The Smallest Hill We're Willing to Die On | Commander Clash Podcast 128

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The smallest, pettiest, unmeaningful thing we're willing to fight for.
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0:00 Intro
1:56 Land arts shouldn’t match
10:34 Not enough anime art
18:20 Commanders are overrated
26:21 Flicking cards should be banned
34:58 Planeswalkers suck in commander
42:29 Magic needs a TV show
51:49 Errata to make more things commander playable/legal
57:35 Double sleeving is a scam
1:06:25 Outro

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  • @user-pd6fb6om5h
    @user-pd6fb6om5h6 ай бұрын

    Crim's face when he heard "mismatched socks" was the most wholesome smile 😂

  • @sirKonradical

    @sirKonradical

    6 ай бұрын

    They are on my feet, mom! You can't see them under my damn shoes! 40, and my socks still don't match. My mom has actually started following suit 😂

  • @MasterCrvo

    @MasterCrvo

    6 ай бұрын

    I mismatch my socks, my lands, my bolts, my paths...I didn't realize I was in Crim Army officer corps

  • @drew-id

    @drew-id

    6 ай бұрын

    I've had that same opportunity to take my shoes off, and verify I don't match socks. 😊

  • @bobbysimon1078
    @bobbysimon10786 ай бұрын

    12:00 These pokemon cards are actually photographs of clay figures that the artist made! They're not just depicted to look like that. It's pretty awesome.

  • @cluelesscardgamer

    @cluelesscardgamer

    6 ай бұрын

    Yuka morii the goat

  • @agkmark3292
    @agkmark32926 ай бұрын

    It makes me smile knowing that Tomer is willing to break his (justified) aesthetics for the APAC swamp I gifted him.

  • @rasudidosv9306
    @rasudidosv93066 ай бұрын

    I never did see Tomer's plastic plants again, it's not on topic but I do find it impressive even the fake plants died on him.

  • @haileydee9954
    @haileydee99546 ай бұрын

    I think they should do a set called Errata Masters that's just all cards that have been errataed. It's not meant to be drafted, just putting lots of errataed cards with correct wording into the game

  • @inzombiac345

    @inzombiac345

    6 ай бұрын

    that would mean hasbro would have to amit they made a mass amout of mistakes..... sadge that wont happen

  • @brodusthegreat2109

    @brodusthegreat2109

    6 ай бұрын

    I don't hate the idea, but the main issue would be that players with the old version of the card now have a version that isn't even accurate anymore, it feels bad and creates awkward scenarios in games.

  • @zawarudo497

    @zawarudo497

    6 ай бұрын

    @@brodusthegreat2109 isn't that already the case? this would just also add an actually correct version

  • @brodusthegreat2109

    @brodusthegreat2109

    6 ай бұрын

    @zawarudo497 Erratas aren't very common as far as I've seen, it would be nice to get new, accurate versions of errata'd cards but it definitely wouldn't make a great set, lol

  • @OdaGoda957

    @OdaGoda957

    6 ай бұрын

    Love this idea, there are soo many errata’d cards in the game. It’d also help to have a set list to easily look up for all cards that have had text changes.

  • @brick4939
    @brick49396 ай бұрын

    Love richards take on missmatched basics. Ever seen a mountainrange where every mountain is an exact copy of the last one?

  • @smashcards5982

    @smashcards5982

    6 ай бұрын

    I was doing this when I first started building EDH decks, but seeing them on my playmat really bothered me haha

  • @thetogtube2

    @thetogtube2

    6 ай бұрын

    Love my mono red mismatched basic mountain range lands more than I do even playing mono red 😂

  • @Greg501-

    @Greg501-

    6 ай бұрын

    I might as well run 20 different arts if WotC continues to make 1 copy per basic Secret Lair lands

  • @pascalsimioli6777

    @pascalsimioli6777

    6 ай бұрын

    When's the last time you tapped a real mountain to get the energy necessary to cast a real spell? Oh never you say? That's because you don't play magic for realism and you know it, stop using dishonest arguments.

  • @OdaGoda957

    @OdaGoda957

    6 ай бұрын

    @@pascalsimioli6777saying that the aesthetic being realistic matters to them is pretty reasonable. Seemed more like a joke/personal argument to me. Not some debate lord facts and logic shit bro

  • @talonjansen8926
    @talonjansen89266 ай бұрын

    I do really enjoy the honest creativity you guys bring to content creation, some of these recent videos have been highly entertaining!

  • @MTGGoldfishCommander

    @MTGGoldfishCommander

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @dylanthomas2393
    @dylanthomas23936 ай бұрын

    I run the same set of Rebecca Guay basics in every deck with the exception of a single random precon forest that a buddy of mine got Crim to sign for me at Magic Con Philly and it never ceases to make me smile when I draw it. The layers of trolling from my friend not only getting Crim to sign a forest but giving it to me as specifically not matching any of my basics is too perfect.

  • @the.50caliberapple80

    @the.50caliberapple80

    6 ай бұрын

    I love all of the Rebecca Guay basics. It’s a shame they released the old boarder foil versions AFTER I bought all of mine :(

  • @derrickheard9535
    @derrickheard95356 ай бұрын

    20 years ago I was Tomer on double sleeving. I have many expensive cards that are ruined on the top edges because I didn't double sleeved. Dirt gets in the top of the sleeve and wears on the top edge with each shuffle.

  • @MerpDerp-hz9tt

    @MerpDerp-hz9tt

    2 ай бұрын

    Yip, that is the reason I double-sleeve: stuff gets into the open sleeve and eventually will visibly effect that edge of the card

  • @Simplycoburn

    @Simplycoburn

    Ай бұрын

    I double sleeve every commander deck I have

  • @cannibalskitchen8421
    @cannibalskitchen84216 ай бұрын

    Crim needs a McDonald's crossover where we get a holographic print of Bolas animorphing into a big Mac when you look at it from different angles.

  • @hallowedmist4289

    @hallowedmist4289

    6 ай бұрын

    this is my favorite comment

  • @vaentkhing579

    @vaentkhing579

    6 ай бұрын

    i have not watched the episode, but this comment might be all i need from the experience

  • @vaentkhing579

    @vaentkhing579

    6 ай бұрын

    sorry, my first reply sonehow got spammed 6 times

  • @baconsir1159
    @baconsir11596 ай бұрын

    I’d love a TV series about Yawgmoth, Urza, and the Weatherlight saga

  • @inzombiac345

    @inzombiac345

    6 ай бұрын

    yes I agree the weatherlight era was great

  • @callumreilly9107

    @callumreilly9107

    6 ай бұрын

    Agree but they’d have to choose between censoring it/toning the war crimes down and r-rating it. I’m sure we’d love a faithful depiction but wotc would aim for the biggest audience

  • @solaire6116

    @solaire6116

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes it would make a perfect anime lol

  • @jaydub5515
    @jaydub55156 ай бұрын

    I dumped a bowl of spaghetti sauce on an all foil mardu deck once. Thank God it was double sleeved. It saved them, for reals, and what's crazy is that was my only double sleeved deck

  • @peewee0224

    @peewee0224

    5 ай бұрын

    Double sleeves are a god send.

  • @Groovemancer
    @Groovemancer6 ай бұрын

    To me, double sleeving isn't just about protecting them from spills or incidents of that sort, but they also seem to help with the curled foils. I doesn't fix them, but it helps. Even if they're sitting in a deck box, the single-sleeved decks with any kind of curled foils are noticeable.

  • @anxez
    @anxez6 ай бұрын

    For once, I fully sit behind richard.

  • @cokematic

    @cokematic

    6 ай бұрын

    same (except the "even white border lands")

  • @peterhardiman7333

    @peterhardiman7333

    6 ай бұрын

    He even explained why ppl play pimped out solos lands too!!! You can tell Richard is not a digital player at heart...

  • @lorpuz4664

    @lorpuz4664

    6 ай бұрын

    Me too on the lands thing i hated the argument of Seth "if You want to play with other lands just build another deck" not everyone is mr moneybanks

  • @dontmisunderstand6041
    @dontmisunderstand60416 ай бұрын

    I think it's hilarious that the argument against Richard's first hot take isn't "some people have OCD just leave them alone", it's "magic cards are like clothing!". Truly an unpredictable cast.

  • @godspeedhero3671
    @godspeedhero36716 ай бұрын

    What a curious title. lol "There are no hot takes, only correct takes." - Tomer This episode is already a classic. XD

  • @aaronepstein9416
    @aaronepstein94166 ай бұрын

    Richard is right on the lands lol And yes, I do wear mismatched socks lol

  • @Schmanton

    @Schmanton

    6 ай бұрын

    I see, you are a man of culture as well

  • @peewee0224

    @peewee0224

    5 ай бұрын

    He’s not right mismatch basics makes it seem like you don’t care about the deck.

  • @litwaffle9848

    @litwaffle9848

    4 ай бұрын

    @@peewee0224that is absolutely not true lmao

  • @peewee0224

    @peewee0224

    4 ай бұрын

    @@litwaffle9848 it’s 100% true I get you like different art but what it looks like from everybody else is you just jammed a bunch of random lands in your deck.

  • @litwaffle9848

    @litwaffle9848

    4 ай бұрын

    @@peewee0224 Mismatched basics are so irrelevant that nobody should care or judge at all. My entire friend group has not once made a comment about mismatched lands, nor have I ever met somebody that cared. Putting thought and care into your deck goes so far beyond what you use as basics.

  • @adamhenwood1114
    @adamhenwood11146 ай бұрын

    Richard is so real for his land take. It may be his greatest take ever

  • @trevorstammler

    @trevorstammler

    6 ай бұрын

    Very real! I once built a deck with 40 forests in it and I prided myself in having every forest being a different art.

  • @khub5660

    @khub5660

    6 ай бұрын

    Reminds me of when I used to play monogreen tron with mismatching antiquities tron lands

  • @jamesgreenwood1703

    @jamesgreenwood1703

    6 ай бұрын

    Easily. Not that the bar is jigh

  • @adamhenwood1114

    @adamhenwood1114

    6 ай бұрын

    Scrub comment from a scrub who hates the truth. Richard consistently has the best takes on here.@@jamesgreenwood1703

  • @richarddilkes328
    @richarddilkes3286 ай бұрын

    Idea regarding the Richard Planeswalker point: a cycle of 5 "backgrounds", one of each color. They pair with a Planeswalker of the same color identity and promote that PW to a commander. And they all have a color flavored protection ability.

  • @GagleDan
    @GagleDan6 ай бұрын

    I personally double sleeve every deck, I have larger hands, so the shuffling doesn't feel any different except for the first 1-2 games with a fresh deck and it just makes me feel better I also kind of enjoy sleeving so that's part of it.

  • @vaentkhing579

    @vaentkhing579

    6 ай бұрын

    agreed: sleeving is my form of meditation

  • @the.50caliberapple80

    @the.50caliberapple80

    6 ай бұрын

    I have a bunch of decks, wanna sleeve mine. I hate sleeving 😂

  • @peewee0224

    @peewee0224

    5 ай бұрын

    @@vaentkhing579bro I got some decks that need sleeping lol 😂 I wish I had that mentality. Sleeving is my least favorite part.!

  • @egoish6762

    @egoish6762

    4 ай бұрын

    All my decks are double sleeved, edh and 1v1. My cedh deck is triple sleeved.

  • @gulgothica
    @gulgothica6 ай бұрын

    I love how many different gorgeous lands there are in Magic. I try to have every land be different in each of my decks. Each one makes me smile when I see it and I know that I may not see the same land for a few games before it comes up again. I recently found a trashed Beta island going through an old box of cards and threw it into one of my decks. I have a couple of Arabian Nights Mountains. When people recognize those, it’s always a fun moment.

  • @pleravens
    @pleravens6 ай бұрын

    When god type was a new thing, I made a theme deck with Karona, False God as the commander with the 15 theros gods (it seemed like a really funny concept at the time). The deck is barely functional as the 15 theros gods do not work together super well. But there are new god creatures now that can make a more cohesive deck.

  • @stefancandan5329

    @stefancandan5329

    6 ай бұрын

    Hey that's on theme, the theros gods don't work well together in residing over the realm too

  • @maaikevreugdemaker9210

    @maaikevreugdemaker9210

    2 ай бұрын

    Don't forget the world tree lol

  • @Hurtishappy
    @Hurtishappy6 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love the synergy between you four, I hope the group never breaks up!

  • @leonmurray7488
    @leonmurray74886 ай бұрын

    100% with Tomer concerning the card flicking! Playing against someone that does it constantly causes me great distress 🤣

  • @Psyman2

    @Psyman2

    6 ай бұрын

    I don't even do it intentionally. At that point you are punishing people for involuntary behavior. It's such a weird thing to hate. Do you want to DQ people for having a lisp too?

  • @leonmurray7488

    @leonmurray7488

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Psyman2 Take a deep breath. None of this is to be taken so serious.

  • @Psyman2

    @Psyman2

    6 ай бұрын

    @@leonmurray7488 Then don't say it?

  • @leonmurray7488

    @leonmurray7488

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Psyman2 Do you need a hug or something?

  • @Psyman2

    @Psyman2

    6 ай бұрын

    I need less hostility. Can you do that? @@leonmurray7488

  • @MakeVarahHappen
    @MakeVarahHappen6 ай бұрын

    I think the thing with Crim and art is that the SL art isn't, in a word, substantive enough? It's hard to explain but they intentionally try to feel out of place so you smile and move on and don't think about it. Pokemon fans FIEND for the next clay sculpture. They talk about it all the time, they anticipate the next time the artist will make a piece, and they all have their favorites. I think the comparison is when Kaldheim came out an artist *actually carved a saga into wood.* Victor Adame Minguez has over 160 pieces for magic, and has done that once. Weird art is for weirdness sake in magic, it's not to actually explore art beyond the novel. I also think "give me a vanilla version" is part of the problem. Think of Soul Shatter from ZNR. That is not a normal magic card, even in its most basic printing. There should be a line where you can have the base version of a card not be this same-y humanoid-realistic-fantasy and not be movie posters. I should be allowed to crack an uncommon in a pack and fall in love with it because it's just not the same, and have the be the same experience anyone can have with that card.

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson80566 ай бұрын

    The mismatched lands thing is the only thing I think I’ve ever agreed with Richard on, I want to show off all the cool lands lol

  • @chrisvainio

    @chrisvainio

    6 ай бұрын

    I assume players that have all matching lands are serial killers

  • @chrisvainio

    @chrisvainio

    6 ай бұрын

    Although I will agree with Tomer on a Theros deck, Kamigawa deck or LoTR deck. Those look great with the very thematic decks. I think all my basic in my Sam/Frodo are the map lands now. Maybe I’m a serial killer? 🤔

  • @ethanglaeser9239
    @ethanglaeser92396 ай бұрын

    Right off the bat, yes Richard. My decks have singleton basics, all different arts and styles. I want to play my cool lands and see the beautiful art in game. That is best done by mismatching them to get more art in my deck. Also yes, I play white borders too. : )

  • @jjvh500
    @jjvh5006 ай бұрын

    I do agree with Crim's art take, I think having more distinct MEDIUMS of art like that clay sculpture pokemon cards would be very cool. I believe several of the Saga from Kaldheim & Kamigawa were actually physical/traditional art. But imagine if the next time we have battles they are photos of physical, shoe-box dioramas

  • @olddaydreams

    @olddaydreams

    6 ай бұрын

    Dioramas are such an underrated form of art it could be really cool to see

  • @williamkeiser7562
    @williamkeiser75626 ай бұрын

    Heard white border lands only briefly mentioned, but I love white bordered basic lands in my decks. I've slowly transitioned to all my decks using them. It makes searching your deck a lot easier since you know where all your basic lands are. Even when you get absurdly large hands, the white borders are awesome since you just know where they all are.

  • @MakeVarahHappen
    @MakeVarahHappen6 ай бұрын

    Unintended consequences are part of magic. We don't errata away combos, we just remove cards. It gets arbitrary quick, decreases player trust in their cards, and spits in the spirit of brewing. And that's without getting into the fact that commander isn't run by wotc.

  • @danpearman270
    @danpearman2706 ай бұрын

    Yes to mismatched basics. And yes to mixing in occasional white-borders. That's not a hot take, that's just a good way to make players like Tomer twitch :D Edit: apparantly that's a good way to make Seth twitch, lol

  • @derekgorlewski7870
    @derekgorlewski78706 ай бұрын

    What a fun topic this week! @23:30: This was the exact process by which my 'Abzantment' deck has evolved. It started as a deck shell built around cards being both enchantment and creature (after playing Tuvasa, Sunlit, it dawned on me that if i make 1 Heliod, God of the Sun token, i'd net 2 mana with Serra's Sanctum and Gaea's Cradle out). The first iteration paired Sidar Kondo and Ravos Soultender. When Kodama of the East Tree was released, it bumped Sidar. Then, the considerably more synergistic Myrkul, Lord of bones was at the helm... briefly. The most recent update sees Anikthea, Hand of Erebos as its general, which was a hugely beneficial upgrade. Having a commander that's 2 less mana, AND more viable/relevant to the strategy, the substitution was a no-brainer. As more optimal legends were released with synergies directly enhancing the strategy, the deck upgraded with each iteration. Thank you, you magical golden fishes, for the content and entertainment!

  • @SnapMulligan
    @SnapMulligan6 ай бұрын

    Standing ovation for Tomer’s flicking take. Standing. O. Vation. Never did that before for a KZread video

  • @royalfishness1
    @royalfishness16 ай бұрын

    Thank you Seth!! Serra Ascendant not being a turn 1 6/6 is the hill I will die on.

  • @54SCV8

    @54SCV8

    3 ай бұрын

    Come on, nothing like Serra Ascendant in a Sovereign Okinec Ahau look at my 11/11 lifelinker.

  • @thelivingtruth3209
    @thelivingtruth32096 ай бұрын

    Tomer, If you hate people flicking play the blue enchantment Telepathy. They cant flick but you become arch-enemy immediately.

  • @peewee0224

    @peewee0224

    5 ай бұрын

    One of my favorite cards of all time and one everybody hates playing against

  • @mms8806
    @mms88066 ай бұрын

    Old art > this new stuff.

  • @Mercra
    @Mercra6 ай бұрын

    The only reason I play mismatched lands is for testing purposes. Land style #1 is the lands I'm going to keep. Land style #2 is 'land I might cut for another card,' so if I draw it I can easily picture 'what if this Mountain was a in this situation?'

  • @aydensauvageau9393
    @aydensauvageau93936 ай бұрын

    My thought for fixing plansewalkers in general is that in a 4 player game, it enters with 4x loyalty, but all abilities cost 4x as much, it means that the small hits for 1 and 2 don't just kill it on the spot

  • @xeper9458

    @xeper9458

    6 ай бұрын

    I think they should be special types of creatures with power and toughness separate from their loyalty abilities that are unable to be targeted by creature removal. That way they can't just be attacked directly and can't defend themselves, which I always thought was stupid, and can participate in combat, but can't just get removed by a board wipe or removal unless it specifies nonland permanent or planeswalker. They should've been designed that way from the start imho. I think that's what they should do. Maybe they could integrate it into the story arc and restore all the sparks. IDK all I know is this is a great idea. Hire me Wizards 😂

  • @SilvanOrion
    @SilvanOrion6 ай бұрын

    This video has made me realize that I'm the green player version of Crim in some ways. Chaos goblin life!

  • @WikiED
    @WikiED6 ай бұрын

    Magic has a lot of interesting stories that could easily be expanded to a show. Liliana's journey could be a show. Karn and everything around him. Planeswalkers could be just a thread connecting the different shows/stories into one overarching story. War of the spark trailer just screams to turn it into part of a show, not just a trailer.

  • @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

    @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle

    6 ай бұрын

    If done well, you could absolutely have a series of shows about different planeswalkers that all conclude in a avengers-style war of the spark movie/show

  • @54SCV8

    @54SCV8

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle This is exactly what I would imagine. I am absolutely loving the LoTR: The Rings of Power show. Some background into their lives before the spark, what caused the spark, and after the spark before joining the 5.

  • @Mrcoddy
    @Mrcoddy6 ай бұрын

    I have always used a tight penny sleeve within my normal sleeve, adds a minor amount of bulk but it prevents anything that effects the to of the normal sleeve, usually a bad shuffle or a card riding up and for sure gives at least a fighting chance against something catastrophic

  • @DrunkenManic
    @DrunkenManic6 ай бұрын

    The mismatched lands just reminds me how much I like having just 1 white board land in any deck

  • @EpicWookieLegs
    @EpicWookieLegs6 ай бұрын

    Richard talking about basic lands resonates with me. I've been doing this since I started playing Commander. Commander is a singleton format, so all my basic lands are singleton too.

  • @maybeisuckatlife
    @maybeisuckatlife6 ай бұрын

    I've never even thought about matching my basics, seems like a strange thing to care about to me.

  • @davidhansen5067

    @davidhansen5067

    6 ай бұрын

    For people like me, it can be irritating because it's a bit harder to easily read a board state where game objects do exactly the same thing but look different. It can also be an aesthetic choice.

  • @PlayMadness

    @PlayMadness

    6 ай бұрын

    In hard core competitive Magic, it can be a tiny edge to have matching basics. If your hand is revealed to your opponent and they see that the only land you have is Mountain 253, then next turn you play Mountain 288, they know you drew a Mountain and they still know your whole hand. Matching basics means they still have one card unknown, which they will then play around. These effects are way less common in commander, and commander players are rarely, if ever, going to care enough to note revealed cards and track them, so it's less important in that format.

  • @Kryptnyt

    @Kryptnyt

    6 ай бұрын

    @@PlayMadness By having the mismatched basics you have a very tiny disadvantage, which counts as a flex or show of confidence, which might intimidate the opponent! And if they have OCD and some of your basics have white borders, advantage gained!!!

  • @jadegrace1312

    @jadegrace1312

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@KryptnytNot how it works and also if you're trying to get an advantage by taking advantage of someone's ocd that's scummy as fuck in my opinion.

  • @Kryptnyt

    @Kryptnyt

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jadegrace1312 It's not a real advantage, more like a joke one.

  • @Bongus_Bubogus
    @Bongus_Bubogus6 ай бұрын

    In my Abzan landfall deck, long ago before the days of Thalia and The Gitrog Monster, I played Teneb, the Harvester because it didn’t betray what I was doing, I didn’t need to cast it, but if I had extra mana (as you do in landfall) I could play it and activate it for mana. Teneb was extra icing, not the cake itself. But then I also have decks like Glissa Sunsseker mono green control that does not function without the commander. It was the cog that powered the machine. Like all things commander, depends on the deck.

  • @x1PMac1x
    @x1PMac1x6 ай бұрын

    Tomer's goofy and lovable smile and wave at the beginning made me want to wave back before enjoying this cool idea for a video. 😄🙋‍♂

  • @Balex115
    @Balex1156 ай бұрын

    I agree, I love the Ravnica Lands, play one of each since there are so many, it's like looking at a landscape of Ravnica.

  • @philippklein5682
    @philippklein56826 ай бұрын

    100% on board with Richard's land take! For me it was always that in Highlander I want each card to be unique - including the basics! Also there's so much cool basic land art, how could I decide on just one? And why would I want to? Boring!

  • @QuantumFantasy
    @QuantumFantasy6 ай бұрын

    23:37 I usually decide the general idea for a deck, choose my colors, then pick a commander that fits it. Sometimes I've got the cards picked out first, sometimes not, but the concept always comes before the commander

  • @raphchuauapasia
    @raphchuauapasia6 ай бұрын

    I like the take on mismatched lands - it makes every card in your deck really different even if it's the same basic.

  • @davidhansen5067
    @davidhansen50676 ай бұрын

    I play matched basics because I don't want to be distracted, while searching my library or playing the game in general, by two things which look different but are actually identical. I play complex decks and I also want to be able to socialize at the same time. Every little thing that I can do to simplify my deck helps me enjoy the game more.

  • @ondrejprochazka8486

    @ondrejprochazka8486

    6 ай бұрын

    this!

  • @sirKonradical

    @sirKonradical

    6 ай бұрын

    That must also mean you don't play any dual lands or utility lands, right?

  • @davidhansen5067

    @davidhansen5067

    6 ай бұрын

    @@sirKonradical I do play both. On the battlefield, I group my dual lands, and colorless utility lands, to minimize confusion and accept what I can't minimize. I can minimize the complexity of my basic lands, so I do.

  • @jayjayhooksch1

    @jayjayhooksch1

    5 ай бұрын

    Now that you mention it, this might be the reason I prefer matching basics as well. I do what I can to simplify my game experience even so far as not running broad tutors. If a tutor can find more than 1 or 2 things in my deck, I'm going to spend more cognitive energy deciding my play than I want to devote during gameplay. I spend my cognitive energy on deck building instead so that my deck can play itself during gameplay and I can socialize and not monopolize game time.

  • @davidhansen5067

    @davidhansen5067

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jayjayhooksch1 Absolutely. Decision fatigue is a real thing. Why should my basic lands take up any of that energy?

  • @christina.morris
    @christina.morris6 ай бұрын

    I couldn't believe my ears when Tomer said he doesn't have his Kaladesh Masterpiece Sword double sleeved

  • @ms.sysbit5511
    @ms.sysbit55116 ай бұрын

    I have a Tinybones chaos mana base: every art is different. Some are full, some foil, some white border, etc. It tilts folks so hard which is perfect for the commander. The highlight is a white border swamp sharpied black and signed in gold by an old friend. I need to get more high quality ones like a Full Text swamp. The rest of my decks have matching basics that suit the commander. Ixalan basics in Gishath, Brothers War lands with robots for Kotori vehicles, Rakdos guild kits for my hell deck lead by Lord of Riots, Eldraine swamps and Origins plains with castles in the art, etc. I see the merits to both sides but prefer matching generally.

  • @catman08724
    @catman087246 ай бұрын

    I have always done the same thing with my lands that Richard does but it was always more just because I live being able to use up all the different 1-off unique basic arts I have!

  • @RadDuck7
    @RadDuck76 ай бұрын

    My Myrel deck has all golf course plains from the MSCHF secret lairs, and it's glorious.

  • @johngleason8977
    @johngleason89776 ай бұрын

    I find it so exciting to bling out my basic lands in mid-budget decks! The only exception I will make for this is if you’re assembling a set exclusive deck. Example: I built 5 decks using only cards from Tales of Middle Earth.

  • @Summer_Snows
    @Summer_Snows6 ай бұрын

    I think this was the first podcast where I agreed with every single thing that was said by the entire cast!

  • @glohkamp
    @glohkamp6 ай бұрын

    I love mismatched lands! My Urza deck has all the different old (black) border islands that have the untap symbol on them.. so they kind of match each other besides the art, and they match the rest of the deck because it’s all old border.

  • @hugmonger
    @hugmonger6 ай бұрын

    Ok I like the "mismatched land" take cuz I wanted to do that for my Anhelo the Painter deck where all the lands showed off a city scape in on some way but didn't all match so as you play it's like you are moving through the city

  • @ubertuna1
    @ubertuna16 ай бұрын

    Richard: On Planeswalkers, what you are looking for is called Oathbreaker :)

  • @thriftypsgr
    @thriftypsgr6 ай бұрын

    I am five minutes into this episode and it sounds just like the crap that me and my normal playgroup talk about. I absolutely love this today.

  • @sharkydart
    @sharkydart6 ай бұрын

    I don't want to say how many times i've been in option paralysis over which basic land arts to include and which to cut, after the rest of the 99 has been decided on.

  • @Swnkmstr
    @Swnkmstr6 ай бұрын

    Tomer is gonna pull his expensive cards out of their sleeve one day and they're going to have visible scum/dirt marks on them. Then he'll regret being a dirty single sleever lol

  • @trentonsimpson2621
    @trentonsimpson26216 ай бұрын

    As a man with tiny hands, I love the shuffle feel of double sleeved cards.

  • @KingSkinny-ww2pl
    @KingSkinny-ww2pl6 ай бұрын

    I used to have a deck fully sleeve in top loaders, I would have to shuffle in 3 parts and stack shuffle because hand shuffling was impossible, but I found it hilarious. I played it twice

  • @HeneLv
    @HeneLv6 ай бұрын

    I think a black mirror style show of mtg would be perfect. There's so many areas of magic to explore and sometimes one off events are cool and concise enough to have just 1 episode.

  • @erichluepke855
    @erichluepke8556 ай бұрын

    Basic lands matching reminds me of the "Flair" debate in the movie Office Space.

  • @gluttonne
    @gluttonne6 ай бұрын

    Ardent double sleever. Yes, it does feel crazy having to double sleeve all my .02 lands for uniformity 😅

  • @elogee_yt
    @elogee_yt6 ай бұрын

    Richard's inability to miss is truly astonishing

  • @philistineau
    @philistineau6 ай бұрын

    We need part 2, with the last round.

  • @ShuffleBot369
    @ShuffleBot3695 ай бұрын

    "Mr. Money Bags" with the mismatched socks had me ROLLING LOL, Crim, bro I feel the sock thing, we just build different 😤😂😁🤙❤️

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson80566 ай бұрын

    Richard could do this podcast by himself

  • @54SCV8
    @54SCV83 ай бұрын

    So this has been a favorite episode. I have so much to comment about it. 1. Mismatched lands 100%, it is helps me to blink out my deck and some much amazing art to showcase. 2. As far building a deck then selecting a commander, remember when precons had 2 or 3 options for commanders, it is an amazing way depowering your deck without having a couple different deck. I also miss the old commander rules, especially being able to tuck someone's commander. 3. I'm I don't know how Crim or anyone else feels but I think proxies really help with art issue. I also like altered art. Favorite of mine was Perilous Myr reimagined as a Bob-Omb still have then from my Heartless Summoning deck. 4. Im a double sleeve person. Sideloaders inners with smoke backs and toploader outers.

  • @daanverschaeren7197
    @daanverschaeren71976 ай бұрын

    Mismatched basics are the best, in my favorite deck i use it as a way to show how old the deck is getting by having a full art land from each set.

  • @ArtistTech
    @ArtistTech6 ай бұрын

    I prefer to build around theme, if there is a commander a really like but there aren't enough cards to fit the theme to my liking it's on the back burner. Same goes for if there are a ton of cards I like in the 99 but no commander that I feel fits what the deck wants to do it's on the back burner. It leaves me with decks that I really like and feel good about. Always appreciate the takes guys!

  • @josephzwack2893
    @josephzwack28936 ай бұрын

    I feel that the static abilities added to planeswalkers was wizards attempt to help fix walkers

  • @thetogtube2
    @thetogtube26 ай бұрын

    I like mismatched basics in some decks… specifically in my mono red deck … every land is a unique art mountain. They are pretty. But usually I like all matching lands. Of course if the deck is 3+ colors there is only one basic land anyways 😂

  • @JohnSmith-hs9ez
    @JohnSmith-hs9ez6 ай бұрын

    My take on basics: You either have to go ALL mismatching or all the same. The thing I can't get behind is some matching basics and some mismatched

  • @jameshogan4679
    @jameshogan46796 ай бұрын

    As for the show crim mentioned. 1st, yes ive been saying this for years. 2nd, how i always imagined it is you dont have main characters. Say the first few episodes you meet Mikaeus on innistrad, and geralf and gisa are the big bads and Avacyn is the Escanor of the show, and then you meet sorin and he planewalks to meet Jace for whatever reason, and now we have a story in ravnica going with innistrad, then we go to dominaria because we meet Lilliana and have 3 stories going on. Sort of like game of thrones or avengers. And we get so hyped to see certain characters meet. But each plane should have their own nonplaneswalker characters we care about. I want to meet Tolsimir, and Kalitas, and Isshin and other legendary characters. The planeswalkers are like the overarching story to keep it glued together, but the legendary creatures are the ones we really care about that are fully fleshed out.

  • @rainesubnaut5918
    @rainesubnaut59186 ай бұрын

    I think this episode has convinced me to stop double-sleeving. I'm keeping my cube double-sleeved though, that's got special sleeves worth putting outers on.

  • @dbldekr
    @dbldekr6 ай бұрын

    Years ago I built a monogreen deck that i meticulously went through my box of lands to find 37 different land arts.

  • @nickjoseph77
    @nickjoseph776 ай бұрын

    Richard is so spot on about mixing up your cool looking lands in your commander decks. Seth over here sound elitist like play 20 white decks if you want to play your 20 different basic plains. Haha I'll play all the foil shadowmoor or time spiral basics I have as long as it doesn't mess up the theme of the deck, then I'll throw in other things like a 7th edition basic cause that was the first pack I ever opened. ❤

  • @IonFONE
    @IonFONE6 ай бұрын

    I love how I broke out a commander deck to double sleeve and got maybe 10 cards in when Tomer brings it up. XD

  • @babatazyah
    @babatazyah6 ай бұрын

    Tomer, if you hate hand shuffling, you should just play The Grand Calcutron and enforce everyone's hand order

  • @darthsnarf
    @darthsnarf6 ай бұрын

    I purposely mismatch my land base, I like to look at each land and remember a little story or maybe I just like the art, but I like them to each be different if possible. I usually also throw in a single white border land.

  • @UntouchableGlory
    @UntouchableGlory6 ай бұрын

    Definitely heard that "Crim, buddy, let's just put your hand down" in Olivia's voice. XD

  • @TheDylls
    @TheDylls6 ай бұрын

    I think that there's a certain number of each basic land you run where they "have to" match... I don't know what that nunber is exactly, but it's gotta be around 3-5?

  • @annietemple11
    @annietemple116 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love the idea of a movie based on the Brother's War as a big fantasy battle epic - I actually had a really long shower thought session thinking of what the movie would look like - here's what I came up with; we tell the story from Ashnod's perspective ~ I figured telling it from both the brother's sides would be way too long, and a bit tedious if we only have a two hour movie to work with ~ we also don't cover the books word for word, because the Brother's war spans at least 60 years of constant epic (tragic) battles, starting when they were both little boys. with Ashnod, we would start the story with the (I hope I got this right, I don't exactly remember the order of events in the book) murder of the Yoshan warlord and Ashnod's imprisonment. we tell parts of Urza's story through what she hears and witnesses, and then tell parts of Mishra's story through the time she rescues Tawnos from the Fallaji prison ~ have a romantic subplot in the movie as well, whilst also showing Ashnod's ruthlessness when torturing Tawnos ~ we can then foreshadow the oncoming war and what's becoming of Mishra by her meeting the disfigured priests of Gix and witnessing the metal parts in his body. she could even briefly see Gix himself as I don't think the movie would have time to introduce this huge horrific demon out of nowhere I also imagine there would be some flashbacks of the brothers' past relating to the stones, specifically about Tocasia's death, I think that's a particularly impactful scene the last fourth of the movie would begin with her taking the Golgothian Sylex from Loran and rushing to bring it to Argoth, to the final war ~ she gives it to Tawnos; here we either switch to Tawnos' point of view for a moment or we focus on Ashnod, running to hide as the world around her explodes a silent shot of the frozen Terisiare, foreshadowing of a possible sequel with Urza's multicolored eyes opening the end ^^ being a nerd is so much fun sometimes ~ if anyone has any thoughts or anything they would change, feel free to let me know~ p.s. this would of course all be told with a lot of character, Ashnod somehow has the ability of being a character who is simultaneously absolutely dispicable, pretty much views life as a disposable resource, and probably holds some kind of admiration for phyrexians in her (or we insert that into her character in the movie); at the same time she's set on destroying them and ending the war ~ "they call me the uncaring, but on the contrary, I care a lot - just in my own way" or some line like that when she takes the Sylex from Loran p.s.s. I definitely left out a lot of the story, I just don't think all of it can be told in one movie; the book itself already has so many storylines that skip around, like the one with Urza's wife

  • @annietemple11

    @annietemple11

    6 ай бұрын

    fun fact; I accidentally deleted this comment once ~ I'm dedicated out here~

  • @MynxOclair
    @MynxOclair6 ай бұрын

    Having done double, triple, and single sleeve, if your hands are big enough (mine are) the shuffle feel is better the more sleeves you use

  • @philistineau
    @philistineau6 ай бұрын

    I play lands in sets of 4. Middle ground. Aesthetically pleasing and some variation.

  • @ATADSP
    @ATADSP6 ай бұрын

    It depends on my deck, but some of my decks do run each basic land as a different artwork, like my Nin the Pain Artist deck. Some are all one specific set of full arts or old frames (My Dong Zhou deck runs the Dominaria Remastered Lands, my Elesh Norn deck runs various new phyrexian lands)

  • @jongailey85
    @jongailey856 ай бұрын

    Man, I agree with Tomer on the hand shuffling. Drives me nuts lol

  • @josephhawkins7974
    @josephhawkins79746 ай бұрын

    Mismatched lands are fine, especially in paper where it's not necessarily easy to get a bunch of matching basics. On modo I understand it more.

  • @jolteon345
    @jolteon3456 ай бұрын

    26:21 ok so hear me out. There’s a distinct difference between shuffling your hand and flicking the cards. I’ll shuffle my hand but I won’t actively flick them, as the noise of flicking bugs me.

  • @bentulach2391
    @bentulach23916 ай бұрын

    We were shuffling our hands in events and tournaments well before Ice Age. I learned it from other players in 1994... and it's a hard habit to break.

  • @williamgressman4001
    @williamgressman40016 ай бұрын

    As usual a agree with Richard, in any given deck of mine all the basic lands are art singleton.

  • @gudtimes6363
    @gudtimes63636 ай бұрын

    that double sleeving part made me rage :D gj!

  • @Jonzin4BeatzNYC
    @Jonzin4BeatzNYC6 ай бұрын

    I think a show about the original brothers war starting with them as teenagers, complete with flashbacks to when they were young would be a great starting point

  • @kurowasanabe
    @kurowasanabe6 ай бұрын

    Is it still mismatched basics if it's the panaroma lands from Kamigawa and you lay them out accordingly?

  • @ohako79
    @ohako796 ай бұрын

    Loxodon Warhammer was given functional errata to give it lifelink from what was originally a triggered ability.

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