I literally do not know what I would have done without Dr. Jetelina these past couple years, and especially now that so much other COVID coverage has gone out the window. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

@Lp78Ch

Жыл бұрын

If hospitals are overrun EVERY winter! Maybe they are under staffed😂 when I was an ICU nurse we were FULL every winter it’s NOT abnormal

@billgates-qi9st

Жыл бұрын

spot on mate, thats exactly right. talk about refusing to see the elephant in the room

How about the vaccine injured? I would like to hear your take on that

I was the only one in my knitting group masked yesterday. One woman tested positive for covid later that day. I’m glad for any reduction in risk the mask gave me. Thanks to both of you for your advocacy and communication.

@pei8136

Жыл бұрын

Good for your wise choice of masking up. It’s an easy and effective mitigation method!

@kathybrady4033

Жыл бұрын

N95?

@joannawarrens5117

Жыл бұрын

@@kathybrady4033 kn95 I know an n95 is better but the head straps are so uncomfortable. I had a lovely time and knew the risks. 🤷‍♀️

@ready4reiki

Жыл бұрын

@@joannawarrens5117 because you are crafty I will share this. I sew fleece ear straps on to my N95’s. You could even use fabric from an old sweatshirt etc. I know what you mean about the straps being uncomfortable. This helps for sure. I’m happy to hear you’re wearing a mask regardless of KN95 or N95. It is better then nothing. You would not get as high a viral load with either one. And hopefully not get it at all.

@joannawarrens5117

Жыл бұрын

@@ready4reiki great tip

Thank you Dr. Jetalina I hope that those people who troll you and others will stop and adjust their thinking and stop threatening people

I never heard of Katelyn Jetelina. She's such a great educator and presenter. Thank you!!

Just to add to the chorus... her newsletter is do-not-miss!

Can I ask why we are spending so much attention on COVID when the senior population I work with is just as vulnerable to equally transmissible and dangerous viruses like viral pneumonia, Norwalk, influenza etc? If we are truly concerned, maybe we should test for all of them and not just COVID?

@somewhatinformed1208

Жыл бұрын

viruses `thrive in moist warm environment called the nose, wearing a mask not only increases the virus affecting people but the masks itself is the best way to transfer it from room to room. Biden has already funded more gain of function viruses at labs in the heart of citys. never been a flu or covid vaccine made or taken. don't call shots vaccines. there is a reason it has always been called a flu shot instead of a vaccine. remember vaccines work.

@dawncondonconnectedlivingy4543

Жыл бұрын

@@somewhatinformed1208 Thanks you. However, that is not what I was asking about. I have to be swabbed for COVID whenever I enter a long term care facility. My question was, why are we focusing on only COVID when other viruses are equally transmissible and dangerous to vulnerable populations?

@beverlystone4513

Жыл бұрын

Because people aren't afraid enough of the other viruses. With COVID, this was a plandemic of hype to get people willing to take a vaccine. DARPA discussed this in 2012.

@somewhatinformed1208

Жыл бұрын

@@dawncondonconnectedlivingy4543 they were testing for other viruses because there is no covid virus test. Even they inventor of the nose swab said it would not detect covid it would only detect viruses if he'd been around anyone with a virus it would show up. Somehow he died a few days later after he made it clear they do not have a way to test for covid only his test which calls everything covid. He pretty much said if you get tested for covid they're going to find something and call it covid.

@livthedream5885

Жыл бұрын

Could it have to do with prevalence?

This was a great presentation. I was lucky enough to have stumbled upon Dr Jetelina very early in the pandemic. I work with the elderly and those living with dementia. I copied her newsletters whenever she posted because I felt she had her finger on the pulse of the disease and wrote in clear, understandable English AND backed up her thoughts with real science studies, which gave my clients a way to understand what was happening, In 2020 there was so much misinformation clouding the horizon and I found her to be a beacon of light! I continue to value her knowledge. Thanks!

@francesschaefer

Жыл бұрын

Yes!!! I am a fan since an acquaintance on Facebook who has severe autoimmune disorder posted her newsletter. I have kept up ever since

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

a beacon of light!

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

@@One--Up -- "The coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is primarily transmitted through viral particles that float in the air or through droplets containing virus. Even people who are infected but do not have symptoms, or have not yet developed symptoms, can infect others. Masks reduce the amount of virus we breathe in and breathe out. Combined with the vaccines and boosters, masks provide a one-two punch that reduces the risk of spread. Masks also provide protection for the wearer, even those who are fully vaccinated."

As far as your last question about preaching to the choir, please keep doing what you are doing. Yes, maybe the people who follow you are already "believers" but we also do pass on the information to many others. You are making a difference!

I subscribed to her newsletter on Substack quite awhile ago. So nice to hear her here. She really does have a talent for alleviating confusion by integrating lots of overwhelming information, into a way that dispels confusion. Her superpower? Please have her back on in the future.

I follow and really appreciate YLE. Given her concern about long Covid, I find it odd that she is not masking more. Would like to hear her address that specifically.

@lisazammit6534

Жыл бұрын

I think she has beaten that horse to death. If you know, you mask. It's a simple behavior that really shouldn't need to be explained yet again.

@robertschrader

Жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as long covid.

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

@@robertschrader - Huh? Oh, a bot!

@elmuchogrumpy

Жыл бұрын

That's what I was wondering and troubled by. You literally know that there could be potentially long term health ramifications to getting infected and yet you choose to go unmasked? I hope she realizes how much of a hypocrite she sounds. I agree with the other guy and his behavior in terms of high quality masking when in public or indoors. No idea why she has given up despite having so much knowledge about the mechanism and the science. Keep masking everyone!

@snuder9832

Жыл бұрын

@@lisazammit6534 As a retired medical professional, I can tell you that cloth masks are useless in preventing anything; surgical masks are designed to protect the incision, so on the exhale, not the inhale; N 95 masks protect on inhalation, but not exhalation….sort of like a one way valve works.

If I pay for my medical education at UCSF with suitcases full of cash, will the university inform the Internal Revenue Service?

I started including her YLE posts in my COVID newsletter for clinical personnel and students about to go into clinical rotations. She is so very clear and educational. THANK YOU!!!

I like very much listening to Dr. Jetelina. Thank you SO MUCH.

Antigen tests are not picking up positives for new variant as easily. I tested negative 4 times before Thanksgiving with symptoms and all were negative (1 a day) before I got very sick the day after Thanksgiving and tested positive. I got my partner and my mom sick- same symptoms but less severe, neither tested positive but both had been boosted with the bivalent one. I had not because I was "going to wait until after finals". I had no way to report my case. I think these are all issues in data tracking.

@eawil-sunart

Жыл бұрын

You have 50,000 or more coronavirus pathogens on you at any given moment!!! And have your entire life

I am struggling to find the right words. On the one hand I am highly critical of Katelyn Jetelina while on the other hand I do not desire to put her down especially considering the terrible personal safety experiences she is having with some nutcase critics. Why not say nothing you may ask. Well, but she is reaching a large number of people including people I know in my community who blindly accept whatever she says without critical thinking. Maybe that's the answer, I just ask some relevant questions and let you do your own critical thinking rather then take my word for it. Is Katelyn Jetelina trained in infectious disease epidemiology or is her work focused on a different subject? Are issues surrounding Covid-19 highly complex and should experts we listen to have a high degree of academic pedigree? What is her Google Scholar rating (as compared to e.g. the host, Robert Wachter)? How do you feel about her not identifying data sources on her first graph? In the United States we practice individual medicine, how do you feel about her opinion that we are too individualistic and her advocacy for China's zero covid strategy?

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

Silly junk thinking from you, bobo

@martinman3143

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 "silly junk thinking from you, Bobo." Quality post.

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

@@martinman3143 - From Harvard: "The coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is primarily transmitted through viral particles that float in the air or through droplets containing virus. Even people who are infected but do not have symptoms, or have not yet developed symptoms, can infect others. Masks reduce the amount of virus we breathe in and breathe out. Combined with the vaccines and boosters, masks provide a one-two punch that reduces the risk of spread. Masks also provide protection for the wearer, even those who are fully vaccinated."

@martinman3143

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 from the basement: I'm going to reply something that has nothing to do with Martin Man's original post. #wegotawinner

@gwstomper8185

Жыл бұрын

it is because she is a waffler ,,,, , to many epidemiologists trying to change the light bulb

Houston has wastewater surveillance.

I think there was a study showing in the real world the bivalent was no better than monovalent.....do not remember where I read it....I do know that recently my husband tested positiive (booster 3,4,5)....and was as sick as me...I had one booster Nov. 2021....have COPD..

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

You presented zero evidence to back this story.

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 You presented zero evidence to back this story

I think you are brilliant and amazing. I have enjoyed reading your news letters and trust your knowledge. On the political side I agree it should not be one side or the other or political at all. Keep being brilliant at what you do. To be able to raise a family and do your work must be such a challenge. Thank you for your work.

Great stuff as usual. Thanks all. Please keep it up.

Why do epidemiologists not wonder how new variants just "pop up in various places around the world" as she put it? Isn't epidemiology the study of how diseases spread from person to person? Are we back to the Middle Ages, believing in spontaneous generation? She showed a spectacular lack of interest in how variants can just "pop up in various places", when that is actually her job.

@PhillyBagel

Жыл бұрын

Epidemiologists say it’s due to the high case counts throughout the world. The more cases there are, the more mutations there are, and the better chance of a successful subvariant emerging. It’s like buying two billion tickets for Powerball. This virus is going to hit the jackpot on a consistent basis.

@eawil-sunart

Жыл бұрын

Your starting to wake up .. keep the questions coming

THANKS FROM TEL AVIV

Very good presentation and I learned a few very interesting things that I’m glad to now know.

Plan demic!

Great work Katelyn! You have been my YLE for almost 2 years. Many times, I skip to the "Bottom Line", but the communication is easy to understand for the lay person and without hysterics of TV media. The viral interaction is interesting and does deserve dedicated research.

Surgeons wear masks to prevent droplets. Also there is a scientific distinction between efficacy of intentional, specific masking and the the efficacy of population general masking. The trade-offs are also different.

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

Wrong

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 You presented zero evidence to back this story. Again.

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

From Harvard: "The coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is primarily transmitted through viral particles that float in the air or through droplets containing virus. Even people who are infected but do not have symptoms, or have not yet developed symptoms, can infect others. Masks reduce the amount of virus we breathe in and breathe out. Combined with the vaccines and boosters, masks provide a one-two punch that reduces the risk of spread. Masks also provide protection for the wearer, even those who are fully vaccinated."

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

@@One--Up bot

do you plan to discuss the harm from the mRNA shots, especially myocarditis?

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

Sure. "Before COVID-19 the incidence of myocarditis was between one and 10 cases per 100,000 people per year. Rates are highest in males between 18 and 30 years old. Interestingly, most cases of myocarditis in the highest risk group are in otherwise healthy and active people. According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the risk of myocarditis after infection with COVID-19 is much higher, at 146 cases per 100,000. The risk is higher for males, older adults (ages 50+) and children under 16 years old. Soccer player Alphonso Davies, 21, of Canada’s national men’s team, was sidelined by heart inflammation after having COVID-19. Post-vaccination myocarditis Myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination is rare and the risk is much smaller than the risks of cardiac injury linked to COVID-19 itself. Based on a study out of Israel, the risk of post-vaccine myocarditis is 2.13 cases per 100,000 vaccinated, which is within the range usually seen in the general population. This study is consistent with others in the United States and Israel which put the overall incidence of post-vaccine myocarditis between 0.3 and five cases per 100,000 people."

@Lp78Ch

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@@frogsong100

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

Do you now plan to dump your fake issue?

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 You presented zero evidence to back this story

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

@@One--Up - You are a bot. The article is from the CDC.

First-time listener. I try to stay open-minded and learn from ALL sides.

@SRFarming420

Жыл бұрын

Me too and I've made up my mind, these people are on the wrong side

Why aren’t the BQs and XBBs causing a much larger wave now? The early findings said they evade all preexisting immunity. I appreciate the attempt to explain but this is still a mystery to me.

@ernstraedecker6174

Жыл бұрын

We heard the same about BA.5 last late spring. It was supposed to show a high level of immunity escape / evasion. Hence everyone who had contracted BA1 or BA.2, would get omikron again. All scientific fear mongering, because in the end BA.5 was a dud. All these early scientific studies on BA.5 were untrue. In reality (that is: not in science), a BA.1 or BA.2 infection gave an excellent protection against BA.5. Crappy science.

I’m wearing a mask in public places again, not just for COVID, but for all three. I’m finally getting my flu shot tomorrow, it got delayed by the death of a relative.

@Lp78Ch

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy whatever is left of _your_ life.

Thank you. Esp discussing long covid, re-infections adding to it, vaccines slowing long covid, masks. Less worried about getting sick, far more worried about life-long issues. Why doesn't Katelyn wear a mask more often if long covid scares her? (And yeah, I respect the heck out of both Katelyn and Bob.) Brain scans, dementia, heart failure all discussed. If the swiss cheese method is critical, why aren't we talking about masking, or at least indoor air quality? Or vaccine mandates? I even the experts have given up.

@Richard.Atkinson

Жыл бұрын

No, they have finally come to their senses. Please follow suit and stop your nonsensical, irrational, and unscientific fear of colds.

@DirtyLifeLove

Жыл бұрын

We should bring to attention the lack of efficacy of cloth masks which are worn 99% more than surgical or N95. Cloth masks are a false sense of protection

@carolynklestinec8589

Жыл бұрын

Another IMHO more extremely important question to ask would be for each and every citizen of every state to find out EXACTLY how the tax payers funded trillions of dollars for " air quality " for schools ( hvac) and school room extensions are being spent and where EXACTLY is it is in your states . That was a HUGE money laundering, grease the palms of our supporters , transfer of wealth that we Americans have ever seen . And will ever pay for . I bring it up because you mention air quality . And I'm sure you also mean for our children and teachers . Find the money and you will find the corruption and contempt for the average American.

@bvogt

Жыл бұрын

@@carolynklestinec8589 Agreed

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

@@carolynklestinec8589 spot on!

This was excellent. Big thank yous to Dr. Jetelina and Dr. Wachter for all you have done and continue to do to help anyone who wishes to understand how to navigate in this fraught environment, for being willing to value public communication and put so much time into it, and despite the attacks that unfortunately seem to come along with that. Very, very grateful to you both.

@Lp78Ch

Жыл бұрын

i am unvaccinated and suspected from the very start this whole covid thing was not what we were being told. Do you know why? Well because I am a registered nurse with 25 years post qualification experience. Or does that constitute a conspiracy theory and misinformation?

I live in the UK and every single year we have a crisis with the NHS. it’s poorly managed so it operates in crisis mode every winter. Nothing new.

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

A bot.

@karenpancholi6692

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 I’m a bot? Okay. I don’t doubt that this year will be bad. It already is but the system is broken. People wait for hours for ambulances, wait for days/weeks for GP appointments. The nurses and paramedics are about to go on strike. So yes it will be bad but headlines every year are about how overrun the hospitals are.

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 You presented zero evidence to back this story

@sue7621

Жыл бұрын

The virus has never been isolated! I’m a Retired RN UK No mask No jab I’m on the control group register! We are a healthy lot!

@Cathy-xi8cb

Жыл бұрын

Yes, my friend's relatives in the UK all say the same things. Terrified.

No new info. The whole thing is “super exciting” but not in a good way!

Thank you Dr Jetelina, your efforts and guidance are much appreciated. We wish the best for you and your family.

The population most likely to develop long covid is females between 20-60 years old. I would think she falls into this group? Why isn't she worried?

@Cathy-xi8cb

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps she doesn't have any of the additional contributing issues for LC, including pre-existing mental health conditions and pre-existing autoimmune diagnoses. We see the same demographic you mentioned heavily represented in rheumatology with RA, Lupus, MS, etc.

@yomamabaker99

Жыл бұрын

@@Cathy-xi8cb I've had several friends in this age category that now have long covid with no prior health problems.

@yuandondon

Жыл бұрын

I cannot stand with these kind of people. Saying “long COVID” is bad. Saying “COVID” is serious. And on the other hand themselves don’t mask up. This kind of doctors and experts are stupid. “There are so many unknowns about this new virus. We don’t know how to treat it. All the medicine and treatments are still in experimenting phase. Let’s all join this wild/open field/unknown medicines human body trial. Let’s don’t do it in a controllable lab. Let’s just do it in the real world. Just let everybody get infected so we can have a lot of animal body to check the result of the experiment after few years later. Oh! By the way, maybe that’s how doctors keep their jobs? Let people sicker.” I don’t go into any public indoor places. I only do curbside pickup, drive through windows and no-contact delivery. I’m a software engineer. I work from home. I wear N95 if I have to. This year I had to deal with Department of Motor Vehicles and I cannot find a way to fix the problem online with them so that was the only time I had to step into public indoor place. Who knows what will happen few years later this new virus will do to your brain. I cannot imagine if I cannot write/read computer code, watch sci-fi movies, play video games and enjoy skiing on the slopes. I am going to wait until either we have the cure, a proof no body getting COVID brain, or everyone on earth is infected… If everybody all get COVID brain, then I feel ok “let’s have brain fog all together” and make every software buggy~. I’ll join the party then. 🎉❤

@Richard.Atkinson

Жыл бұрын

Because long COVID is insanely overblown, and she is rational?

@hed2410

Жыл бұрын

Yeah let's whip up sone fearmongering 🙄

Katelyn is a bright star in a dark sky. The world is very lucky to have this wonderful woman.

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

Katelyn is a bright star in a dark sky.

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

@@One--Up - And you are a total azzz whole.

Wonderful presentation, perfectly clear even for us non-med types.

This is an amazing interview, thank you so much for this information!

Many of us long term neurological issues with 2nd covid and b4 b5 stains.

Thank you so much for your commitment to providing information in this chaotic time.

Roll back mandates , and hospitals can function again . Crisis ( covid ) over . STOP gain of function research. Understand death is a part of live . Sorrowful for the ones left behind . Repent now so you know where you are going and will be joyful to get there . Live , laugh, love . And Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 ❤️

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

Rubbish

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 You presented zero evidence to back this story

@Lp78Ch

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 Dear John: Are you 80 years old or above??

We also have a lot more home rapids that no one is monitoring

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

home rapids

Bob, is it just me, or does Katelyn look like Batgirl from the 60s? kzread.info/dash/bejne/k3iMzMymiMq-Xco.html

In times of crisis, when you reach deeply within yourself and have the courage to do the right thing, you may discover a talent that lies dormant within you. Seems like Dr. Jetelina has gone thru this cleansed-by-fire process and emerged with a new shining aspect of herself. I'm thankful for her service during the past three years.

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

Seems like Dr. Jetelina has gone thru this cleansed-by-fire process and emerged with a new shining aspect of herself.

Maybe the flu had covid and stayed in

Fauci 10-7-2020: "I recommended to the president that we shut the country down" - Newsweek Fauci 7-26-2022: "I didn't recommend locking anything down" - The Hill (responding to question about devastating effects of lockdowns)

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

The Hill lies and Fauci speaks the truth.

@JK_JK_JK

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 Fauci lies and this is well documented and can easily be confirmed. Fauci 10-7-2020: "I recommended to the president that we shut the country down" - Newsweek Fauci 7-26-2022: "I didn't recommend locking anything down" - The Hill (responding to question about devastating effects of lockdowns)

Thank you. Love YLE.

I'm not sure why some are so readily accepting this as the "new normal." The new normal is dying kids? Dying elders? Disabling people with long covid? We need to have a loooong conversation about propaganda and the function of society, ie to care for people (not to go to restaurants, buy stuff, etc).

A link in the description area to her newsletter/website would be good way to increase the reach of her knowledge. I hope the admins of this channel take this proactive step (perhaps with a pinned comment w/the link) to further break down barriers to people accessing this remarkable resource.

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

remarkable 😆

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

@@One--Up - troll

Hey Katelyn, great job, thanks for all the letters! Greetings from Germany

Vast population immunity coupled with somatic hypermutation.

Made it to 15th minute. I wonder what makes you think I need sport commentators? You can say I do not know, you can find pandemics interesting but I would advise against saying it aloud. Stop the pandemic, if possible flu too or walk off, I have no time for your games and am not interested in your research, I simply want to stay healthy. I will do quarantines, I will do masks and self isolation, but I do not want sport commentators. If you wish to claim tile of health worker, work on health, I do not need your report on how well viruses are spreading.

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

Bot alert.

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 You presented zero evidence to back this story. Again. lol

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

@@One--Up - From Harvard: "The coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is primarily transmitted through viral particles that float in the air or through droplets containing virus. Even people who are infected but do not have symptoms, or have not yet developed symptoms, can infect others. Masks reduce the amount of virus we breathe in and breathe out. Combined with the vaccines and boosters, masks provide a one-two punch that reduces the risk of spread. Masks also provide protection for the wearer, even those who are fully vaccinated."

I had COVID twice and 5 shots. Should I keep getting shots and COVID or just the latest COVID variant? It seems all the MDs, DOs, and phDs on youtube aren't happy with the lack of evidence for further booster efficacy and some are out right hostile(probably for views).

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

You presented zero evidence to back this story, so try again.

@fifthwallradio5477

Жыл бұрын

You have lack of evidence of efficacy based on your life experience. It’s not rocket science

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 You presented zero evidence to back this story. Again. lol

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

@@One--Up - zero info from azzz whole, up.

@Lp78Ch

Жыл бұрын

@@frogsong100 Your IQ is below 7. NEXT!

What a smart articulate woman! This was enormously informative and refreshing!

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

refreshing

While not quite all the way through, I would say this is one of the least beneficial of the UCSF Grand Rounds. Seemed like some of the homework and background was less rigorous than normal for UCSF. For example, living in Ohio, I follow multiple medical professionals globally. There was an assertion that Texas does not sample wastewater, but I know that Dr. Klotman at Baylor College of Medicine frequently reports wastewater sample summaries on his weekly podcast. Perhaps there should be more complete and rigorous homework performed by the guest.

@Amy-tl2xe

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I do not feel Ms. J deserves all the hype. I am usually extremely impressed by the guests on these grand rounds - not this one.

@flynnsylvest257

Жыл бұрын

She said "Dallas" specifically does not have wastewater surveillance. She didn't say this about the whole state of Texas.

@markgivens3225

Жыл бұрын

Listen closely, she does say ‘Texas’ first, but then perhaps qualifies it to Dallas. I suspect she may not have done her homework well (been in contact with the necessary front line people)or she is speaking imprecisely. ‘Sampling’ is likely happening in Dallas if it is happening in Houston and other parts of Texas. However the ‘results’ of the samples may not be fed to CDC nor ‘published’ beyond local elected/appointed health officials.

@flynnsylvest257

Жыл бұрын

@@markgivens3225 she was correcting herself by being specific about Dallas. I am aware from reading her work that she knows of wastewater surveillance in other parts of Texas. Her point was well taken that it's hard to assess national trends when there is so much spotty coverage of even very large areas such as Dallas.

@unicornsandrainbowsandchic2336

Жыл бұрын

@@markgivens3225 so if one corrects themselves mid-presentation it is an indicator of "not doing your homework" or being a low-quality researcher? Yikes.

Dr. Jetelina is fantastic. Thanks for having her on. Good questions thanks also for highlighting long Covid.

She lost me asking why does a surgeon wear a mask in regard to CoviD? The size and scale of the particles are the reason. Very basic and easy to understand.

Dr. Jetelina, Thank you so much for your dedication to communicating! I hope that others, especially policymakers, legislators, and others with influence are listening to you. Keep up the incredible work! Erica Buhrmann, MD

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

MD MD MD

In brief, she is a DOLL! Smart, humble, in command of the data that should underpin public health policy. She may not have foreseen her celebrity, but it is well-deserved. Tally Ho, and God bless you! Keep up the good work....

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

Tally Ho🥴

Someone gave me COVID despite my attempts to avoid it. Fortunately, I had minor symptoms. Thank You to everyone who is willing to use evidence, like the Doctor here.

@robertmarmaduke186

Жыл бұрын

I live alone, work remote and shop rarely at off hours. My only exposure is the gas pump handle and the post office box. Then I got Covid Alpha on the wind, fought for 5 weeks, recovered and haven't had a sniffle since. *Long Covid is the Jab.*

So reasonable and thoughtful. lt gives me a glimmer of hope.

@One--Up

Жыл бұрын

lt gives me a glimmer of hope

@frogsong100

Жыл бұрын

@@One--Up - bot

I followed virologists on Twitter, but I was suspended for making "Left-wing" remarks. I've heard that this is happening to others, as well.

Never heard of this Pfizer saleslady before,haven't missed much.

@frogsong100

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Another bot, only.

@One--Up

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@@frogsong100 You presented zero evidence to back this story

@frogsong100

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@@One--Up - "From Harvard: "The coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is primarily transmitted through viral particles that float in the air or through droplets containing virus. Even people who are infected but do not have symptoms, or have not yet developed symptoms, can infect others. Masks reduce the amount of virus we breathe in and breathe out. Combined with the vaccines and boosters, masks provide a one-two punch that reduces the risk of spread. Masks also provide protection for the wearer, even those who are fully vaccinated."

@Lp78Ch

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@@frogsong100

Bottom line, the “2 weeks” to flatten the curve was nearly 3 years ago. Curve FLAT. Beds are empty of C19 patients. Now address an effective RSV vaccine! Get an angry trauma surgeon on to advocate for bigger ERs! We neeed to move on!! Women have delayed metastatic breast cancer dx!! Have an oncologist on to advocate for expedited screening to save real lives!!! You can’t monitor 500 variants it’s a total waste of money when the worst symptoms are headache and sore throat. Children are dying of flu in CA TODAY. Masks are useless unless they are N95 with a trained wearer and only on a sick person. So stay home if you have c19 or anything else!!

@Cathy-xi8cb

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Annals of Internal Medicine published a study from Israel recently that disagrees with you. Their peer-reviewed study found that surgical masks were not statistically less effective than N95 masks in preventing infection in unvaccinated healthcare workers. Deaths from COVID in the US have not dropped below 300 PER DAY this calendar year. That should matter, but because 90% of those are people over 65, it doesn't worry the average non-provider.

@blissblogs

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I appreciate your concerns but please take one more look at the studies on n95s. n95s are effective for both parties, and with all the variants and viral infections.

@hoosierbaddy3052

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@@Cathy-xi8cb A peer reviewed study? Meaning they all have the same amount of schooling and experience. Those are the ones conducting studies and verifying their validity. From Israel? And it disagrees with anyone who disagrees with it? I wrote a piece awhile back about Medical Journals. There’s definitely legit medical journals out there. But I found an Indian medical journal that will publish any supposed discoveries for a nominal fee. Obviously they don’t review the articles for authenticity. Because one guy spoofed them by sending in a supposed article about birds. Just birds in general. The crux of the article was all about how weird birds are. The author goes on to say he’d studied them real hard to catch their weirdness. Squinting his eyes to get a better look. He called his study ‘what’s with birds’. Provided a graph to delineate the crossing of normal birds to weird ones. No specific species were mentioned. It was a comedic article that they published for a couple grand. That is funny. Another thing that I wouldn’t trust are numbers regarding mask usage efficacy. No one, myself included, knew how to use them properly. When you don’t use something as intended, especially when it’s potentially life saving, you’re on your own. Like tryna use a spoon for a fork’s job. Using a hammer for a screwdriver. Nope huh? Don’t blame masks cuz we’re still feeling the pandemic blues. And don’t believe peer reviewed studies from countries other than the U.S. if that’s your country of origin.

@Richard.Atkinson

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Thank you for calling out these utterly irrational lunatics.

@Richard.Atkinson

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@@hoosierbaddy3052 I'm sorry to say, but you shouldn't believe peer-reviewed medical articles from the US either. The journals are bought by industry, and almost none of them have scientific integrity.

At TWiV Nr 659 at min29 virologist Christian Drosten indicate very low tissue temperature better to replicate SARS COV2. That explain why mask wearing was protective against SARS COV2 infection,by overheating upper respiratory tract.

well this was a waste of time.

Really disappointed in her stance on masks.

@mortypickles

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At the same time as saying that she is disappointed in how individual-focused we are being. She masks for a couple of weeks before interacting with ppl she knows are at high risk, but how about the ppl she’s around who are high risk, but she isn’t privy to that information? And she knows that we need layers of protection, yet she doesn’t want to be one of those layers for ppl at risk whom she doesn’t happen to know? She obviously is making important contributions, but, yes, her take on wearing masks is disappointing.

@Cathy-xi8cb

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I am an older (but not as old as Bob!) healthcare provider. I wear masks in treatment but don't require my young patients to wear them. This tracks with her comments 100%.

@yomamabaker99

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@@Cathy-xi8cb Do you not require them because you don't think they work? Do you not require them because they are not mandated in your environment/area? Or do you not require them because you think there will be backlash from people you treat and you may lose clients/patients over your requirement?

@Richard.Atkinson

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@@yomamabaker99 Maybe she realizes that COVID is no longer a significant threat anymore and she isn’t a member of your cult?

@frogsong100

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"Masks are a key measure to reduce transmission and save lives. Wearing well-fitted masks should be used as part of a comprehensive ‘Do it all!’ approach including maintaining physical distancing, avoiding crowded, closed and close-contact settings, ensuring good ventilation of indoor spaces, cleaning hands regularly, and covering sneezes and coughs with a tissue of bent elbow. Depending on the type, masks can be used for either protection of healthy persons or to prevent onward transmission, or both."

What a load of propaganda. Milking it for all you can!

@frogsong100

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Have any proof to back your silly claim?

@One--Up

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@@frogsong100 Have any proof to back your silly claim?

@frogsong100

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@@One--Up - I made no claim, dodo.

@Lp78Ch

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@@frogsong100 Do you live under a rock?

I like her but why isn't she wearing a mask? I don't get it...

@sallyglunt2179

Жыл бұрын

Because she's alone in her home office.

@Richard.Atkinson

Жыл бұрын

Because she isn't a brainless lunatic who's afraid of ghosts and colds?

What happened summer 2022?

Fear is the killer and yall buying into it. Still. lmao