"We must push little kart. PUSH!" - Heavy weapons guy, 2007

@JustTomYTreckless

2 жыл бұрын

Can you talk about the gwr crane tank i want to know about that engine

@ianjackson4721

2 жыл бұрын

WHO STOPPED PUSHING THE CART?! I WANT NAMES - Medic from the same game, I don’t know when.

@JustTomYTreckless

2 жыл бұрын

@@ianjackson4721 you mean tf2?

@ianjackson4721

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustTomYTreckless yes, but I don’t specifically know what year that voice-line is from

@sandvicheatfresh

2 жыл бұрын

TF2 reference for the win

It’s such a shame she wasn’t preserved. She would’ve stood out big time among the preservation movement, be it in a museum or running on a heritage line.

@eliotreader8220

2 жыл бұрын

apparently a few footplate crews at the time didn't like BR wanting to scrap the engine as they thought she should have been saved for the nation

@ConstantlyDamaged

2 жыл бұрын

Ugh. Every time I hear "taken to the yard and scrapped" it breaks my heart. For such a unique engine, though, twice as much.

@zacm.2342

2 жыл бұрын

She'd probably be stuck in the NRM due to her design, but still would've been lovely to have her still about even if she'd basically never move under her own steam again - only engine I'd be alright with that happening to, tbh.

@quigpig455

2 жыл бұрын

@@ConstantlyDamaged pfffft you really think people care about steam engines nope, they only care about the relevant ones, like flying Scotsman or mallard, you think they'd cared about the lbscr e2 tank engine, or a lner class x2, nope, they only cared about mallard but not empire of india

@ConstantlyDamaged

2 жыл бұрын

@@quigpig455 I mean, some people did and some still do, but that's not at all what I said. Reread the words I wrote and not your inference of them.

I've always admired the strength that Big Bertha had during her time. The fact that she went up and down Lickey over 2000 times just proves that she will always hold the title of the only engine to not be tricked by the Lickey Incline's trick.

@drewzero1

2 жыл бұрын

If I heard correctly, it was more like 200,000 times! That's about 15 times a day over 37 years (does that seem right?)

@arturochambers27

2 жыл бұрын

She was the most powerful locomotive and the power class was greater than a BR 9f engine. And adding that it took a 9f and a pannier or 4 panniers to take her place which shows how powerful she was.

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

2 жыл бұрын

I suppose a model should probably have two sets of traction tires to give an appropriate reactive effort.

@SportyMabamba

2 жыл бұрын

@@drewzero1 sounds about right, plenty of freight and coal went over the Lickey.

@GpunktHartman

2 жыл бұрын

I'am not clear about what "Big Bertha" means in Great Britain in that Time, i also not know anything about the Song. But what i know is that one of the biggest german Canon whas built by KRUPP and Nicknamed after Bertha Krupp ... and after the War several hughe Things ore Tools, a.s. 10kg Sledgehammers in a Forge also know as "Dicke Bertha" to make clear, now it will be noisy on the Anvil.

*Ten big wheels do roll her along* *Just a working girl on the Lickey* *Bertha's the name, in the hall of fame* *she was the only one of her kind* *the first and last on her line* -big bertha, Dave Goulder

@roadwolf2

2 жыл бұрын

She was Fowlers dream And was first in steam as 1920 dawned And she served her time on the 2 mile line Till the diesel age was born.

@melodoubt

2 жыл бұрын

@@roadwolf2 If a train should fail on the rising rail They'd summon Berthas power Then she'd ease them up to the Blackwell top In a quarter of an hour

@roadwolf2

2 жыл бұрын

@@melodoubt ten big wheels roll her along Just a working girl on the lickey Berthas her name in the hall of fame She was the only one of her kind The first and last of her line

I like the tender cab it had. Surprising not too many locomotives had that.

@eageraurora879

2 жыл бұрын

You think it'd be very useful if not convienent

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

2 жыл бұрын

@@eageraurora879 for a locomotive that spends half the time running tender first, it’s a good investment. In Germany, a fairly significant number of steam locomotives for branch-line service had them, due to the expensive of putting in a wye or turntable being a bit much for lightly-used lines.

@raymondleggs5508

2 жыл бұрын

Here int he US we call the cab a Doghouse.

@AmbroseB1900

2 жыл бұрын

The Somerset & Dorset Fowler 7Fs had a similar cab and were originally built with tender cabs like Big Bertha but the crews found that the rear cab made it difficult to use the longer firebox tools such as the pricker and so the tender cabs were removed. As they did spend some time going backwards across the Mendips in bad weather, the tender cab would have seemed a good idea!

@Saxtoo

2 жыл бұрын

And the 4F's did too. Homework lad, homework!

I'm surprised no one has tried to build a replica. It would fit perfectly into the National Railway Museum as a piece of history.

@johndunkle740

2 жыл бұрын

Scrapping it was horrible! You work hard all your life and then they destroy you. No respect! Should have been in a museum.

@jamesharding3459

2 жыл бұрын

@barnabyjoy A replica doesn’t necessarily have to be functional, and only some hardcore train autists would notice if it wasn’t perfect. A few thousand pounds worth of sheet metal and a few months of work by volunteers could probably produce a creditable mock-up as a museum piece.

@jamesharding3459

2 жыл бұрын

@barnabyjoy Museums build mock-ups all the time, why knock that one thing specifically? Not everything needs to, or should be, be perfectly efficient or the most optimized option.

@Colt45hatchback

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesharding3459 im not sure. Ive no interest in going to see a replica anything, unless its 100% accurate to the original and functional. Its like aircraft museums which have mock ups of fighter planes... They look like a 12 year old built them, they dont work, they cant be fixed up to fly again, its just junk taking up space. Id rather see a broken real one than a shitty fake. Example, there is a loosly gathered collection of nakajima ki43 parts in the australian war memorial. Thats interesting, you can see how its constructed, the individual components, the layout, the method of construction etc. If it were a complete plane replica it would look like the plane on the outside, but its just wood and tin with some paint, no different to looking at a model. Nothing to see. Just the shape

@jamesharding3459

2 жыл бұрын

@barnabyjoy I never said it was a good idea, merely not a patently absurd one.

I'm sad that big Bertha wasn't preserved until today But I get it,it was used as a banker and a banker only, she has a place in our hearts

Well, Bertha was always lovely machine, either locomotive or machine.

@flamedude_1111

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@lizzard3699

2 жыл бұрын

35 seconds into the video and cqme to comment on that 😂 glad someone else heard it too 👍

@thedrifterman5653

2 жыл бұрын

Yesssss

The steam equivalent of a powerlifter.

"We should take Bikini Bottom, and PUSH it somewhere else!"

A machine was designed to do exactly one thing, and it did that one thing well. That actually describes quite a lot of modern machinery.

Bertha was loved by everyone. People would come from all over the world just to see her

_I hear that background music, I bet you weren't expecting someone who'd WATCHED THE SHOW AS A CHILD, DID YA?_ That was a really pleasant surprise for a very nice video, perfect for my train of thought to catch on!

Fascinating! I have visited the Lickey Hills on a number of occasions - but never been near the railway line. This is a piece of historic interest for anybody with a love of trains!

Good thing her doctor didnt forbid her from pushing

@qaisismail2662

2 жыл бұрын

Good one

@BelcarrigFarm

2 жыл бұрын

But her doctor forbid her to pull

@davidantoniocamposbarros7528

2 жыл бұрын

@@BelcarrigFarm pushing 🅿 has a cost of not pulling 🅿. It's a sad reality 😔

What impeccable timing, I was just listening to Dave Goulder's song "Big Bertha" about the same engine last night!

Good video as always, but just one point I want to make- The town of Derby, where the major railway works is, is pronounced "Darby"

@tomlee9534

2 жыл бұрын

Such an easy thing to have got right.

@indiekiddrugpatrol3117

Жыл бұрын

@@tomlee9534 exactly, I've never heard an Englishman mispronounce Derby before

It’s a real shame that this one of a kind loco was scrapped! A very interesting video - thank you 🙂

Bertha is one of my favorite steam locomotive for this exact reason

Loving the theme use of the often forgotten children's classic "Bertha"

Again, unbelievably fitting use of music! The Bertha theme song REALLY suits her.

I have good memories of Bertha, watching her at Blackwell station with school mate’s, the driver always tooted to us on the way up and back down, was a sad day when she stopped working, she was a huge locomotive and one of a kind. A pity she wasn’t saved for preservation, probably because she wasn’t the prettiest of locomotives also she retired a lot earlier than other preserved locos, but still a shame.

"Bertha, lovely Bertha. You are a lovely machine. And anyone who works with you will know just what I mean.."

forgive me if i'm wrong, but that is a seriously impressive working life. i did a quick calculation, according to wikipedia, the lickey incline, where big bertha worked, was 3.2 kilometres long, meaning, at the very most, she went up and down that incline over her working life some 421,877 times. she worked roughly 13,514 days (37 years). if thats the case, and mind you i know this is too many, but still. she went up and down that incline about 32 times per day

@Simon-Davis

2 жыл бұрын

The incline itself is 2 miles long (3.2km) but the crossovers to travel back down and then at the bottom to get to the rear of the next train up were some distance away top and bottom. A typical trip was closer to 4 miles each way, or 8 miles round trip for each climb; plus the run to Bromsgrove shed for water/coaling a few times a day.

@chelsie9834

2 жыл бұрын

@@Simon-Davis oh yeah, 100%. it was only a quick and *very* rough estimate. i might sit down one day and try and calculate it properly. but yeah thanks for the insight!

@ThePsiclone

2 жыл бұрын

@@chelsie9834 if you do, include the total altitude gain too

Bertha was a cool engine, always would love to see a model of her... Love the Bertha theme in the background as well.

@polbecca

Жыл бұрын

There is a model of Big Bertha, in the warehouse of the National Railway Museum in York. The model is nearly three feet long and is fully functional, and took its creator 15 years to build.

The fact that you added the “Bertha” song is just great

Whilst Lickey Bank is steep it was never the steepest adhesion worked incline in regular use. That honour was shared by the Ballochney Incline and the Causeway End Incline, both of which were 1 in 23 compared to the Lickey's 1 in 37. Both of these Scottish inclines lost their passenger services in 1st May 1930.

@neiloflongbeck5705

2 жыл бұрын

@Ralph Freeman yes, that's steep but I was only considering lines that had passenger services on a regular basis.

@garryferrington811

2 жыл бұрын

If you guys keep going you're going to get into cog and cable railways.

@cr10001

2 жыл бұрын

@Ralph Freeman For what it's worth, the Bernina line in Switzerland is also 1 in 14 continuous all the way from Poschiavo up to the Lago Bianco at the head of the pass. That's almost 4000 feet (vertical) of climb, with 2--chain radius curves. All adhesion worked. If you stand on the platform at Poschiavo you can see it start up the slope at what looks like an impossible gradient. I agree it's amazing.

@Satters

2 жыл бұрын

Mersey Tunnel GB has a section of 1 in 23 still in passenger service

@neiloflongbeck5705

2 жыл бұрын

@@Satters I thought in was 1 in 27.

Yeah, Big Bertha could break records with its torque, but the 9F’s could do the work in a similar manner AND could pull passenger trains up to 90mph consistently.

@professorjamesmoriarty5191

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronal8824 common practice until BR put a stop to it.

As an aside,Big Emma,was actually based off the Italian Railways,Plancher Compounds,and they did fairly well,on home grounds too! And since Italy is loaded with some fairly heavy gradients,they were rather common! Of course the Midland had much experience with Compounds,as there main passenger engine,was the 4-4-0,900 series Compound,plus the protype,number 1000,and it's successors! Anyway,thank you for the forum!! Thank you 😊!

Somehow, I knew you'd do a video with Bertha. But still, quite an impressive mileage for her. Traveling up and down the Lickey incline presumably 209,000 times!

Definitely a different concept, but interesting none the less

That would be neat if Big Bertha was preserved in a museum.

curious video, cool engine. Have you considered covering the uintah narrow gauge railway? Just saying, 7% inclines and 60° curves, with articulated steam engines on narrow gauge.

@scottraymond4582

2 жыл бұрын

They should consider all the narrow gauge railway in Utah

you know, something i find amazing about the stories told on this channel, is that they often have *morals*

so sad this loco was not saved hope fully same one builds a new one great video 🚂👍

Man I wish bertha could have been preserved. She would look amazing in a museum display

@Satters

2 жыл бұрын

Please type carefully, it is "could have", or "could've" if you you must, but not "could of"

Just like Edward and Bertha,they very good in back engine

she would of been given the power classification of 9f if she ever did get one

@Satters

2 жыл бұрын

"would have" or "would've" not "would of"

@8213_productions

2 жыл бұрын

@@Satters your the only one getting bothered of how some people type?

Bertha, lovely Bertha. You are a lovely machine….

If you can only do one thing, then make sure no one can do it better.

I'd just noticed that you put Mainland's 'Bertha' theme in the background! A very nice touch, good sir!

I was lucky enough to have a cab ride up and down the bank in 1956 (just in time!) I was only 11 years old! magnificent experience.Alton Towers, eat your heart out

Talk about a tale, bummer that she didn't get preserved, but at least she isn't forgotten

The proverbial “Brick House” by the Commodores equivalent of train engines. Ironically, the standardized X-X-X wheel configuration naming convention is compatible with the Bust x Waist x Hips measurement referenced in the song. 🤔😜

The Bertha theme at the end was just too perfect

Thank you Bertha/Emma for all your hard work! Thanks for bringing this loco to light.

I love just listening to your voice...

Nice background music. Glad to see that somebody else remembers that brilliant TV Show.

Oh bertha. What a lovely machine.

Bertha. What a lovely machine.

Interesting loco and history, however Derby is pronounced Darby

Bertha, lovely Bertha. Good choice of background music.

love this engine, very unique

the Bertha theme song in the background made me laugh

Another excellent one! Great stuff.

this is basically the heavy from tf2 but in train form. Epik B)

That back ground music 🎶 so good.

Very interesting and love that you used the theme tune from “Bertha”

Extra,the steepest grade in the US,was Saluda,on the Southern Railway[US],and the also had 10 coupled engines running up and down it! However,the engines were 2-10-0's and 2-10-2's,both originally developed by the AT&SF,in the modern era! Anyway,this is a historical note! Thank you!

Steepest section of main line track, the Cromford and High Peak Railway had a 1 in 14 gradient regularly worked by steam locomotives, even if with only 3 wagons in tow

Love the Bertha theme in the background!!

Lol, I’m glad you used what you did for the background music.🎵

Fascinating video harvey :)

The older I get, the more I see of people - the more I love good dogs and old machinery.

If only this engine had been preserved.

The Big Bertha theme was a nice touch!

“Bertha lovely Bertha, you are a lovely machine...”

Thanks to this tough gal, I was able to think of a name for my alpha goodra in arceus, here's to you big Bertha! Your legacy lives on!

Love the outro theme👌

Love your choice of music.

I love how tiny and cute UK steam engines are am an American who lives near a lot of historic Pennsy stuff.

Northern Pacific bought two 2-10-0 locos in 1886 for use on switchbacks ("Zig-Zags" in Australia) up and over Stampede Pass in Washington state. The statistics are remarkable: boiler pressure of only 150 psi, 46 inch diameter drivers, and yet 34,800 lbs of tractive effort and 133,000 lbs on the drivers, which was amazing performance when 2-8-0 was pulling most freight and even some passenger trains in the USA. NP would put both on one train, which indicates the steepness of gradients on the switchbacks that preceded Stampede Tunnel. Apparently they exceeded the expectations that the NP had for them, because they survived long after Stampede Tunnel was completed om 1888 -- they were kept working into the early 1930s as heavy yard switchers; most likely they were declared surplus when business dropped during the Great Depression. The NP Decapods are similar in a lot of ways to the one-off Midland 0-10-0.

having the theme for the bertha show really suited the video

Love the use of the Bertha theme, very creative. (also because I like the song lol)

When we work out what you have to do, you can always get the trains up, always get the trains up, we can depend upon you.

A surprisingly pretty locomotive

Nice showing Papyrus in the beginning. IIRC Still holds the record for fastest non-streamlined loco

Mixed traffic engines exist even though all engines (except for ones without couplings) can pull both passengers and freight meaning that every engine is mixed traffic.

Absolute unit.

im especially fond of the pusher engines built. amongst the most beautiful are the mallet tank locomotives built by the gotthardbahn type scb ed 2x3/3 in my opinion. another special one is the DB BR96. due to them all be one trick ponys with issues they all got withrawn even in the mountainous alps. hovever they all set records in tractive effort managing incline and steep turns while being massive and sporting huge torque. really like your video.

Big Bertha pushing 🅿️

Nice berthra refrience at the end

I saw this loco. once in the late 1950’s during a Derby Works visit, sadly after withdrawal.

I wish we had Big Birtha still alive, would be awesome to see it actually pull trucks and coaches and go top speed.

And now that theme song's stuck in my head

BR: ‘This is a one of a kind steam engine that has captured the hearts and minds of enthusiasts for nearly 35 years! Its rather special.’ Also BR: ‘Fuck she’s expensive…… off to the scrapyard with you then! Good days work on British Railways I say!’

The guns on that girl! Seriously, the four cylinders and the ten drive wheels make it readily apparent that she was built for power. She's a brick... house...

@stephenhunter70

2 жыл бұрын

The upper two "cylinders" are actually "piston Valves"!

@templar_1138

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenhunter70 In any event, she's mighty mighty.

Reminds me of the later diesel electric shunters found working mines.

The Erie railroad’s Triplex had the same job, even though it was meant for pulling it ended up being used for “helping” trains up hills. Poor thing was scrapped. I wish it would’ve been saved for a museum.

Niche but very much appreciated end music!

Bertha, lovely Bertha...

Damn, now I want a model of Big Bertha

It's a shame we never had a chance to preserve Bertha, but I do wonder what ever happened to that headlight. It likely lasted into an era where its history was appreciated, but I haven't even heard of when that 9F was withdrawn.

England's only honest banker.

0:18 I’ve heard of trains pulled by steam locomotives sometimes needing double heading, sometimes even triple heading, but I have NEVER heard about quadruple heading!

Of course you would use the theme from the Bertha TV series.

The Lickey was steep but not as steep as the Hopton Incline on the Cromford and High Peak Railway at 1 in 14.

We all wish she was preserved

I can imagine a Thomas and Friends character with this basis named "Big Bertha"

How can we make a train that can pull trains up hills Midland railway : *PUSH*