Fishing Knot Testing - What's the best Braid to Leader knot?
Testing the characteristics of 5 popular braid to Leader Knots.
0:00 Intro
0:47 Braid and Leader testing
3:54 Improved Albright Knot
5:18 Alberto Knot
6:51 Double Uni Knot
8:10 FG Knot
9:45 PR Knot
11:18 Final Results
11:18 Comments
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The consistency you got in the breaks for each knot shows how much you have perfected tying that particular knot to how you tie it. Well done!
Excellent video. I’ve been using double uni knot and now it looks like I need to teach myself the FG. Thanks
FG all the way and this is my favorite fishing line test channel 👍
Best fishing line testing channel on KZread and best explanation and gets to the point 10/10 for your efforts mate 👏👏
@thelinelaboratory
25 күн бұрын
Thanks 👍
I had a feeling the FG knot would come out on top, great testing 👍🏼
@nazeem5400
16 күн бұрын
FG is the best if done properly, I use it and it never unravels or break at the knot 💪🎣
Alberto is my go-to. Never had any issues with it, ever!
@finnafishfl
9 күн бұрын
This is meaningless. FG is stronger lol Alberto is okay in a pinch
thanks for all tests you do for us, keep going!
Greatly appreciate the time to do this! Mahalo
Best video for testing line. Thanks a lot bro!
First test I've seen where someone tested the knot and not the anchor to the test platform. Excellent job with testing and amazing test rig.
As usual EXCELLENT testing! I have confidence in the FG. The knot has never broken on me. It has been a break below the knot. You’re right, PRACTICE!
The best fishing related channel out there!
That is about the most scientific method I've seen used to test knots. Lots of variables as you said. Practice.
Informative and helpful. I’m pleased with the performance of the Alberto and will stick with it. Thanks!
@imanibrahim6268
13 күн бұрын
Me too mate. Its the fastest knot i cld tie up in a minute. I also usually let the drag on my Vanford do a lot of the work. 60% I'll take it.
@51ddb
13 күн бұрын
@@imanibrahim6268 that’s what drag is for….. and the Vanford can take. Great reels.
Glad I found this channel. Great job preparing and administering the tests. I express my deep gratitude. Please continue your work so that both you and we can learn new things and learn new details about how to improve our equipment.
That was a very detailed description of these knots. Thank you for your test. I have been watching videos on this subject your test confirmed that the FG knot was the go to knot
For heavy fishing always FG knot...its simply the best,very good job my friend
I've been using mostly Albright (not improved) knot since before it existed.. Cam up on my own when braid first came to market in USA and it's never failed me. I have used a few other knots recommended but always come back due to speed, thinness and no failure. Fg knot just takes too much time. I used to burn the tag ends decades ago but gave up. I periodically will use glue over.
ill gladly accept 3rd place for the alberto knot its my personal go to knot for braid to mono and ive never had issues with it i started FG knots with braid when i first did bumpers but it takes so long and is not exactly easy to do on the bank when you have to completely redo a set up so i choose the alberto knot for its speed and strength i had done the double uni knot before and had issues but the alberto knot never seems to fail me so im happy with it
@diemos322jones9
22 күн бұрын
Yep. It's fast and easy to learn. I spend a good amount of time changing lures out, looking for bass.
@Larry77777
17 күн бұрын
@@diemos322jones9 Further to your comment about changing lures out, looking for bass, I like to pre-tie (with Palomar knot) a size 0 Mustad dual lock snap to the 10lb and 16lb fluoro leaders I use for bass fishing, so I can change lures out much faster than retying the lures. BTW I always tie Alberto knot for braid to leader (and do it at home before leaving for the water).
Great video explaining where tue knot breaks. You get an understanding or more reasons why I have ended up using an FG for all
Glad to see someone using real testing equipment, not buckets of water, tug of war, etc. Unfortunately, Warren duToit across the pond stopped his knot testing. Check him out sometime.
@thelinelaboratory
22 күн бұрын
I have watched quite a bit of their stuff and it's great. But yeah they have seemed to of dropped off lately
thanks for all tests !!!
Another great testing video - thanks. I always use the FG if I have time to tie it, with a braid-doubled alberto as an on-water backup. Good to know that the alberto is > 60% breaking strain.
For short leaders 10' or less I started using the super easy Surgeons knot. 4 wraps, no spit, no nonsense. Tight lines!
@ioijiopjkiopjkp
19 күн бұрын
If you're tying braid to mono then that knot will be pretty weak, the braid digs into the mono.
@KissmyBasss
9 күн бұрын
Fluorocarbon. I caught an 8-3 the first time trying it. 15 braid to 12 leader
Excellent execution. I use Alberto as its works “good enough” and is fairly easy to do when waded out.
I become FG knot believer since i know this knot, never disappointed me.
Thank you for this very informative video.
Nice test and I have to learn the FG !
Just subscribed!! Maybe a video testing spliceable hollow core in the future? And the final comments is great advice, thank you.
Thanks for another great vid
Great video!! Thanks!!
Very well made video and testing, but for most if not all bass fishermen out there, I would suggest using a leader size that is smaller then the braid, preferably what is most commonly used, like 20lb braid on 12 lb leader. THAT would be interesting (although FG will win) and more realistic. Thanks.
@EthosAtheos
19 күн бұрын
I was thinking this same thing. The FG has not been my go to when attaching a 6lb leader to 8lb braid. Because the knot doesn't hold well with such thin materials. Best knot I've found so far was the double surgeon's knot. Everything else slipped and untied under tension.
@pmm422
18 күн бұрын
@@EthosAtheos interesting I've been using the Alberto knot on my 20lb braid to 12lb leader and have only had the knot fail before the leader on one occasion 100's of times the leader breaks at the lure tie on but the leader knot nearly always holds. I'll pay a lot closer attention to the lighter lines though thanks for sharing.
@FurtherNorth
14 күн бұрын
Is it safe to assume you mean "lower breaking strength" and not "smaller"? The former makes sense, for a lot of reasons. The latter - meaning diameter - would be virtually impossible for any practical application.
@marclafontaine5615
11 күн бұрын
@@FurtherNorth I mean lighter line, and the leader is always lighter than the main line, is it not? Maybe some experts out there that have different opinion. But most would agree, I think.. Most people would have, for example, a 20 lb braid with a 10-12 leader. Or 60 lb braid with 20 lb leader. I want to see someone (I'm not asking you personally) to make a video where they actually use the real line on light line, like a 12 lb braid on 6 or 8 lb line, instead of using cords to show how to make the knots. We can all make those knots with fat cords, that's not the point. The point is how do you do it with mini-line you can barely see and that won't fold over so easily like a fat cord will do.
@marclafontaine5615
11 күн бұрын
@@pmm422 I love the alberto as well, most practical and quick while I'm on the boat, but trying to master the FG as I know it's better, albeit slightly.
Thanks for sharing with us👍
Gran trabajo,gracias por el video.❤
Thanks that was very informative, I would love to see if this holds true (I expect it will) if the two lines have similar diameters (maybe braid/braid). Would also be awesome to see a slowmo side view. Great work thanks as always!
Awesome information
Great video.
Thanks for this test
Excellent and informative video. Validates my go to knot ie the FG knot . Just a query: Here in South Africa we tie the double uni by doubling the braid first and then tying the knot with 8 turns of the doubled braid and 4 turns of the fluorocarbon. I know many fishermen who swear by this knot. Perhaps you can test this. It would be great to know the strength of this knot.
well done, thank you.
All these knots has its own place on when best to use them. Especially when efficiency is taken into account. I still use my double uni when the bite is hot. But avoid it when i need to cast thick leaders.
This is why I keep my old Stradics with two spools. If I bust off, I just change the spool. And keep fishing. FG all the way.
Thanks ❤
hola all my fg's lol 😂 also a lighter to melt the tag of the fg leader tag to a cup shape helps reduce line catching on rod eyes 👍 moisten lines first 👍
How about testing the yucatan knot and the triple surgeons knot. These are easy and quick for older folks with not so nimble fingers and not so great vision to tie in the boat in a hurry. Also the slim beauty knot which is what I use when i retie at home with plenty of light and no wind. But, watching these tests I am probably going to switch to an Alberto knot. I am also thinking you will probably test terminal knots in the future.
There is an improved version of the Alberto where before tightening the knot on the final loop you wrap through the eye 3 times.
I'd love to see a knot-tying shootout vid between a few people who think they tie the best versions of these knots. A test of technique (and skill?). Great test vid here btw
@thelinelaboratory
13 күн бұрын
Funny you say that, I have been working through an idea that is along those lines.
@beebumbling
13 күн бұрын
@@thelinelaboratory Awesome! I look forward to seeing what you come up with
I love the FG knot and I use it for braid to mono, braid to fluorocarbon, and braid to coated multi-strand wire bite guard...but it doesn't work on single strand uncoated nickel-titanium bite guard...the wraps have nothing to dig into. It also doesn't work for a mono main line to a wire bite guard of any kind at the line sizes I use. I use the Alberto Knot for those.
i’ve done similar test at home , ow outcomes are similar, fg knot is my go to if i’m in a rush 6x surgeon knot (30% less then fg) ,followed by the double uni 55% below fg breaking strain.
Спасибо!! Это было очень интересно!!
Would love to see close-ups of the knots during the testing. Otherwise, awesome!
Thanks for all that work, you can see that's all done very seriously. Now I wonder the differences while using lighter lines, like a 12/16 lb fc leader. My guess is that the % gap between the knots will be minor, like the "poor" performance with the double uni is due to the big diameter of the fluoro squeezing hard on the braid
Love the tests! Any chance of testing shock vs regular leaders? Like shock nylon leader and shock fluoro leader against non shock variants? Seems like there’s an increase in pushing shock leaders in the current market. Sometimes it feels like a scam/marketing hype.
@thelinelaboratory
25 күн бұрын
Yeah that's definitely an interesting one that we will look into.
I agree that being proficient at one knot is best.. I use the albright knot and can tie it fast and freehand. As far as strength, I use it in bass fishing, but my knots have brought a few 300+ lb. cow yellowfin over the rail
Great test ! thanks for taking the time and effort on this one ! Would you expect different results using a lighter fluro or mono as the leader?
@thelinelaboratory
24 күн бұрын
Its possible, but hard to say for sure unless its tested. I believe Toit may of done a series of tests on different weight lines.
Great video, would you mind doing one on loop knots with light line?
Fg all the way ,my one and only knot thin and extremely strong if done properly 💪🎣tight lines
Oh hell yea KZread finally recommends me a channel I want to see more of! Any other braid comparison chart I’ve seen has Yo-Zuri Superbraid making all other braids look weak, pretty please add that to your testing? I’ll send you some new spools of the line if you want me to!
@thelinelaboratory
24 күн бұрын
Yes i have just received some Yo-Zuri samples so we will test it soon.
Damn awesome!
Good test sir. May I ask, did you try a 5 wrap leader/10wrap braid for the dbl uni? The uni numbers seem very low. Also, I hope you plan on following this up with a test with nylon instead of fluorocarbon. Something like a Platypus hard armour or Schneider would be lovely to see. Thanks for your work!
Very nice and interesting this one. Great job. I did noticed that for the double uni know you made only 3 leader loops and braid 5. I use to make 9 loops on the braid and 6 in the leader ,and i use this knot with 8 pound braid and 10 pound leader just for not very big fish ,Trout, Australian Salmon, and stuff like that. Said that could you please try this one just to see how does it goes??? Ps:for serious fish i use the FG knot and never had a problem so far...thanks in advance 😊
Amazing test. One thought, that maybe with these kind of strong thick lines it is hard to put a lot of tension before half hitch, maybe only if a man is a bodybuilder, I believe it is possible to do more than 90% on fg. x4 braids seem to work better for me, especially braid to monofilament. Also, many years ago I spent all day with ygk x3 to swivel knots . And one time got 100% but it was double lined clinch with 25 or 26 wraps. (Pe 0.25 or 0.6 can't remember)
FG Knot for me when I am rigging at home and Alberto Knot on the water!
@supafly1982
15 күн бұрын
That's pretty much the same as me. At the car or home FG, when I'm fishing Alberto just for quickness sakes, however since using the pinky wrap method my FG is getting quicker
Please try Climax braided line & Berkley Trilene Big Game. Thank you
Could you make next test for YGK Bornrush if it’s will be possible,thks in advance
Great and very informative video as always! Do you always use the fg with rizzuto finish in your testing?
@thelinelaboratory
21 күн бұрын
Always FG yes but not with a rizzuto. I am not sure it makes a difference to outright strength but it's something I will test. Either way I won't be changing for my testing as it basically invalidates all my previous tests if I start to use a different knot.
@piesaturn6282
21 күн бұрын
@@thelinelaboratory Damn, I personally do think FG with rizzuto is the best way of FG. I would really love to see your tests using the rizzuto. Your previous line tests didn't have a FG knot strength test, so I don't think it's that big of a deal, or maybe you can label the previous tested knots with the finish you used and do the current test with rizzuto and label that as well. Or maybe even include a new test just for the rizzuto(I think it'll be worth it). At the end do whatever makes you feel comfortable I'm just giving ideas that I think are good. Have a nice day!
I pulled a good size Tarpon with a double uni knot
I'm definitely a FG knot guy but I like the SC as well... I'm assuming the PR knot is basically the SC knot from what I can tell??? I can tie the SC faster then the FG so when I'm rigging up before I go fishing I tie the FG but if I have to tie up a new leader on the water I normally tie the SC... Pretty cool video man I like that you're using equipment that is more consistent then other methods I've saw on KZread.
Any chance you tested the standard Albright? The improved version never tightens down properly for me, and I suspect that makes it weaker.
Every testing I have seen the PR came out on top . Interesting this one showed the FG.
I have never had a knot failure while fishing the double uni.
which knot is strongest to tie to terminal tackles such as swivels?
Fg is great but only if you get it right, I've had too many slip but can tie the Alberto much more consistent so best knot for me is the one I can trust and tie
Surely double uni with more wraps would be better, I usually do 6-10 each side but I have found that it breaks easy if there is a big difference in diameter of the leader to braid
You should link a tutorial or upload a video of your way of doing the fg knot
@thelinelaboratory
23 күн бұрын
I may do a quick video on this if I get some time
@alfonsogarzon7291
23 күн бұрын
@@thelinelaboratory It would be amazing. You can do KZread shorts about it (I prefer videos over shorts but it would be a nice way of integrating those kind of videos in your channel). I love your channel and I am talking about it to all my friends here in Spain :)
Very nice video fantastic work. This shows exactly why a good knot is important and how much extra you can push your line. I test a lot of my knots as well and all ways tie a FG knot when i have time. I had high hopes for the PR knot as i heard it was 'the best'. It does show further investigation required in the variation in the result has some room for improvement. I have a modified uni knot and braid to leader double uni I wish you could test. In my personal testing my modified double uni shows promising results but i dont think its beating a fg. It is way easier and quicker to tie on a boat so it does have its place. How can i get in contact with you to go about testing these?
@thelinelaboratory
25 күн бұрын
You can shoot us a message here linelaboratory.com/contact/
@Side85Winder
25 күн бұрын
@thelinelaboratory will you be testing line termination knots like a uni and polamar comes to mind. I loved toit fishing videos on these. His videos shown knots behaved differently with different diameters. His own knot the toit knot is a very nice knot and looks clean it does feel good. It's a very deep rabbit hole when knot testing. I spent the better part of a week braking knots in my spare time and thinking about it.
for the PR knot did you use the bobbin knotter?
Try testing relix knot, one of the famous knot that used in Indonesia
I was bass fishing at a local pond yesterday using a light Texas Rigged 7inch ribbon tail worm, using 20lb braid to a 14lb fluoro leader connected with a crazy alberto knot and hooked into and landed a 22lb channel catfish. If that isnt a real world test than idk what is. This is a scum pond so lots of muck and debris in the water and still got him in. The rod is 7' 3" medium heavy fast action. The Daiwa Tatula elite TTEL731MHFB
Not to be a debby downer but it looks like your using rubber tubing or something of the sort to tie the line around which would then add give to the line increasing the lbs that the line would break at just a heads up. Very informative either way thanks for the vid!
Your contact page says "Invalid Nonce, please clear page cache" when I try to submit no matter what device I use and clearing cache on all of my stuff.
@thelinelaboratory
8 күн бұрын
Sorry about that, WordPress updates always seem to break things. Should be fixed now.
Dear Sirs, thank you very much for sharing your test: it's a really well performed test, following a good metrological scheme ... perhaps 3 times are not a real good sample size, for instance in SPC the usual sampling requires 5 measures, but I appreciate your efforts. I regret, as angler, only one thing: you did not test the SC knot and several Japanese tests have already demonstrated that SC knot is stronger than FG one, furthermore SC knot is easier and quicker to tie ... would you like try it, please?
Will there be slim super beauty knot and blood knot?
@thelinelaboratory
25 күн бұрын
They didn't rank highly enough in the votes to get in, but if we do another one we can see if they can be included.
The lefty cray knot is quick. Easy
Pr and FG ARE BOTH GREAT, JUST THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE BOBBIN FOR PR OTHERWISE YOU LOSE A LOT OF STRENGTH IN THE KNOT.
i went thru your webesite but didnt find any tutorials on knot tying.
@thelinelaboratory
24 күн бұрын
There are plenty of tutorials online that specialize in this.
But what if you doubled the wraps for the double uni?
@redtobertshateshandles
25 күн бұрын
Sometimes the knot is good. Sometimes it's weak. Just practice the FG.
@thelinelaboratory
25 күн бұрын
Unsure if that would make a difference or not. Didn't seem to be the actual loop count that influenced the breaking strain, nor did any of the loops specifically cause the failure from what i can tell. The purpose of the wraps for the knot is just so the lines cant pull apart, so i think as long as they don't pull apart and they lock up against each other the number of wraps may not be vital.
@etbaniktamer3134
25 күн бұрын
@@thelinelaboratory i use double uni for a long Time with very thin diamètre. The number of loop is crucial. For exemple with the Suffix nanobraid 0.04 mm I have to make 15 loop with the braid and 6 loop with the leader. With 0.08 braid it il be 9 loop braid
@stosicmilan
25 күн бұрын
Great video. Best video ever for this kind of tests. Congatulation!
no GT knot test?
Are there people that use this strong of a fluro leader with 20 lb braid? Or was 60lb fluro just used for the sake of this testing? I usually use a 10lb fluro leader with 20lb braid.
Since I learned FG, I had no breakages whatsoever
Would have liked to see the blood knot in there too.
@tonchido
17 күн бұрын
Blood knot is weakest,always unties
Which is the best knot to tie for a swivel with a braided line ?
@thelinelaboratory
24 күн бұрын
I am not sure I'm sorry as I rarely if ever run a swivel off of braid.
@sampriolkar
24 күн бұрын
@@thelinelaboratory ok thanks
@mathewcampbell8479
24 күн бұрын
@@sampriolkarPalomar tied well!
I tie the FG but end it with half hitch knots, not the rizzuto, not sure if it makes a difference. I may be tieing a weaker FG knot if it does.
@thelinelaboratory
16 күн бұрын
I actually generally finish with half hitches also for when I do the testing on this channel, and when I am tying an FG in the water. I am not convinced a rizzuto is stronger, but it definitely seems to make a nicer knot. I will need to test to see if there is an actual difference.
@JohnnyX262
16 күн бұрын
@@thelinelaboratory i look forward to the results. This was a great and informative video. Thanks!
Please do test for varivas avani jigging
@thelinelaboratory
24 күн бұрын
We do have some of that in PE3 and will test it soon.
Ive watched numerous knot tests. Seems like most braids tests near twice the labeled breaking strength. Meanwhile the braid breaks close to its label when you tie a uni or uni to uni knot. I think braid companies know this and take it into account when they label thier product
The PR seems even more time consuming than FG-knot so I'll stick with the latter. Never failed me for my freshwater and light inshore fishing.
@thelinelaboratory
19 күн бұрын
Couldn't agree more. With a bit of practice the FG is a couple of minutes max
Loved this. How about 20lb braid, 15lb leader….
Uni to Uni. Test over.
It seems as though they are giving the breaking strain of the knots rather then the line itself.
FG knot, the Fking Good knot.
@thelinelaboratory
16 күн бұрын
😂