What do you think about Santiago 🤔

@jaylenbutler899

Жыл бұрын

He's a faker!

@donaldtrumpling2016

Жыл бұрын

Unfunny

@Iazibones

Жыл бұрын

How the hell did you post this comment 12 minutes before this video was uploaded

@LowTierMarston

Жыл бұрын

Veri kewl

@Orangeco79

Жыл бұрын

B

The Fact Santiago made someone recover completely from their Amnesia is more wholesome and better then any JRPG Amnesia storyline combined

@lpfan4491

Жыл бұрын

Memes are the strongest force in the multiverse.

@Jotillit

Жыл бұрын

@@lpfan4491 Memes, the dna of the soul

@LannyLeArtist

Жыл бұрын

@@lpfan4491 true

@beargreen1

Жыл бұрын

Santiago saved a life that day

@theonlybilge

Жыл бұрын

You don't capitalise amnesia.

The first thing I imagined when I heard the name was Sonic on a ruined city road, looking up at a Hedgehog on top of a building with purple fur, unruly quills, a large hat and shark teeth saying, "Don't you know? I'm Santiago... and I'm about to become the Fastest Thing Alive..."

@ATHBizarre

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know why this is so funny to me

@UnlimitedTroubles

Жыл бұрын

DaRkNeSs InSiDe

@littleo4844

Жыл бұрын

With A Sombrero And a Mexican accent

@johnmcmarston7926

Жыл бұрын

Nothing personnel kid

@shroomfruit345

Жыл бұрын

Mexican Terios

I never expected we’d be talking about sonics color again after the arms thing and yet, here we are.

@ayrtonjoga

Жыл бұрын

First the green eyes, then the longer quills, then the blue arms, and now his color I wonder what's next, his gloves?

@DToTheB

Жыл бұрын

@@ayrtonjoga eyes, quills, shoes, legs, arm color, body color, voice, eye shape, yeah seems that gloves is next

@najadamu2724

Жыл бұрын

@@ayrtonjoga His shoes

@mediamuncher6982

Жыл бұрын

I don't u should mind it as long as know one is getting hurt.

@mediamuncher6982

Жыл бұрын

​@@ayrtonjoga I don't see a problem it's ok to talk about designs people should not be scared to talk about that as long! No one is getting hurt or causing drama. But I really don't see the problem even if it's minor dude.

The most involved members of the Sonic fan base generally tend to skew younger, so it makes sense for young teens who may not have developed the capability to process and respond to disagreements maturely or respectfully to lash out at something as absurd as Santiago. As a side note: the meme did start getting old. Glad it fizzled out a bit over time.

@littenfire3563

Жыл бұрын

Or you can be an adult who's young at heart

@EpicTails

Жыл бұрын

it's funny because santiago impostor like among us

@Vulnresati

Жыл бұрын

@@EpicTails OH that is funny!

@BBWahoo

Жыл бұрын

Young teens were the ones sharing the santiago meme though, sonic fans regardless of age are going to shit on each other tbh

@apersoniguess_

Жыл бұрын

@@EpicTails oh my God why

The biggest imposter is LS Mark, who does an uncanny impression of Splash Dash's voice 🕵‍♂

@hiddenflare6169

Жыл бұрын

I’m worried now, Splash here is saying he’s using Mark’s twitter to share his opinion. Geez that’s a bit dangerous.

@ILovedBasedTakes

Жыл бұрын

Or mabye… there the same person DUN DUN DUN

@DeepWeeb

Жыл бұрын

@@ILovedBasedTakes Nah, that's impossible

@RandomHans

Жыл бұрын

@@ILovedBasedTakes Nah man they're just friends bro.

@ILovedBasedTakes

Жыл бұрын

@@RandomHans are you sure about that???

Could you imagine being the family in that situation, you are trying desperately to make your son remember who they are and nothing is working you play music show pictures and memories and tell them stories but nothing works. And then boom some little kid is playing with a Sonic toy and it all comes back, I'd be happy my family member remembers again but I'd be pissed that none of the loving memories mattered all that mattered was fucking sonic lmao

@shinyagumon7015

Жыл бұрын

Tbf I would say that the Santiago meme acted more as a trigger here than an important memory. Like jump starting the brain.

@kauanjos3199

Жыл бұрын

Everything: i sleep Santiago: *REAL SH*T?*

8:15 Ironically after the story trailer dropped and during Gamescom, the playable demo glitched, allowing people to see cutscenes and characters unannounced.

@ashuraomega7113

Жыл бұрын

Best thing to ever happen.

@I_hate_errors

Жыл бұрын

That how you know it going SO great

@aigeneratedwauigi2696

Жыл бұрын

That was more of a story trailer than the real trailer ever was

Santiago actually saving someone’s life is a story I didn’t know I needed until I got it.

@supper_e1823

Жыл бұрын

Same

Everyone deserves a second chance, even Santiago. Sure he may be a raging Demon, but he saved someone's life and that counts for something.

@BBWahoo

Жыл бұрын

He saved Hitlers life.

@BatMane95

Жыл бұрын

@@BBWahoo Santiago doesn't know that

@mr_indie_fan

Жыл бұрын

Now I want to see Coldsteel get a redemption arc on deviantart

@NiCoNiCoNiCola

Жыл бұрын

Literally plot of Shadow's story in Sonic Adventure 2, but in reverse

@SonicTheIPHog

Жыл бұрын

Yo

Personally, I like the Classic Sonic design in generations. It does a good job at taking a 2d character and bringing them to third dimension. My issue are the people who cry and get angry at you if you have one small problem with it no matter how small it is.

@PancakebatterLuigi

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but his name is still Santiago and he will wear it like a badge of honor since he saved someone.

@honeydoodle5026

Жыл бұрын

If he was a different color, I would like the design too...

@MegaMet98

Жыл бұрын

Aside from sky blue color, he also a subtle design that was seen in the 3D renders (with the exception of Sonic Racing) but it's missing in most 2D artworks. Which is likely responsible to the confusion. That subtle design element being a hybrid of both regional artworks from the 90s, wish it was emphasize way more to distance his design from Sonic's original design (pre-1998 redesign).

@exceedexceed760

Жыл бұрын

@@PancakebatterLuigi true dat

@tikimillie

Жыл бұрын

Honestly i dont think he at all looks like the sonic from the early games

that single classic sonic model from sonic forces definitely set the sonic community back 10 years

@Laekith

Жыл бұрын

It's the same as Generations

@christosdoesthings

Жыл бұрын

@@Laekith weirdly enough, the (in game) model from generations is actually coloured darker, his colour resembles the sonic 1 sprites.

@Laekith

Жыл бұрын

@@christosdoesthings yeah the texture's different but the model is the same

@OneAndOnlyDanky

Жыл бұрын

I mean it definitely set the series back 10 years considering they’re still bringing back green hill zone

@SurfRay

Жыл бұрын

you most likely mean the render of him yeah it's goofy af

You got to love how all the witnesses have a hint of Irish in them.

I think being able to criticize something is obviously important for anything, really. There comes a point, though, where being critical ruins the enjoyment and/or hilarity of the discussion and the thing being criticized itself. That point comes along a lot faster if the parties involved can’t take a joke, or if they can’t handle negativity. That being said, I am a firm believer that negativity really doesn’t help criticism in general as much as the general gaming community thinks it does. But hey, that’s just me.

@junglezone7323

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you on that. Theres been this wave lately of people thinking that criticism equals constant negativity but thats only one portion of actually critiquing something. You talk about the negatives, the positives, and things you think would improve the product. THAT is actual criticism

@BBWahoo

Жыл бұрын

Thank goodness there's a fine line between constructive criticism and destructive negativity.

@jomaq9233

Жыл бұрын

There’s also this belief where if you don’t like how overly negative someone is about a certain game, then you’re just an “oversensitive fanboy with bad taste”

@theonlybilge

Жыл бұрын

If something doesn't have anything to praise, you can only really be negative about it.

@valurkurianprivateinvestig8822

Жыл бұрын

@@theonlybilge or just don’t say anything at all, especially if it’s something you aren’t interested in. I know people wanna feel like they’re contributing their piece, I totally get that. But there is a difference between contribution and… whatever the other thing is lol. Unless it’s furries. Nothing good there 😂

Friendly reminder that we still need to watch out for Josh. He’s what started all this madness and hasn’t saved anyone’s life yet. Investigations for Yoshi are still on-going.

@alicev1500

Жыл бұрын

Not only that but he has framed an innocent dinosaur for tax fraud😭

@Vitenoxi

Жыл бұрын

Josh saved my life! :^D -(H E L P I A M T R A P P E D I N H I S B A S E M E N T)-

the fact that santiago saved a life is just amazing

Santiago lived long enough to see himself become a...hero?

@modmaker7617

Жыл бұрын

"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself to become the villain." Joker 2008

@DoomSlayer-gj8qb

7 ай бұрын

If you’re a hero and you live long enough you become a villain If you’re a villain and live long enough you become a hero.

@jamiegioca9448

3 ай бұрын

​@@modmaker7617 or you just be the villain, kill all the heroes and still be the villain.

@IceLad_

3 күн бұрын

Santiago went into his megamind arc

Damnit even Splash Dash uses “impostEr” instead of “impostOr”

@avcables_

Жыл бұрын

It is impostEr.

@piranhalettuce

Жыл бұрын

The impostor from that one game

@ryanr27

Жыл бұрын

@@avcables_ if you mean how Among Us spells it, it’s “ImpostOr”

@avcables_

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanr27 no I’m talking about the correct spelling

@ryanr27

Жыл бұрын

@@avcables_ It is “Impostor”, that’s the correct spelling

Personally I'm ok with Classic Sonic being more cute than regular Sonic, but only if he still embodies his character and not like the current games make him just this completely bland character. Like Classic Sonic should be even more cocky than modern Sonic.

It wont be a surprise for me if Santiago gets a reference on a new Sonic comic or movie

@ToaArcan

Жыл бұрын

It'll be like the other memes that ascended, turning up about three years late to the party and three years before it gets revived.

the tale of splash dash's imposter - ls mark

I think the thing about the whole debate around Santiago, is that I hope there still some people who follow the whole "don't judge a book by its cover". I don't hate people who have discussions about things like this, but I feel like it gets to the point where there's no way to understand what makes something a good design, and if your a creator of a form of media, it can be hard to understand your fanbase. That's not to say I feel like people should hate the Santiago meme or be rude to to anyone who nitpicks, admittedly I don't understand why it always has to involve bullying over a design. But I cant blame them either, because I fully understand how they feel. Overall I feel both sides are pretty bad in a way. Edit: with the "She-Hulk" CGI, I did (only) agree with the whole idea that it can switch to uncanny and then back to normal again while others think it's bad everywhere. It's fine if you don't agree with me, and we can just find each other interesting. Again there's some form of me that doesn't *usually* care about debates like this, I just don't want it to turn toxic. Its the same with Thanos CGI controversy. Just felt the need to say that. Edit2: SPLASH DASH SENPAI NOTICED ME 😳 Edit3: Fuck, after Splash Dash hearted my comment, I edited my comment and his heart went away ):

@lucasgamerbr2774

Жыл бұрын

Lol

Fun Fact: The name Santiago translates to Latin as "Saint James" and the name itself is from Spanish and Hebrew origins. Considering that this meme saved the creators life, "Saint James" turned out to be pretty fitting. Also I though this was going to be another .exe lmao

I remember seeing SOOO many people online think Santiago was literally just about the color of the fur, and honestly, that's never bothered me. I just hate how short and pudgy Generations Sonic looks. Compared to his artwork in Sonic CD and such, he definitely gives off a very different vibe, and I don't like that. I also think they tried too hard to make him look classic and different. He has enough differences in his normal classic design that they didn't need to exaggerate his pudginess. And another thing I don't see people mention is that Robotnik looks absolutely terrible in Generations. Like it's downright awful. They tried so hard to make him look classic that he barely even looks like a real person. Ideally, imo, they should've based him off of modern Eggman. With subtle changes like less angry eyes, a rounder body, and thinner clothes. But the result we get is a guy who doesn't look like he would turn into Modern Eggman at all. Most characters in the classic artstyle would work well in the modern artstyle, even if they were virtually unchanged. Which is why them making so many small changes to Sonic added up. And it's why it's so upsetting to me that they didn't even bother to change the one character that could've really used an upgrade (Eggman). Generations Classic Sonic, while annoying, isn't that big of a deal. I found Santiago really funny because it took legitimate criticisms I had with the design and demonized a fake character based on them. But ultimately do I care that he looks like that? Not really. It's annoying, but just like Modern Yoshi's design, I'll deal with it. But Generations Robotnik? No. He's an attrocity.

I think they wanted to base the Generations designs on the Sonic 1/2 sprites. I personally don't like it cause he looks too round and "friendly"

@TechBlade9000

Жыл бұрын

Funny too since Sonic the Fighters already solved 3d Classic Sonic, and Tails, and many others

@Laekith

Жыл бұрын

@@TechBlade9000 yeah, the Saturn/Sonic 3 design is what they should've went with

@christosdoesthings

Жыл бұрын

@@Laekith the thing is, the sonic 1 and 2 design is the more iconic one. Sega wouldnt really care which one the fans prefer, just the one that is more marketable towards a casual audience.

@Laekith

Жыл бұрын

@@christosdoesthings yeah it's the most recognizable to casuals, I get why they did it, but as a fan I don't care for it

@ashuraomega7113

Жыл бұрын

And they didn't give him a voice too like that was just so damning. Honestly if the guy who voiced Sonic in Satam was still around back then they should have hired him to voice Sonic.

About the fandom being unavailable to discuss, the reused levels for the Cyberspace zones topic rings a bell to me. I commented on a video that despite everything, the cyberspace recycling sucks. And people got mad at me, like geeez I know is just a bit from the game and that the real focus are the open area with grass but still, it baffles me how my first impression about something is capable of pissing people

@Ronan34753

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think those fans are just trying to suppress others. They know it's crap, they know it's not acceptable, but they don't want to have to acknowledge it. The worst part is the older fans with a large platform are essentially protecting them, just so they can continue to moan about the 2000s fans. All I'll say about these fans that are going around suppressing more critical fans, they have no right to EVER crap on the 2000s games ever again (even the bad games). For all the garbage I've seen them excuse in the past two years (with Colors Ultimate, Origins and now Frontiers). I do not want to EVER see them moan about those 2000s games ever again. Those apologists have lost the right to be taken seriously. Proving they do NOT care about quality.

I found Santiago really funny. I didn't think that people didn't like it. Maybe it's cuz i saw it on yt and not twitter. Those guys have like no filter, kinda sad most content creators neeed it to talk with their community Also he saved a life whjat the f

I remember when the fans used to discuss alot of how sonic's quills are shorter then they used to be in a negative way Did i thought it was silly? Yes Did i stab them in the chest with a threat to stop immediately because of something so minor? ...NO

Santiago saved someone's life. It's a good thing now.

As a guy named santiago, I don't know how I feel.

@LannyLeArtist

Жыл бұрын

💀

That Santiago coma story goes very hard ngl.

Imagine being such a toxic fan base that you turn a meme into a debate.

@mkthemc

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@LannyLeArtist

Жыл бұрын

💀

@mr_indie_fan

Жыл бұрын

The sonic fan base isn't toxic, twitter is.

I Think one of the reasons why Classic Sonic looks more cutsie is to separate the 2 thing about Classic Sonic. He was adoarble but cool at the same time. So the Way i see it Classic Sonic represent the cute side of Sonic and Modern Sonic represent the cool side of Sonic. Or maybe it just cause Sega dont Care but maybe

@GDRunny

Жыл бұрын

I do think that might've been where they were going with it as well, but like alot of things in my life forces ruined it by keeping the model the same

@kirbo4252

Жыл бұрын

@@GDRunny I like to learn more about how forces ruined your life, did they like ruin your marriage?

@GDRunny

Жыл бұрын

@@kirbo4252 they kept Santiago and wife left

9:33 this whole thing just makes me imagine that death note scene where Light gets his memory back by touching the death note

Santiago made me realize that Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic aren't that differents.

The Sonic Unleashed night time music is perfect for a classy murder mystery XD

Santiago is reason why our whole Universe have conflicts

Your take on frontiers later on in the video was great, watched your reaction to the trailer live and I have to agree, the story trailer has minimal to no story

This is certainly another splash dash video, definitely one of the KZread channels ever conceived

I’m strongly convinced that 70-80% of Sonic fans have their standards set so high, that they don’t even know what makes a Sonic game good anymore.

Literally had no idea who Santiago was until now but I got say, he is one interesting man

Loved how Mark (Certainly not you) managed to get the fandom upset with one tweet. (I already quite a lot of things there is to see in frontiers but even then, I don't have enough time in my day to get annoyed over a tweet.)

I am filling a lawsuit cause you gave me a heart attack with this video.

I love this meme💀

This defensive behavior not only happens with Sonic, I have received similar responses to comments I made, sometimes not even stuff as minor as a slight redesign; I once complained about a game getting day one dlc and a couple of people got defensive because it wasn't a lot of content being locked behind a paywall, as if that somehow makes it okay to cut content from a game to sell it separately.

GUYS GUYS GUYS! AT THE LAST BOSS FIGHT IN FRONTIERS, SONIC REALIZES HE CAN'T WIN AND SAYS, "Gah! I can't win without... Myself!" And then Classic Sonic comes out. And they both makeout. THE END

@koolam6914

Жыл бұрын

NO FUCKING WAY

@mysteriousnewdude6491

Жыл бұрын

WtF?!

@jamiegioca9448

Ай бұрын

That's so goddamn autophiliac

As somebody named Santiago, I do get constantly get charged with identity fraud.

[Detective enters the scene. Walking into a common low-end bar. A great place for drinks and trouble. He sits down, taking in his surroundings. Feeling a small mount of melancholy of this familiar building] "Heh, Green Hill is looking a lot more like Sand Hill now."

9:47 “Santiago saved a life that day. I think that’s important to remember” Why is that funny?!

Didn’t classic sonic show up in the Archie comics in 2009? Or are we just talking about the main canon

8:24 not only is this “controversy” a super funny joke, but now I think you just gave us a new reaction image!!

I like this channels videos, not only do they feel different to his friends videos but they’re very enjoyable because I’ve always been a sonic fan even if the games aren’t good. The good and bad of these discussions reminds me of why I’m a sonic fan

I like how the one thing that cured their amnesia, was a meme they made a year or two ago

8:50 Ngl, personally, hearing about how the fanbase doesn't like criticism always seems baffling to me, since everywhere I go, I often see or hear more people dumping on the series, especially within the fanbase itself, than defending it.

@ovite1240

Жыл бұрын

Both sides exist and they're both annoying, but people end up cherry picking one side and try to make the other side look worse

@GDRunny

Жыл бұрын

I feel like its mostly cause of people like game grumps who just never-endingly shit on sonic for no real reason other than they played sonic 06 that one time. Believe me though, the side that defends the games to the total extreme do exist, Im friends with one of them and they unironically are in the boat of "IGN made sonic frontiers look bad like they did with unleashed"

I have literally recieved personal insults online about my irl appearance for pointing out minor things im not too fond off about Sonic Frontiers, this fanbase has gotten to all new levels of defensive recently.

@MegaGlassguy

Жыл бұрын

Ironically those fans are making me even more skeptical about the game because what they fail to realize is that most excuses they're making are the same ones they used before Forces launched. Talk about setting red flags.

Keep in mind generations was a time paradox. In forces its almost like they treat classic sonic as a whole separate character. 🤨

@TokyoDrift456

Жыл бұрын

Multiverse theory's a bitch

I have a Santiago plush from Walmart, it looks like it’s trying to look like Sonic, yet ultimately fails by looking like an image converted into a plushie with “hedgehog quills” that stick out from the side of his head. He’s locked up in my closet as of now Edit: after hearing he saved someone’s life I let him out

I genuinely feel like Amy would say that in an interview

One of my favorite memes, thanks for this.

Apparently Sega might be making this a canon character, since in the old version of sonic speed simulator, there was a message under the bridge that said “santiago is gone”. (Or it’s just for the memes)

I think people on Twitter are just insane in general.

@UltraCenterHQ

Жыл бұрын

They even insulted Annie Frank because "she was white" 💀

When Generations was released, they announced Classic Sonic, inspired by the 90's design The thing is that Classic Sonic from Gens is different from the Classic Sonic from the 90's Most of the examples are that Gens Classic has a lighter shade of blue, the 3D models are inaccurate to the og design and has no charisma, he acts cute when the OG Classic never did as much, he doesnt talk while OG Classic did. This has been for a while but the Santiago meme is the peak, idk how it started but its a clear critic saying Gens Classic is not OG Classic, saying he is.... god dammit I cant belive Im gonna say it, an impostor , and his true name is Santiago and he replaced the true OG Classic Soni

Yay, a new Splash Dash video!!!

Imagine looking at just a Classic Sonic figure & being like it's all coming back to me that meme I made my life I remember everything now

You will never catch me.

@torquesdumper

Жыл бұрын

I caught you, you're in my heart and I love you.

@lpfan4491

Жыл бұрын

You're not a criminal tho, you were framed.

I Think Santiago Is Classic Sonic But A New Design

The fact santiago made everything come back sort of makes it seem like making a meme was the peak of his life

A truly intriguing bit of information...

The thing that irks me about the Eggman logo thing was...honestly...the phrasing of the tweet. "wow, there's no way they screwed up that badly" I and many others looked at the picture and went "...I don't get it, what's the issue?". We literally had to be told what the issue was. At that point, why make a big deal out of it? Like, if the person had said something like "Anyone else noticed that Origins used the wrong logo?", or "They used the wrong Eggman logo in Origins lmao", I wouldn't have been all that bothered. But they seemingly made it seem like a big deal, which...was it? Was it _really?_ As much as I couldn't care less about Classic Sonic design debates (both because I'm not all that well versed in character design, and because... I just didn't really care), I could at least see where people are coming from. But this just seemed like a genuinely needless nitpick. To be clear, I don't think that the person who made the tweet was going out of their way to be malicious or anything of the sort. I just think that either: A) They made a mountain out of a molehill in the heat of the moment, or B) They wanted to bring attention to a minor mistake and just made a goof up in their wording.

Damn bro, a sonic meme brought someone's memory back

Sonic literally changed colours during the events of the first 3-4 games.

First thing I thought of when I saw the "dont fall for his lies" was another one of them with a alleged Yoshi imposter called Josh. Really peaked me when I saw a similar thing happening here.

Ironically, the renders that people complain about use a completely different model compared to what you see in the game itself

Grate video, but I do have one nitpick. though. Santiago is more of a cyan then a lighter shade of blue/indigo. While cyan looks like a lighter blue, it's a completely different hue on the color wheel. it's kind of the equivalent of saying yellow is a lighter shade of orange. like I said, it's a nitpick bit I just wanted to point that out.

I’ve never heard of this meme until this video. Although I have encountered fans saying that the Classic Sonic 3D model looks a bit iffy on occasion though.

Hello Mr. youtuber, idk if you'll see this, but I just wanted to say I think this is the 2nd video of yours I've come across. The first time, I was driving and listening, so I didn't leave a comment, but for 1, I wanted to say you make great content, well edited and scripted. And 2nd, you sound like lsMark lol. I hope to see you grow more :)

Not a bad discussion, but I do think this was at least a little one-sided. While I agree Santiago just existing has made the more "optimistic" side of the fandom way more defensive and short-tempered, I can't help but notice you've neglected to talk about how it's affected the "pessimistic" side's train of thought as well. A fair amount of fans on the Santiago gravy train I've seen to be quite pretentious. I remember a Twitter user recently made a Gens Classic Sonic appreciation post - which wasn't made to push any message or agenda, or target any group of fans in particular - and their replies got absolutely swamped with the meme, usually with the caption "He tricked you!" They found it quite disheartening, especially since it kept happening after their request to stop posting the meme in the replies. Jinjin quote tweeted the post as well, but pretty sure he only did so just to take in how well his meme had spread, rather than telling people to stop annoying them. Take that for what you will. There's also a tweet from SNick, reading: "Santiago is an in-genuine Sonic, the one that's driven by the sole purpose of corporate nostalgia and nothing more, passion being sacrificed for that of greed." I mean, you can critique the design and its appearances all you want, but it's just so hyperbolic, way too dramatised. Again, take that for what you will. I feel there's also a point to be made about condensing design or writing issues into end-all terms, like "Mary Sue", "CalArts", or, to use another Sonic-based example, "momentum", where the term is repeated so often, that it eventually loses its meaning and turns from *constructive* to *destructive.* It ends up making people more close-minded about the media they consume and disregarding the developers' intentions, while it can also be confusing or pressuring for fans who just want to have peaceful discussions about the thing they like. Well, that's my 2 cents on the whole thing. I have nothing else to add lol.

Sonic fans must have allot of free time

"I FOUND YOU, FAKER!" "Faker? I think YOU'RE the fake hedgehog around here! YOU comparing yourself to ME? HA!! you're not even good enough to be my fake!" "I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THESE WORDS!!!!"

I saw a similar meme but with keeby and yellow kirby, since keeby hadnt made an apperance for a long time

SplashDash you better watch your back, cause Santiago does not like when he's critized/bothered! Also, he's genius when it comes by making massacres without leaving a trace of their victims!

i just hate that it always has to be this big drama. taking that eggman logo example, yeah its a funny little oversight but the tweet pointing it out says "theres no way they fucked up this hard" as if it's this major blight that ruins the entire package. yeah nitpick, point out flaws, but like everyone on every "side" needs to just chill

If that amnesia story is true, then that had to be the most cathartic experience in the world for the creator.

Santiago has done one good thing. maybe we were wrong about him. He's a changed hedgehog

Personally I don’t really care about the changes with classic sonic I mean (Santiago) since it’s just a few changes to the designs like the changes aren’t that major for people needing to complain about. I been a sonic fan since adventure 2 while also playing the classic games and modern games and I personally have no issue with the update of classic sonic.

...How did I not notice you were Mark until that Story Trailer response bit?! Anyway, I'm glad Santiago's father made it out of the crash and it is so weirdly wholesome to have his memories come back that way. Seriously, I couldn't help but smile. I hope he just deleted his Twitter for the sake of getting away from the very community both treating it as gospel AND pretending it's a hit piece so the dude can recover and have a great life. I definitely prefer Sonic's Saturn era expressiveness to what he is now, but it's still Classic Sonic at the end of the day for me, so either way it's fine.

This was quite an... Interesting watch for me to say the least.

I literally never heard of Santiago till today.

FINALLY! SD talking about the real hard hitting issues in the Sonic universe.

I’m so with you on hating the Sonic Defence Force. I saw a similar thing with people defending the fact that the Cyberspace levels are just reusing old level designs. Some of the arguments used are just pathetic, my favourite being, “it’s an optional part of the game, stop taking it seriously.”

@MegaGlassguy

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The most pathetic one I saw was someone saying it's stupid to hate someone for using the same pen every day, therefore it's stupid to hate the devs for recycling the same levels constantly. Couldn't even make a good parallel.

@kirbo4252

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Wait it uses old level design like the exact same level from previous games like sonic generations or that it uses the same art style?

@MegaGlassguy

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@@kirbo4252 It's been confirmed from the footage that several of the cyberspace levels are copy/pasted or trimmed down copies of levels from previous games. One of them is literally Sonic Generations' Green Hill but shorter and with a sunset background, another is Generations' Chemical Plant without the 2D segments and another is just Sonic Unleashed's tutorial level but with Green Hill assets, and so on. It's the laziest they've been yet in terms of recycling content.

@kirbo4252

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@@MegaGlassguy oh, then yeah that's not good

Your videos are great and your point of view on the fandom refusing any kind of critical analysis/discussion on short comings of the sonic franchise is SO fucking important I hope you're aware how needed content like yours is

couple weeks ago I (over the course of several days) watched LS Mark's 7hr every Spongebob episode video and then left his channel forgetting it existed (sorry) then coming across this video and realizing they're the same people was a bit of a brain blast moment to say the least

kinda glad you brought up the issue with sonic fans being defensive since its been hell ever since frontiers due to them defending the shit out of it

For the modern Eggman symbol bit I saw it more as "Lol Robotnik is experimenting with designs". Like maybe he liked it so much he styled his look after that in the Adventure games.

Classic Sonic's color in Generations wouldn't be nearly as jarring if Tails was a darker shade of orange like his classic counterpart.

@kirbo4252

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To be fair I think that was only the western version of tails

My theory is Santiago is Sonic's Nobody.

For me personally the design details are so minuscule that I don’t think either version of classic sonic is better or worse

the creator of the meme made a post on his youtube channel the other day saying he was distancing himself from social platforms because of his baby being due soon and needing to prepare for fatherhood so yeah hes alright he just has a lot of responsibility he needs to prepare for

@GiffanyCD

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oh shit FR.... that's wholesome

This is definitely not LS Mark's second channel

The problem is every discussion on Twitter ends like this.