a little bit with the other line that you still didn't make a test sir . Please 🙏

Is there anyway to add a metric to test for vulnerability to wind knots? I purchased the varivas multipurpose braid based off your high recommendation but it loves to wind knot. Imho, the number of instances that I experienced wind knotting was enough to not use the braid =\. Thanks again for all the great scientific analysis! Cheers guys and happy new year! 🙌🙌🙌

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

If we could work out some reliable method to predict a wind knot then absolutely. From what I know it can be caused by many factors anything from line construction to the way it is spooled. With that many variables any kind of reliable prediction may be tough.

@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL

7 ай бұрын

@@thelinelaboratory hmm… yea I was thinking about that and don’t have a good way of showing that. Maybe weight of a fixed length of line and time to fall set distance for that length??? Could do both dry and wet weights and times? I don’t know if there’s a direct correlation but it might be if some use. I know varivas lines that are around the 0.6goh diameter feel like they are extremely lightweight compared to other lines. I “feel” like that does have some correlation to increased chance to wind knot but I have no proof of this… Hopefully you guys can think of some metric as I think line “usability” is a huge factor to determination of good vs bad lines. Please don’t take any of this as a demand in any way just a humble suggestion to add more value to your already invaluable channel! Cheers guys and HNY!!!

@tapwater9843

7 ай бұрын

Wind Direction velosity humidity. 😂😂😂

@Ouzconqueror

6 ай бұрын

Gosen Casting is like zero wind knots many ppl tested..You can test yourself not so expensive braid..Also its so so thinner on dia be careful i mean if you always used 0.16 braid etc get 1.5 PE 0.216 for Gosen it will me same thicknes with jbraid 0.16 for example. Also try to not get multicolour braid for my exp they are more harder/more usage for jiging etc

@NorthweSteelheadJunkies

6 ай бұрын

Simple the thinner the line and the less round the more wind knots

Can you pls test with Shimano X12 Pitpull ? Thanks

Este canal me encanta 🥰 muchas gracias por todo felices fiesteas y feliz año nuevo un abrazo .

A video idea, I recommend you to test a braided line that has a teflon coating, such as P line TCB braid 8

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

The power pro ice tec in this test is Teflon coated

Have you ever done tests on really heavy braids such as 100lb+. Looking to get a good line for sturgeon in a sharp rock covered area.

@thelinelaboratory

2 ай бұрын

Anything over 100lbs I am not able to accurately test on my equipment with the current setup. Saying that i do have access to a tensile machine that can test way beyond this but its quite a way from me so i only make trips every now and then. I have tested a few up and over the 100lb using that machine but i am yet to publish all the results as the tests are incomplete.

I have had no probs with Power Pro over twenty years. Sun will make it very weak as you describe.

@Jimwenten

4 ай бұрын

I agree sun with heat will make a line weak

Im thinking of doing some sort of braided line tier list for value vs performance if I have your oernission to usenyoir data to assist

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Sure, shoot me a pm and we can work something out

really nice job guys. what should I buy, to have a 0.22 braid? my god...

@thelinelaboratory

3 ай бұрын

Its almost impossible to know if you just look at the box, but we have tested the Daiwa Expedition PE1 at 0.215mm and the YGK Upgrade 30lb at 0.230mm.

How about a metric measuring cost/value. That Varivas is also more expensive than any line available

@thelinelaboratory

4 ай бұрын

All lines on the website have a price per spool and the length of line on it. You can easily divide one by the other to get cents per meter. But as for "value", i guess that's subjective based on what you feel makes a line good value. Is it outright strength, diameter, suppleness, abrasion...? I feel that a lot of people will have different criteria so trying to come up with a formula that pleases everyone will be very difficult.

The valuation refers to the purchase between what is declared by the manufacturer and the value obtained, however, the manufacturer can declare whatever he wants. A manufacturer could declare 2 kilos of resistance for a PE2 and the value obtained could be 4 kilos, which is +100%, and would be at the top of the resistance ranking, however, 4 kilos is a ridiculously low value. for a PE2. To really know how good a fishing line is, you must compare the lines with each other taking a common diameter. For example, buy all the lines taking as a reference 0.20mm of real value (not declared).

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

No ranking that i do is based on anything claimed by the manufacturer, as i know that is way off 99.9% of the time, so I believe that addresses your first point. The % of max break (for abrasion and FG) is always against the measured maximum break, not the claimed strength. I will compare it to the claimed maximum but its really just for interest sake, and holds no relevance to any calculations. Second, your point about comparing lines of equal diameter is exactly what i am doing by using tensile strength. This takes into account any diameter differences and standardizes it to a common unit of measure so we can compare all lines independent of their actual diameter and breaking strain.

@userange232

7 ай бұрын

@@thelinelaboratory Thanks for the clarification. I'm confident now. Allow me one more suggestion: When you have prepared the ranking, you have taken into account the values: tensile strength, knot resistance FG, abrasion resistance, however, I suggest you add the value "uniformity of the line diameter" since this value is related to the casting distance. This is something that all fishermen look for in a fishing line so it is an important value. Thank you for your hard work. This is really one of the best fishing channels I know (and not even a fish appears 😄 )

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Appreciate the feedback. The uniformity of the line is something I measure, but call it "out of roundness". It is listed for any line that's been reviewed in the last few months since I introduced that test, but I don't have it as a parameter in the summary table for all braids. I need to work out a better way to summarize all the data, there is so much that it's a challenge. FYI - I find any line with out of roundness less than 10% what I would call top tier for this metric.

Can you do Duel braid?

please do a test on shimano tanatoru

Hey man maybe i missed it but can you do the suffix 832 fg knot test please

@thelinelaboratory

2 ай бұрын

I have a bunch more 832 lines to test so I will do all the knot testing on them

Have you seen a significant difference between 4 carrier and 8 carrier abrasion resistance in the same brands?

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Interesting question and I actually crunched the numbers on that exact metric, looking at the abrasion break % as a function of its ultimate strength and there was less than 1% difference between 4 and 8 carrier braids.

@jamesbarron1202

7 ай бұрын

@@thelinelaboratory very interesting! I would’ve thought 8 carrier would be around 10% less abrasion resistant with the finer strands.

Please do hercules 12 strand.

Do you think I should choose Daiwa J-Braid Grand, Shimano Kairiki or Sufix 832?

@thelinelaboratory

Ай бұрын

I haven't used the Shimano personally, but for outright performance the 832 seems better but the Grand is smoother.

@user-rz6sz2sc6b

Ай бұрын

@@thelinelaboratory Thank you very much

please try ASSO 8X Braid

Valeu!

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! ❤️

Could you test more ice fishing braid?

@thelinelaboratory

2 ай бұрын

We are based in Australia and ice fishing really isn't a thing here so we don't have anything available. We did test some of the Power Pro icetec which was amazing on knot strength and abrasion resistance, but that's it.

@redtobertshateshandles

21 күн бұрын

​@@thelinelaboratory didn't realise that you are in Australia.

Bonjour, merci pour votre travaille. Je vous regarde depuis la France. Si vous devez conseiller 1 seul tresse,la quelle conseiller vous ? Merci encore 😊

@thelinelaboratory

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Currently my favorite is the new Varivas 8. It's great quality and widely available. I have another spool of PE2 to test so we will see how that performs.

@Mahdi-Mahdi06

Ай бұрын

Merci pour votre réponse

Are there any lines in the 20lb class you recommend where the line diameter is actually around .22-28mm and actually breaks over 20lbs? Price is no concern just need more than 150M. Thanks

@thelinelaboratory

11 күн бұрын

Worth looking on the website where you can check diameters and strengths linelaboratory.com/braid-summary/

@canuturnitdown

11 күн бұрын

@thelinelaboratory yes I subbed. And looked at the lines. Only one really stood out was the Suffix 832 15lb. Didn't know if u update quarterly or as often as the video

@thelinelaboratory

11 күн бұрын

Updates are made to the website dynamically any time I finish testing a new line so that's pretty much the most complete and up to date list

@canuturnitdown

11 күн бұрын

@@thelinelaboratory great. Thank you!!

Hello. Have you ever tested the Westin W10 Costal braid?

@thelinelaboratory

4 ай бұрын

I haven't but I have been reading a lot about it and am very interested in testing it out. Seems almost impossible to get in Australia tho

@peterstavrou7690

4 ай бұрын

I live in Finland and cannot easily get the best braids in your tests unfortunately 😢. Curious to know how Westin compares. Great content keep it up 👍.

@thelinelaboratory

4 ай бұрын

If you have any spare, put it in an envelope and send it to us 😏

@peterstavrou7690

4 ай бұрын

Just sent a message via your website 👍

Hey what about jof x12 😢😢😢

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

I have some jof x8 but yet to test it. Hope to get to it early in the new year.

There should be stated/actual diameter too. for example, majorcraft dangan has +181% in diameter, how can it even be top4

@thelinelaboratory

4 ай бұрын

Diameter info and more stats are all available on the website for the lines that we have published, so I didn't include every detail for every line in the video. For the ratings, I rate them purely on their performance in the tests, not how accurate their marketing department is.

How can Gosen Casting cannot on list interesting Zero Wind knots so Thin..Like 1.5 Gosen 0.216 same thin as Jbraid 0.16..Zero wind knots for real..

@thelinelaboratory

6 ай бұрын

I haven't tested it as yet so I cannot classify it. As soon as I get my hands on some I certainly will.

@aliyucel9670

6 ай бұрын

@@thelinelaboratory Gosen will change top 5 definitely..

Interesting tests for sure but have a hard time taking them serious when Gliss wins. That stuff had terrible abrasion resistance, do any search on it and you will see its worthless when it comes to abrasion.

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

My testing disagrees. Can you direct me to any decent test that shows this?

@EddieLindsay681

7 ай бұрын

@@thelinelaboratory after thinking about it more your testing new line of course and Gliss shortcomings is after 1 or 2 fishing trips it starts to split and fray and that’s probably why it has no durability

@thelinelaboratory

7 ай бұрын

Yes I test new line, that's the only reasonable way to compare lines otherwise you have to standardize their use which is very difficult when I am testing dozens of lines per month. I have also used it for a few hours per week for the last 10months and found zero issues. Everyone will have a difference of opinion based on their experience.

@turbostyler

6 ай бұрын

Interesting, my user experience with gliss was awful. So much that I requested a refund and got it. It was awful for knot strength and abrasion resistance.

Gliss durability isn't great compared to powerpro.

Test the new varivas variant now this is no longer available

@thelinelaboratory

Ай бұрын

We have released a video review on the newer Varivas 8 not long ago

@liambird5349

Ай бұрын

Just watched it thanks going to give it ago , use j braid on all my reels would you in your opinion think it’s worth swapping

@thelinelaboratory

Ай бұрын

@@liambird5349 I have just put the Varivas 8 on a couple of reels but i need to some time to use it and see how it goes in the real world, so right now i cannot confidently say.

really , you tested lines in different weights , some aren't available anymore or only in australia . pretty much a worthless exercise

@thelinelaboratory

2 ай бұрын

Yep, sorry for wasting your time. If you would like to send me a spool of every currently available line in your country then I would be happy to recompile the list.

@oldfart5063

20 күн бұрын

@@thelinelaboratory seriously though youve heard of compareing apples to oranges . thats what you did .

It's so bad accuracy.

Not a fan of the AI voice, semi American accent and some of those pronunciations are off. There’s one letter ‘f’ in Sufix so pronouncing it suffix doesn’t sound right. Soofix would be a better fit I think.

@yep.fishing

7 ай бұрын

It pronounced it perfectly? Atleast that's how we say it in Australia.

@charlesbeall2589

2 ай бұрын

@@yep.fishing Does everyone in Australia wear latex gloves to handle their packaged fishing line?😆

@thelinelaboratory

2 ай бұрын

It's purely for contrast between the white background and the box/spool/line