The amazing thing about Steve Howe is how overlooked he is when most people talk about great guitar players.

@royjones3099

Жыл бұрын

I love his playing always!

@thomasrichmond2413

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know about that. From ‘77-‘81 he was voted best overall guitarist in guitar player magazine. He probably would’ve won more but they said he wasn’t eligible after 5 wins. I mean, that wasn’t Tiger Beat magazine.

With all he's simplicity, my favorite one is Andy Latimer. The most important criteria for me is how much the musician had elicit emotional responses out of me. And Andy is the guy.

@joaquinlezcano2372

Жыл бұрын

Latimer has proved that he can also be pretty technical. He just chooses to play like that

@ArthurMol-ib5tg

11 ай бұрын

Andere Latimer is amazing

I would also add Bill Nelson to that list. Adventures in a Yorkshire Landscape is one of my favourite solos.

@garyhitchcock3828

Жыл бұрын

💯 Especially the live version Bill is an amazing guitarist 🎸

Steve Hillage is CRIMINALLY underrated and appreciated

@douglasanderson8636

Жыл бұрын

yay! well said

@switchdoctor2032

Жыл бұрын

Very pleased to see Steve Hillage getting some kudos

Bill Nelson ( Be-Bop Deluxe) is an amazing guitarist 🎸

I completely agree with Steve Howe... What also made him unique was how he kept his ego in check and blended his parts with Chris Squier. People talk about how great bruford and squire were together, which they were, but to me it was squier and howe together that was magical for yes. Squire's base was so gritty and out front it freed up howe so he could use his immense creativity. In parts of heart of the sunrise sometimes you wouldn't even notice the guitar playing .. howe was coming in and out with volume pedal leaving center stage for squire and bruford and of course Anderson singing. Some of the licks he lays down and close to the edge are absolutely gorgeous and brilliant as he accents squires bass .. same thing with songs like yours is no disgrace... On relayer he just lets it all hang out. then he hit you with mood for a day and clap... What else can you say?

3 guitarrists in this list are so underrated. Ackerman, Hackett and Howe.

Steve Howe - came from a jazz/classical background, an amazing technician who always sounded strangely organic... "Best Overall Guitarist" in Guitar Player magazine five years in a row (1977-1981) and in 1981 was the first rock guitar player inducted into the Guitar Player Hall of Fame.

@reidwhitton6248

Жыл бұрын

"Best overall guitarist 5 years" went to Steve Morse on the heals of Howe. Morse is a brilliant composer and phenomenal player who deserves a mention in a discussion like this.

Andy, thank you soooo much for mentioning Jan Akkerman as a significant prog guitarist! This is the first time on KZread that I have ever heard his name mentioned. Perhaps the critics wrote off Focus very early in the game because of "Hocus Pocus" the ultra corny but extremely virtuoso performance of this crowd pleaser. If you want to hear a real prog classic from this band listen to "Answers, Questions - Questions, Answers from "Focus, Live at the Rainbow". Check out Akkermans dark angular guitar solo here.... way ahead of his time. Like Steve Howe he is equally at home with classical guitar. His personal albums are unfortunately inconsistent. I see that you have Twin House propped up in the corner of the shelf. Nice touch, since Philip Catherine replaced Jan Akkeman as the Focus guitarist when Akkerman left. Catherine has a gift for prog-like compositions as well. Examples; "Airpower", from Twin-House and the ever changing/moody "Tranvested Express" from Splendid (another Coryell/Catherine duet album). Many Thanks Jack G (from Canada)

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Hocus Pocus is an incredible record. Unlike other prog bands that reign in their over the topness, that song is a veritable showcase of what that band could do.

@l3eatalphal3eatalpha

Жыл бұрын

Hi Jack, at the time he was considered one of the greats and he was a superb guitarist who sounded great, despite using some highly dodgy amps. But what do I know? If you havent seen it I recommend the tv show he was on with Stefan Grossman.

@leproghead

Ай бұрын

Was? Still is.

Thanks so much for including Jan Akkerman on your list. As a guitar player myself, I regard his playing as approaching Steve Howe's level of skill and versatility. It goes without saying I love listening to both!

Good list. Regarding Fripp and Howe, I might list Fripp first due to the fact that he has continued to be an innovator on the instrument over a much longer period of time, whereas Howe has stagnated somewhat over the past several years in the area of innovation. Both men are monster talents on the instrument.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, i agree,,,but then Yes sold 30 million albums to KC's 1 million. I always try and balance my own personal taste with innovation and popularity when I create these lists

@careyvinzant

Жыл бұрын

29 million of those albums sold were copies of 90125, so why isn't Trevor Rabin #1?

As good as Fripp is in Crimson, I really love what he brings to the table as a collaborator, from the early Eno solo stuff to Bowie, Daryl Hall, or David Sylvian (among others).

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

He really plays guitar with other people. In KC he helms the band

And let’s go ahead and give Gary Green a mention. I’m sure he was in your low teens! Love your podcast! You know your stuff, think deeply, and speak clearly about it. Uncommon! A welcome discovery. Keep going!

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@aspirationsthegentlegiantp5362

Жыл бұрын

Hear hear!!

Andy, Steve Morse deserves a mention. Dixie Dregs, Kansas, Deep Purple and his solo stuff. He plays on tons of tribute albums because he can emulate any player out there. Many, many times guitarist of the year by Guitar Magazine....

@swiftusmaximus5651

Жыл бұрын

Thats because he plays for Deep Purple, the cover band version. Most guitar Mag Poll Voters are of limited intellect. Morse, like Holdsworth are Fusion guitarists and Fusion layers are the best. Holdsworth, #1 and Morse is a mere #40 out of 50. Comparing a Fusion player with a Rock player which Guitar Magazine is, its really not fair.

@wiggy009

Ай бұрын

@@swiftusmaximus5651Morse is a lot more than just a fusion player he is also bluegrass and classical and his guitar writing is incredible. It’s not all about technique

@swiftusmaximus5651

Ай бұрын

@@wiggy009 Ive been listening to the Dregs since 1977, you think your telling me something i dont know?

@wiggy009

Ай бұрын

@@swiftusmaximus5651well you said more is a #40 out of fusion players

@swiftusmaximus5651

Ай бұрын

@@wiggy009 Morse is foremost a Fusion player. That doesnt mean he cant play other styles as all true Fusion players. Its whether they want to or not or is smart and goes for the Beeg Pay Day with Purple. Purple became a Cover band in 1975 anyway. Who ever gets to play Smoke on the Water under the Purple Monikee and every 14 yo who got a Fender Squire for Xmas votes for that guy

Thank you, Andy.I really enjoy your passion and recommendations.Very inspiring.

Francis Dunnery -- His 'Back in NYC' cover is just phenomenal.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

As is Jeff Buckley's

@sizzlechest69

Жыл бұрын

Dunnery's Back in NYC cover is a masterpiece.

@oman3809

2 ай бұрын

Kevin Gilbert's too.

These videos are so instructive and deeply descriptive .. ‘keeping them all for future reference !! Thanks and congrats !!

I'm really happy I found your channel, Andy. Here's my Steve Hackett story: Last Christmas, I was feeling a bit down, so I decided to find Steve's company email, and wrote a bit of a gushing fan letter telling him that I enjoyed his book and I thought The Lamb was as important an album as Sgt. Peppers. I sent it off thinking, "Well, I'm glad I got that off my chest." A few hours later, Steve emailed me back to say, "Thanks so much for the kind words. Merry Christmas." Gobsmacked, I wrote Steve back, and we wound up corresponding back and forth for the next few days. I cannot tell you the elation I felt going to my inbox and finding another letter from one of my musical heroes. My 1st concert was the Genesis Trick of the Tail tour at Beacon Theatre, NY. Anyway, we somehow got into horror novels and films, which he loves. I mentioned my latest novel was a ghost story and gave him the title. The next day, he wrote and said, "I just bought your book from Amazon. My wife and I are looking forward to reading it." It was the best (late) Christmas gift I've ever received from a guy who had absolutely no idea who I was before I wrote to him. Who other world famous artist would do that for a just a fan? He's just the sweetest guy I've ever corresponded with. I saw Steve earlier this year perform Seconds Out with his amazing band at the Beacon Theater, sitting in the same seat I first saw Genesis playing Trick of the Tail. Well, that's my SH story. Take care, Andy. Looking forward to your upcoming videos.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

I met him at an awards ceremony...he told me how it niggled him a posh boy because he was a member of Genesis when he was not posh at all...

@lukameah853

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer I loved his sense of humility, trust, and openness. The man gave me his home address, for goodness sake! Also, please consider doing a video, if you haven't done so already, of one of the greatest bands IMHO ever to emerge from England: XTC. I was once warned of eviction by my landlord for playing Travels in Nihilon (Alan Sillitoe novel, I believe,) at probably around 110 decibels. (I've got a million true stories, lol.) And Dave Gregory is a such a criminally underrated guitarist. Cheers!

@keithf_

Жыл бұрын

What a great story. Steve Hackett is a prog hero. When he talks, I listen. Because he is so eloquent and knowledgeable and interesting. Somewhat of a contrast with his former Genesis bandmates.

Howe, Fripp and Holdsworth are my favourite; one of the most underrated prog guitar player, in my opinion, is Ollie Halsall of Patto, a true innovator with an incredible technique; in the 1970 he played like no one else.

@bakeone4406

Жыл бұрын

The solo on Money Bag alone catapults Ollie to absolute pinnacle status!

Excellent list and full of deserved surprises! Probably I would add Andy Powell at the same level of David Gilmour and Andy Latimer ....

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

Great list, thank U!

Great list, I would add my personal favourite, Mike Oldfield.

your list is great. i was really happy to see where you put Fripp and Howe. I'm also thrilled that you gave Hackett his props as well as Zappa. I was a little surprised that M. Rutherford didn't make it, despite his 12-string work and his compositions; but i think your explanation is fair about bass players being distinguished by their function in the genre. the list would probably double if you were including bass players. excellent list, Andy! you're prog rock bona fides really shines in this video.

Persuasive! I'd put Fripp on top but your arguments are strong. Great list. I'm supporting via Patreon.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! that is fantastic

All the guitarists mentioned are wonderful musicians, but one guitarist that meets the Prog Rock criteria of making a mark on progressive rock, not blues based and kinda "weird", is Mike Oldfield. For many of us, Tubular Bells was our gateway into progressive rock. Mike was not a virtuoso technician, like a Steve Howe or Zappa, but he was an inspiration in showing the way to arrange electric guitar parts that us mere mortals could play, to majestic progressive compositions. I'm sure that a huge number of guitarists that grew up in the '70's and '80's were influenced by Mike Oldfield, I don't understand why so few mention him as an influence today.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Mike was actually very skilled as a guitarist and Tubular Bells is one of the most important prog albums ever made. I have a copy myself but I have only listened to it once, many years ago. It would be a great idea to re-evalute that for this channel

@skidmarkjohnson8452

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer That would be wonderful. Many younger people have no idea the impact Mike Oldfield made on music.

@MilanVasiljevicBGD

Жыл бұрын

Tubular Bells '73, Hergest Ridge '74, Ommadawn '75, Amarok '90, The Songs Of The Distant Earth '94, The Millennium Bell '99, Music Of The Spheres 2008 . Some of Oldfield's Masterpieces.

Great to hear Francis Dunnery get some recognition. It Bites were great, saw them live in the late eighties.

My top ten 1. Steve Hackett 2. Steve Howe 3. Robert Fripp 4. Alex Lifeson 5. David Gilmore 6. John Mitchell 7. Roine Stolt 8. Michel St Pere 9. Steve Hillage 10. Mike Oldfield

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see my old mate John on that list

@WarhawkBeyond2040

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer of course, no list of prog guitarists is ever complete without the one and only, John Mitchell

Alex Lifeson? He wasn't on the list. Incomplete. He is so underrated and overlooked.

@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

5 ай бұрын

Bruh, he didn't put Latimer nor Gilmour. Oc Lifeson wasn't gonna be here. Personally I would take Vai (more like hard rock avant garde imo) and Holdsworth (more towards jazz fusion) out and put in Latimer and Gilmour, and Lifeson would be around Top 15 level. He is great but there are a handful of clearly superior and more "influential" guitarists. It's not a slight, I think Alex is technically better than Gilmour but the impact and influence part also has to count and Lifeson is the least influential member of his trio (same way we know how good someone like Myung is at bass, yet he is not as influential as someone like Portnoy, whom I don't think is superior at his chosen instrument, but def had a bigger musical impact).

20 күн бұрын

Try floating worlds

@acebailey60

19 күн бұрын

@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 Tell John Petrucci that, or Dave Grohl, Billy Corgan, Paul Gilbert, Steven Wilson, Jim Martin, Denis D'Amour, Paris Mayhew, or John Wesley, and so many others. I'm more influenced by him. Ace Frehley was my biggie until I saw Rush in concert. In Geddy's book, My Effin Life, he says that Alex was the genius behind all the music. He's very influential, sadly very underrated. He's in the top 5 whether they like it or not.

@acebailey60

19 күн бұрын

Alex Lifeson is ranked #3 in the Guitar World Readers poll of 100 greatest guitarist.

@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266

19 күн бұрын

@@acebailey60 Maybe he is the unsung hero of his band, ala Malcolm Young or Andy Summers. It still would stand to reason to put someone like Gilmour ahead of him, I think Gilmour is overrated af, but he is undeniably influential.

Andy your top 5 are right on spot!

I would have Robert Fripp in top place because of his experimental innovations. He has experimented with different tuning systems, complex rhythms, and with electronics in his one-man Frippertronics.

A great list Andy. Fantastic callout to Francis Dunnery and Jan Ackerman. As for Holdsworth, if you get a chance then pick up an album called "The Book of the Dead" by K2 (K squared). It is complete prog and he is on three of the five songs. On the longest song, Infinite Journey, his guitar playing is just so creative - he plays slightly outside to create tension and then comes back in for release... totally amazing (unsurprisingly).

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Holdsworth has made so much incredible music

Love the list. I've met Steve Hackett and Adrian Belew...both super nice guys!

Another well reasoned list. Very hard to rank Fripp vs Howe for top spot. Howe is technically best, but Fripp’s inventive, imaginative, risk-taking is really unmatched. Little known Fripp fact: he did some session guitar parts for Vander Graaf Generator’s Pawn Hearts, most notably heard in that searing finale to the epic Lighthouse Keepers track.

@grahammiller9049

Жыл бұрын

Plus on He to He and Fools Mate

Splendid video. I am looking forward to receiving Belew's latest 'Elevator' in the mail. Jan Akkerman is fantastic (and can fit the fusion minded as well). Not too familiar with Vai's solo career, but stoked that I now get to see him in November. Hillage solo I need to dive further into. Apparently a very personable guy from my dad's experience as a festival goer in Norway. Even Dweezil seems to comment on his dad's guitar playing as being unique in perhaps an odd way. So agree with you on Shut Up and Play Yer guitar. It is a massive album in my book. I hope there is rerelease on vinyl at some point. Highly recommend the new rerelease of Exposure.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

I need to get that revamped Exposure

100% agree Zappa’s guitar tone is incredible. Also never ever boring. Ridiculously talented.

thank you !!! you never hear people talking about steve hillage !!!

Great mentions for both Hillage and Hackett, two of my favourite guitarists. I saw Hillage last year and am seeing Hackett this year (his album this year is very good). Good to hear Jan Ackerman mentioned too, one of my first guitar heroes

+1 for Steve Hillage, and his long term collaboration with Miquette Giraudy; as a teenager in the 70s, I loved discovering the music on Motivation Radio and Green. I was so pleased that System 7 emerged in the 90s. Steve and Miquette are class music makers. I now realise that I was distracted and somehow missed or have forgotten Rainbow Dome Musick, so I listened to it again just now. Your comments on how much it influenced the future (e.g. The Orb, whom I also love), is spot on, just as it too references the past with echoes of Townsend's Won't Get Fooled Again analog sequenced synth at 35:34 on the YT vid playing RDM.

I'll go ahead and list mine. Roye Albrighton Steve Howe Gary Green Robert Fripp Allan Holdsworth Kerry Livgren Steve Hackett Martin Barre Adrian Belew John Petrucci

@steverickenbacher7110

2 жыл бұрын

I'd classify Holdsworth as more jazz than anything else. And Fripp is easily top 5 any genre, so there's no way he's below Howe, who hasn't played a good note in over 40 years. Petrucci? LOLOLOLOLOL. I know progheads like to classify Kansas and Jethro Tull as "prog", but fact is they aren't.

Steve Howe's live solo on the Yessongs rendition of Your Is No Disgrace is quite phenomenal.

@MrMaynardWR

2 жыл бұрын

That solo on relayer too

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMaynardWR And his beautiful touch of Awaken...

@thomasdooley1745

2 жыл бұрын

Drama underrated

@palacerevolution2000

Жыл бұрын

I have always thought that Yes (n their classic line up Anderson/Howe/Squire/Wakeman/White) was better live than in studio. Every version on 'Yessongs' is sh*t - hot. Usually because Steve Howe used a overdriven sound on stage. Like you say 'Disgrace'; but IMo the best is 'Perpetual Change'. That solo is fantastic.

@alangeorgebarstow

Жыл бұрын

@@palacerevolution2000 The 'classic' line-up had Bruford, not White. Bruford played on all five first (and best) albums. Standard - of band and albums - dropped when White came in.

interesting list, totally agree on the two steves

I'm writing these down Andy!

Howe and Fripp are my top 2, as well.

An Alliterative Short List- Hillage, Howe, Hackett, and Holdsworth. And Hfripp and Hzappa, to stretch it...just a bit. but we should include Zappa's stunt guitarists: Hvai and Hbelew.. Your list is correct--though Gilmour and Latimer--them too for the ambience.

Thank you, sir! You have brought up a lot of guitarist’s guitarists that I should get acquainted with, as I want to devour the subject, not just emulate Greg Lake.

I too saw that BBC guitar doc. I was dumbfounded by Francis Dunnery’s guitar playing. Nice one, Andy.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Jerry Donahue and Francis both blew us away with that video

@ganazby

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Jerry’s phenomenal playing had my jaw on the floor, too! I liked Marillion, and understood their value, in the prog starved late ‘80s, but It Bites were something different - way more virtuosic, and way more progressive. I remember seeing them on TV, doing an extended live version of Calling All The Heroes, which had my little prog fraternity in raptures. We knew straightaway that they were the real deal. And when the tin-eared gatekeepers of cool reviled them, it confirmed their prog status. Amazing musicians, to a man. They deserve more love.

The Alex Lifeson chord.

A decent list would have liked Phil Miller to have been included. He always had a unique and wonderful tone on his work with Hatfield and the North. I would have Fripp at the top followed by Holdsworth.

Haven't seen/heard Steve Tibbetts mentioned here and he deserves a huge shout out for his innovative prog fusion works on ECM. From the abstract experimental self titled album and 'Yr' to the insane percussive works like "The Fall of Us" which predates the Laswell fusion experiments of 'Tabla Beat Science' by many years. Tibbets reminds me at times of a fully unrestrained Fripp that may only be rivaled by Hendrix in terms of innovative bravery and pioneering sounds and genres, especially "world music".

@hermancharlesserrano1489

Жыл бұрын

Lovely albums and as you say, rarely mentioned

So happy to see Jan Akkerman on your list. The breadth of genes and people he has played with is beyond belief. Ice T to Paco to Charlie Byrd to BB King, The Rosenberg Trio to Claus Ogerman !!! Jazz, Blues, Gypsy, Disco, Electro, Rock, Proto-Thrash, Prog, Blues, Renaissance, Classical - He's done it all - Love the man and his music !!

Got to agree Andy!

Great list Andy.. got to have Alex on there, Jeff Beck ? It's tough making a top 10 list.

Robert Fripp's work on "Fracture" and various tracks from "I Advance Masked" seals the #1 spot for me.

Been thinking about Francis Dunnery/It Bites. First track (I Got You Eating Out Of My Hand), first album (The Big Lad In The Windmill) - instead of a middle eight, they sneak in a full-on mini prog workout, with a blinding guitar solo. Same goes for ‘Turn Me Loose’, which starts out as a typical catchy ‘80s pop song, then erupts into wild modulations, odd meters, and a face melting atonal legato guitar solo, which segues into an alternate picked acoustic guitar section. Lots of WTF? moments. Even more pronounced on the second album. I haven’t listened to them in years, so it was quite eye opening to revisit. Cheers.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

They don't make pop bands like that anymore

Great list as always. However i strongly encourage younto listen to Steve Morse if you haven’t already. One of the most versatile guitarists. Evrything from blue grass to classical to prog to heavy metal. The Dixie Dregs was like a bluegrass influenced Mahavishnu Orchestra. Currently he plays with Deep Purple. I saw him open for the trio of John Mclaughlin, Al DiMeola and Paco DeLucia and he stole the show . He came out and played with them as well and had no problem keeping up. Amazing player but also composer.

@dlsamson

2 жыл бұрын

I loved the early Dixie Dregs :-)

@michaelvaladez6570

2 жыл бұрын

I saw Steve Mores play in a small club where I live about 1990.Dont recall who was in the bandbut they were great they delivered. And they were really LOUD.I got to meet him after the show and he was a gracious person he signed my copy of GUITAR PLAYER magazine. A great show .I also got see Focus in San Francisco they were an opening act for who I don't recall.But they were great I had heard of them so it was a real treat..really loud also. Jan Akkerman was a jazz guitatist praying rock great band.I love your passion for this genre of music.I must admit that I do not like the term Prog Rock.Oh yes and I did see Steve Hillage on tour with his first tour promoting his solo release. And he was so loud it was painful sad to say it was unpleasant. Keep up the good work.

Wot, no Bill Nelson?? Only joking - It's a tough list. I guess Steve Howe and Fripp were predictable and rightly so. Good to see Steve Hillage and Francis Dunnery made it.

yesterday i was introduced in the advanced definition of prog today I have a very special Nr.11 John McLaughlin

@MrMaynardWR

2 жыл бұрын

He transcends categories. My favorite

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMaynardWR To great to be called a prog guitarist....but he is the most progressive guitarist in history

No arguements from me for any of your choices, and the top three could easily have been in any order. Totally agree with you about Steve Vai and great to see Steve Hillage and Jan Akkerman in there - I may have mentioned before that when I saw Akkerman live back in 2001 I was taken somewhere else for the couple of hours he was on stage. Fantastic player.

An interesting list and glad you included Holdsworth. Have to say though and I know you said it woulld spark a furore but Gilmour and Latimer both should be somewhere here.

So glad you included Frank Dunnery. Before the count down begun I was preparing my comment to say "I would have included Frank...". But you did the right thing and included him. Don't know if It Bites were ever a pop band though. For my money they were a prog from day 1, they just didn't look like hippys and they had the audacity of having a top ten hit. Steve Vie could be seen as a prog guitarist simply because he was a student of Frank Zappa. That alone should do it. Oh Andy, you left out Alex Lifeson. What were you thinking? LOL

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Alex is fantastic but I think all the guitarists I covered needed to be mentioned above him for the same reasons Davis Gilmore and Andy Latimer didn't make the list.

Great to see Belew in there

Very entertaining video Andy. Keep this up and you'll soon be known as the 'Bad Boy of Prog'! I've never listened to any of Francis Dunnery's stuff . Is there an album you would recommend that showcases his guitar work? Your enthusiasm for his work has piqued my interest. Also, who is this Gilmour guy you were going on about at the start of the video?😀

@ganazby

2 жыл бұрын

‘Once Around The World’ - It Bites. ‘Fearless’ - solo Francis Dunnery album.

@devereauxclandestine1272

2 жыл бұрын

@@ganazby Thankyou for the recommendations Philip. I will give them a listen.

@ganazby

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, the It Bites Kentish Town concert, which is here on KZread, really shows what Francis and the band could do. Sorry, should’ve recommended it first.

@devereauxclandestine1272

2 жыл бұрын

@@ganazby Thanks Philip, I'll give the Kentish Town gig a look as well.

Jimi Hendrix was most definitely a progressive rock guitarist. His music is almost never considered to be prog rock, but in my opinion he was, alongside the Beatles, the ultimate and original pioneer of what would later become known as progressive rock music. Listen to his guitar playing on tracks like Third Stone From The Sun, All Along The Watch Tower and Gypsy Eyes for example....if that is not progressive guitar playing, I don't know what is!!! I think Jimi, apart from just simply being the greatest electric guitarist ever in general, was also a huge pioneer of and contributor to the roots of prog, art rock, space rock, experimental rock etc. Two other guitarists that need to be mentioned in the greatest prog guitarists ever in my opinion, are David Gilmour and Andy Latimer.

@Leo_ofRedKeep

Жыл бұрын

Hendrix was definitely progressive. Back in 1968, the Melody Maker referred to his music as "Progressive Blues". He does not belong under the "Progressive Rock" umbrella because that term first appeared to reflect the incorporation of European classical music elements while Hendrix kept going into an American funk-soul direction. In that, the very term "progressive rock" is a misnomer, but so is the name of most genres.

A very good list. I was introduced to Steve Hillage back in the mid 1970's from a guitarist friend of mine. I forget what album it was, but it was a group setting as opposed to his name. I heard little else after that and I think he was more popular elsewhere than in America, where I am. I'll admit I did forget about him but I suppose I can track down his music. The player who ruined me for other guitarists was Allan Holdsworth. I first heard him on his "Road Games" album and I saw him perform in NYC just after the release of "Metal Fatigue." Hearing Holdsworth live, in the early 1980's, I was astounded by his performance and that was it for me. There was so much musicianship going on that night and on such a high level. I had the opportunity to see him live three times and each was amazing. Still, I would have thought he would rank within the top two but to each their own. RIP Allan Holdsworth, there will never be another the like of him. Thank you for posting.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

He dwarfs all other guitarists....

Nice that you mention Jan Akkerman.

Hi Andy, Another great list! (Kudos for including Belew! I just saw him last week & he's as great as ever!) I would have considered Steve Morse, Mike Oldfield & Franco Mussida (PFM) as being important innovators as well. I think I agree with Eric Armstrong that I would've put Fripp at #1 for much the same reasons. A couple of other guys I would mention (if you haven't heard them you should check them out) are Stanley Whittaker (Happy The Man) and Rudy Perrone (Cathedral). Sadly, Rudy only made 2 truly 'prog' albums (Cathedral "Stained Glass Stories" & his first solo album "Oceans of Art") Rudy is largely unknown except by collectors of American prog but (imho) he deserves much more accolades for taking the three main innovators (Howe, Fripp, Hackett) and making a perfect marriage of their styles. Some of the guitarwork on "Stained Glass Stories" is transcendental! You can check it out here: kzread.info/head/OLAK5uy_nHuPxio3a-CRt2_-sgPlcrfyDSlyodSQY and here is one of the best tracks from "Oceans Of Art" : kzread.info/dash/bejne/louYypJ_iaedh6Q.html Lastly there is a guy who, in the 90s, did some groundbreaking work with guitar synth. His name is Bill Berends. His 90s band was Mastermind. Like a marriage of ELP with Rush - without keyboards! You can check him out on bandcamp: mastermind.bandcamp.com/?from=search&search_item_id=2918961409&search_item_type=b&search_match_part=%3F&search_page_id=2133809607&search_page_no=1&search_rank=1&search_sig=21311343544aabd8458e1f205cfb2dce (I recommend starting with "Brainstorm" the title track and remind yourself while listening that there are NO keyboards!) (It really is just guitar/midi guitar, bass & drums!!) (Sorry for the l o n g comment. It's just who I am!)

@robm3569

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Steve Morse ~ Dixie Dregs, The Dregs, Steve Morse Band, Deep Purple, Kansas and Flying Colors. Amazing guitarist! Voted best overall guitarist 10 years in a row by Guitar Player magazine (after ten years one become ineligible). Cool vid Andy, check out Steve Morse and start with the What If album, Dixie Dregs.

@drphelps9017

Жыл бұрын

Steve Morse - right. IMHO the greatest.

Supper, I had similar experience with ‘my man’ a song my dad introduced to me. Love leister, love Webster, Mulligan/Baker

Starting with Francis Dunnery, great choice , ending with Steve Howe, ...including Zappa, Robert Fripp. Holdsworth ... good choices ... OK , Jimi, Eddie, and Andy Summers I guess I would have added on my list ... Your videos are always fun and educating ...

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Is Alex Lifeson the ELP of this list? ;)

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

Ha Ha....he was definitely the best guitarist ELP

@elecrocity

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer It makes your lists more exciting. Which obvious choice will Mr Edwards leave off by mistake? Haha.

@ericmckayrq

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Great top 3

Lots of folks are complaining about the omission of Alex Lifeson from this list, and they are right. And I would take this a step further: Rush's real legacy is not with subsequent developments in prog, but rather what came to be known as "extreme metal." Without Rush, you get no Metallica, Slayer, Emperor, or Opeth, etc. etc. etc., at least not as we know them. Around the time of Hemispheres thru Moving Pictures, Lifeson planed down his guitar style into metrical arpeggios and square-edged riffs that left any bloozy-woozy-type bell bottom headband-wearing posturing far behind. His playing on those records was the sound of the future. Not to mention a solo like the one on "Freewill" is one of the most wacko things any guitarist ever got onto mainstream rock radio.

I agree with much of this list. My #1 would be a tie between Steve Hackett and... Andy Latimer. "Ice" is one of my favorite solos of all time! Also, I would add Roine Stolt. And maybe Joop van Nimwegen.

With your definition of a "prog" guitarist being a bit too broad for my taste (containing Steve Vai and Jimi), then I would have to put John McGlaughlin as #1 as his work with Miles, Tony Williams, MO is way above the standard set by any mentioned in your list. Loved the video and have rediscovered some music that I haven't listened to years. That's the best part of these kind of lists is being introduced to something new or forgotten.

You turned me on to Francis Dunnery. For this I thank you. My first Allan Holdsworth album was the CTI release, "Velvet Darkness." I almost threw my guitar out of the window. I have always been a huge fan of Frank Zappa. "Zoot Allures," "Black Napkins," and "Watermelon for Easter Hay" are all beautiful and, dare I say, progressive.

Great vid thanks. Of course nobody could agree who should be on this list... however, for me Gary Green is just ahead of Stevie Hillside Village ie number one. Yes he was blues based too but as you say, so was Hendrix. In the early 70's we didn't differentiate much between heavy rock, space rock, prog rock etc. A great favourite of mine who took bluesy playing to a psychedelic level was Tony McPhee. "Split" is a masterpiece. I have never seen a guitarist use so many pedals and effects (use them well, that is) as Mr Groundhog apart from Steve Hillage.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

For me a like Gary's playing but I love Steve Hillage's. He has such an identifiable sound

1. Steve Hackett 2. Frank Zappa 3. JanAkkerman 4. Henry Kaiser 5. Robert Fripp 6. Adrian Belew 7. Fred Frith 8. Allan Holdsworth 9. Steve Vai 10. Steve Hillage

They're all great. Crazy, kids. Peace on earth.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

In the end...yes..it's true...even Flat Tire....

Funny. Robert Fripp and Steve Howe are the reason I started to play guitar. That was in 1981.

My top 5,1. Andrew latimer,2 Steve howe,3 Alex lifelong,4.steve Hackett, 5,David Gilmore, I have t have latimer there so many brilliant live and studio moments

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

all very conservative choices there...Hackett and Howe probably being the most groundbreaking

Definitely agree with howe being on top. Glad to see Fripp and Hackett up there also. Alex Lifeson deserves a place on the list, very innovative.

No Alex Lifeson? He and Howe were constantly fighting it out at the top of guitar magazine polls in the early to mid-eighties.

Your top 3 are perfect.

Don't forget Rush's Alex Lifeson

This is, for me, is much like your top ten prog drummer list. I am not a guitarist, just a prog rock fan since the ‘70s. And while I do not care about the bulk of your list, I am in complete agreement with your top 3, in that order. For Yes to have had Steve Howe, Bill Bruford, Chris Squire, and Rick Wakeman in the same band is mind-blowing. Nothing like that will ever occur again. Ever.

@edljnehan2811

9 ай бұрын

Oh yes they were called Emerson Lake and Palmer😮

Great list. And understandable why you didn't include certain great names. It's always a matter of criteria... But I have to mention a guitarist that also 'misfits' the list, because he's very Blues/Rock based with his licks and scales...Martin Barre, what a great song serving Player.

I definitely agree with Howe and Fripp. Glad to see Jan Akkerman, as well. One of the unsung great guitarists and bassists, IMHO, is Greg Lake. It took real chops to keep up with Keith Emerson. Lake and Fripp both studied under the same guitar teacher.

I think that Guthrie Govan can qualify as a prog guitarist 🤔 and for the past 15 years he has been hugely influential. Erotic Cakes is a prog album.

A great list of guitarists . With respect to your number one pick , I remember Bill Bruford saying that where Yes were going with their music , they needed a small orchestra . He said that when you add Rick Wakeman to Steve Howe , you basically have a small orchestra . I didn’t impose any parameters ( like influence on other players for example ) on my list , I picked guitarists whose playing I liked , and that I loved to watch live . Like you , I believe Jimi to be in a universe of his own , so he’s not on the list ( he’s my favourite ) . In no particular order : Martin Barre , ( who I saw many times with Tull , and saw him a year and a half ago , completely unshackled with his own band ) He ‘s great , and just keeps getting better . Steve Howe Robert Fripp Andrew Latimer Frank Zappa Steve Hackett Bill Nelson ( love his fluid playing ) Adrian Belew Alex Lifeson David Gilmour Thanks !

I've got FZ ahead of Hackett, and I can never choose between Fripp & Howe! They had more to do with the modern invention of guitar as lead instrument. The Yes Album and Lark's Tongues in Aspic are groundbreaking.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

If it was list of great guitarists he would be.

Holdsworth might be the only guitarist on this list who never did any blues wailing. Even Fripp's solo on Eno's "Baby's On Fire" is mostly just a pentatonic blues workout.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

He does play quite a bit of pentatonic and blues stuff, especially in the early days

@Emlizardo

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Ah, I have some homework to do. I'm really only familiar with Holdsworth from I.O.U onward, and a bit of UK.

I'd also put Fripp in No.1 because of his longevity and constant reinventiveness. But, I LOVE Steve Howe as well. Good to see Adrian Belew in there too. He IS the guitarist who is consistently overlooked and, yet, his inventiveness and uniqueness is unquestionable. I wouldn't have included Frank Zappa or Steve Vai but perhaps included other, more worthy Prog guitarists.

You missed: -Tony Williams -Lenny White -Kirk Covington -Dennis Chambers -Terry Bozzio Honorable mention for an innovative jazzy drummer: -Roy “Futureman” Wooten

My "full" top list would be: 1) Steve Howe 2) Jimi Hendrix 3) Robert Fripp 4) Steve Hackett 5) Frank Zappa 6) Andy Summers 7) Eric Johnson 8) Allan Holdsworth 9) Adrian Belew 10) David Gilmour 11) Andrew Latimer 12) Al DiMeola 13) Jan Akkerman 14) Steve Hillage 15) Alex Lifeson Honorable mentions: Roine Stolt, Martin Barre, John Petrucci, Steve Lukather, Steve Morse, Kerry Livgren, Steve Vai, Jeff Beck, Francis Dunnery, John McLaughlin, Frank Gambale, Carlos Santana, Omar Rodríguez-López, Paul Gilbert, Uli Jon Roth, Plini, John Frusciante, Steve Rothery, Steven Wilson, Todd Rundgren, Devin Townsend, Mick Box, Jimmy Page, Alan Morse, Misha Mansoor, Ed Wynne, Prince, John Scofield, Scott Henderson, Katsuhiko Maeda, Kaki King, Larry Carlton, Bill Frisell, Chris Poland, Tony McAlpine, Brett Garsed, Phil Miller, Neal Schon, Trey Anastasio, Matt Bellamy, Trey Gunn, Jonny Greenwood, Phil Manzanera, Steve Stevens, Greg Howe, Warren Cuccurullo, Mike Keneally, Joe Satriani, Tosin Abasi, Richie Kotzen, Paul Gilbert, Robby Krieger and Guthrie Govan.

8:45 this is so interesting because prog rock is really so hard to define. Hendrix was definitely prog, and it's very hard to not include Brian May as a prog player... the bloke pushed boundry after boundry on the instrument circa 73-79 (Death on Two Legs, Phrophet's Song etc etc), particularly in the way guitars were recorded and multi-layered on record. One of the few players you can tell instantly from the sound he makes and as unique as any singinig voice.

My Top John Petrucci Steve Morse Allan Holdsworth Robert Fripp Steve Howe Steve Hackket Roine Stolt David Gilmour Steve Hillage Al diMeola Frank Zappa Corrado Rustici Jan Akkerman Franco Mussida Alex Lifeson Adrian Belew

You have to put Petrucci in a prog top ten guitarist list. He’d be number one so can see why he’s left out. Top 5 anyway.

I always thought Bowie’s Lodger is so dripping with Belew it should be considered a calaboration album and not just a “Bowie” album.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

2 жыл бұрын

He has done some incredible things

@ericmckayrq

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer absolutely! the track “Station to Station” is a through composed 8 minute proggy epic with a killer lumbering groove, the title track on “blackstar” very proggy too. Thought he kind of invented new wave on “Low” in 76, he made a super catchy Orwellian disco funk song with “1984” ...his discography taken as a whole is fascinating and filled with moments of genius and constant progression/evolution

in love with progrock since i was 13 nary a times I had troubles with mates who adored page, clapton and hendrix, who never did it for me, and howie was and still is way ahead of the game, and the album tales from the topography of oceans still is the most complex rock album of all times, bar none

So glad to see Jan Akkerman, Steve Hillage (father of "liquid guitar") on the list. Steve Howe was great even in Tomorrow. I've seen close up video of him playing one melody with his pick while he is playing another one with his other fingers on the same hand! One I think you missed is Ed Wynne of Ozric Tentacles. It doesn't get any proggier than him, in my opinion.

I was so prepared to grab a bucket of rotten tomatoes and start chucking them at my TV (as I do with most other "Top 10" videos), but by the end I found myself giving you a standing ovation. I agree Hendrix is too Godlike to be categorized and that Holdsworth ain't far behind. That being said I think you really covered all the most deserving guitarists and ordered them as I probably would have. Cheers! 👽✌️

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Frank