The Surprising Truth About Palworld

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Palworld has taken over the gaming industry, and Nintendo is NOT happy about it. So what's going on with this "pokemon with guns" game? Did they use AI? Did they steal their models? Are they gonna get sued? Let's talk about it.
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  • @Diceboxx
    @Diceboxx5 ай бұрын

    Pokemon - Nobody Actually Dies Palworld - Everyone Dies

  • @nujevad28

    @nujevad28

    5 ай бұрын

    They have ghosts though, where'd they come from?

  • @Diceboxx

    @Diceboxx

    5 ай бұрын

    @@nujevad28 "Ghost Type" So technically they're alive

  • @GokuBlackRose978

    @GokuBlackRose978

    5 ай бұрын

    Also the pals are literally people who died and “reincarnated” idk the exact way they become pals, but the way u appear in palword and the first npc and logs state that this is a afterlife of some sort?

  • @ragingraichu219

    @ragingraichu219

    4 ай бұрын

    Well, death is present in Pokémon, but they tend to gloss over it at times, though they HAVE been venturing a bit more into that aspect lately.

  • @DamnDaimen

    @DamnDaimen

    4 ай бұрын

    Weirdly enough, pals you kill don't seem to be dead. They still twitch a bit and their eyes turn to swirls.

  • @theautomaticfiend
    @theautomaticfiend5 ай бұрын

    I just love seeing aaa devs get salty when indie devs make fun games.

  • @ravee-eh4dd

    @ravee-eh4dd

    5 ай бұрын

    Imagine if Palworld added story mode and cities towns in the game I’m sure in future updates this will blow a hole in the universe of gaming

  • @naganut9718

    @naganut9718

    5 ай бұрын

    They really aren't

  • @elitefdc2171

    @elitefdc2171

    5 ай бұрын

    they are tho just check naughty dog "dev"@@naganut9718

  • @theautomaticfiend

    @theautomaticfiend

    5 ай бұрын

    @@naganut9718 what, getting salty or making fun games? 800k players on bg3 then 1.8 million on palworld says the games must be fun, and aaa dev responses regarding just those two games shows them being salty.

  • @naganut9718

    @naganut9718

    5 ай бұрын

    @@theautomaticfiend no I mean I don't really see how they get mad. Nintendo isn't even the dev team, they're just publisher for Pokemon. And Gamefreak too many cash to even bother, the only reason the game was investigated by gamefreak is due to the designs because the dev can't help but plagiarize design so they can have 100+ creatures in their game

  • @Leron_T
    @Leron_T5 ай бұрын

    How come nobody call's Pokemon, "Shin Megami Tensei clone" ?

  • @syminite1

    @syminite1

    5 ай бұрын

    EXACTLY!! Megami Tensei been dropping since 1987, Pokémon didn't drop here till 1998.

  • @nicky_bobby92

    @nicky_bobby92

    5 ай бұрын

    Or a dragon quest clone

  • @farbencut

    @farbencut

    5 ай бұрын

    How come you’re supporting plagiarism

  • @rodseller9936

    @rodseller9936

    5 ай бұрын

    Final fantasy had the same thing.

  • @syminite1

    @syminite1

    5 ай бұрын

    @@farbencut U don't know the meaning of the word

  • @hotfishdev
    @hotfishdev5 ай бұрын

    “I can’t believe that a gamedev would tear down another gamedev ” First time? The drama from the H0D devs towards Elden Ring was absolutely nuts! This is basically standard for AAA devs who get scooped.

  • @hafirenggayuda

    @hafirenggayuda

    5 ай бұрын

    Or BG3, or Metroid Dread before that.

  • @mourad505

    @mourad505

    5 ай бұрын

    AAA game devs are a special kind of salty on Twitter. "Ugh, these games are too good! They're screwing up the bell curve we get graded on. That's actually bad for the industry and they shouldn't be celebrated for their achievements, they need to cut it out!" The delusion and cope...

  • @felicityc

    @felicityc

    5 ай бұрын

    idk, all those videos about 'dev hate towards elden ring' was based on like one or two statements that weren't even that bad. Was hugely overexaggerated

  • @hafirenggayuda

    @hafirenggayuda

    5 ай бұрын

    @@felicityc I remember that while only few complain, the twits got like from many other developers. Probably from there.

  • @AlibifortheAfterlife

    @AlibifortheAfterlife

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mourad505 With all the copium AAA devs are chugging lately I’m surprised there’s any supply left over for their fanboys.

  • @flashfire0375
    @flashfire03755 ай бұрын

    (I'm at about 7:30, so it might be covered) the Pokemon company put out a statement regarding (paraphrasing) "a certain game released recently". My theory is they put out that press release to say "Yes we know. Stop emailing us."

  • @joemono4727
    @joemono47274 ай бұрын

    This games uniqueness is the fact it's a mesh of existing genres, then boiled the best ingredients that made those games fun into a soup. Then gave the soup a gun. And it was delicious.

  • @FrostsorrowGaming
    @FrostsorrowGaming5 ай бұрын

    working for a software company for 20 years and learning their version control was a bunch of USB drives just kills me. lol. I just hope that their success keeps them moving in the correct direction but adopt some industry stuff to make things easier on them but never step away from the fact of making games fun for people is their main goal.

  • @jaylucino8890

    @jaylucino8890

    4 ай бұрын

    We see them as grassroots underdog team against AAA studios and it really just makes us root for them.

  • @timkom2289

    @timkom2289

    4 ай бұрын

    Even tiny "Hello world" projects cost me usually several git commits, so I don't understand, how they were able to pull it off with bucket of USB.

  • @furuthebat
    @furuthebat5 ай бұрын

    They literally use an USB (Bit)Bucket for version control. That's so funny.

  • @thomassynths

    @thomassynths

    5 ай бұрын

    And dumb

  • @RoboVenturer

    @RoboVenturer

    5 ай бұрын

    @@thomassynthsyou work with what you got, game development isn’t an awesome job at times

  • @thomassynths

    @thomassynths

    5 ай бұрын

    @@RoboVenturerI mean, how does one dev an entire working game without knowing that source control exists? Obviously it happened, but I am clueless how someone can make a polished working game without knowing git exists.

  • @americankid7782

    @americankid7782

    5 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@thomassynthsbecause most the people involved didn’t know how to make a game and apparently most didn’t know how to use Unreal Engine. Kinda makes sense to me that they have no idea how to do streamlined development.

  • @RoboVenturer

    @RoboVenturer

    5 ай бұрын

    @@thomassynths they clearly hired the right people, they go into more detail in their blog they made a few days before the game came out. Translation is a bit rough but the story is pretty cohesive and properly detailed, even if some of the details sound pretty out of there, but stranger things have happened in game development history.

  • @ThesocialmuteHD
    @ThesocialmuteHD5 ай бұрын

    The contradiction when Pokémon took inspiration from Dragonquest which was around much earlier

  • @onecrazygenius
    @onecrazygenius5 ай бұрын

    But I must defend my corporate overlords who struggle with legal representation and often arent able to act 🥰🙏🏻

  • @turkishollowcat

    @turkishollowcat

    5 ай бұрын

    Not like it has something to do with your comment but. Recently,the pokemon company deleted over 300+ comments on their most recent community post for basically 0 reasons,including one that reached 1K likes... thats an really sad situation because they are basically deleting people's opinions and its wrong. Whats your opinion on that?

  • @kellevichy

    @kellevichy

    5 ай бұрын

    Did you watch the video lmfao

  • @Kensuke0987

    @Kensuke0987

    5 ай бұрын

    @@turkishollowcat what were the comments about tho? do you have a Wayback Machine link to it?

  • @ernestomotta5178
    @ernestomotta51785 ай бұрын

    Not like anyone would buy tlou2 remaster even if palworld wasn't being released at all

  • @theorants

    @theorants

    5 ай бұрын

    The Naughty Dog falloff has been one of the saddest tragedies in gaming. They might one up Bethesda in a few years

  • @mattrs1

    @mattrs1

    5 ай бұрын

    From crash bandicoot to tlou2r... What a downfall

  • @Renoistic

    @Renoistic

    5 ай бұрын

    I didn't buy it because I already owned the original. Couldn't upgrade fast enough, though. The new game mode is pretty damn fun!

  • @NihongoWakannai
    @NihongoWakannai5 ай бұрын

    I think this game definitely is like pokemon, because no one actually cares about pokemon's gameplay. What is "pokemon" to people is the character design philsophy which is why this game blew up so much, because people have been wanting a "pokemon" game without the same repetitive game design they've been doing for so many years. The people who actually enjoy monster collecting JRPG gameplay just go play shin megami tensei. Personally I think the Palworld devs did a great job giving the *feeling* of pokemon designs without just ripping it off.

  • @peanutrule

    @peanutrule

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah I agree with you, very few people wanted the same old gameplay. People just wanted a new way to experience Pokemon , to feel more immersived in the Pokemon world Pokemon never delivered, and now palworld has provided the most immersive 'Pokemon' experience to date. I don't mind that the designs are so similar it helps me forget that I'm not playing Pokemon

  • @vodkawhisperer3923

    @vodkawhisperer3923

    5 ай бұрын

    it just looks a bit like it but its an entirely differnt genre of games. and to me pokemon is not character design philosophy, but rather its the gameplay so stop putting words in my mouth

  • @peanutrule

    @peanutrule

    5 ай бұрын

    @@vodkawhisperer3923 well. To me Pokemon was the movies I grew up watching, the games I grew up playing , I even joined on PokeGO just because I love the IP. The comp scene is cool, but I always hoped they would wow us with some new way to play, I got so excited with Arceus and then as soon as I got to scarlet I just dropped the game since it felt like a regression.

  • @midnari

    @midnari

    5 ай бұрын

    @peanutrule Then speak for yourself, not everyone else. I've enjoyed the game mechanics for over 20 years. Having an Arceus like game is fun from time to time. They spent twenty years fine tuning the RPG aspects of the game. Why the hell would they change it completely?

  • @damcmadlad2975

    @damcmadlad2975

    5 ай бұрын

    I don't know about all that I mean there is a reason why competitive Pokemon has blown up the way it has

  • @DarknessIsTheTruth
    @DarknessIsTheTruth5 ай бұрын

    I hope this turns out to be the timeline where Nintendo not only DOESN'T file a lawsuit, but allows for a Switch version of Palworld. I really want this to be a full-on success story for those devs.

  • @americankid7782

    @americankid7782

    5 ай бұрын

    I don’t think that Nintendo can sue Pocket Pair. If they could than they would have prevented this game from being released in the first place.

  • @LilyMrrgglton

    @LilyMrrgglton

    5 ай бұрын

    @@americankid7782 the mod for the game supposedly got nuked, along with anyone even showing footage of it, within an hour, so think its safe to say they would already have intervened if they had a case here

  • @americankid7782

    @americankid7782

    5 ай бұрын

    @@LilyMrrgglton oh yeah I forgot about the mod. That was really quick.

  • @ulzrintheswift715

    @ulzrintheswift715

    5 ай бұрын

    The switch can’t run palworld. It can barely run Pokémon

  • @matrich909

    @matrich909

    5 ай бұрын

    @@ulzrintheswift715 Its more of the devs at GameFreak don't know how to optimize, if Nintendo can make some of the games run on the switch like Hogwarts legacy I believe they could make PalWorld run on it but the problem will be will the devs want to spend the time on it. They more than likely wait for whatever the next Nintendo console to come out. (if nothing comes from this "investigation")

  • @Loraskd
    @Loraskd5 ай бұрын

    The Nintendo thing was likely to shut ppl up about it if Nintendo wanted to they would of hit them long before it came out

  • @avioracrown6967

    @avioracrown6967

    5 ай бұрын

    Remember the mod? They gone fast with it But not coming for the base game

  • @MrSonny6155
    @MrSonny61554 ай бұрын

    Linux as we best know it today was initially written from scratch based on someone's understanding of Unix. This was taken to court but they actually survived it precisely because it wasn't lifting any code, despite being close to an exact copy in functionality at the time.

  • @patyos2
    @patyos25 ай бұрын

    The Nintendo response could of been relating the Mods they took down.

  • @luzarrow1
    @luzarrow14 ай бұрын

    Every time the devs hit a roadblock they said "oh yeah, bet" then either went around the wall or straight through it. You love to see it

  • @Krakkk
    @Krakkk5 ай бұрын

    The guy didn't say he modified the mesh, he said he scaled it uniformly. Which is what you need to do if you want compare meshes. If I scale a mesh it doesn't make it a new one.

  • @pewpin1039

    @pewpin1039

    5 ай бұрын

    If you scale down a mesh enough, you can fit whatever into whatever. People called him out on that, because the meshes clearly did not overlap enough, he shrank it down to the point it would fit into the pokemon mesh so it would look more convincing.

  • @Krakkk

    @Krakkk

    4 ай бұрын

    @@pewpin1039 nonsense. If you scale a sphere it's not gonna became a cube

  • @pewpin1039

    @pewpin1039

    4 ай бұрын

    @@KrakkkNo, but if you scale a rectangular prism, you can fit it into a cube. And they are not the same thing either. The point people made is that he scaled them to the point where one fits into another ~ish... there were clear differences, but they got ignored because he scaled the models to the point where one fit into another, and then handwaved any difference as a coincidence.

  • @Abighairyspider121

    @Abighairyspider121

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Krakkk kzread.info/dash/bejne/jIuZpZalZZmcYbg.htmlsi=A5zoXs-uf_PBwD4V

  • @grayaj23
    @grayaj235 ай бұрын

    Based on my llmited knowledge of US copyright law, the worst that is going to happen is that a few of the Pals might be redesigned. That doesn't mean Nintendo won't sue, and it's easy to go bankrupt winning a copyright defense case. The fact Nintendo already C&D'd the pokemon mod for palworld shows that nintendo probably knew about the game prior to that. I think they'd already have taken legal action if they were going to. None of the designs fail the 'squint' test -- meaning that the differences between conflicting designs are different enough that it won't cause confusion. Different shapes in some cases, different color palettes in others -- I don't think any of the designs are infringing. If anything Pocketpal will agree to change some designs so that Nintendo can crow about an IP law "Win" to maintain their reputation.

  • @Teromi
    @Teromi5 ай бұрын

    I played Pokemon as a kid and left it far behind. I was wondering if Palworld was actually good and not just “Tik Tok” trendy vibes … glad to hear it’s actually good.

  • @Renoistic

    @Renoistic

    5 ай бұрын

    What is "Good" is very subjective. I get the feeling adults flock to this because they have wanted something that reminds them of Pokemon but isn't made for little kids. Palworld seems made for 12 year-olds but I guess that's close enough for Pokemon-adults.

  • @MorbidEel
    @MorbidEel5 ай бұрын

    8:42 if you think about it hiring people this way actually makes more sense than the more typical methods. That is assuming they went there and interacted enough to get to know the kid. Everyone one says they are passionate about this or that but it is a lot more obvious if you spend time talking to someone about things. Buckets of USB drives as version control sounds like a nightmare but also not as bad as it sounds but it depends on the details. It is turns version control into a manual process and very space inefficient. It is "save scumming" while making the games instead of while playing it.

  • @sharkt9877
    @sharkt98775 ай бұрын

    Imo it’s a fusion of legends arceus (the least Pokémon Pokémon game. And one that went in the right direction imo) And ark. Plus a few unique stuff thrown in! Like having them craft or make stuff is so amazing

  • @tayloralliecee

    @tayloralliecee

    5 ай бұрын

    its not really unique its just conan exiles which came out many years ago but it is nice the way they include it in the game

  • @puddingsimon2626

    @puddingsimon2626

    5 ай бұрын

    @@tayloralliecee ehh but Conan exiles is super clunky And. . . Idk buggy? Ark and its creature AI and movement feels better then Conan

  • @tayloralliecee

    @tayloralliecee

    5 ай бұрын

    @@puddingsimon2626 yeah but what im saying is in conan you capture people andmake them work at your base on various built structures & complete tasks for you. the rest is more like ark but that feature is straight from conan exiles.

  • @sharkt9877

    @sharkt9877

    5 ай бұрын

    @@tayloralliecee last time I checked your ally’s didn’t help you make stuff in that

  • @ManuMiAS

    @ManuMiAS

    4 ай бұрын

    it was announced even before Pokemon Arceus.

  • @rzdakira
    @rzdakira5 ай бұрын

    That "buying multiple flash drives to preserve multiple versions of stuff" is something that I did when I was in school for a project. We were just a bunch of kids and was strapped for time and have no idea how to manage versions so we just made multiple copies instead. So now seeing them do it for this game and received great success is filled me with so much complicated emotions. It made me feel ashamed of dropping a lot of stuff just because of a small pebble tripped me in my journey of learning/doing something. They also opened my eyes and showed me that sometimes, you should just go for it, learn on the way and improve one step at a time

  • @Kane0123
    @Kane01235 ай бұрын

    Is the music to this video stolen from Pokémon? #Theft #CancelTheo #MatchedAudioPolygons

  • @seanrileyhawkins4511
    @seanrileyhawkins45115 ай бұрын

    The Japanese quote is fire

  • @TheMimeGogo
    @TheMimeGogo5 ай бұрын

    More CONTEXT: This is outdated information - the account that accused the OP of "scaling to fabricate the evidence" was reported. The tweet was taken down and the account is gone (last i checked) I am a Technical Animator, I rig models for a living. I dont speak for byofrog - but I would like to add more info about the situation: what is "SCALING" Global sizes of 3D Assets varies for every project. if two 3D models of different sizes need to be compared side by side then of course the need to be resized to be inspected. The act of "scaling" does not constitute "tampering." Think of it this way - you have two images of different sizes in Photoshop that you need to compare side by side - free transform with locked proportions is what scaling is. The account that accused the poster of "fabricating" evidence - was shouting out loud "they scaled the model to make them match" - and everyone accepted it as ""evidence tampering" without knowing what "scaling" actually meant. It basically just means uniform re-sizing. Dont take my word for it - ask any 3D Artist what scaling means. It's basically a label that stemmed from a lack of understanding about the subject matter. And just because it gained traction - everyone accepted it as truth without verifying the sources. The account that called out Byofrog was reported - and the tweet was taken down, and the account gone. What is Fabricating actually? When the model itself is edited - by that - PARTS of the skeletons are moved, the shape is changed in crucial areas, individual vertices are edited- in order to change the model's shape / shilloute. Basically, moving body parts around, changing limb sizes, or number of fingers, or shape of a mouth - that's what tampering is. But doing a uniform scale - is almost a fixed practice in 3D modeling. Resizing those models so they can be put side by side to inspect the details is not tampering. Again, dont take my word for it - ask any other 3D artist.

  • @erikkusters378
    @erikkusters3785 ай бұрын

    your honor my client is claiming he was just being a bit silly.

  • @Emidoki
    @Emidoki5 ай бұрын

    I'm afraid the issues this game has is going to be ignored because people keep focusing on the wrong things; it's either blindly hated or blindly loved. So much misinformation and people talking as if they're an expert despite barely understanding how modeling, ai and game development works. There's alittle bit of that in this video to be honest. I keep seeing people getting a translated interview about Crafttopia mixed up thinking it was about Palworld for instance. This isn't their first game and they aren't as Indie as they are making themselves out to be, it's not a small team. I've been playing it on Xbox Game Pass (which is quite buggy), it's really bare bones with a memory leak at the moment but has potential. There's no depth to this game, it's nothing new beyond the capturing, which I do enjoy. There are some more unique pals that look nothing like Pokémon; I wish they had gone with a more distinctive style that sets at least most of them apart. The name is a little ridiculous, people are probably going to call them Pokémon over pals on accident. So much of the style clashes in game for me. The game looks good despite some of the clashing styles but everything looks good on Unreal Engine. It is possible they used AI for concept art but there's no way of knowing and no poof. We can have a discussion about this without being ugly and rude, otherwise no one will take you seriously. There is some shady stuff worth looking into. Looking at the model for Azurobe, it's clear that they either traced, referenced or changed up the model for Primarina, the tiers in the hair doesn't make sense on Azurobe because the hair ties that make it that shape on Prim are missing on Azurobe. Perhaps they couldn't make the deadline, and this is what they came up with. It also almost looks like they took the nose off of Primarina, enlarged it and stuck it on the tail, you can see through the tail that it wasn't meant to look like that, maybe a last-minute decision to try to make it look different, who knows. This is just an observation and speculation on my part, not an expert. If you didn't know about that specific Pokémon, you would miss it. Someone on the team was definitely cutting corners by doing this, they have the ability to not do this the more pals I encounter. I hope they evolve their style and work more on this game but it's possible that this is all we're going to get since there's not much of a roadmap. That is, if they don't abandon Palworld for another game like they did Craftopia. I can see why they did it back then but hopefully it doesn't become a habit. The Azurobe example is the main concerning one for me, but I haven't found any other similar examples showing that they traced the same flicks of hair. Even if they did trace/copy some of the character parts, is there anything that can be done legally about it or will it just be something that's legal but frowned upon? I wish they had shared more of their process and concept works.

  • @Renoistic

    @Renoistic

    5 ай бұрын

    Funny how Theo himself spreds misinformation in this very video to fit his narrative.

  • @Spiritwonder420

    @Spiritwonder420

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Renoisticgo suck Nintendo ass while the rest of us have fun

  • @MetronaJ
    @MetronaJ5 ай бұрын

    Okay so something I wanted to note I decided to read the thing that version control thing came from Some corrections By the time they made palworld they were using git, they however hired a UE4 veteran dev who never worked with git and recommended perforce since it was better for UE4 but they didn't have the budget for that so they settled for SVN Also they switched to unreal cause they of the veteran applying to the company and they had 3 choices: Not hire him, hire him and have him learn unity or trust him with teaching them and switch to UE4 (since the rest of them were amateurs) They went with the switch If you want to read the rest I can link you to the note page this info was from (or the summary I made on Pastebin)

  • @CoenBijpost
    @CoenBijpost5 ай бұрын

    If this is the level of your regular rants, you have a new sub! Absolutely love your style ❤ And your lush moustache!

  • @Markste-in
    @Markste-in5 ай бұрын

    TLDR: it is not pokémon

  • @grumpysanta6318

    @grumpysanta6318

    5 ай бұрын

    And it's more fun.

  • @nocivolive
    @nocivolive5 ай бұрын

    Palworld sucess seems like the iPhone in 2007. They aggregated good ideas that worked well individually but nobody tried to mesh them before. They made a new thing that is innovative in the area and just works, i.e. is fun!

  • @nadtz

    @nadtz

    5 ай бұрын

    I'd say not new but unique/different in a way that a lot of people are obviously enjoying. Hats off to pocket pair for doing a good job taking what they learned from craftopia and iterating on it to end up with such a successful game.

  • @RayOfTruth
    @RayOfTruth5 ай бұрын

    Scaling only changes the size of the model, it doesn't alter the design or proportions and is still a fair comparison.

  • @Its_Asteria

    @Its_Asteria

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah but some of the comparisons in general were still stretches. Besides. Even if some are similar it doesn't mean it was entirely intentional, and it's early access so it could be easily fixed instead of people bombarding the dev company with hatred and vitriol over 3D monsters

  • @TheAriznPremium
    @TheAriznPremium5 ай бұрын

    The music is so funny with how angry Theo is

  • @KrownedGuardian
    @KrownedGuardian5 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video, i really needed this. I've been so upset trying to explain to people that this is a 100% different game, even if some Pals have some inspiration from some Pokémon. I just want Palworld and the Dev team to continue to be a success. Also as some other comments have said, I hope at the end of the day Nintendo actually decides to put this on the Switch and let this game shine more! You have gained a new subscriber today.

  • @Renoistic

    @Renoistic

    5 ай бұрын

    They have sold like 8 million copies. I think they'll be fine.

  • @KrownedGuardian

    @KrownedGuardian

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Renoistic i mean i get that, but 8 million copies sold wont mean jack if they actually get sued lol. but ty for the response :)

  • @KickAssAndChewBubblegum
    @KickAssAndChewBubblegum5 ай бұрын

    I can't get over the source control comment. Flash drives. Brings me back to my first year of dev.

  • @Renoistic

    @Renoistic

    5 ай бұрын

    And Theo wants us to believe a 40-person team on a 7 mill budget made a game without proper version control. Sure...

  • @vandermannmusic

    @vandermannmusic

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Renoistic Version control in Unreal Engine is an enormous pain in the ***, which is why I don't think it is impossible that they didn't do it haha

  • @SkylerCrouse
    @SkylerCrouse5 ай бұрын

    Regardless of whether or not AI was used or asset theft took place in this instance, this drama showed that there are apparentally a lot of people who wouldn't care if it did and that bums me out a lot

  • @matthewhill5140

    @matthewhill5140

    5 ай бұрын

    Bro there's no proof there's just allegations this isn't a asset flip and if you think that this is you have no idea what a true asset flip Is sorry you have a problem that someone came in and made a better game all game freak does is resell u the same game every other year

  • @SkylerCrouse

    @SkylerCrouse

    5 ай бұрын

    @@matthewhill5140 Where did I say the game was an asset flip?? I said asset theft, as in the claims that the meshes were stolen, and how I feel regardless of whether or not the claims were true, which it looks like they are not. calm tf down

  • @unknownunknown-cd7rx

    @unknownunknown-cd7rx

    5 ай бұрын

    @@SkylerCrouse NONE of the meshes were stolen, they are all original meshes made from the ground up, with hundreds of animations

  • @meurigpoole1576

    @meurigpoole1576

    5 ай бұрын

    You are fighting ghosts bro, he's talking about people's feelings about if it happened. I do not think it was stolen, but still, kinda sad people wouldn't care IF it happened. Or if AI were used for "creative" work

  • @Spiritwonder420

    @Spiritwonder420

    4 ай бұрын

    Indeed we don't care if the game is fun

  • @bread_winner
    @bread_winner5 ай бұрын

    The fact that Theo's camera isn't aligned with arc's border is erking me

  • @theorants

    @theorants

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh no why did you have to mention this now I can’t unsee it

  • @Beefster09
    @Beefster095 ай бұрын

    The only case Nintendo might be able to make is that some of the pals are derivative of certain pokemon designs. Realistically this would get settled out of court and they might have to change some of the pal designs.

  • @Its_Asteria

    @Its_Asteria

    4 ай бұрын

    Which I'd be fine with pal redesigns because it is early access and it'd make everyone happy. It'd still have that pokemon like style but more differentiation. It'd be a win win for everyone and the discourse would probably stop immediately

  • @giulf3der957

    @giulf3der957

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly, if Pokemon asks them to change some designs, without even needing lawsuit, they can just redesign them a bit and they'll be fine

  • @MysticKorea
    @MysticKorea5 ай бұрын

    You've made a ton of great points! Something that is actually really telling is that the only people who don't like the game are the people who haven't actually played it. I have yet to meet anyone who has played the game that doesn't love it. If all the people so focused on the pokemon comparisons actually tried it, I think they would not only enjoy it but also realize, it's NOT pokemon. It ticks box after box after box for a lot of people and is setting a new standard I hope we will see in the future.

  • @Its_Asteria

    @Its_Asteria

    4 ай бұрын

    I've met a few that did play it and liked at first but then decided they didn't because it looked like pokemon or they heard the AI rumors and got upset. Which people are welcome to dislike something if they want to it's just the reasoning that's baffling. Their personal opinions are taken and used as fact Which yes the designs do resemble pokemon but I think thats what their goal was. Kind of like how parody works

  • @MysticKorea

    @MysticKorea

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Its_Asteria 100%

  • @awtodor
    @awtodor5 ай бұрын

    What's truly insane is that the entire premise is Nintendo, which has a fleet of very aggressive lawyers, wouldn't have tried to stop an adult themed parody of their kid franchise.

  • @midnari

    @midnari

    5 ай бұрын

    Not really. Nintendo doesn't do lawsuits they can't win, and to them, there's no danger. It isn't infringing on their IP, and the genre is so entirely different that there's no real overlap in play styles. From a business standpoint, why would they worry?

  • @boccobadz

    @boccobadz

    5 ай бұрын

    Because they can't. They can't sue somebody for making a game about catching monsters.

  • @karlhowt1914

    @karlhowt1914

    5 ай бұрын

    You say the pokemon are simlar to pals, when its clear as day they are based on animals. They say lambell is similar to wooloo, when they are clearly different versions of a sheep. The game functions drastically different than any pokemon game in existence.

  • @Beefster09

    @Beefster09

    5 ай бұрын

    Even funnier when you realize that Nintendo shut down the pokemon in palworld mod immediately, but didn’t do the same to palworld itself.

  • @crazyabe4571

    @crazyabe4571

    5 ай бұрын

    @@midnari because Palworld is showing the world that given 4 years, 40 people could do a better job of making a pokemon style game- than the 500 people they had working on Scarlet and Violet over three years.

  • @Lizard_of_Linux_Lane
    @Lizard_of_Linux_Lane5 ай бұрын

    Hey, I'm probably going to reference your video in an upcoming video about Palworld. I will be linking your video in the description, if you have any requests let me know in a reply here. I appreciate your coverage of these events, thank you.

  • @tylerfountain1286
    @tylerfountain12865 ай бұрын

    Pokemon has a copyright and not a patent as you can't patent an idea. As long as they don't directly steal the character models or names they aren't in jeopardy.

  • @teamofone1219

    @teamofone1219

    5 ай бұрын

    Shadow of war patent the nemesis system.

  • @tylerfountain1286

    @tylerfountain1286

    5 ай бұрын

    @@teamofone1219 while their TM will hold up, in court the patent would be shot down as there are similar systems that already exist by other developers. It does make for an interesting president. I'd be curios to see them try to enforce it though.

  • @viko1786
    @viko17865 ай бұрын

    Theo looks like he doesn't sleep regularly at any stage of recording.

  • @gergoradeczki
    @gergoradeczki5 ай бұрын

    When will you defend the Apple Magic Mouse and its charging port? 🥺👉👈

  • @ChristofFritz

    @ChristofFritz

    5 ай бұрын

    Never KEKW

  • @ChristopherCricketWallace

    @ChristopherCricketWallace

    5 ай бұрын

    it's indefensible.

  • @oat1000

    @oat1000

    5 ай бұрын

    It forced people to use it wirelessly, creating branding consistency whenever someone comes across a magic mouse and it lasts long enough to not be annoying when you do need to plug it in (I still think it's dumb)

  • @grimstrife4338

    @grimstrife4338

    5 ай бұрын

    Apple products deserve nothing but condemnation.

  • @ozkifovxvypyvp3574
    @ozkifovxvypyvp35745 ай бұрын

    Love the Hoeg Law clip, great channel covering the intersection of law and gaming. Also obsessed with playing Palworld, fun game.

  • @DeWilsKanal
    @DeWilsKanal5 ай бұрын

    The music choice in this video is genius

  • @jior6
    @jior65 ай бұрын

    Why do I get Petscop vibes when I hear the name Palworld?

  • @tiemanowo
    @tiemanowo5 ай бұрын

    7:45 that thing here was Gold.

  • @Vasher-The-Destroyer
    @Vasher-The-Destroyer5 ай бұрын

    Currently there is an investigation, apparently at Nintendo, but I doubt it because if Nintendo wanted to they would have already taken action against this game already. Honestly this is a big win for indie devs in my eyes.

  • @definingslawek4731

    @definingslawek4731

    5 ай бұрын

    There's no way for them to take action, every game / piece of media looks roughly like the other games / pieces of media it's in a genre with. Action movies don't sue other action movies cause there's explosions and fight scenes in them. Shooters don't sue other shooters cause theres guns in them. All nintendo could do is remove palworld from their platforms but it's not on their platforms anyway as far as I'm aware.

  • @CdrmnkNathan
    @CdrmnkNathan5 ай бұрын

    The only correlation between Palword and pokemon is the artstyle used making for some very similar looking monsters(Pals) and the use of a balls to catch them.

  • @rahumor7556
    @rahumor75565 ай бұрын

    Truthfully, I have been playing the game and ignoring the 'drama'. I figured most of it was from people who can't let others have fun.

  • @yuriventura5601

    @yuriventura5601

    5 ай бұрын

    I just wish everyone would stop forcing a narrative and stop speaking for everyone. Pal world is amazing but to say it will destroy pokemon is just a bunch of people who see their views as law in some sort. I feel palworld has made me appreciate poekmon and want to get into digimon.

  • @wrongthinker843

    @wrongthinker843

    5 ай бұрын

    @@yuriventura5601 > "stop forcing a narrative" > immediately makes up a narrative

  • @wrongthinker843

    @wrongthinker843

    5 ай бұрын

    Naughty Dog doesn't consider fun when making games, so they're offended if others do.

  • @yuriventura5601

    @yuriventura5601

    5 ай бұрын

    @@wrongthinker843 is that the best response you have? Come on now if you’re gonna debate at least put more effort. It’s fine if you can’t fathom it but I’ll break it down for you. Claiming that everyone wants Pokemon to be palworld and crying about “Nintendo fanboys” while projecting what oneself thinks on to everyone as if it should be that way is not the same as calling this stuff that’s literally being said all of KZread and even in comment sections. But hey go crazy.

  • @wrongthinker843

    @wrongthinker843

    5 ай бұрын

    @@yuriventura5601 Then stop projecting.

  • @Jack-cc3qm
    @Jack-cc3qm5 ай бұрын

    To be accurate. Its PalArk: Survival of the Cutest.

  • @JohnWilliams-gy5yc
    @JohnWilliams-gy5yc5 ай бұрын

    Theo: A lot of things inspire a lot of things. Nintendo: A lot of cease and desist notices inspire a lot of cease and desist notices.

  • @mikeyim9985
    @mikeyim99855 ай бұрын

    Wow we needed this video. Makes all the controversies around palworld silly.

  • @gravdigr27
    @gravdigr275 ай бұрын

    Despite your shirt looking like old school analog TV static making my eyes bleed, you sir earned my sub. You popped on my recommended. I have watched quite literally dozens of vids about Palworld and this vid beat em all. Your viewpoints and insights impressed me and your rant about naughty dog and TLOU2 pretty much echoed my own thoughts. I look forward to more of your vids. o7

  • @rrraewr
    @rrraewr5 ай бұрын

    03:00 if the scale is off originally that's not really a point. I can double the size of a picture too, still won't make it mine. The models are all eeeerily similar, the whole art direction is like on point Nintendo-esque. I'm not defending Nintendo at all, but it's CLEARLY a rip off. A fun rip off.

  • @Sei003
    @Sei0035 ай бұрын

    I find it fascinating how they managed to mash up so many things and made it work. It's not something you can easily do and I admire them for actually pulling it off.

  • @Thundah_Dome
    @Thundah_Dome5 ай бұрын

    Im happy to have supported this game.

  • @zehph
    @zehph5 ай бұрын

    The camera edge one or two pixels off of the browser window was lowkey triggering, don’t know why 😅 Sorry, I’m weird…

  • @sunla
    @sunla5 ай бұрын

    What's really funny is that the tris.... match up. The models are direct rips that were spliced and shaped and lightly manipulated using the sculpt feature in Blender, Zbrush, etc. I'd be interested to see a legal team that's actually familiar with copyright and the 3D modeling processes sift through this instead of a bunch of people on the internet that claim to know about any one of those subjects.

  • @Schinak

    @Schinak

    5 ай бұрын

    you mean the resised meshes. Try harder

  • @sunla

    @sunla

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Schinak I don't think you understood my comment.

  • @whoisjoe5610

    @whoisjoe5610

    5 ай бұрын

    Proof? Evidence? Did you complete your making shit up on the internet qouta for ghe day?

  • @sunla

    @sunla

    5 ай бұрын

    @@whoisjoe5610 you Palworld fans are a hateful bunch. Dial it back, stranger. Then we can have a dialogue. Maybe ask for details or something.

  • @freeze_peach

    @freeze_peach

    5 ай бұрын

    Post proof before make an allegation. Why don't dial it back first you accuser.

  • @forestrf
    @forestrf5 ай бұрын

    "fellow gamedev"

  • @WesleyR2803
    @WesleyR28035 ай бұрын

    Nintendo cant lawsuit Palworld, cause lets be honest Palworld been in-development for 3years and nintendo nothing did, they in the same country, the only reason they made that statement was cause a bunch of pokemon fans didnt like other company making something like pokemon but different and they started to make up stories and even sending those comparisons to nintendo which led Nintendo atm trying to investigate if they can get a few bucks, but they should learn is how to make a innovate and fun game, cause pokemon games have fallen to the ground in concepts, tech, pokemon designs, lack of innovation, its pretty much same formula over and over, look at their last innovation placing hats on pokemon wow so amazing, Nintendo cant lawsuit them and people are just mad cause finaly someone took the monster catch system and made it into success without having pokemon tag on it.

  • @portalpacific4500
    @portalpacific45005 ай бұрын

    God this vid came out in perfect timing. Couldnt agree more.

  • @jamesmarcel8330
    @jamesmarcel83305 ай бұрын

    Crazy thing is I haven't bought this yet, but fully intend to.

  • @CodeySparkzVT
    @CodeySparkzVT4 ай бұрын

    I heard 7million and heard 7 billion copies sold for a second I WAS LIKE DAMN THEY SOLD TO THE WHOLE WORLD

  • @zath863
    @zath8634 ай бұрын

    To me this is like Ark, BOTW and Pokemon merged into one, so I totally dig it.

  • @BurntFrenchToast106
    @BurntFrenchToast1065 ай бұрын

    The next pal I give a gun to, I’m gonna name him MURICAAA. Thank you devs at pocketpair for thinking about us westerners when creating this blessed game. Yours truly, A Pokémon veteran

  • @Exilum
    @Exilum5 ай бұрын

    To be clear, while they have different niches, Unity isn't necessarily more fit for small teams. But Unity definitely has less built-in stuff that can be considered bloat. An empty unity build could maybe be a few MB, while an empty unreal build is already quite big. If you're not using all of those features, being on unreal can be pretty annoying. On top of that, while you can use nodes in unreal, you can easily end up having to do C++. Unity uses C#, which is way easier for beginners. It's also a bit harder to do source control with unreal. These are the reasons Unity has its niche of small developers, but that doesn't necessarily make Unreal unfit for small teams.

  • @Banditmax20
    @Banditmax205 ай бұрын

    NINTENDO is "Angry" but did twitter started the angry post FIRST and force Nintendo to act?

  • @Renoistic

    @Renoistic

    5 ай бұрын

    They literally wrote they have recieved 'many' queries from random people. I doubt they would have posted anything otherwise.

  • @Banditmax20

    @Banditmax20

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Renoistic you just made my point right on the money.

  • @Iswimandrun
    @Iswimandrun5 ай бұрын

    They have the cute aesthetic like Nintendo but game play loop way different.

  • @teamofone1219
    @teamofone12195 ай бұрын

    If there were copyright Gamefreak would have gone after them the moment the trailer dropped and guess what they did go after one of the pals the looked super similar to a Pokemon which was removed from the trailer.

  • @cericat
    @cericat5 ай бұрын

    The Serperior comparison would probably have worked better with Dragonair honestly. Pokémon literally started as a digitised version of a childhood pastime of Japanese kids, bug fighting. Yeah stop comparing to cockfights kids, they're different things though both are cruel. Part of why TLoU Part 2 isn't doing as well too is Druckmann's blind support for IL has driven off some of the studios defenders finally as well, and this isn't speculative we were clear why we were done.

  • @smakajo400
    @smakajo4005 ай бұрын

    LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!

  • @thomassynths
    @thomassynths5 ай бұрын

    Oh my god. Animal “abuse” in video games ain’t real.

  • @Chryst1anFRz
    @Chryst1anFRz5 ай бұрын

    There's lot of VERY small audio cuts in this video.

  • @theorants

    @theorants

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah I think isotope screwed me 😭😭 tried some new audio processing and it did not go as hoped but I really wanted to go to bed lol

  • @Chryst1anFRz

    @Chryst1anFRz

    5 ай бұрын

    @@theorants its cool, the vid is still good!

  • @deiiyulol1407
    @deiiyulol14075 ай бұрын

    i cant believe nobody called Bloodborne a Dark souls clone

  • @dylandreisbach1986
    @dylandreisbach19865 ай бұрын

    I really hope we stop taking Twitter so seriously. There’s so much drama on there and people are willing to lie to get a point across. It’s just statements with nothing to back it up most of the time.

  • @friendlyneighborhoodnoob
    @friendlyneighborhoodnoob5 ай бұрын

    "Glorifies animal abuse"... that's literally 90% of the monster catching genre

  • @cometthedog1
    @cometthedog14 ай бұрын

    Dismissing palworld as just a copy of other games is like saying a band isnt original because the instruments they use have been used by other bands. Sure, a band could, theoretically, invent a new instrument, but using existing instruments in new ways and combinations can make a band unique. Just like palworld is unique despite many of the systems being very similar to other games. Its the way they put those systems together that makes it unique.

  • @mmattbtw
    @mmattbtw5 ай бұрын

    3:16 i actually just burst out laughing holy shit Peta undercover agent

  • @raymondgara
    @raymondgara5 ай бұрын

    I'm shocked with that Noti Dough.

  • @jaxuys
    @jaxuys5 ай бұрын

    Great coverage on this, love the smaller stories that make up the bigger picture!

  • @deathtrapsnap
    @deathtrapsnap5 ай бұрын

    If im honest, this isnt pokemon with guns, its ark with pokemon. The pokemon and ark game ive always wanted. I say pokemon, but could mean digimon or anything else, meaning monsters with elemental attacks and ark meaning open world survival base building, taming and boss hunting. This is a totally enjoyable experience for me and is why i put aside my "thats copied" biases

  • @chitin122
    @chitin1224 ай бұрын

    The fact people online don't know there are no original ideas only amalgams is hilarious.

  • @blackestyang7528
    @blackestyang75285 ай бұрын

    the best argument against Palworld is a five minute browse of Lockstin&Gnoggin's non-regional fakemon the talk around Palworld has revealed people willfully ignore the difference between shared concepts (therpal and ekans) and shared designs (direhowl and lycanroc) because of the awful state of Pokemon in recent years Nintendo's taken down non-profit fan games with all original mons nowhere close in design to their own. A retail game with designs this close actually makes me worried for what otherwise looks like a very fun game and the competitor Pokemon's needed for a long time if Palworld gets taken down, or if its success sets a precedent on plagiarism that'll bite *everyone* in the ass sooner or later, it won't be surprising FORESHADOWING IS A LITERARY DEVICE WHERE--

  • @AeternalisTheAbyssalAlchemist

    @AeternalisTheAbyssalAlchemist

    5 ай бұрын

    There is a big difference between Palworld and those Pokemon fangames. Blatant trademark infringement. Because "Pokemon" is trademarked by the Pokemon Company, simply by using *the word* Pokemon in the title and the game itself, opens the doors for Nintendo to take it down.

  • @philovermyer6166
    @philovermyer61665 ай бұрын

    Palworld is great and unique, can't lie. But conceptually it's very bare bones in it's current state which may or may not be the draw but I'd like to see more depth added to all the aspects of the game. The Pal types being less of a spreadsheet document and more of a flowchart in how they interact could use a large overhaul, it's one of the more compelling parts to Pokemon. The base building could be more robust, the crafting and technology system could use some customization aspects, the weapon system could use some diversity. Weaving a meta narrative into all the NPC factions would be great, more civilization hubs and a larger map. But that's nit picking. At the end of the day for a mashup of popular concepts made by a try or die small studio in a handful of years worth of time, and that it's still in early access with a roadmap to features they'd like to add and now a decent cashflow to put some R&D back into the game it'll be cool to see where they go. Love Nintendo's nonanswer about wanting to step in on them, a very legalese writeup of "we know, stop sending us emails about it".

  • @walkingmadnesscrawlingsanity

    @walkingmadnesscrawlingsanity

    5 ай бұрын

    they had a budget of $10,000 at the start and have sold over 7 million copies costing around $26.99 until the 10% from steam goes away making it $30 meaning they've made roughly $188,930,000 so saying that no bullshit from some companies legal team that actually has no ground to stand on doesn't happen I would say they will definietly not abandon palworld unlike their previous games...who knows they may even try working on the previous ones again as well if they get more than the team of 40 who worked on palworld

  • @philovermyer6166

    @philovermyer6166

    5 ай бұрын

    @@walkingmadnesscrawlingsanity it's always hard to tell what someone's creative vision is gonna be, there's the dichotomy of Fallout 76 vs No Man's Sky and how companies handle success and there's plenty of games that never left early access. The real upside is that a game making these kinds of waves makes other dev teams and production companies take notice and while I trust that Pocket will stick to their roadmap now that they've found such huge success, if they don't someone else will and ultimately as a long time Pokemon fan I really hope that Gamefreak looks at this and sees what people want and evolve their own franchise.

  • @unknownunknown-cd7rx

    @unknownunknown-cd7rx

    5 ай бұрын

    @@walkingmadnesscrawlingsanity uhhhhhh no......their budget was not 10k.....idk where you got that number from, it took them almsot 7million USD to make the game, dont spread lies

  • @walkingmadnesscrawlingsanity

    @walkingmadnesscrawlingsanity

    5 ай бұрын

    @@unknownunknown-cd7rx wasn't lying just mistook the original team of 4 and their budget of 10k as the total budget at 8:05 it shows what I was referencing

  • @grumpysanta6318

    @grumpysanta6318

    5 ай бұрын

    They put a roadmap out yesterday, the game's going to grow nicely.

  • @mrgyani
    @mrgyani4 ай бұрын

    8:47 - what an insane story. 😅 No version control? They are more amateurish than me..

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM5 ай бұрын

    this is THE new example of "stumbling into success" that I've ever seen. even if your solution to a problem is janky, if you like using it and it works, then there's nothing wrong with it.

  • @acebeck2000
    @acebeck20005 ай бұрын

    Get stones walls quickly,raids can, wipe. Out your base with overpowered raid pallas. My base got hit with pallas that looked muscled like machok.

  • @chriswinslow
    @chriswinslow5 ай бұрын

    Shame. I was looking forward to starting some projects for the iOS in the very near future. This has made me think twice about even supporting any apple device.

  • @thelightsilent
    @thelightsilent5 ай бұрын

    Base takes bro your a legends thank you for speaking up!

  • @matteobarbarini3120
    @matteobarbarini31205 ай бұрын

    Finally somebody who can kill the boredom of the Pokémon games

  • @Renoistic

    @Renoistic

    5 ай бұрын

    By replacing it with the boredom of survival games. Yay...

  • @matteobarbarini3120

    @matteobarbarini3120

    4 ай бұрын

    I may agree not agree :D @@Renoistic

  • @syrix5914
    @syrix59145 ай бұрын

    Craftopia is from the same devs, which has been in early access for over 3 years. This is the only genuine concern I have.

  • @tylercafe1260
    @tylercafe12605 ай бұрын

    The core fundamental misunderstanding is Pokemon is not just one game series. It's a franchise of manga, anime, movies, plushies, and multiple spin off games (Fighting Games, Multiple RPGs, Photography, Poke-Walker, Pinball, Trading Cards, Puzzles, and Poke-Park) So as long as don't look like Pokemon you can still just copy Pokemon just don't steal their characters. It's very simple. Black and white even.

  • @_The_Traveler_
    @_The_Traveler_5 ай бұрын

    I don't know why this video triggered the idea, but there should be a Palworld x Digimon crossover. Both series have more in common with each other than either have with Pokemon.

  • @mazhiwezakizo3513
    @mazhiwezakizo35135 ай бұрын

    I bet they also moved away from Unity, due to the major scandal when Unity decided they were going to change their service in such a way that hurt smaller devs specifically, and seemed to make things not profitable for smaller devs. Not sure why anyone would risk working with Unity after that fiasco.

  • @oneautumnleaff2119
    @oneautumnleaff21195 ай бұрын

    man thank you for having 4k, 1080p looks like pure sht for me on my 4k monitor

  • @Kr33gola
    @Kr33gola5 ай бұрын

    lol at least some one brought up tem tem

  • @spencerbrooks8488
    @spencerbrooks84885 ай бұрын

    While the creatures look more like Pokemon and pokemon is the more known game, after sinking almost a few full days into this game it feels a lot more like an Ark clone then a pokemon one.

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