"they say that I'm old fashioned, but I don't care" -Edward

@Jacy-dx6dx

2 ай бұрын

Scotland's 123:

Duke: this will suit his grace

@DudeyTheDude

2 жыл бұрын

do you see, that model is very similiar to molly's model

@jordanscherr6699

2 жыл бұрын

Watch that pride sir! It WILL come back to bite you.

*Charles Collett, a locomotive designer Madlad*

@UnitSe7en

2 жыл бұрын

He can ring my bell-ell-ell. Ring my bell.

@sarahmartiniom

Жыл бұрын

K

American trolling: Haha, we covered your house in toilet paper! German trolling: **literally blows up house** British trolling:

@o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398

2 жыл бұрын

Coincidence that those are the nations that are currently in the default three TS add ons?

@angeloalvarez8828

2 жыл бұрын

They do a little trolling

@monarchvh8593

2 жыл бұрын

Welsh Trolling; *tf do you pronounce this*

@davidantoniocamposbarros7528

2 жыл бұрын

They commited a act of annoyance

@TheMusicalElitist

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 An*

Despite their comical appearance, I’ve seen a few of their time sheets and the logs of the runs they did. These things were no joke. Powerful (for their size), tough, and light makes for a formidable combination, who would’ve thought?

@sockshandle

2 жыл бұрын

Just about every railroad in the United States up till like the 50s (possibly longer given N&W’s decision to hold onto their steam locomotives

Am I the only person who thinks they actually look really nice?

@lukeslocomotives

2 жыл бұрын

Nope

@TankEngine75

2 жыл бұрын

Nah

@leifvejby8023

2 жыл бұрын

No, they don't look bad at all, but they do not look exactly modern after 1936 standard.

@johndavies9270

2 жыл бұрын

I like them too!

@davidantoniocamposbarros7528

2 жыл бұрын

No

LNER aristocrats: let us present to you our newest class of express engines, the A4! *A4 pulls into the station impressively* GWR aristocrats: let us show you OUR newest engine, the Earl class! *Earl trundles into the station like some sort of Great Western Edward* GWR aristocrats: ... LNER aristocrats: *BRUH* Charles Collett: laughing his ass off in the background

@vtr0104

2 жыл бұрын

We can laugh now, but the fact that they lasted into the 60s says a lot about the design and shows this wasn't some random hack-job.

@robertwilloughby8050

2 жыл бұрын

To be totally fair, an LNER director had his name put on a B1. And he was happy about it, being a fairly modest Scot.

@obamagameradventures

2 жыл бұрын

Charles Collett be like: *we do a little trolling!*

@cr10001

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertwilloughby8050 Not just that, but NINE of the A4's were named after directors or senior officers of the LNER.

@robertwilloughby8050

2 жыл бұрын

@@cr10001 I know. Sickening, isn't it? If they'd all been like Samuel Strang Steel, we wouldn't be quite so annoyed at them now......

You know what this reminds me of, "Bongo"

@sebastianthomsen2225

2 жыл бұрын

:D

@eeeby_deeby

2 жыл бұрын

ha the B1s "Bongos"

@Wheeljack214

Жыл бұрын

Hehehehe..."Galloping Sausage"...

It's always a lovely story when you have a class that survived into the 60s. Then equally mind-boggling if you have one that survived into the 60s and then went extinct.

@aphotographerfromcaliforni2661

2 жыл бұрын

Basically most of the Norfolk and Western’s steam fleet here in the US

@thegamingrhino5864

2 жыл бұрын

@@aphotographerfromcaliforni2661 thats a really good way of putting it lmao. That can be said for the Wabash and NYC as well

@sockshandle

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegamingrhino5864 and basically all of the L&N (Louisville and Nashville) Fleet excluding a few carriages (for example a Combine car and a few coaches at the Kentucky Railway Museum and like One pacific class engine (which isn’t that big

@NoaZeevi

2 жыл бұрын

One still exists.

As a child of about 8 or 9 I remember seeing one of the last two surviving Dukedogs, sitting on the centre road at the old Aberystwyth station. They've fascinated me ever since. About twenty minutes later I met one of the Vale of Rheidol engines - having never seen an outside framed engine (I grew up beside the Trent Valley main line) I was profoundly puzzled as to why neither engine had any wheels..... So there is a 50/50 chance that the engine I saw is the preserved example.

Ya gotta love a good under "dog" story from time to time. Im sure the Chief Engineer there was fed up with all of the "Bull" he had to put with at work. Luckily he didnt end up "duking" it out with anybody over it. Okay ill stop now.

@jacobmcdorman6859

2 жыл бұрын

No, keep going

The GWR directors were probably less unhappy than you might think, because the Great Depression was on, and Collet wrung new life out of old parts. Rather the way the Great Northern Railway (U.S.A.) converted old Mallet locos into the heaviest 2-8-2 locomotives ever built, the Class O-8, also in the 1930s. Hard times call for desperate measures.

I'd have no gripe if one of those locos were named after me - they're beautiful.

@quillmaurer6563

2 жыл бұрын

We think of this now, but at the time they were seen as obsolete. The modern version might be naming a fleet of rusty old SD40-2s after company directors, who would rather their names be put on flashy new ES44C4s or something. SD40-2s are still great locomotives after all these years, but don't have the prestige of modernness.

So the Duke class had worn out parts and the Bulldog class was being retired so parts of the latter were used to upgrade the former? That's one way to utilize the resources at hand.

Beginning: engineer tf2 laughs at prince george

@technoandrew

2 жыл бұрын

‘Old rich guy’ actually being the character Prince George from the sitcom ‘Blackadder’, played by Hugh Laurie.

@TankEngine75

2 жыл бұрын

@@technoandrew Hugh Laurie is a great actor

@stationmasterkuma

2 жыл бұрын

@@technoandrew fixed :p

1:51 *FERGUS IN THE BACKGROUND*

Well, they did know how to save money. And they were evidently good engines. Pretty funny way to get one's own back at the directors.

I remember them going out of service but I never managed to see one in BR use. I was too young to see the last of the Bird class Bulldogs. It had never occurred to me that there was any intent to have 'un petit rire' at the directors...I'm so innocent and I knew that loco naming was very quirky to the point of insensitiveness anyway. Take Bongo and Pretty Polly for a start and the GWR once had an absorbed loco carrying the name 'Terrible'.

@nicholasalexander4743

2 жыл бұрын

Bongo is the sixth locomotive of the LNER B1 'Antelope' class, 36 of which were named after 35 different species of antelope. Pretty Polly, a Gresley A1 of April 1925, carried the name of the winner of the 1904 St. Leger stakes at Doncaster, as part of the LNER tradition of naming top-link engines after classic race-winning horses. No fewer than eight Royal Navy warships have borne the name 'HMS Terrible', in the years between 1694-1947. The GWR 'Atbara' class locomotive of that name refers to the second of the two 'Powerful' class protected cruisers built in the 1890s. The first cruiser, 'Powerful', also gave its name to a locomotive of this class. I'm at quite a loss to see why any of these categories of locomotive names should be considered either quirky or insensitive.

The one Dukedog that was preserved (9017 Earl Of Berkeley) uses the frames of Bulldog 4-4-0 no 3425 and the boiler of Duke 4-4-0 no 3282 Chepstow Castle.

Bongos got a Sequel

@alexomega0622

2 жыл бұрын

Bongos 2: Day of the Dukedogs

@eaglewolffox6275

Жыл бұрын

​@@alexomega0622yup

him: explains about the names of random trains the music: *undertale intensifies*

@TankEngine75

2 жыл бұрын

And also TF2 Engineer at the beginning lmao

@manitoba-op4jx

2 жыл бұрын

@@TankEngine75 tf2 > unterdale

@TankEngine75

2 жыл бұрын

@@manitoba-op4jx Yes

I dunno how appreciated rws/Thomas comments are around here, but man I wonder if this means Duke being a "bulldog" was awdry using Linda's leap to make a pun, after ALREADY naming Duke because of a story that was based on the name of the original dukes

Kinda reminds me of the sileightie. Back in the 90s in Japan drifting/street racing was very popular and a popular choice was the Nissan 180sx. However if said owner of 180sx were to somehow damage the front end he would be left with a couple of choices of how to repair it. They could buy the 180sx front end but the 180sx happened to share the same chassis as the S13 silva which happened to be cheaper. Due to this it wasn't uncommon to see a 180sx with a S13 front end and such examples of these cars were nicknamed sileightie's a combination of the names Silvia and 180sx.

Had the pleasure of seeing the preserved Dukedog running at the Bluebell Railway in the past. Currently out of ticket waiting for overhaul I believe?

@mattlander9119

2 жыл бұрын

Correct

@BenBensonStudios

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Last ran in 2011. There are plans to overhaul it though.

I find it interesting that they give steam engines unusual names but interesting names.

Is it weird for me to say a locomotive looks hot? XD Ok but jokes aside, its quite rare finding a sleek looking locomotive that is also reliable. there is just something about the Earl class that just looks so great, so right. Its as if the Duke and bulldog classes were meant to be fused.

I love the GWR Dukedogs! Also TF2 Engineer at the beginning lol

The theme music for Sans from Undertale was PERFECT for this video. Props to you, dude!

Glad to see pepole from back in the day also had a sense of humor

The A4s: cutting edge high speed express locomotives The Earls: cut and shuts

Not a GWR fan, but I have to admit the Dukedogs (and their predecessor Dukes) had a distinctive character.

Duck : duke dog Peter Sam and sir Handel : DUKE HAS A DOG

Duck: that's The great western Way

@bobthebusbuilder2478

2 жыл бұрын

It sure is

@Bigbigpoopi

2 жыл бұрын

Look at 1:10 , left side

@Eledia_

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bigbigpoopi bruh what the hell

@TankEngineMedia

2 жыл бұрын

It’s duck

These were literally Edward's brothers and sisters lmao

@ZAV1944

2 жыл бұрын

Edward was a Furness Railway K2.

I can imagine the reactions hahahah Love this channel

the design is absolutely beautiful I love it sooo much

Love these videos mate

I love you, I am subscribing to your channel because you used the Engineer from TF2, and Hugh Laurie as Prince George from Black Adder Season 3 in the same video and that is beautiful.

I honestly like the look of the Dukedogs, they give me FR K2 vibes :)

@Wheeljack214

Жыл бұрын

Long live Edward!!

I love these videos.

Duck: But I keep telling you, there are no dukes! They were fine and stately, but they've all been scrapped!

The company owners should be glad they got locomotives named after them - if people were really spiteful they could have named goods wagons after them. And the CEO or whatever the big cheese's title is could have a works train lavatory car named for him.

@MrToradragon

2 жыл бұрын

Well there is one such example of people naming wagons after some important figure out of spite. But it is from Czechoslovakia. In 80's ČSD had ordered carriages from Eastern Germany and they are so awful to board that they are nicknamed Honecker's Revenge, or simply Honeckers, after then chancellor of East Germany.

How to troll le GWR: Step 1: use Bulldog frame Step 2: Use top of Duke class Step 3: Le troll GWR U mad m8?

I have found new respect for Charles Collett, on top of his already formidable achievements. 'E stuck it up 'em, 'e did.

Of course, it would be everyone's turn to laugh at Collett's expense with his disastrous introduction of the 56xx.

@NMCAR2006

2 жыл бұрын

Wait…What was up with the 56xx? From what I heard it was the most successful tank engine design ever created.

@abloogywoogywoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@NMCAR2006 They were. Collett wanted a machine that would derail at every opportunity. The Welshmen called them "Pigs".

@NMCAR2006

2 жыл бұрын

@@abloogywoogywoo ohhhhhhh. I gotcha.

They can say what they want, 9017 looks pretty good in that shiny black livery

The irony is, these double-framed engines dating back to the Dean era in design terms, had very strong frames whereas Churchward's more modern locomotives did not- and this problem was not rectified until Hawksworth created the "Modified Hall" class in 1944. Churchward's excellent 4300 moguls were already being used as donors for the Grange class in 1936 and a little later, the Manors as presumably, the frames were badly fatigued. Using these sturdy frames and attaching a lighter pre-Churchward boiler was a good idea and the fact they lasted until 1960 proves it even if they looked antiquated.

Duck: Dukes were fine and stately, but they've all been scraped.

I had wondered how they got their names. Apparently the GWR built many Hall class locomotives they were struggling for names by the time the last one were built.

Is it just me or do i like the design and name

Never thought I'd subscribe to a train channel

Oh come on, this music should clearly have been saved about the Rainhill Trials locomotive "Sans Pareil".

I like how he used The Engineer from TF2 in the video. Edit (2023): also, one of my Thomas OC’s is based off of the GWR Earl Class.

Wow that was comprehensive detailed and interesting. Tell me you are writing a book!!!!!

“There are no Dukes!” - Montague “Duck”

This looks like city of turo if someone was discribing it to you but can’t exactly make it obvious

God I live British humor

How very interesting , thanks 👍

Bongos distant cousin

Great!

Just goes to show that in the 1930s the GWR must have been quite short of cash. The relatively impoverished Highland Railway managed to build four 4-6-0 designs up to 1923 (excluding th the larger and heavier Rivers) which would probably have been within the weight limitations of the Cambrian lines. With a larger boiler and three driving axles a locomotive this size would have been a very decent power upgrade on the Dukedogs. It was not many more years before the GWR itself built the similarly-sized Grange and Manor lightweight 4-6-0s for its secondary lines.

How to make a dukedog: grab a bulldog, rip off the chassis, slap a Duke base on there and boom you have a dukedog How to make an A4: grab a streamlined A3 rip off the chassis for later and find streamlining kits, use the kit for the A4 streamlining and make sure the bufferbeam is curved and the buffers can fit, and now place the chassis on and paint the wheels of your desired colour and make sure the outside cylinders are the colour of the body (minus the smokebox, it’s always black) and bada bing bada boom you have an A4

Grillbz said he would offer you a glass of water, but he doesn't touch the stuff.

My all time favourite locomotive

From the same people that brought you "bongos", prepare for: Dukedogs Edit: for a video suggestion,how about a video talking about the Franco Crosti 9Fs?

@robertwilloughby8050

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the "Frankly Crustys". Possibly one of the most hated engine sub-classes of all time.

@davidantoniocamposbarros7528

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertwilloughby8050 hated? How come they're hated?

@tooleyheadbang4239

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertwilloughby8050 I wasn't aware that they were 'hated'. The poor forward vision was unpopular. ...And, of course, no matter how many times you say 'it isn't a feed-water heater... it isn't a feed-water heater', the Franco-Crosti boiler is STILL a feed-water heater.

@robertwilloughby8050

2 жыл бұрын

@@tooleyheadbang4239 Oh, I (mostly) agree with you on that last point, but the water circulation in the boiler was appalling, so bad that the Franco-Crosti's had to be fire raised first on a morning, or else they wouldn't get to their jobs. Also that nasty chemical s - usually sulphur compounds - befouled the superheater elements due to the halting of the normal steam circuit, leading to superheater failure.

Sans theme fits perfectly

No one remembers company executives for decades unless they get trolled in a most excellent manner !

nice

1:16: My favorite train, The 57XX Is in the background

Rich virgins: “NOOO, YOU CAN’T NAME A LOCOMOTIVE CLASS!!! IT’S AN ABSOLUTE HORRID NAME!!!!!” Middle class chads: “hahahaha dukedog go brrrrrr”

I think these engines should also be called 'Frankensteins' because that what they essentially are.

@Mamorufumio

2 жыл бұрын

i think there already was a 'frankenstein' class of engine by this time

You know there is trolling about when San’s theme is being used in the video

Can you do a video on the Blue Circle please?

Yeah, I learned that early on. Be careful of what you wish for, because it might actually happen.

Could you make a video about LNWR Claughtons? I've found some very conflicting reports about their performance and it would be interesting to find out the truth.

@robertwilloughby8050

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, will second that. But for comparisions sake he ought to do the L&Y Rebuilt Hughes Dreadnoughts after it (not the original Dreadnoughts, of course, for obivous reasons 😉).

Who let the dogs out? Dukes, dukes, dukes...

Blue Circle traction engine in the background.

"We do a bit of trolling" - the GWR probably

Coffee Pots in my neck of the woods.

Collett was a clever man.

Yes at the beginning there was a engineer gaming

epic

Was there anything left but cracked and warped metal by 1960? They ran these engine parts to the very end. Recycling before it was cool.

Imagine being the guy a wikam trolley named after

Dukedog: BOI IM CONFUSED WTF? Duke: this will never suit his grace

1:44 I think this is in Didcot. I live there and as its the base of the GWR museum that building looks frightfully familiar. 😂

@TankEngineMedia

2 жыл бұрын

Nice

These are fun

British do be doing a little bit of trolling

I heard the class was originally going to be called "The Capitalist Running Dog Parasites Living Off The Labours Of The Proletariat Class".

New Zealand is just full of those trains

Do you have a link for the picture of the Dukedog with the Blue Circle in the background?

Please talk about the merchant navy’s!!!

That's top level shithousery right there!

Name suggestion: Frankenstein Class

Yes

I wouldn’t be surprised if they name a new engine “Dildoshire” or “Condomwealth Of Erectville” today. 🤣🤣🤣

What the dog doin

I never knew what that music is. Can someone send me a link to that song?

That Undertale music tho:D

What da Dukedog doin