The Story of Bwonsamdi (and the Loa) [Lore]

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Hello everyone! The Loa Bwonsamdi has been a shining star during the Horde story so much so that a lot of you asked me to talk about this story. To do that, we’ll have to dive way into the past and talk a little bit about Vol’jin...I hope you’ll enjoy ^_^
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  • @DeeJayLilStack
    @DeeJayLilStack5 жыл бұрын

    I remember one time I died as a mage, I tried to blink away and Bwonsamdi literally said; "Dat blink didnt get ya very far, did it?" Bwosamdi you are such a smartass

  • @harrietbowles1153

    @harrietbowles1153

    3 жыл бұрын

    This happened to me the other day and I was ANGRY, but in a good way lol. Had to text like three different people that I just got roasted by some zeros and ones in a fictional video game.

  • @bobthedestroyer6205

    @bobthedestroyer6205

    3 жыл бұрын

    For my hunter, he said "ya be tryin' to feign death, mon? Tsk. Oh no no no..." or something like that. These references are fckin awesome dude

  • @Kairos_Akuma

    @Kairos_Akuma

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bobthedestroyer6205 For Priests he basically says if you ever want to worship something else..to just give him a call xD

  • @Mediados

    @Mediados

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Kairos_Akuma I love it so much that they gave Bwonsamdi all these class-specific lines. Makes his character feel so much more alive in comparison to others.

  • @okandoguhanaslaner8863
    @okandoguhanaslaner88635 жыл бұрын

    What's really cool is about Bwosamdi, he actually has a special line for each class. Demon hunter: "Something about ya seem off...Ah, da stench of a demon hunter." Druid: "Ya not be dreaming now, mon." Death knight: "Ah, a death knight. Ya should come see MY death gate!" Hunter: "Ya be tryin' ta feign death, mon? Shame..." Mage: "Dat blink didn't get ya very far, did it?" Monk: "Hah! Ya didn't roll out of dat one." Paladin: "I think ya followed da wrong light, mon." Priest: "Oh, a priest! If ya ever consider a change of faith, you be sure to let old Bwonsamdi know, ya hear?" Rogue: "Ya can't be hidin' from Bwonsamdi, little ting." Shaman: "Oh, da spirits with with ya now, mon." Warlock: "Awww, did ya lose your little shiny soulstone, eh?" Warrior: "All that armor...didn't help ya much, did it?"

  • @naquan59

    @naquan59

    5 жыл бұрын

    The warrior one makes me really think how the hell do warriors compete with the other classes?

  • @novauncensored4633

    @novauncensored4633

    5 жыл бұрын

    I love the demon hunter one.

  • @charleswinters9567

    @charleswinters9567

    5 жыл бұрын

    What does he mean by ''wrong light''?

  • @Meckro

    @Meckro

    5 жыл бұрын

    Charles Winters it might be referring to the saying “light at the end of the tunnel”

  • @DarkApostleNoek

    @DarkApostleNoek

    5 жыл бұрын

    really nice.

  • @probablyanoldgod320
    @probablyanoldgod3205 жыл бұрын

    I really hope Bwomsamdi doesn't turn up being an Old God minion. I'll be so sad ):

  • @tri1937

    @tri1937

    5 жыл бұрын

    If he was an old god minion I don’t think he would’ve helped us murder ghuun

  • @moonrazor2039

    @moonrazor2039

    5 жыл бұрын

    With how Blizzard treats Horde-alinged characters that aren't 100% goodies, probably. >.>

  • @poochyboi

    @poochyboi

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tri1937 why not? G'huun is an abomination. Created by the titan watchers from old god expirements. It wouldn't be hard to see why the old gods would hate it too

  • @shadyseeker9080

    @shadyseeker9080

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dick Piano We already know the N'zoth Via the Nazjatar were aiding Zul, and G'huun. So that isn't the case.

  • @dustinwheat4096

    @dustinwheat4096

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think he serves an old god but rather something we haven’t seen yet. N’zoth does have some influence over the dead supposedly but it would make Azshara seem like such a lesser character if she were just one of many god-tier powerhouses. I believe he, helya, and maybe even Azshara if she’s playing N’zoth for a fool are serving something on a near similar power level as the old gods but much more subtle. It could even be what sylvanas is really afraid of

  • @manfreddefonce6636
    @manfreddefonce66365 жыл бұрын

    I love Bwansamdi, he reminds me of a lot of my older friends & relatives from the Caribbean with his humor & "trolling" lol. I also love how Blizzard made the Troll race a reflection of the African Diaspora.

  • @KisiroKitsune
    @KisiroKitsune5 жыл бұрын

    I like the idea that Bwonsamdi's boss is Xibala, Rezan's mother. She is described with decay sounding powers, and when you kill a spirit at Xibala's bones it says "I go to Xibala..." She is also named after the Mayan underworld. It better not be an Old God. That's such a lazy copout. We need less things connected to Old Gods, there's way too much tied to them already.

  • @Electru522

    @Electru522

    5 жыл бұрын

    Considering what Ghuun is, being both connected and not connected to the Old Gods, I think Blizzard are aware of this. He is not a product of the Old Gods, but of the Titans essentially making an Old God themselves accidentally. So, I'm fairly certain that Bwonsamdi's boss is not an Old God.

  • @Vinzenzx

    @Vinzenzx

    5 жыл бұрын

    +Elector522 i agree, i hope the boss of Bwonsamdi is a complete new character

  • @TheBEstAltair

    @TheBEstAltair

    5 жыл бұрын

    What Old Gods, there are no Old Gods in this expansion, it's about a faction war remember? :D

  • @HavocHounds1988

    @HavocHounds1988

    5 жыл бұрын

    If it's not Xibala, then I hope it's Argus.

  • @HavocHounds1988

    @HavocHounds1988

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @161patox
    @161patox5 жыл бұрын

    The pure horror on Rastakhan's face when Bwonsamdi puts his hand on his shoulder, it's amazing.

  • @xPepe1310
    @xPepe13105 жыл бұрын

    I am so happy Vol Jin is back ! Please be a Loa ! My Warchief and now my loa

  • @JamesW609
    @JamesW6095 жыл бұрын

    Best character in bfa so far

  • @JamesW609

    @JamesW609

    5 жыл бұрын

    @meh moi I apologize for my heresy

  • @user-uq4gr5nl5o

    @user-uq4gr5nl5o

    5 жыл бұрын

    You mean Jani, right?

  • @ravager48
    @ravager485 жыл бұрын

    "He's got friends on the other side."

  • @kingkmtso5107

    @kingkmtso5107

    2 жыл бұрын

    De other side

  • @stumpe9662
    @stumpe96625 жыл бұрын

    i love Bwondsamdi being the spirit healer, best char this expac and im an ally

  • @NikGushue
    @NikGushue5 жыл бұрын

    I want to just clarify a few things about real life voodoo, but I'll just clarify what's in this video. Baron Samedi is a loa of the Ghede family in Lousisana Voodoo, as well as Haitian vodou. Yes there is a difference, both connected to the history of those places. Voodoo/vodou has a lot of negative connotations, but that mostly stems from propaganda and assimilation techniques to try and destroy African worship in Americas. That's actually why he's called Baron Samedi, as he is associated with Saturday and the French word for Saturday is Samedi. This is also why there tends to be catholic imagery used in real world voodoo, as the exchange of worshiping saints as their gods in exchange for keeping their beliefs alive.

  • @Vintagegaston
    @Vintagegaston5 жыл бұрын

    If Senjin really did become a Loa, then perhaps that was the soul he lost long ago. And if this boss was not happy about one Darkspear becoming a Loa on his watch, then how would he feel about two?

  • @danielhannestad3883
    @danielhannestad38835 жыл бұрын

    I hope you read this nobbel, your videos is da shit, i love em and you explain lore in an entertaining and understandable way. KEEP GOING! Btw i’d love a video on grand apothecary putress, I really dont know any of his backstory, how did he become the grand apothecary? Who was he before he died?

  • @greyworld6242
    @greyworld62425 жыл бұрын

    Bwomsandi is best loa! Shadowman should’ve made a deal with him. lol

  • @kw951

    @kw951

    5 жыл бұрын

    What about my boi Kragwa?

  • @tex4096

    @tex4096

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kristian W Jani FTW

  • @prod7906

    @prod7906

    5 жыл бұрын

    Honestly all races should conform to troll culture or be killed.

  • @zoltanlako4716
    @zoltanlako47163 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Now we know that his boss was Muehl’zala. But as he says in the dungeon after defeating his boss. He is the bossmon now!❤️

  • @Michael_Raymond
    @Michael_Raymond5 жыл бұрын

    Nobbel you're a boss and an invaluable help to people like me who love the lore but just can't process it all themselves.

  • @presdehart
    @presdehart5 жыл бұрын

    Wow the Horde story line looks so good!

  • @matthewolson2386
    @matthewolson23865 жыл бұрын

    Bwonsamdi is a quite the character with certain appeal in the lore. There is so much pointing to death and the Old Gods here, especially N'zoth. Can't wait to see how far they take this, and all the juicy bits of lore, as you pointed out, come to light. Keep up the great videos.

  • @Piromysl359
    @Piromysl3595 жыл бұрын

    I bet he loves apples. If you know what I mean.

  • @CharxGaming

    @CharxGaming

    5 жыл бұрын

    you reckon it's cause apples keeps doctors away and he's a god of death?

  • @recksonkhiangte1488

    @recksonkhiangte1488

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CharxGaming It's a death note reference I believe.

  • @CharxGaming

    @CharxGaming

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@recksonkhiangte1488 it's gonna blow your mind to know ryuk from deathnote is also a god of death

  • @NuckleBebop

    @NuckleBebop

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol i got Ryuk vibes too xD

  • @sugmael

    @sugmael

    5 жыл бұрын

    everybody's making death note references and i'm just sat here thinking about how much bwonsamdi reminds me of james woods's hades

  • @AnyMe223
    @AnyMe2235 жыл бұрын

    26:52 Every Loa makes bargains, not just Bwonsamdi. They are not benefactors, or friends of the ones who use their powers, they just provide a service in exchange for some kind of payment, and that's why Shrivallah, Hi'reek and I suppose Nalorakk, were completely pissed at Gonk when he taught their Primalists/Priests/Witch Doctors who to become druids. Every new Darkspear Druid meant one less Witch Doctor doing their biding

  • @MrBern-ex3wq
    @MrBern-ex3wq5 жыл бұрын

    I stand against the theory of N'zoth being Bwonsamdi's master, because then why would N'zoth allow Bwonsamdi to oppose G'huun in the first place? The Old Gods want their Black Empire back, to rule Azeroth and corrupt her titan soul. Working against one of their own kind seems counter productive. You ask me, it could be Xibala, the T-rex described as Rezan's mother, and so what could be the Loa of all Loa, and so "The Boss" Maybe Nobbel's Sen'Jin theory is possible. Or perhaps its the answer as to the spirituality of the trolls in Shadows of the Horde. So far all Loa have been animals of sorts. Bwonsamdi seems to be the only Loa that looks like a troll. What if "The Boss" is the First Loa, and he's also a troll, perhaps the Loa that brought the Trolls to existence. (Remember that we don't know how the Troll race came to be in the first place. They aren't fleshified Titan constructs like Dwarves, or descendants of giant creatures like the Orcs.). And of course it can be the ultimate manifestation of Death. The Death equivalent of Naaru or Void Lords. I just hope that if this is the case, they don't make Death the ultimate villain because: 1. That would just be too short-sighted. Death is not some ultimate evil, its just an aspect of nature, meant to keep Life in check. Hell is something that awaits you after Death, not Death itself, so to say. 2. Would be kind of boring, since how Death is something that can never be defeated, we'd end up facing off against it for all eternity.

  • @andreware2039

    @andreware2039

    5 жыл бұрын

    G'huun is an artikificial creation by the titans. He's iin noo way connected to the other Old Gods. They were created directly by the void. G'huun is just some experiment. I doubt any of the true Old Gods would even care about it at all unless it is being used by them (or Just N'zoth) as a distraction. Other than that, N'zoth would be plausable, but, we shall see.

  • @Vsn24

    @Vsn24

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also G'huun loves undead which Bwonsamdi and the old gods hate. You can't take the soal of an undead and they can't be void corrupted.

  • @fidly4

    @fidly4

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the old gods would work together in present day if it seemed like the only way to corrupt the titan soul, but back in the black empire days they actually waged war against each other all the time just to decide who would get to corrupt the soul. I feel like there's a better source for this but the only one I remember is that Xal'atath has some quotes about it. That said, I do HOPE he isn't a servant of N'zoth.

  • @cooltv2776

    @cooltv2776

    5 жыл бұрын

    the old gods are not allies to each other, they probably wouldnt want any of the others gaining power if it can be avoided. im interested what they think of g'huun, assuming they even know about him

  • @TheBEstAltair

    @TheBEstAltair

    5 жыл бұрын

    +Andre Ware, G'huun is not an Old God per se, he is an artificial being born of the Old God's pure desire to corrupt, other than that and him being created by the Titan keepers in research of Old Gods, he is not connected to them. +Mr. Bern, I think i heard that Bwonsamdi is not a Troll, something about him being older than Trolls, and instead is just taking their form, since they are his primary worshipers(dunno if any non-trolls even worship Loas...) Probably his boss is another being not yet introduced, the primal aspect of Death, and both Bwonsamdi and Helya work for him, since they both seem to have a similar purpose.(Bwon's "Other Side" and Helya's Helheim, both collecting souls...)

  • @kelmacett2456
    @kelmacett24564 жыл бұрын

    Didnt it feel like Bwomsamdi KNEW Rezan was going to be killed? When he says "..I will see ya in good time". He is gifting Rastakhan back to Rezan and knows Rezan will take Rastakahns place in the very near future.

  • @garygood6804
    @garygood68045 жыл бұрын

    i haven't watched any of your vids since cata. nice work as always.

  • @marque9535
    @marque95355 жыл бұрын

    Jani = best loa

  • @MrDESTROYER99

    @MrDESTROYER99

    5 жыл бұрын

    My IRL name is Jani lol

  • @kw951
    @kw9515 жыл бұрын

    From what the void told Alleria about Sylvanas, it sounds like death and the void are opposed to each other. So I'm guessing he is gonna help us against some old Gods.

  • @kylebutler9865

    @kylebutler9865

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, she is undead. She isn't about the peace of death, or ending. Undeath seems to be a counter force to death, a breaking of the cycle. Maybe undeath could be a way for the Naaru to avoid going void? Who knows. The lore is a bit fuzzy here.

  • @DarkApostleNoek

    @DarkApostleNoek

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think death/undeath clears corruption or replaces it depending on how you look at it, Sally Whitemane suffered the SC madness of the Nathrezim in which case the Burning Legion but when brought back as a Deathknight she is cured.

  • @cappecfh

    @cappecfh

    5 жыл бұрын

    As I understand it, the void can't corrupt undeads and that is why the voidlords fear Sylvanas. Remember the Scourge was created by the Burning Legion, presumably to fight the Void. And Sylvanas forsaken is pretty much what remains of the Scourge that we know of since we haven't heard much from Bolvar.

  • @shirojaki2063
    @shirojaki20635 жыл бұрын

    Yogg-Saron's quote "Your petty quarrels only make me stronger!" has haunted me to this day.. I KNEW that this war and everything to do with it is just making every Old God stronger, more powerful and maybe even return from their prisons.. remember his death lines aswel, "Your fate is sealed! The end of days is finally upon you and all who inhabit this miserable little seedling! /then Old God gibberish that does have meaning.." I would like to see Yogg-Saron and C'Thun back honestly, I thought we only pushed them back into their prisons by killing their physical manifestations and didn't outright kill them? Because killing an Old God is probably just as bad as letting one loose.

  • @Caedus696
    @Caedus6965 жыл бұрын

    Makes sense for Bwonsamdi to be the one that set Sylvanas up as the Warchief. In shadows of the horde, when Vol'jin is interacting with him and having visions, Bwonsamdi urged vol'jin and was excited about one of the possible futures where he became warchief and lead the Horde as conquerors of azeroth, sparking endless war and bringing countless souls into Bwonsamdi's care. I would say that Sylvanas is doing a pretty good job of that so far.

  • @AnyMe223
    @AnyMe2235 жыл бұрын

    27:47 There's also Samedi, another Loa inspired by Baron Samedi, Loa of the Grave (though Rezan calls that to Bwonsamdi, so Samedi might have been retconned), with the same basic domain as Bwonsamdi. There's also Mueh'zala, Loa of the dead among the Farraki trolls (there's even a shrine to him in Tal'Farrak, in Zuldazar). I'm betting on a new entity, on the same status as Elune (a fully god, not a demi-god as the Wild Gods or Elemental Lords are)

  • @RockyTorres43
    @RockyTorres435 жыл бұрын

    Someone working for the Old Gods giving power to Sylvanas would be very odd considering how much the Void wants her dead in Alleria's whispers.

  • @MeandMonkeyLP

    @MeandMonkeyLP

    5 жыл бұрын

    We do not really know if it is the Void that wants her dead or just Alleria herself in a way. Maybe she is "imagining" the Whispers telling her to kill Sylvanas because she hates her

  • @gupgipmoon
    @gupgipmoon5 жыл бұрын

    Get me in here nobbel I’ve been waiting for this one my man

  • @pinstripe5487
    @pinstripe54872 жыл бұрын

    Mueh’zala is revealed to be Bwonsamdi’s boss in Shadowlands, but all of you know that by now. He’s also the Loa who set Sylvanas as Warchief.

  • @EJ_Red
    @EJ_Red5 жыл бұрын

    Oh, is this the new Deathnote series? Oh nevermind, just Bwonsomdi...

  • @HeliosKafar

    @HeliosKafar

    5 жыл бұрын

    Now all we need is a troll that eats potato chips.

  • @Knokkelman
    @Knokkelman5 жыл бұрын

    22:37 Love how Talanji casually apologizes for the whole thunder king resurrection to gain world domination plot... A bit like saying "you know, this Hitler dude seemed like he had some good ideas at the time"

  • @Laura_Darkspear
    @Laura_Darkspear5 жыл бұрын

    I need a bumper sticker that says “Bwonsamdi is my copilot”

  • @depressedgwyndolin

    @depressedgwyndolin

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @TheSuperRatt
    @TheSuperRatt5 жыл бұрын

    Rastakhan definitely screwed Talanji with the deal he made with Bwonsamdi...

  • @cameronsmith508
    @cameronsmith5083 жыл бұрын

    I love the group you’re with in that video😂😂😂 RPG to the max

  • @jaratt85
    @jaratt855 жыл бұрын

    just FYI Nobbel Haitian is pronounced Hey-shen. Btw they actually changed the quest text since early beta.. in late beta it no longer had a limit of souls you give to Bwonsamdi. Instead of saying a million, it just says something like "You'll keep me favor and I'll help you out, so long as you keep sending me souls." The problem with the deal Bwonsamdi makes with Rastakhan is it's actually easily broken.. "all those that succeed you" all Talanji has to do is not succeed him to the throne of Zandalar and the deal is broken.. So she can just hook up with Rokahn and become queen of the Darkspear instead of Zandalar and the pact is broken. :D

  • @cowboy3xk

    @cowboy3xk

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Darkspear also follow Bwonsamdi. Just saying.

  • @jaratt85

    @jaratt85

    5 жыл бұрын

    BUT by not following him to rule Zandalar then the line of succession would be broken and they'd be free from the deal. Gotta learn how to read between the lines..

  • @bloodydove5718

    @bloodydove5718

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or looking at deals at face value and following the letter of the law. This is how Fey work, saying jive like "I will not kill you" doesnt mean they wont have someone else do it in their stead

  • @jaratt85

    @jaratt85

    5 жыл бұрын

    jive? did we just pop back to the 20's?

  • @bloodydove5718

    @bloodydove5718

    5 жыл бұрын

    nope, to the 70's and 80's

  • @RaulWalrus
    @RaulWalrus5 жыл бұрын

    Another great video

  • @thejameslock1
    @thejameslock15 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video!

  • @invoke4937
    @invoke49375 жыл бұрын

    WTB Shadowhunter class for the horde and perheps Tide Sages for the alliance

  • @theesamnightingale2474

    @theesamnightingale2474

    5 жыл бұрын

    I feel like tide sages would be a narrow class. they could be Healer/Dps class.

  • @Archember

    @Archember

    5 жыл бұрын

    Adorabeezle Winterpop Wouldn’t that just be a Shaman?

  • @fleperd7021
    @fleperd70215 жыл бұрын

    probably my favorite character in the whole game rn

  • @matt5842
    @matt58425 жыл бұрын

    Man I love the storytelling in this expansion. Especially all the troll stuff, Bwonsamdi is so cool. Also I bethes gonna be a raid boss one day.

  • @mrbaaltheevilgoat9924
    @mrbaaltheevilgoat99244 жыл бұрын

    arthas says the same thing as the king of zuldur: i have taken Care of everything

  • @jonmaciel
    @jonmaciel5 жыл бұрын

    I like the idea of his boss being Mueh'zala. It's the only loa from the Tablet of Theka in Zul'Farrak that we haven't seen yet. Kimbul and Shadra are the other two mentioned on the tablet. The Travelers book does well to show how evil he is - wouldn't surprise me that Bwonsamdi would be afraid of him.

  • @danielleoooo
    @danielleoooo5 жыл бұрын

    HEK HEK HEK HEK

  • @DustGamezX
    @DustGamezX3 жыл бұрын

    Bwomsamdi has become my favourite character currently, he is too damn enjoyable and entertaining.

  • @milenasoloduhina1726
    @milenasoloduhina17265 жыл бұрын

    He seems like a perfect amalgamation of Ryuk and Dr. Facilier. with a dash of Hades... or is it just me? :D

  • @nameofthegame9664
    @nameofthegame96645 жыл бұрын

    “Ya can't be hidin' from Bwonsamdi, little ting, no”

  • @beemer9108
    @beemer91085 жыл бұрын

    I would love a speculation video on what Loa Vol'jin will be and who Bwonsamdi works for. I can't really put my finger on either of them, but I love the idea that Vol'jin will be a Loa. Also, the potential for the "boss" of Bwonsamdi to be any of the old gods or the titans is sooooo cool. Personally, I think since we already dealt with the titans that it will be an old god that Bwonsamdi "works" for., I just don't know who. It would parley into the future pretty well, though, because it could introduce a new one of the old gods. Then if we have Bwonsamdi withhold his spirits in order to weaken that god so we can vanquish it, that would be quite awesome. This all makes me sooo excited for the future.

  • @robertthomas2565
    @robertthomas25655 жыл бұрын

    I love Bwonsamdi my new favorite character he's great maybe my favorite of all time

  • @matthewm6448
    @matthewm64485 жыл бұрын

    Yay you posted this I asked like 6 times

  • @theintern2960
    @theintern29605 жыл бұрын

    I suspect that death as a theme is going to play a bigger part in whatever expansion comes next. Between this, the peeks we see of the realm of the dead Thros, and of the implication that Lich King Bolvar Fordragon is doing something in the background suggests that something big is coming.

  • @sarahrussell2983
    @sarahrussell29835 жыл бұрын

    I think the last spirit Bwonsamdi lost before Vol'jin was Sen'jin. There's speculation that Sen'jin ascended to being a loa, and now there's speculation that Vol'jin became a loa as well. Loa could be out of Bwonsamdi's domain, since loa don't 'die' in the sense that mortals do. Like wild gods, most 'dead' loas' souls just rest on a different plain from the physical until they are summoned back. However, there seems to be permadeath for loa whose essence/power are consumed.

  • @Kuuribro

    @Kuuribro

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bwonsamdi has the spirit of Torga, in Nazmir. Loa are definitely still under his domain, when they die.

  • @KisiroKitsune

    @KisiroKitsune

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Kuuribro He doesn't have Torga's spirit, he just let's us talk to Torga. Toga got reborn.

  • @Kuuribro

    @Kuuribro

    5 жыл бұрын

    He *had* Torga's spirit. If he didn't have it, why would we have to talk to him in the first place to be able to communicate with Torga? Torga was under Bwonsamdi's care, and Bwonsamdi called Torga back from the other side to talk with us after we gave him something. Torga's reincarnation was not a guarantee, if we hadn't intervened he wouldn't have been reincarnated. And he would have stayed under Bwonsamdi's care.

  • @zzmr_stretchzz8772

    @zzmr_stretchzz8772

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kuuribro youiterally said it he called him back that doesn’t mean he has or had him

  • @Kuuribro

    @Kuuribro

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bwonsamdi literally says "you bring me da soul of *another* loa, then I get you Torga's spirit". Another as in, he already has one - Torga. Don't get nitpicky about word choices, there is literally nothing about that quest to suggest the Loa exists in some special immune-to-bwonsamdi status. Everything about it on its face suggests Bwonsamdi has Torga in death.

  • @robinburt5735
    @robinburt57355 жыл бұрын

    Great video, but one thing i have to mention is your ghastly transmog on your paladin hehe :P

  • @cynicalnitro8416
    @cynicalnitro84165 жыл бұрын

    I feel like there's gonna be a war between Bwonsamdi and Helya for Sylvannys

  • @qugo8158
    @qugo81585 жыл бұрын

    Can you do the story of Gortuk in Drustar and what the blighted lands are?

  • @louiemercado5595
    @louiemercado55955 жыл бұрын

    Hi there love your latest lore! Can you make the lore on wild gods please? I wonder if you make another lore video on that one. Thank you!

  • @DvBattlegears
    @DvBattlegears5 жыл бұрын

    Bwomsandi power has been confirmed the power to jump really high...

  • @Crownsnek

    @Crownsnek

    5 жыл бұрын

    It buffs heroic leap making it so that there's always a path available

  • @demonbob901
    @demonbob9015 жыл бұрын

    I would like to see a story about Nathanos Blightcaller next :D

  • @naychur
    @naychur5 жыл бұрын

    Freaking awesome! We share the same last name!!

  • @nagashtheundyingking4404
    @nagashtheundyingking44044 жыл бұрын

    I just love him he is just so much fun he really reminds me of the villain in princess and the frog in a good way

  • @CoconutChia
    @CoconutChia2 ай бұрын

    he is the best, I enjoyed playing BFA wonderful story telling. Not to mention De other side dungeon in SL.

  • @LandoHitman
    @LandoHitman5 жыл бұрын

    God, I love Jani

  • @serge2cool
    @serge2cool4 жыл бұрын

    Looks to be Bwomsamdi is tied closely to the Shadowlands. It's been in Alpha and probably Beta. I believe this was a setup for next expansion, and it's one I do very much look forward to! Shadowlands and Bwomsamdi are a perfect connection in terms of thematics and that.

  • @nulllex0099
    @nulllex00995 жыл бұрын

    Alright why, oh fucking why, is taking Vol'jin's ashes up to the grand temple of kings better, than the time he was warchief?! I've always had a soft spot for trolls, I've always like the Dark Spear, especially the time of the Darkspear Rebellion, it was absolutely glorious! And all the talk about the book, I just wonder, why couldn't we see Vol'jin act like a great warchief during all the time he lead? That cinematic I saw where his spirit is right there with Talanji better indicate he has in fact become a Loa, because Vol'jin had so much more to give before dying like that! Also, the first parts of this video really, really make me wish there was such a thing as race-specific classes. Just imagining what it'd be like to be a Shadow Hunter troll, I can only dream. The tale of the Loa is still fascinating as a whole. I just wish we were told some more, on how exactly the Wild-God-like Loa diverged from THAT side of the wilds that the Wild Gods belong to. Like, with the War of the Ancients and all the allies Malorne had and Freya made, we never hear about the likes of Rezan for example. Just what exactly made these Loa different from the Wild Gods. It's a bit like the August Celestials, or at least I think so. Last I heard they were the same kind of existance as a Wild God, but what made them whatever they are, and why only those four? Lastly, I'll forever be disappointed in Rastakhan's final confrontation with Zul. He paid his entire bloodline for fuck's sake! Is a powerful melee attack all he can do?! When he didn't even secure ANY benefits for his descendants? Sorry, dislike.

  • @TheDevbear
    @TheDevbear5 ай бұрын

    Bwonsamdi was the redeeming point of BFA. Something about him also gives off Disney's version of Hades from the animated Hercules 😅

  • @naquan59
    @naquan595 жыл бұрын

    That pink rapters quests are the main reason why didn't pick zuldazar to quest in fire @ 0:04.

  • @alistairknightsly440
    @alistairknightsly4404 жыл бұрын

    yo so like i was doing the unlock quest to have zandalari and in the final part where all the loa are as you leave zul jin is there but vanishes shortly after he comes into frame

  • @richardvelezjr5978
    @richardvelezjr59782 жыл бұрын

    or the bald jailer guy has a iq of 1000 and outsmarts all these villians lol

  • @Anderre_Belmont
    @Anderre_Belmont5 жыл бұрын

    Finally I can watch this video now that I've done all the questing. *Talks about more stuff I haven't done yet* Oh for fu...

  • @Nhylus
    @Nhylus5 жыл бұрын

    14:25 sounds a lot like the drums that play during N'zoth's bits in the Azshara cinematic

  • @arcyllisanaspergersgamer2367
    @arcyllisanaspergersgamer23675 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Nobbel. I am aware that this is unrelated to the video, but it’s the only way I can think of to contact ya. I have two suggestions for videos that you can do. The first: a video speculation on potential future stories that could bring Vol’jin back to the living. I know how much you disliked how they disposed of Vol’jin, and I think it’d be a fun project to see you and maybe other youtubers as well speculate on how he may return. The second is a request for a video that I looked for on KZread and searched on the web for, but to no avail. I am curious if you would be interested in making a voice acted machinima or at least writing a story on what would’ve been different had Kael’Thas not begun to use fel magic.

  • @chestnut4860
    @chestnut486011 ай бұрын

    17:19 He just becomes slightly more buff. I died.

  • @eagercadet4059
    @eagercadet40593 жыл бұрын

    Watching the video shows you how much the writing has changed or is now under a different writer, before BFA he was more solem and serious and also sincere. In BFA he is lighthearted, joking and scheming, it's not just the voice actor, the loa's character has been changed

  • @dornthememe7455
    @dornthememe74555 жыл бұрын

    Vol'jins voice brought back so many memories

  • @Stormy_Coyote
    @Stormy_Coyote2 жыл бұрын

    Bwonsamdi is awesome, but I can't help but laugh at a dream I had about him a while back. In my dream, I was sitting on a couch in some study like room, with a bookshelf full of old looking books. There was an old, 90's looking non-HD TV on a wooden table. Playing on the TV was Bwonsamdi being interviewed on some late night talk show. In it, he was saying how he would sit on the floor with his legs behind his head and hold his breath until he was light headed and blue in the face. Then he would get up and strut around while flapping his arms and clucking like a chicken. He went on to explain something like: "Dis technique enhances de natural powers already bestowed upon Bwonsamdi."

  • @novakins4205
    @novakins42054 жыл бұрын

    I love Bwonsamdi. So. Friggin. Much. "Won't ya shake a poor sinnah's hand?"

  • @drakiesaiko
    @drakiesaiko5 жыл бұрын

    really hoping you can do the story leading up to Uldir next, because as Alliance we have no clue what we're doing there

  • @nymri8537
    @nymri85375 жыл бұрын

    If what you're doing(in the end of the vid) is considered "rambling" by all means Nobbel87, ramble on till your hearts 100% content!!!! I love your videos and all your what if's!!!! :)

  • @attilatistyan4037
    @attilatistyan40375 жыл бұрын

    Nobbel what is your opinions on Pyromancers theory videos ? Im curious about that what you think of that

  • @gentlemandog4985
    @gentlemandog49855 жыл бұрын

    I wish I Jani could be my Loa, maybe even learn if she works with Grifta or not Ps. Happy to see Grifta doing well after legion.

  • @vidyamancer7135

    @vidyamancer7135

    5 жыл бұрын

    She? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • @edwardness7497

    @edwardness7497

    5 жыл бұрын

    she has 213M health, something very suss with that :D

  • @Zzazs
    @Zzazs4 жыл бұрын

    omg i love these cut scenes i never did em before easy a new fav npc lol

  • @Rakshiir
    @Rakshiir5 жыл бұрын

    I love this character in BfA, he is very interesting I am curious where this goes, where Vol'Jins story goes... oh I can't wait to see

  • @ghaulirontusk5800
    @ghaulirontusk58005 жыл бұрын

    I think it would be cool if voljin becomes the new loan of Kings or maybe he becomes the loa of the horde.

  • @BakaReviews
    @BakaReviews5 жыл бұрын

    he is by far the most standout and best character in this expansion in my personal opinion and i just fucking love his personality and just everything about him.

  • @Mediados
    @Mediados2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly everything about Troll culture is somehow very comforting and happy. You can choose your Loa to guide your path and follow your dreams, and even death only means that you meet your old friend Bwonsamdi as he brings you over to your ancestors.

  • @MorganRhysGibbons
    @MorganRhysGibbons5 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see some sort of Hakkar tie-in. Although i like the idea of Bwonsamdi as his own agent, he could be under Hakkar's "thumb", and we could end up helping him out from under it. nonetheless, i want Hakkar to show up and show G'hun and the blood trolls how to do some REAL blood magic.

  • @Fenris__
    @Fenris__3 жыл бұрын

    27:54 Shadowlands foreshadowing

  • @LagoonKnight
    @LagoonKnight5 жыл бұрын

    A shark Loa! We might see him in the tides patch hopefully that will be awesome!

  • @howardhavardramberg7160
    @howardhavardramberg71605 жыл бұрын

    I like the idea of undead progenitor races

  • @howardhavardramberg7160
    @howardhavardramberg71605 жыл бұрын

    Loa used to be tURTLES THAT MADE IT TO THE WATER

  • @glizzygoblin3362
    @glizzygoblin33625 жыл бұрын

    Hey nobbel! Me and the husband have been watching you for a couple years now and were wondering will you do a video on Nathanos? With him as sylvanas champion hes changed quite abit and idk much on who he really is or where he came from.

  • @Nobbel87

    @Nobbel87

    5 жыл бұрын

    I mentioned him a bit during the story of sylvanas/horde war campaign & a big chunk of his story is told in the Dark Mirror. I'll keep it in mind though! He's prob going to get some bigger char development during B4A, would make a fun video.

  • @aegoni6176
    @aegoni61765 жыл бұрын

    Hey nobbel! have u checked on bolvar the new lich king and the death knight classes since the legion expansion? u will be surprised! im telling u cz ur the best one to tell lores and stuffs cz i suck

  • @Wbfuhn
    @Wbfuhn2 жыл бұрын

    His character grew on me. I had no idea he was a chill and humorous dude in almost every way. He is a bit of a perv though.

  • @aturtlemadeittothewater4661
    @aturtlemadeittothewater46615 жыл бұрын

    I love Bwonsamdi.

  • @SlumdoggVII
    @SlumdoggVII2 жыл бұрын

    It still pissed me off Vul Jin just gets stabbed ny a faceless demon and just flmg dies! They give Wrynn this big cinematic bad ass death And Vul Jin gets stabbed....

  • @AnyMe223
    @AnyMe2235 жыл бұрын

    Neither Bwonsamdi, nor any other Loa, is in tandem with the Old Gods. Loa need the living to go on, and specially Bwonsamdi, he needs people to continue killing each other, and being born again. He cannot claim Old Gods's "souls." The Dark Empire coming back would only make him weaker in the long term

  • @funkyxii8496
    @funkyxii84963 жыл бұрын

    This guy is the best thing to come out of BFA fight me

  • @matnelen4235
    @matnelen42355 жыл бұрын

    BFA ending - Bwonsamdi redeems Sylvanas, She takes back Azshara's highborne (insert playable highborne), and Nathanos takes over undead.

  • @lolosh99

    @lolosh99

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know nathanos is undead but after the ritual he did is he... Bang-able ? 😂

  • @surv_val

    @surv_val

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lolosh99 he better be

  • @tuttut479
    @tuttut4795 жыл бұрын

    Where are you fighting the loa in the video? Thought I cleared all quests though ain't encountered that or even that location.

  • @Nobbel87

    @Nobbel87

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's a world quest offered in Zuldazar

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