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I would like to hear more from Mr. Weinstein. I really like the way he articulates his position. We need these conversations more than ever.

@downforwardjab5503

6 жыл бұрын

He's been on Joe Rogan's podcast a few times and I'd recommend that if you haven't listened.

@aarondean01

6 жыл бұрын

thanks

@incrediblygay

6 жыл бұрын

He was on the Rubin Report a couple days ago with his brother as well (who's even MORE brilliant IMO) kzread.info/dash/bejne/f6GM05twlNKTpLQ.html

@brycemannn4847

6 жыл бұрын

I love listening to this dude we should support his patreon so he can make more free content

6 жыл бұрын

Aaron Dean he's the real deal...brilliant. And his brother, Eric, may have even more cultural insight.

No more caffeine for the video editor! Excellent content

More long format like this please BT.

@bigthink

6 жыл бұрын

Working on it! Check back on Friday.

We should congratulate Big Think that they still are able and willing to post challenging and interesting videos and not crumble under the weight of the political pressure. 👍🏼🤓

@tescheurich

2 жыл бұрын

No pressure is needed. Most people are simply not interested. Pointy heads' impact on the real world will always be limited by that low, low ceiling. Power realizes it's better to let us amuse each other talking it out. The impact is pretty limited.

@abrafej666

Жыл бұрын

Nice profile pic

@aquaticpears3183

Жыл бұрын

@@abrafej666 😇

I strongly appreciate the last 5-10 mins when Weinstein talks about disagreements over policy and tactics while the parties actually could be agreeing on principles like liberty. I see this happen in discussions with my friend. We agree on many things, maybe all things, but we have disagreements on how to implement those principles into reality. Focus on the search for truth, said Weinstein. Good advice.

@LowenKM

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, though lotsa luck even engaging with any of those disagreements whenever they've also come to define _'who we are'..._ aka, Identity Politics.

When I listen to Bret speak...it feels like he is bridging the gap between Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris / Richard Dawkins.

@aysoodaagh3167

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Those individuals are too radical in their beliefs.

@joelstephenson8017

2 жыл бұрын

Just yes.

@Brett_S_420

Жыл бұрын

Peterson is a tool.

@donngreitontordilla1456

Жыл бұрын

He was an excellent moderator (and, really, participant) in the Same Harris and Jordan Peterson debate.

we need WAY more of these long takes. thank you!

Wow, this was absolutely amazing. More of this, and definitely more of Professor Weinstein please

That is a take on religion that I hadn’t considered or heard of before. How fascinating, I look forward to discussing this with my friends

@damienbarnes4834

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I had friends capable of discussing things.... :(

@privateprivate591

2 жыл бұрын

@@damienbarnes4834 same here, you aren't alone

@AeonSaturnal

Жыл бұрын

disagree with his take on religion

@LeChakaraka

Жыл бұрын

Check out Rene Girard on the idea of Christ as a scapegoat. Religion is and was a vital psycho technology for human civilization. There is a reason smart people still use it to this day; it’s not just an artifact.

@anthonyharvey8571

Жыл бұрын

@@damienbarnes4834 bro 😂. I’m sorry to hear that. I’ve been there

IF you haven’t checked out his new podcast, do so! “The Dark Horse Podcast” I believe. His brother Eric also has one called “The Portal”. Both are excellent.

Wonderful work! I’d love to see more interesting ideas like this in the public discourse :) thanks!

Exactly what I’ve been thinking for a while, would love to see more investigation into this part of the subject

Wow, this is one of the best in your excellent series. I truly feel like I've learned a thing or two, and have lots of new material for thought and discussion.

Please, more materials in such format!

He is absolutely correct about the politically left or right not having the answers to our social and economic issues. This is a dynamic and constantly evolving system and needs solutions from a dynamic government that does not proffer answers before questions are even asked.

@fionafiona1146

6 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't they be in charge of creating and updating an ever adapting government (political system)?

Thanks for posting idea driven content Big Think! I agree with the critiques that the extra sound effects detract from the message though.

who are the people of "unfortunate misunderstandings"?

What this man says, is so true, and he said it very well.. Thank you

Being able to articulate so many topics, shortly synthesize and illustrate problematics and never leaving your audience without an qualitative answer... It was a great pleasure to heard this man 🙏 Really love your work Big Think 🔥

What a great deep and detailed insight to many topics!

Absolutely loved everything this guy had to say. More from him please!

Bravissimo...great talk Bret...great delivery, easy to comprehend learnin a bunch ...thankz

Bret and his brother Eric are extremely level headed and insightful.

I had to skip this one, not because of any controvercy or the length of the format. I had to skip this one because the bleeps and bloops of sound effects pissed me off to no end.

I have watched this video three times now I believe… at least 2 full times through one sitting each watch and also I believe one more sporadically over the course of a day. I am fairly certain the sporadic one was the first watch. Anyway, I have had the same few questions and opinions that I have wanted to share and I just felt a heads up makes since for a lot of reasons. I love big think and Bret Weinstein and the work they are doing is vital to our evolution and so are questions and thoughts like what I will soon comment. I shall return!

Profoundly insightful. June 8, 2021.

That was absolutely brilliant!!!

I recommend Robin Hanson as a guest to talk about his book on the hidden motives that influence our decisions. Or Bryan Caplan to talk about his new book criticizing education.

So, I guess I think like this guy. It was a little weird hearing someone verbalize my own very similar thoughts.

Man he just said what I couldnt put in words. Thanks a lot

Growth of amoral companies at 17:51 is assisted by considering the relationship between cancer and the organism's healthy cells neighboring it.

Is there a podcast version of this channel?

Damn Brett that was great talk. Cheers

This entire conversation is incredibly refreshing

5:25 where could I find more info about that wedding between corpses?

This is a life changing talk

I would argue that we are actually still in a boom.. but it certainly is not being shared. It's being horded at the top of the income scales.

@middleofnowhere1313

6 жыл бұрын

They are transferring from the general populace to the powerful few at the top. Theft, really.

@SteveScapesYT

6 жыл бұрын

Potentially yes, but those not being shared with will begin acting in a tribal way not synonymous with growth-- that's why Trump is president. But on a deeper level-- executives are not stingy evil people who want to slash everyone's wages in the boom time. Most managers and bosses are not so great about pinching pennies or being dicks on wages when the times are good-- being an austere asshole requires psychic pain and effort, and doesn't garner the loyalty and enthusiasm one needs behind him when seizing an expanding frontier. The fact that the elite are becoming more ruthless is probably symptomatic of something deeper.

Thank you

29:00 this is why education is so important. The more you learn the more you know how often you are wrong about things you hitherto really believed. Makes it easier to go into discussions with a more truth-seeking attitude (vs trying to win).

This is a remarkably good video. Bret is smarter than I thought.

Thanks. I agree that we must learn to see cultural systems (such as religion, or politics) from an evolutionary standpoint (though, not necessarily *_exclusively_* from that viewpoint). I think that there's something else going on as well, with which we have not yet come to grips. The fact that there *_are_* cultural, social aspects of human behavior & evolution, means that those things are, by definition, externalized in a real sense. Given this, we can see that such things are vulnerable to becoming 'locked in' - for instance, through bureaucracy, or racism, etc. - such that they can become dysfunctional, and even detrimental to a large part of a given population. Such externalized ideas are - and should be - therefore subject to our keen attentions, with an eye toward choosing the best path forward for everyone. It is simply not enough to observe things from a scientific or philosophical view, and say, 'Well, such & such happens; isn't that interesting?' Humans have a profound gift from evolution: we are aware of it, and can actively choose to constructively operate upon it! Of course, we can also choose to destructively misuse it for selfish purposes. There's way too much of that going on right now! We are fracturing badly. I really think we could use some good ole 1960s-style attitudes: you know, "Come people now / Smile on your brother / Everybody get together / Try to love one another / Right now /. Thanks again. tavi.

This was so good. Definitely something every person should watch twice.

This the one of best videos on KZread it's a shame that it has less than 50k views.

@aysoodaagh3167

3 жыл бұрын

It has 56k now. But still.

his point about language reminds me of one of the stories in The New York trilogy

Very good.

Omg. Thank you. I've been saying all this for 5 years.

It’s a shame so few have seen this. EVERYONE needs to see what we are doing to ourselves.

A new era is on the horizon. Let's see what happens folks 👌🏿👀

@sunitapalissery258

6 жыл бұрын

Sadey Discussion i

thank you

Thanks for the video...the part about disagreeing over values is interesting. By valuing competition with one another, there will be losers. He describes the utopian weakness is one value becomes too highly prioritized which leads to destructive/unhealthy outcomes. The same can be said with our current system, valuing competition has become too highly prioritized and it's leading to destructive outcomes for people & the planet. Any system for a population requires continual refinement to thrive in the long run. The Competition value by those in power have no incentive to refine/reform anything; thus, we will fail as a species because none of us are free from the consequences of reality....reality values cooperation.

@michaelahurt

2 жыл бұрын

It's an interesting point. This is semantics maybe but I'd say it's less that our current system prioritizes competition over cooperation than that the over-arching governmental structures we have in place create suboptimal incentive structures. In other words, competition is only viewed as a negative because firms are rewarded for acting amorally. If company profits were determined by, idk, employee happiness, then competition would be positive in that sense. If competition is inevitable, human nature being what it is, then it's how we use human nature within our larger societal framework, right? We essentially have created a system where we have pitted people against themselves in a way that all but assures we will act in the short term. Humans always act in their own (short term) interests so the job of government is to create a framework where those interests perpetuate and reinforce our shared values at a societal level (life, liberty and happiness) so that competition (and our other base instincts) work in service of cooperation, which in this context is a proxy for long term sustainability of the species. So a very basic (and effective) examples of this in practice are building infrastructure for electric vehicles and tax credits for energy efficient appliances as they align short and long term interests. The problem we often run into is politicians have more to gain by keeping the status quo so they create loopholes. In some ways the question of how to incentivize politicians is actually the harder problem. It's a job that requires one set of traits (humility, self-sacrifice, patience, conscientious) but rewards antithetical ones (ego/pride, ambition, financial security) and is mostly easily obtained, in the modern era, by those with a third set of unrelated traits (gravitas, charisma, attractiveness)

@gganu1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelahurt Point taken...I observe how the Olympic games value defeating others...I've never seen a competition where city/states compete to solve problems of things like homelessness or affordable housing....competing for the best practices that can then be replicated. Why are there no competitions for serving others rather than defeating others?

@michaelahurt

2 жыл бұрын

@@gganu1234 Agreed but I'd argue that's because the incentive structures are bad. To your initial point we do fetishize competition in western culture in a way that isn't particularly useful. But think the whole point Weinstein is making is humans have many faults; our systems just exacerbate them. And fighting our worst tendencies is pretty futile because we need to deprive people of at least freedom and possibly life and even still people will do what they want to do. One bad apple spoils the bunch. What we *are* capable of doing is designing incentives so that acting selfishly is still beneficial to humanity as whole. Maybe that's just a different kind of utopia because we still need the people in charge to act in the best interests of everyone and be intelligent enough to do it and disciplined enough not to go too far that they create entirely new incentives they never intended , but it's easier to get a few hundred people to act decently than 7 billion, right?

Wow. Just wow. I wish I could articulate any position near where this man has set the bar. Great talk. Bret Weinstein is near godly in this talk.

Excellent

There's a funny sound at 4:37. 🤣🤣

Every time he says "market", "free market", "firm", "business", etc., just replace it with "government" and it will make just as much sense - if not more.

I agree with almost everything he said, mostly in the politics and the discourses parts. For politics, I also thought that the best government should be one which both sides cooperate instead of going to war against one another. By emerging as one, they could have all their respective strengths AND be more aware of their respective weaknesses. If really politicians want to lead their country to become better and not to only seek power, trying this option for at least a year or two is an option in my opinion. For discourses, the basic principle should ALWAYS be to seek the truth in a debate or an argument. It's true that it serves everyone when people become closer to what's really going on or by understanding something more acurately. Wanting to win at any cost in these situations is not just counter-productive but also dangerous if we allow these persons to do this and get away with it. Maybe if we collectively allow ourselves to make mistakes and that acknowledging that it's ok and that the important thing is to learn and not to be right every time, societies around the world would be in a more ideal position.

Awesome!

'I regard utopianism as probably the worst idea that human beings have ever had.' - as many societies failed by applying this type of method

That's a very decent analysis.

This format is wayyyy better

music sometimes become louder than talk, you should adjust that

"Unfortunately..." - Bret Weinstein

@herbertmolano

5 жыл бұрын

What is otherwise an insightful perspective having an evolutionary model to explain culture and tribalism makes understating life much easier. His presentation hits a snag at about 31 minutes in with the concept of a throughput economy - that it is advantageous to have products designed for obsolescence or not to last. It is a misconception especially when considering stoves and other appliances that last decades. The Japanese thrive while producing cars that far outlast American cars. Quality and reliability sell. But fashion does make many products perceptually obsolete.

Brilliant and right on the money! You have a new fan, Bret Weinstein. Thank you for your work.

His statement about metaphorical truth kind of reminds me of the position Jordan Peterson took on truth during that debate between him and Sam Harris, only in how he's phrased it here it seems to make a bit more sense.

Great!

He really made a correct prediction four years ago 6:55

"Unfortunately in our present circumstance..."

I couldn't appreciate it more!!!

your all topics very nice. It's increase my knowledge and clear my dought.

I disagree on the take about free markets and domination by unethical corporations because of 2 reasons off the bat. 1. When ethics are preferred, competition is not even because the ethical org should move quicker by habit and lesser need to "decide" to be ethical 2. Unethical orgs are actually MORE limited in certain contexts. For example, when skeptical eyes come looking at both orgs, the unethical ones are incapable of sustainably carrying on business as usual if those eyes have access to anger and retribution. Keep your wits and fists about you, and you won't see as much corruption around. Let go and hope for the best if you wish to watch what you desire slowly taken from you though.

At 73 he described the future I may not live to see...but the important thing I thing is what seems to be this disinterest in learning that the young seem to have....I have always been interested in learning as much as I was capable of almost everything because I enjoy it....this generation doesn't seem to value or enjoy learning.

Imagine the eventual adaptation of an ideology. love it.

I like the long format and the short format but the louder sound effects are a bit much for me. I could do without the bell or monkey sounds.

i simply agree; to have a kind of knowledge that has exactly this kind of information, insight into such a topic, creates a fairly aware kind of conscious. ironically, as over time, i am excited for when this kind of knowledge evolves in a particular manner in all of us. so speaking about evolutionary consciousness, maybe even about cosmic consciousness, first of all the internet wasn't to bad of an idea, but this way we can quiet consciously change and change our interests into the future. yes, spread this i think we all agree.. i think to have knowledge like this apparent, in any kind of area/field, puts us into a really encouraging position, at least idea. man, i need to read about this.. is there any kind of books that are in favour?

Here we are having the same debate Locke and Rousseau were having 400 years ago. Nothing has changed.

Great talk, but those sounds that were added after ruined the mood a bit

Dude is a genius

Whats funny is that Meme culture online can be tracked in a Genological fashion. The current Wojack meme is a descendant of the epic face reaction meme set. It survived the genetic variation environment that was flooded with the propagation of the meme across the internet zeitgeist. And now it is dominant in the utilization it allow the meme user to decry a person's "unepic" opinion.

Wow, mind blowing... it explains a lot then!!!

Very well put.

I was looking to buy a book from him, but seems he hasn't written any :(

@JeremiahsArchive

4 жыл бұрын

He’s got a podcast now though (Dark Horse Podcast) and several great long form interviews on JRE, Rubin Report and Sam Harris’s Making Sense.

@stefanocampostrini8232

3 жыл бұрын

I believe he now has one out that is co-authored with his wife

I love this guy, the Dark Horse podcast was the only accurate and trustworthy source of information at the beginning of the pandemic.

a great thinker

Benevolent firm perhaps is exactly what fuel growth. Chic fil a come in minds. High retention rate, high job satisfaction, high job growth opportunities.

I was pretty much with you up until the end. My perception is that the censorship of new ideas and acceptance of new scientific evidence is being rejected far more by older Americans, specifically boomers and of course that blends very much with the religous. They seem much more likely to reject things based on personal beliefs or a complete lack of understanding of the scientific method and how valuable it actually is at finding out what is true.

"The problem isn't capitalism, the problem is [describes capitalism]"

Great video, but somebody dropped the ball on these sound effects.

Assuming Bret is on a good path still makes it hard to do what he says until we are built differently, even if it's only at a better understanding of the operation of the cultural meme level

17:16 is where he describes himself during the pandemic.

@tconnolly1tc

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

There are many assumptions I would question such as the view of culture as functional, and the interpretation of human institutions in evolutionary terms. However, the broad method, of building up a framework from first principles of human emergence and holistically understanding the synthesis of biology and culture into a critique of contemporary society and framework for future trajectories is powerful. This is excellent content.

I sure hope our government is having the same discussions LIKE 'evolutionary culture', no doubt th UN already has... I sure like that phrase too, 'increased freedom', though not in the example used to attribute it. Top notch post this is!

I think it’s important to remember none of this is new. We always like to think we are facing something unprecedented. What we are looking at is nothing more than the oldest story in history. Those seeking to shut down speech do so because they know they are wrong and will lose their position of power if challenged. The excuse they use, as they always have, through out history is that “they know best” and “we must be protected”. The stage is always new. The actors always change but the story is always the same. As such we also know how this all ends. Unfortunately. Violence, conflict and destruction will allow for a new system or idea to rise from the ashes of the old and the cycle will repeat itself sometimes giving rise to something spectacular other times birthing something horrific. To escape this cycle we must walk the thin line described in the video. Utopia on one side and the worst of mans nature on the other await us if we fall. Can it be done? Not without some mitigating force that was alluded to in the video. The problem is that every mitigating force humanity has tried has turned out to be worse than what it sought to prevent. So maybe for once we should try to just leave it the hell alone and see what happens 😎

i recommend checking out the zeitgeist movement

28:58 is wrong because I love being wrong

Material del bueno

This seems very similar to the dual inheritance theory of human behavior.

This is a surface reading of the human condition. Under the surface is psychic vampirism and whether they are purely material or metaphysical remains to be determined.

such a great man #imwithhim

That's an intellectual middle finger towards the Evergreen folks if i've ever seen one

In the microwave example. The truth is that fewer microwaves will be produced, but that merely frees up resources (people and metals, plastics, glass etc) to produce other things. The issue for economists is that the expansion might not occur, or it may take a long time to do so... both lead to temporary gluts of materials and people which may be long-term. (structural unemployment) and Morality and Theologies can impact that, because they limit legal opportunities (which are based on accepted morals) Morality therefore, can restrict the type of things people may legally do, produce or consume (ALCOHOL, DRUGS, PORK, CLOTHING TYPE etc.) will ultimately limit that growth, and thus lead to inequality and poverty.